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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D5)
« Reply #1775 on: August 10, 2016, 04:15:34 pm »

Yeah, you got me.  Not by best scum game ever.

Good luck to my remaining scumbuddies!
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M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D5)
« Reply #1776 on: August 10, 2016, 04:18:36 pm »

Yeah, you got me.  Not by best scum game ever.

Good luck to my remaining scumbuddies!

Don't use plural just to scare us!

I think you did fine considering the position you were put into.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D5)
« Reply #1777 on: August 10, 2016, 04:19:10 pm »

Not fair to lynch Haddock before I even log on.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D5)
« Reply #1778 on: August 10, 2016, 04:20:14 pm »

Not fair to lynch Haddock before I even log on.

You got to hammer last time. Don't be greedy!
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D5)
« Reply #1779 on: August 10, 2016, 04:22:18 pm »

I just reread the end of D2. Man, Cellovix sure has some confusing interactions.

Haddock pushes iguana and Cellovix there. If you believe in no bussing at that point, that would make EFHW his partner.

However, he only really busses Cellovix for a grand total of 7 minutes. It might just be distancing.

iguana is clearly the most towny player alive.

Thanks for setting up my night kill, ScumGod  >:( >:( >:( 8)
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D5)
« Reply #1780 on: August 10, 2016, 04:24:11 pm »

Yeah, you got me.  Not by best scum game ever.

Good luck to my remaining scumbuddies!
Thanks for telling us! I always hate waiting for the flip. You got J Reggie lynched ahead of you, so seems like you did fine.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D5)
« Reply #1781 on: August 10, 2016, 04:27:13 pm »

Just for the record, here is my full claim.

I have two abilities:

1) One shot commuter. I used it last night, because I was quite afraid that scum had a forced win involving killing both me and another person, and wanted to prevent it. Hopefully, I did. Because now I can't use it tonight.

2) I can go back into the past and watch one person on any night in the past that I choose, if the motivator targets me. But they never did.

I expect to die and have no way to prevent it anymore, and since my role information doesn't flip with me, I wanted you guys to know what I did so you can consider it in your final analysis of the game.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D5)
« Reply #1782 on: August 10, 2016, 04:28:55 pm »

& my final word shall be,

meh.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D5)
« Reply #1783 on: August 10, 2016, 04:33:27 pm »

Vote Count 5.final


Haddock (3): faust, EFHW, Cellovix
EFHW (1): Haddock

Not Voting (1): iguanaiguana


With 5 alive, it took 3 to lynch.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D5)
« Reply #1784 on: August 10, 2016, 04:36:42 pm »

Nathan knew he would finally find one of them.  He had the feeling that this would be the day.

As he interrogated each of the remaining suspects, Haddock just seemed to jump out!

"I've caught you Haddock!"

"meh, ya you did"


Haddock has been lynched!

He was Adam Monroe, the Evil Hero!

Night 5 begins now and ends in 25 hours.  Please submit your night actions in 24 hours, and state in your QT if you have a problem with the night only being 25 hours

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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D6)
« Reply #1785 on: August 11, 2016, 03:26:48 pm »

Nathan was feeling confident that he could finally put a stop to all this.  He felt like he might have already captured all of the perpetrators.

As he was walking down the sidewalk to his work, he felt a sense of joy.  Like he had really made a positive change in the world.

As he was thinking about all of the joyous things in the world, a black, windowless van pulled up right in front of him, a body was rolled out of the door, and the van screeched away.

He ran to the body to see that it was EFHW.  There was a note attached.

If you want to stop us, you have very little time...

Nathan knew that time was short, and that he would need to be quick to stop this crime ring once and for all.


EFHW has died in the night!
  She was Mohinder Suresh, the Scientist

Day 6 begins now

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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D6)
« Reply #1786 on: August 11, 2016, 03:26:56 pm »

Vote Count 6.0

Not Voting (3): faust, Cellovix, iguanaiguana


With 3 alive, it takes 2 to lynch.  Day 6 ends at 4 pm on Sunday, August 21
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D6)
« Reply #1787 on: August 11, 2016, 05:39:29 pm »

lol
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D6)
« Reply #1788 on: August 11, 2016, 05:39:54 pm »

So, which one of you is the scum?
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D6)
« Reply #1789 on: August 11, 2016, 05:47:22 pm »

Welp, here's what's up.

I have the weekend off, then I am working Monday-Saturday next week. I need to figure this out before then, probably on the weekend.

So I guess I'll be doing two targeted rereads, one of Faust and one of Cellovix. Maybe I'll split them up Saturday/Sunday.

Then prolly after that I'll let thing stew a bit and figure out what I think about what I think.

and try to cast a vote sometime in the evening.

Dear other town, which one are you?

I shall do my best to find out!
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D6)
« Reply #1790 on: August 11, 2016, 06:24:39 pm »

Hm, so I was right all along?

Or iguana is scum, and the WIFOM is real.

Tell me iguana, what was the point of your claim?
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D6)
« Reply #1791 on: August 11, 2016, 06:28:14 pm »

This may be my first time ever 3-player LyLo. There was that one game where I made it to 3 alive as Traitor, but that was already decided by then.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D6)
« Reply #1792 on: August 11, 2016, 07:06:44 pm »

This may be my first time ever 3-player LyLo. There was that one game where I made it to 3 alive as Traitor, but that was already decided by then.

Likewise for me, although I suspect it'll be happening more as I do this experiment and play on a lot of new sites to me, as I won't get meta shot night one.

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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D6)
« Reply #1793 on: August 11, 2016, 07:08:07 pm »

Welp, here's what's up.

I have the weekend off, then I am working Monday-Saturday next week. I need to figure this out before then, probably on the weekend.

So I guess I'll be doing two targeted rereads, one of Faust and one of Cellovix. Maybe I'll split them up Saturday/Sunday.

Then prolly after that I'll let thing stew a bit and figure out what I think about what I think.

and try to cast a vote sometime in the evening.

Dear other town, which one are you?

I shall do my best to find out!

Similar, I have a fair bit of free time this weekend, which is when I'll be doing at least one full re-read, maybe two.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D6)
« Reply #1794 on: August 11, 2016, 07:10:58 pm »

As much as I'm tempted to just snap vote Faust, it almost seems too obvious (yes, I know that's a logical fallacy), so I'll make sure I do my due diligence.

Regardless of which one of you is scum though, I've had fun playing with you both this game.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D6)
« Reply #1795 on: August 11, 2016, 07:31:07 pm »

Hm, so I was right all along?

Or iguana is scum, and the WIFOM is real.

Tell me iguana, what was the point of your claim?

To incriminate you, mainly.

If you are scum, I believe that it was possible for Haddock and you to win on N5 by getting two kills, thus making your hard defense of each other reasonable play. I wanted to make it clear before I died that I wasn't targetable on N5, meaning that scum could very well have attempted to kill both Teamlyle and I but failed to kill me.

I wanted this evidence to be considered today, and believed I would probably die at night.

Then, uh, someone, probably you, decided not to kill me, I can only assume for the lulz.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D6)
« Reply #1796 on: August 11, 2016, 07:32:50 pm »

It's my first LyLo too!!

There was that one game (the same one) where I could have won the game for town by targeting Witherweaver instead of you at night, but that doesn't count either.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D6)
« Reply #1797 on: August 11, 2016, 07:49:02 pm »

Hm, so I was right all along?

Or iguana is scum, and the WIFOM is real.

Tell me iguana, what was the point of your claim?

To incriminate you, mainly.

If you are scum, I believe that it was possible for Haddock and you to win on N5 by getting two kills, thus making your hard defense of each other reasonable play. I wanted to make it clear before I died that I wasn't targetable on N5, meaning that scum could very well have attempted to kill both Teamlyle and I but failed to kill me.

I wanted this evidence to be considered today, and believed I would probably die at night.

Then, uh, someone, probably you, decided not to kill me, I can only assume for the lulz.

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Makes sense, good play.  Might have won us the game even.

(Or you could be lying to make it seem like it could have won us the game, but I'm leaning towards the former)
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D6)
« Reply #1798 on: August 11, 2016, 08:50:45 pm »

Going to claim, since no reason not to at this point. I can use my ability tonight, but it can't impact the game in any way that I can imagine, barring multiple revivals.

I am Emma, the Deaf Doctor.  My ability name is Treat, and I can target a player, protecting them from one kill.  I cannot use my ability on consecutive nights.

Night One: I ended up targeting Silver.  I thought about picking Reggie after the claim and Jan's flip, but I figured he'd be redirecting away from himself, and tried to next-level scum and think of who they'd kill if they avoided him.  Silver was the whole reason I came over to play in this game, as I'm trying to play one game in every community represented in the Mafia Championship series.  (I'm a lot more experienced than I tried to make it seem early on, because I rolled a strong power role and wanted to avoid getting SPK'd), and given he performed well in his qualifying game and made the finals he seemed like a likely SPK on N1 if they were avoiding Reggie.

Night Two: I could not use my ability.

Night Three: I missed end of day, and the night action deadline, unfortunately.  I'm not sure who I'd have targeted there, possibly Silver again, but that might be wishful thinking given I know he died. Sorry!

Night Four: I targeted EFHW.  I decided she was the least likely to be scum with Haddock, and was more likely to produce useful analysis over Lyle or Iguana if alive, given the high level of effort she'd put into posting in the neighbor QuickTopic. There was also her unclaimed role that she targeted Faust with on Night Two, which could have been useful or provided clarity.

Night Five: I could not use my ability

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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D6)
« Reply #1799 on: August 11, 2016, 09:13:51 pm »

You can see my progression on asking Haddock if his role would have stopped the night kill, and not thinking his role could co-exist with mine. 

Which Faust conveniently dismissed.  For innocent reasons no doubt.

Links to me talking about this:

1. http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=15223.msg624990#msg624990

2. http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=15223.msg625044#msg625044

3. http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=15223.msg625565#msg625565

In retrospect I obviously should have just straight up lynched him, but I don't know how RMM is balanced, and Faust's claim dissuaded me.

Iguana's claim is a little weird with mine too, but it's only the chance to stop one kill (I think? I'm not super familiar with Commuter as a role) vs. Haddock claiming he'd always come back after dying.

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