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Re: Semi-Interesting Dominion Moments Thread
« Reply #475 on: May 31, 2018, 07:34:46 am »
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Thanks to Ambassador, I managed to buy a Province and trash TWO Hovels. There’s no way it was the best play and I knew that at the time, but when am I ever going to have a chance like that again?
Hovel doesn't have a pile to be returned to, so you can't actually transfer them using Ambassador. Masquerade would work, though.
OH RIGHT. That's what it was . . .
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« Reply #476 on: May 31, 2018, 08:40:05 am »
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Thanks to Ambassador, I managed to buy a Province and trash TWO Hovels. There’s no way it was the best play and I knew that at the time, but when am I ever going to have a chance like that again?
Hovel doesn't have a pile to be returned to, so you can't actually transfer them using Ambassador. Masquerade would work, though.

This would certainly be an interesting moment in an online game...
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« Reply #477 on: May 31, 2018, 09:06:22 am »
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In the early game, buying an Estate to trash two Hovels is likely the best play you can make, to the extent that you certainly should pass Overgrown Estate and possibly Necropolis over Hovel if you can, only to prevent your opponent from doing that.
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Re: Semi-Interesting Dominion Moments Thread
« Reply #478 on: May 31, 2018, 09:40:25 am »
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In the early game, buying an Estate to trash two Hovels is likely the best play you can make, to the extent that you certainly should pass Overgrown Estate and possibly Necropolis over Hovel if you can, only to prevent your opponent from doing that.
I'm pretty sure this is a joke. Masquerade alone gives you both the ability to trash OE for the +1 Card and a use for Necropolis.
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Re: Semi-Interesting Dominion Moments Thread
« Reply #479 on: May 31, 2018, 10:07:59 am »
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In the early game, buying an Estate to trash two Hovels is likely the best play you can make, to the extent that you certainly should pass Overgrown Estate and possibly Necropolis over Hovel if you can, only to prevent your opponent from doing that.
I'm pretty sure this is a joke. Masquerade alone gives you both the ability to trash OE for the +1 Card and a use for Necropolis.

It's not a joke. Getting rid of a dead card in your deck is stronger than Necropolis or a one-time +1 card.
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« Reply #480 on: May 31, 2018, 11:36:46 am »
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In the early game, buying an Estate to trash two Hovels is likely the best play you can make, to the extent that you certainly should pass Overgrown Estate and possibly Necropolis over Hovel if you can, only to prevent your opponent from doing that.
I'm pretty sure this is a joke. Masquerade alone gives you both the ability to trash OE for the +1 Card and a use for Necropolis.

It's not a joke. Getting rid of a dead card in your deck is stronger than Necropolis or a one-time +1 card.

Yeah, buying an Estate with 2 Hovels in hand is basically the same thing as buying a Laboratory. So there certainly might be better buys; but really depends on how much you have to spend on the turn that you drew both Hovels (which is very likely to be less than ).
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« Reply #481 on: May 31, 2018, 01:42:02 pm »
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In the early game, buying an Estate to trash two Hovels is likely the best play you can make, to the extent that you certainly should pass Overgrown Estate and possibly Necropolis over Hovel if you can, only to prevent your opponent from doing that.
I'm pretty sure this is a joke. Masquerade alone gives you both the ability to trash OE for the +1 Card and a use for Necropolis.

It's not a joke. Getting rid of a dead card in your deck is stronger than Necropolis or a one-time +1 card.

Yeah, buying an Estate with 2 Hovels in hand is basically the same thing as buying a Laboratory. So there certainly might be better buys; but really depends on how much you have to spend on the turn that you drew both Hovels (which is very likely to be less than ).

But in order to trash both Hovels on an Estate buy after playing Masquerade, you need to forego trashing one of them on the Masquerade play! You could choose to trash a Copper instead, but then we'd be talking about a Peddler + (whatever else you would have bought) versus a Lab. If there's really nothing you want to buy for $3 or $4, it could be better, but that's hardly the power play that Awaclus initially made it sound.
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Re: Semi-Interesting Dominion Moments Thread
« Reply #482 on: May 31, 2018, 02:00:41 pm »
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But in order to trash both Hovels on an Estate buy after playing Masquerade, you need to forego trashing one of them on the Masquerade play! You could choose to trash a Copper instead, but then we'd be talking about a Peddler + (whatever else you would have bought) versus a Lab. If there's really nothing you want to buy for $3 or $4, it could be better, but that's hardly the power play that Awaclus initially made it sound.

You're not passing the OGE so that you can do it on your turn, you're doing it so that your opponent who might not have Masquerade in hand can't do it on theirs.
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Re: Semi-Interesting Dominion Moments Thread
« Reply #483 on: May 31, 2018, 02:59:55 pm »
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But in order to trash both Hovels on an Estate buy after playing Masquerade, you need to forego trashing one of them on the Masquerade play! You could choose to trash a Copper instead, but then we'd be talking about a Peddler + (whatever else you would have bought) versus a Lab. If there's really nothing you want to buy for $3 or $4, it could be better, but that's hardly the power play that Awaclus initially made it sound.

You're not passing the OGE so that you can do it on your turn, you're doing it so that your opponent who might not have Masquerade in hand can't do it on theirs.
I still think I'd prefer to have two one-shot Labs than an opportunity to buy a Lab for $3. Especially early, when the extra card can potentially help me hit a key price point.
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Re: Semi-Interesting Dominion Moments Thread
« Reply #484 on: May 31, 2018, 03:04:37 pm »
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But in order to trash both Hovels on an Estate buy after playing Masquerade, you need to forego trashing one of them on the Masquerade play! You could choose to trash a Copper instead, but then we'd be talking about a Peddler + (whatever else you would have bought) versus a Lab. If there's really nothing you want to buy for $3 or $4, it could be better, but that's hardly the power play that Awaclus initially made it sound.

You're not passing the OGE so that you can do it on your turn, you're doing it so that your opponent who might not have Masquerade in hand can't do it on theirs.
I still think I'd prefer to have two one-shot Labs than an opportunity to buy a Lab for $3. Especially early, when the extra card can potentially help me hit a key price point.

Well, in this case it's better than a Lab because Masquerade can't draw that "Lab" dead.
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