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Re: M84: Battlestar Galactica Mafia (D2)
« Reply #350 on: August 28, 2016, 11:04:22 am »

Chairs, you're basically at L-1 (mail-mi stated he is still suspecting chairs but voted for diedre to raise his activity) and we still didn't hear a proper defense.

I'm not currently voting for Chairs, but I do think he's currently looking scummiest just now, so that could easily change. I don't want hasty voting when there have already been hidden votes messing with things, hence wanting some input from the oldies before I vote. Unless they don't show up for hours and hours and I just get bored... :-P

Why does he look the scummiest? 

And where has silverspawn been solvy, and why is it more than what you have seen elsewhere?
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Re: M84: Battlestar Galactica Mafia (D2)
« Reply #351 on: August 28, 2016, 11:06:52 am »

Sooooo many people viewing this topic, but nobody posting...
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Re: M84: Battlestar Galactica Mafia (D2)
« Reply #352 on: August 28, 2016, 11:10:51 am »

vote: silverspawn
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SCUM HUNT ERRY DAY
« Reply #353 on: August 28, 2016, 11:16:14 am »

Updated reads list...

Reads - D2, v1: (TT - T - N - S - SS)

1. silverspawn - T
2. SpaceAnemone - T
3. gkrieg - TT
4. Roadrunner - S
5. Seprix - (Mafia Traitor)
6. chairs - FREE SPACE
7. iguana - S
8. mail-mi - S
9. EFHW - (Town)
10. diedre91 - T
11. teamlyle - (Town)
12. Calamitas - N

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Re: SCUM HUNT ERRY DAY
« Reply #354 on: August 28, 2016, 11:17:25 am »

Updated reads list...

Reads - D2, v1: (TT - T - N - S - SS)

1. silverspawn - T
2. SpaceAnemone - T
3. gkrieg - TT
4. Roadrunner - S
5. Seprix - (Mafia Traitor)
6. chairs - FREE SPACE
7. iguana - S
8. mail-mi - S
9. EFHW - (Town)
10. diedre91 - T
11. teamlyle - (Town)
12. Calamitas - N

Why silverspawn and why iguana?
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Re: M84: Battlestar Galactica Mafia (D2)
« Reply #355 on: August 28, 2016, 11:21:33 am »

ss feels like town!ss to me. If I was doing TT-TT-T-N-S-SS-SSS though he's still be T.

iguana feels kinda backgroundy to me, but I don't feel as strongly about him now as I did D1.

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Re: M84: Battlestar Galactica Mafia (D2)
« Reply #356 on: August 28, 2016, 11:23:33 am »

ss feels like town!ss to me. If I was doing TT-TT-T-N-S-SS-SSS though he's still be T.

iguana feels kinda backgroundy to me, but I don't feel as strongly about him now as I did D1.

Ok why mail-mi and why RR? 

What about iguanas backgroundness is scummy?

What is town!ss?
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Re: M84: Battlestar Galactica Mafia (D2)
« Reply #357 on: August 28, 2016, 11:24:38 am »

Chairs, you're basically at L-1 (mail-mi stated he is still suspecting chairs but voted for diedre to raise his activity) and we still didn't hear a proper defense.

I'm not currently voting for Chairs, but I do think he's currently looking scummiest just now, so that could easily change. I don't want hasty voting when there have already been hidden votes messing with things, hence wanting some input from the oldies before I vote. Unless they don't show up for hours and hours and I just get bored... :-P

Why does he look the scummiest? 

And where has silverspawn been solvy, and why is it more than what you have seen elsewhere?

Chairs looked the scummiest to me when I did my re-read of everything late Friday night. I want to re-check now he's posted something in his defence.

Silver has been solvy in older games I'd read, but not in the parallel current game that I'm not sure I'm supposed to talk about within another current game. Hence being vague.

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Re: M84: Battlestar Galactica Mafia (D2)
« Reply #358 on: August 28, 2016, 11:27:53 am »

Chairs, you're basically at L-1 (mail-mi stated he is still suspecting chairs but voted for diedre to raise his activity) and we still didn't hear a proper defense.

I'm not currently voting for Chairs, but I do think he's currently looking scummiest just now, so that could easily change. I don't want hasty voting when there have already been hidden votes messing with things, hence wanting some input from the oldies before I vote. Unless they don't show up for hours and hours and I just get bored... :-P

Why does he look the scummiest? 

And where has silverspawn been solvy, and why is it more than what you have seen elsewhere?

Chairs looked the scummiest to me when I did my re-read of everything late Friday night. I want to re-check now he's posted something in his defence.

Silver has been solvy in older games I'd read, but not in the parallel current game that I'm not sure I'm supposed to talk about within another current game. Hence being vague.

Don't mention the behavior of other players in ongoing games. Instead say something like he has been solvy elsewhere
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Re: SCUM HUNT ERRY DAY
« Reply #359 on: August 28, 2016, 11:37:50 am »

3. gkrieg - TT

Really? Talk about that to me.

Town his pretty sheepish here. gkrieg sort of puts forth his agende and pretty much dictates the consensus. That's pretty bad considering he has us two as the highest scum reads.

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Re: M84: Battlestar Galactica Mafia (D2)
« Reply #360 on: August 28, 2016, 11:40:27 am »

I think right now the scummiest thing to do is to sheep gkrieg, and that's primarily true for not!noob players. Let me see who is doing that.

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Re: M84: Battlestar Galactica Mafia (D2)
« Reply #361 on: August 28, 2016, 11:43:56 am »

hmm not really

diedre is copying his reads but he is pretty new. it could be legit.

SA is going in a pretty different direction. I think that's a non-partner tell.

for now I'd say we should lynch in {diedre, gkrieg}.

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Re: M84: Battlestar Galactica Mafia (D2)
« Reply #362 on: August 28, 2016, 11:51:02 am »

hmm not really

diedre is copying his reads but he is pretty new. it could be legit.

SA is going in a pretty different direction. I think that's a non-partner tell.

for now I'd say we should lynch in {diedre, gkrieg}.

Haha really?  On what earth am I scum?  Let's see a case
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Re: M84: Battlestar Galactica Mafia (D2)
« Reply #363 on: August 28, 2016, 11:52:59 am »

I think right now the scummiest thing to do is to sheep gkrieg, and that's primarily true for not!noob players. Let me see who is doing that.

I agree with you here. I think diedre didn't straight up copy my reads though. It really does seem genuine. I agree with you about Space.

Why not look at mail-mi if you're looking for not new  players that are sheeping me?
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Re: M84: Battlestar Galactica Mafia (D2)
« Reply #364 on: August 28, 2016, 11:55:44 am »

so back to gkrieg himself...

the problem is that his reads are so basic. chairs is scummy because he put town at L-1. I'm scummy because I'm weird and not as active. diedre is kind of scummy because he's kind of lurky. etc.

everyone who's played mafia for a while knows that this doesn't work.

the igu read is at least a bit more out there, but what does 'meta' even mean in his case.

still this isn't really a huge scum tell for him.

but if sucm is out there, they should be really inclined to sheep him. now I'm going in circles. I'm too tired to explain this cohseively.

include mail-me in that list. vote: mail-mi

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Re: M84: Battlestar Galactica Mafia (D2)
« Reply #365 on: August 28, 2016, 11:56:22 am »

I think right now the scummiest thing to do is to sheep gkrieg, and that's primarily true for not!noob players. Let me see who is doing that.

I agree with you here.

Wat.

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Re: SCUM HUNT ERRY DAY
« Reply #366 on: August 28, 2016, 11:56:27 am »

3. gkrieg - TT

Really? Talk about that to me.

Town his pretty sheepish here. gkrieg sort of puts forth his agende and pretty much dictates the consensus. That's pretty bad considering he has us two as the highest scum reads.

Honestly I was just trying to get the game going and had a lot of time on my hands to go back and read D1. I feel like if the pushing the agenda thing is me asking questions then you are trying to stop good discussion from happening. We have a lot of new players. Someone has to ask the questions.
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Re: M84: Battlestar Galactica Mafia (D2)
« Reply #367 on: August 28, 2016, 11:57:48 am »

3. gkrieg - TT

Really? Talk about that to me.

Town his pretty sheepish here. gkrieg sort of puts forth his agende and pretty much dictates the consensus. That's pretty bad considering he has us two as the highest scum reads.

Honestly I was just trying to get the game going and had a lot of time on my hands to go back and read D1. I feel like if the pushing the agenda thing is me asking questions then you are trying to stop good discussion from happening. We have a lot of new players. Someone has to ask the questions.

The questions are good.

I just don't like that you're pushing faust... err chairs and me while doing so

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Re: M84: Battlestar Galactica Mafia (D2)
« Reply #368 on: August 28, 2016, 11:58:04 am »

I think right now the scummiest thing to do is to sheep gkrieg, and that's primarily true for not!noob players. Let me see who is doing that.

I agree with you here.

Wat.

I'm doing a lot of work and if I'm wrong about who scum is, I'm the easiest person to sheep into a bad case. That is why I unvoted on chairs.
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Re: M84: Battlestar Galactica Mafia (D2)
« Reply #369 on: August 28, 2016, 12:00:06 pm »

so back to gkrieg himself...

the problem is that his reads are so basic. chairs is scummy because he put town at L-1. I'm scummy because I'm weird and not as active. diedre is kind of scummy because he's kind of lurky. etc.

everyone who's played mafia for a while knows that this doesn't work.

the igu read is at least a bit more out there, but what does 'meta' even mean in his case.

still this isn't really a huge scum tell for him.

but if sucm is out there, they should be really inclined to sheep him. now I'm going in circles. I'm too tired to explain this cohseively.

include mail-me in that list. vote: mail-mi

To be fair, D1 was short, so not a lot to go off of. Even though a scum is dead, he was a traitor and so his interactions are useful but not interactions toward him. So I'm going off what is there, which are little posts here and there.
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Re: M84: Battlestar Galactica Mafia (D2)
« Reply #370 on: August 28, 2016, 12:01:16 pm »

I think right now the scummiest thing to do is to sheep gkrieg, and that's primarily true for not!noob players. Let me see who is doing that.

I agree with you here.

Wat.

I'm doing a lot of work and if I'm wrong about who scum is, I'm the easiest person to sheep into a bad case. That is why I unvoted on chairs.

Mhh...

but it only works if your reads aren't correct.

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Re: M84: Battlestar Galactica Mafia (D2)
« Reply #371 on: August 28, 2016, 12:12:58 pm »

I think right now the scummiest thing to do is to sheep gkrieg, and that's primarily true for not!noob players. Let me see who is doing that.

I agree with you here.

Wat.

I'm doing a lot of work and if I'm wrong about who scum is, I'm the easiest person to sheep into a bad case. That is why I unvoted on chairs.

Mhh...

but it only works if your reads aren't correct.

Well yes. But putting my reads out there has helped others contribute
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Re: M84: Battlestar Galactica Mafia (D2)
« Reply #372 on: August 28, 2016, 12:14:03 pm »

I think right now the scummiest thing to do is to sheep gkrieg, and that's primarily true for not!noob players. Let me see who is doing that.

I agree with you here.

Wat.

I'm doing a lot of work and if I'm wrong about who scum is, I'm the easiest person to sheep into a bad case. That is why I unvoted on chairs.

Mhh...

but it only works if your reads aren't correct.

Well yes. But putting my reads out there has helped others contribute

I think now we're talking past each other.

What I mean is that finding others scummy only makes sense if you assume your reads to be false, which is odd, because why would you assume your reads to be false? But you immediately agreed with me when I said that sheeping you is scummy.

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Re: M84: Battlestar Galactica Mafia (D2)
« Reply #373 on: August 28, 2016, 12:15:45 pm »

I think right now the scummiest thing to do is to sheep gkrieg, and that's primarily true for not!noob players. Let me see who is doing that.

I agree with you here.

Wat.

I'm doing a lot of work and if I'm wrong about who scum is, I'm the easiest person to sheep into a bad case. That is why I unvoted on chairs.

Mhh...

but it only works if your reads aren't correct.

Well yes. But putting my reads out there has helped others contribute

I think now we're talking past each other.

What I mean is that finding others scummy only makes sense if you assume your reads to be false, which is odd, because why would you assume your reads to be false? But you immediately agreed with me when I said that sheeping you is scummy.

I don't need to assume my reads are false, just assume that they could be faulty. Which yes, I assume my reads are not 100% because they never have been. Especially early on D2
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Re: M84: Battlestar Galactica Mafia (D2)
« Reply #374 on: August 28, 2016, 12:17:52 pm »

I think right now the scummiest thing to do is to sheep gkrieg, and that's primarily true for not!noob players. Let me see who is doing that.

I agree with you here.

Wat.

I'm doing a lot of work and if I'm wrong about who scum is, I'm the easiest person to sheep into a bad case. That is why I unvoted on chairs.

Mhh...

but it only works if your reads aren't correct.

Well yes. But putting my reads out there has helped others contribute

I think now we're talking past each other.

What I mean is that finding others scummy only makes sense if you assume your reads to be false, which is odd, because why would you assume your reads to be false? But you immediately agreed with me when I said that sheeping you is scummy.

I don't need to assume my reads are false, just assume that they could be faulty.

... ??? ...

Where is the difference?
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