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Proxying Empires stuff on MF
« on: May 25, 2016, 09:31:44 am »
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Seven long Empireless months await us, but hey! If you are really impatient about trying the new stuff, you can proxy all the previewed Landmarks and a few of the vp cards and Events, with solutions of varying degrees of complexity.

Wolf Den, Keep and Fountain are the most simple - just compute the point totals at the end of the game.
Tomb and Battlefield will require you to do some bookkeeping in chat, but they are still easy peasy. :)
Dominate is also quite easy with a bit of bookkeeping. Just pay 14 for a Province and mark 9 extra vp. (it's not perfect due to stuff like Mission, Contraband, and Swamp Hag, but it's close enough)
Groundskeeper can be replaced by Baker, if you don't spend coin tokens.

We could organize some friendly games to try some of these out. I'll be available for a couple of games until 2 hours from now.  :)
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Re: Proxying Empires stuff on MF
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2016, 12:07:47 pm »
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This is a brilliant idea. You get my +1.
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Re: Proxying Empires stuff on MF
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2016, 05:17:10 am »
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Anyone who wants to try this out just about now?  :)
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Re: Proxying Empires stuff on MF
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2016, 12:25:52 pm »
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I'd be in for this.  I'm free this evening from 5 until about 11 pm Eastern US time zone.
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Re: Proxying Empires stuff on MF
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2016, 12:45:06 pm »
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I'd be in for this.  I'm free this evening from 5 until about 11 pm Eastern US time zone.

Unfortunately that's night where I live.  :-[
Have fun, I hope you'll find somebody to play with!  :)
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Re: Proxying Empires stuff on MF
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2016, 03:57:45 pm »
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I'd be in for this.  I'm free this evening from 5 until about 11 pm Eastern US time zone.
I could probably do that starting at about 9:30 pm eastern time.
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Re: Proxying Empires stuff on MF
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2016, 04:12:53 pm »
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I'd be in for this.  I'm free this evening from 5 until about 11 pm Eastern US time zone.
I could probably do that starting at about 9:30 pm eastern time.

Cool.  I will be online.
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Re: Proxying Empires stuff on MF
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2016, 07:03:57 pm »
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I'd be in for this.  I'm free this evening from 5 until about 11 pm Eastern US time zone.
I could probably do that starting at about 9:30 pm eastern time.

Cool.  I will be online.
It turns out that I probably can't play till 10:00pm eastern time. Anyway see you.
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Re: Proxying Empires stuff on MF
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2016, 11:11:55 pm »
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Gave this a go with Limetime.  Here's a recap:

Game 1 (Fountain, Tomb; Borrow; Peasant, Chancellor, Menagerie, Oasis, Tunnel, Moneylender, Giant, Stables, Farmland, Hireling)
We both went Moneylender/Peasant, and started trashing Copper for the points and the money.  He went Menagerie earlier than me, loaded up on Stables, while I went heavy Peasant.  I got to Teacher first with a plan to +Buy something and buy back my coppers for the Fountain points.  His engine was clicking too fast, so I panicked and +Action'd Moneylender to try to trigger a big turn with Menagerie.  It worked, but didn't help enough.  Limetime dropped a +1 Action on Menagerie and it was all over.  We both grabbed a few extra Tomb points with Farmland, but I didn't have the money Limetime had, and his mega-turn 18 finished me off.

Score was 36-24 w/o landmarks.  Limetime had no copper.  I had 6 but didn't get up to 10.  I had a 15-11 edge in trashing, so Limetime won 47-39.

Game 2 (Battlefield, Wolf Den; Scouting Part, Inheritance; Vineyard, Native Village, Squire, Philosopher's Stone, Golem, Counterfeit, Giant, Graverobber, Native Village, Peddler)
Both opened Potion/Squire.  Had to threaten early Vineyard buys.  But that led to a happy truce, as we bought P Stones and Golems with the Potion.  Extra squires helped Lime to an early Peddler inheritance.  I got there a turn later, and grabbed a couple Estates to get the Battlefield edge.  Won that 8-4 but had a lot of Wolf Den work to do.  While I was buying my second Golem and P Stone, Limetime grabbed up 3 Vineyards.

Lime up 56-19, 57-21 after landmarks.

Game 3 (Keep; Forager, Scheme, Shanty Town, Trade Route, Advisor, Miser, Distant Lands, Merchant Guild, Outpost, Goons)
Lime used Advisor well, while Foraging away treasure to draw his deck by turn 14 or so.  I would've resigned, but hey, Landmarks.  I grabbed a few points and tried to hang on to my 15 from Keep.  I did, but it just made 65-22 into 65-37.

Moral of the story:  If you can build a good enough engine, it will still overpower something slower that gets even slower when fighting over Landmark points.  Or maybe Limetime is just that much better than me (much more likely)!
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Re: Proxying Empires stuff on MF
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2016, 11:15:39 pm »
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Wow you just got 100 posts and 100 respect at the same time!
Thanks for the games  :)
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Re: Proxying Empires stuff on MF
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2016, 11:34:11 pm »
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Limetime isn't bad at all. Looks like fun games!
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