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Author Topic: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Win!  (Read 127140 times)

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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Day 4
« Reply #1400 on: July 11, 2016, 07:15:33 pm »

Well, RR's not hammered: so he's either town, or scum with Awaclus.
Or scum and Awaclus is town?
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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Game Over - Mafia win!
« Reply #1401 on: July 11, 2016, 08:13:35 pm »

Final Day 4 Vote Count

silver (0): Roadrunner
Roadrunner (0): Awaclus
Awaclus (2): iguana, silver, ced, Joseph

not voting (0):

Awaclus was a Vanilla Townie. His lover-at-first-sight, iguanaiguana, was tragically also a Vanilla Townie, and committed suicide.

silverspawn, the Mafia Roleblocker, Jimmmmm, the Mafia Goon and ced, the Mafia Goon win the game!

Joseph and RR, both Vanilla Townies, are endgamed.

MVP to ced for his deftness at hiding in plain sight!

« Last Edit: July 12, 2016, 11:39:07 am by EFHW »
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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Day 4
« Reply #1402 on: July 11, 2016, 08:14:12 pm »

I knew it
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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Win!
« Reply #1403 on: July 11, 2016, 08:20:04 pm »

At least I called it in the end. And kinda when I died
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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Win!
« Reply #1404 on: July 11, 2016, 08:21:01 pm »

I now have 60% winrate!

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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Win!
« Reply #1405 on: July 11, 2016, 08:21:28 pm »

That was just d-u-m
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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Win!
« Reply #1406 on: July 11, 2016, 08:21:44 pm »

I think what sealed the deal was the inactivity of town near the end.
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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Win!
« Reply #1407 on: July 11, 2016, 08:23:19 pm »

I now have 60% winrate!



YOU SUCK!!!!! STOP BEING SCUM!!!!!!!
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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Win!
« Reply #1408 on: July 11, 2016, 08:24:28 pm »

I swear, Silverspawn is scum every single game.
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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Win!
« Reply #1409 on: July 11, 2016, 08:25:12 pm »

Also more scum in the last 4 games than in the previous 27 (counting only normal games and the championship)

PPE:  :D :P

No, I do hope I will.

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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Win!
« Reply #1410 on: July 11, 2016, 08:25:56 pm »

GG

Will probably have more to say on the game later - for now it's pretty late where I am, so I'm going to sleep.

For now I'll congratulate Silver on an excellent under-the-radar scum game - made me much more confident to push mislynches as I knew the town wouldn't find both of us in time.
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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Win!
« Reply #1411 on: July 11, 2016, 08:26:10 pm »

Well done ss and ced. :)
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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Win!
« Reply #1412 on: July 11, 2016, 08:27:50 pm »

scum QT please?
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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Win!
« Reply #1414 on: July 11, 2016, 08:30:52 pm »

silverspawn, the Mafia Roleblocker and ced, the Mafia Goon win the game!

Jim wins too!

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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Win!
« Reply #1415 on: July 11, 2016, 08:33:18 pm »

Okay now that this game is over, I'm sure we can get two of you to sign up here; it could start in five minutes if you do! well, pm's could go out in five minutes.

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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Win!
« Reply #1416 on: July 11, 2016, 08:40:46 pm »

Ya that was an awful town game for me.  Although I did fight hard against my lynch, none of the town seemed like they wanted to explore other options.
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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Win!
« Reply #1417 on: July 11, 2016, 08:46:45 pm »

No one ever listens to me
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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Win!
« Reply #1418 on: July 11, 2016, 09:02:56 pm »

Okay now that this game is over, I'm sure we can get two of you to sign up here; it could start in five minutes if you do! well, pm's could go out in five minutes.

Please do this. I want a game where Silverspawn isn't scum for once.  ::)
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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Win!
« Reply #1419 on: July 11, 2016, 10:42:14 pm »

 The setup strongly favored scum and was not worth the energy it would take to counter it.

Also I wanted to sub out and couldn't and ended up as the modt active town player lol
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Igu is town or trying the hardest he ever has as scum.

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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Win!
« Reply #1420 on: July 12, 2016, 07:16:33 am »

setup did favor scum.

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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Win!
« Reply #1421 on: July 12, 2016, 08:58:28 am »

I agree that the setup did favour the scum. The whole "partner chat" thing is a slight town advantage - but the lover mechanic was more heavily scum-favouring, mostly because the mafia know about the potential lover status of up to three pairs, while each individual townie knows about only one. It also can result in LyLo situations where the town can lynch scum and still lose (we tried to set one of these up but flubbed it). This was compounded by the low amount of town power. A single doc vs a roleblocker is pretty close to the town having just a confirmable townie, which doesn't cut it in a game of this size.

A major aspect of the setup that I have to criticize is the voting rules. Three of the four days went to the deadline lynch, and the fourth (day two) would have gone there too had Seprix not voted himself. This is really to the detriment of both sides. For the town, it stagnates the game if everyone is sitting around waiting for a lynch to happen. In this game, the scum were really in control of the thread from day two onwards, but the voting rules made it much more difficult than it should have been to push mislynches home. This was most prominent on day 3, when I smelled blood and tried to push the gkrieg lynch home a couple of days before the deadline. He racked up 4 votes, but wasn't lynched until the deadline, giving him time to go back and figure that I might be scum.

Now for some play commentary:
-As mentioned previously, I haven't played mafia in a couple of years, and you have to go back 3 or 4 since I've played regularly. As such I was feeling very rusty at the start. My faust case was a bit of a feeler, but my post 203 was incredibly scummy (a cheap attempt to push a faust lynch disguised as an attempt to generate discussion). Fortunately, Silver was the first to pick up on this, and nobody really came back to it after he dropped the point.
-The Jimmm bus was kind of unilateral. He hadn't actually posted in our scumchat since the day started, and it just felt like there was very little incentive to leave him alive if he's a lynch candidate in that situation. In the end, it turned out to be the correct decision, as Haddock was not going to get lynched.
-Faust's question to Joseph was actually very good, and was the overwhelming reason that we didn't kill the lovers N1. This did end up working out for us, though, as the town didn't consider the full implications of the question.
-Seprix was simply too easy to push on day two. The lovers lie at the last moment was bizarre to say the least, and Seprix following it up by stalling for time made for a very easy case. However, the town got distracted by RR/Joseph. Annoying, but at the same time really the moment that we knew we'd win the game eventually.
-Gkrieg's self-defense on day three was just not very good. I alluded to this at the top of 1270. It is true that it isn't really scummy, but it doesn't make for a convincing counterargument for the townies watching. Then there's the tonal disconnect between the defense and the "can't believe I'm getting mislynched" attitude, making it a very easy vote for a demotivated townie to make.
-On night three we meant to kill iguana but failed to submit in time. In the end I guess we can say it cancelled out the modkill and call it quits, right?
-Day four was simple enough. Almost all the potential townie leader figures were dead (aside from maybe iguana), leaving an opportunity for myself/Silver to step up and finish the game. In the end, this wasn't really required, as there was enough anti-Awaclus sentiment (stirred up by Silver over the course of the game) to end it there.

I'll finish by thanking EFHW for a good job modding the game, especially with the replacement bother and despite my issues with the setup. I had fun, and I'm sure I'll sign up for another game here at some point.
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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Win!
« Reply #1422 on: July 12, 2016, 08:59:06 am »

EBWODP: Actually, any chance of a link to the spec chat or the various partner chats? Thanks.
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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Win!
« Reply #1423 on: July 12, 2016, 10:26:07 am »

I was crossing my fingers from night two on that scum would just kill me and let me be done!
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Igu is town or trying the hardest he ever has as scum.

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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Win!
« Reply #1424 on: July 12, 2016, 10:27:56 am »

No one ever listens to me

You never make a case longer than a sentence.
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Igu is town or trying the hardest he ever has as scum.
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