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[Watno]

I hope there will be a new standard Alt VP card, like Feodum in Dark Ages.

There most likely won't be one, since it would require 12 cards in the pile and that doesn't add up.

[Davio]

Chariot is trying to make Spy good?

Trash Coppers,  keep Estates and Shelters!

[Beyond Awesome]

I hope there will be a new standard Alt VP card, like Feodum in Dark Ages.

There most likely won't be one, since it would require 12 cards in the pile and that doesn't add up.

This is true, but VP-wise this set is amazing. I mean, we do get an alt. vp card with the Castles. Then, I believed Donald X. said we're getting 9 VP token Kingdom cards plus 21 Landmarks and at least 2 Events that make VP. Prior to this including Colonies and VP token cards and all alt. VP, we only had 17 alternative VP conditions. If at least 3 Events make VP then Empires doubles that number within itself. Essentially, after Empires comes out, we're looking at tripling the total amount of VP conditions. 

[ThetaSigma12]

I just realized how much Wild Hunt and Farmers' Market suck in the Black Market deck, Farmer's Market becomes Ruined Market for $4, Wild Hunt a Smithy for $5. Temple doesn't seem that bad though.

[GendoIkari]

I just realized how much Wild Hunt and Farmers' Market suck in the Black Market deck, Farmer's Market becomes Ruined Market for $4, Wild Hunt a Smithy for $5. Temple doesn't seem that bad though.

Wild Hunt from Black Market is still better than Smithy... you have the option to gain an Estate instead of +3 cards. Theoretically useful.

[Beyond Awesome]

Sometimes you need the draw. Smithy for $5 isn't terrible.

[AJD]

I just realized how much Wild Hunt and Farmers' Market suck in the Black Market deck, Farmer's Market becomes Ruined Market for $4, Wild Hunt a Smithy for $5. Temple doesn't seem that bad though.

Oh, huh, interesting. An unintended(?) side effect of using the supply piles for bookkeeping.