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dominator 123

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Cheap filterer with tokens
« on: June 24, 2016, 03:14:02 am »
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<Card Name> - $2 - Action
+1 Action
Take a <Card Name> token.
Look at the top card of your deck. Choose one: Put it into your hand; or discard it and spend a <Card Name> token, and if you did, repeat this step.

Basically what it does is keep discarding cards from the top of your deck until you find one that you like. However, you have limited tokens, so you can't do so infinitely (or even for long). I'm not sure how to phrase the bottom part better.

Is it good? Too strong/weak?
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Re: Cheap filterer with tokens
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2016, 04:00:58 am »
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Seems fine for a 2$. Kind of a fixed Spy.
Do you want the token spending to be mandatory after you chose to discard the card? I don't think that it would be a huge buff if you could choose to not spend the token. It would IMO open some strategic space, particularly in junking-intense games where you might very well want to accumulate at least some tokens for the near future when your deck is full of junk.
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Re: Cheap filterer with tokens
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2016, 02:05:59 pm »
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"repeat this step" sounds too vague to me. Here's my fix.

<Card Name> - $2 - Action
Look at the top card of your deck.
Choose one: Take a <Card Name> token, +1 Action and put it in your hand; or discard it and spend a <Card Name> token, and if you did, replay this card.

It plays slightly different the first time you play it.
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Re: Cheap filterer with tokens
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2016, 02:54:07 pm »
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This version plays the same as your original intent

<Card Name> - $2 - Action
Look at the top card of your deck.
Choose one: Take a <Card Name> token, +1 Action and put it in your hand; or discard it and a <Card Name> token, and if you did, replay this card.
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When you gain this card, gain a <Card Name> token.
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Re: Cheap filterer with tokens
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2016, 03:02:15 pm »
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This version plays the same as your original intent

<Card Name> - $2 - Action
Look at the top card of your deck.
Choose one: Take a <Card Name> token, +1 Action and put it in your hand; or discard it and a <Card Name> token, and if you did, replay this card.
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When you gain this card, gain a <Card Name> token.

The wording of "if you did" isn't completely clear there. While I'm pretty sure you mean "if you did discard it and a <Card Name token>, replay this card", some people would interpret it (legitimately) as "if you did make the second choice" (even if you couldn't fully do the second choice, because you had no token for example). Note how Treasure Map is explicit with "if you did trash 2 Treasure Maps" instead of just "if you did".
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Re: Cheap filterer with tokens
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2016, 04:15:00 pm »
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Good point.

<Card Name> - $2 - Action
Look at the top card of your deck.
Choose one: Put it in your hand, +1 Action and take a <Card Name> token; or discard it and a <Card Name> token. If you discarded a <Card Name> token, replay this card.
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When you gain this card, gain a <Card Name> token.


I think this would fit in with Last Footnote's Enterprise expansion using Trade Tokens.
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Re: Cheap filterer with tokens
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2016, 04:56:01 pm »
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CardName: Action, $2
Look at the top card of your deck. You may pay a token, to discard that card and play this again. Otherwise, +1 Action, put that card into your hand, and take a token.

It's weaker the first time you play it, but that's the price you pay for clarity. I think overall the card might be too complex, just in terms of remembering what it does. I think arguably dominator 123's original wording is easier to understand, except for the ambiguity of "this step".

I think this would fit in with Last Footnote's Enterprise expansion using Trade Tokens.

Uh, perhaps. I mean I try to keep the value of a Trade token similar across cards, though it doesn't have to be (and can't be) exactly equal. This seems maybe a little weak for what a Trade token is meant to do, but maybe it's fine.
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Re: Cheap filterer with tokens
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2016, 02:22:03 am »
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I think overall the card might be too complex, just in terms of remembering what it does.
Actually the concept is simple, it is just difficult to explain simply. Pretty powerful interaction with tunnels, actually. I like it, tbh.
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