Topic: Favorite Trasher-Deck-Thinner Bracket (Apprentice Wins!) (Read 27018 times)

yuma · « **on:** April 11, 2016, 12:30:00 pm »

I don't know why I enjoy these brackets so much. There really isn't a reason to like them, except that they are mindless fun (that and I am not currently in any Forum Games, so need something to occupy my time). So here is another one, this time the ability that blew our minds the moment we realized it could be used for more than just getting rid of curses.... Trashing!

I expanded the topic slightly to accomadate a full 64 seed bracket. I am classifying cards in this bracket as any card that can trash your own cards (not the cards of others, let's save that for the Favorite Attack Bracket), remove cards from your deck permanently or semi-permanently. This includes: trashers, pseudo-trashers and one-shots. Let me know if I missed any. I tried to be thorough.

1 Chapel
64 Hovel

32 Bonfire
33 Mining Village

17 Count
48 Island

16 Amulet
49 Trader

9 Mercenary
56 Embargo

24 Horn of Plenty
41 Trading Post

25 Bishop
40 Native Village

8 Steward
57 Trade Route

4 Masquerade
61 Treasure Map

29 Procession
36 Lookout

20 Dame Anna/Knights
45 Expand

13 Forager
52 Pillage

12 Counterfit
53 Loan

21 Spice Merchant
44 Miser

28 Salvager
37 Doctor

5 Remake
60 Farmland

2 Rebuild
63 Transmute

31 Moneylender
34 Raze

18 Apprentice
47 Wine Merchant

15 Stonemaseon
50 Trade

10 Jack of All Trades
55 Rats

23 Hermit/Madman
42 Graverobber

26 Altar
39 Prince

7 Junk Dealer
58 Taxman

3 Ambassdaor
62 Feast

30 Transmorgrify
35 Remodel

19 Fool's Gold
46 Mint

14 Butcher
51 Death Cart

11 Upgrade
54 Develop

22 Watchtower
43 Plan

27 Ratcather
38 Forge

6 Governor
59 Mine

Seprix · « **Reply #1 on:** April 11, 2016, 12:33:54 pm »

Have fun counting all these votes.

1 Chapel
64 Hovel

32 Bonfire
33 Mining Village

17 Count
48 Island

16 Amulet
49 Trader

9 Mercenary
56 Embargo

24 Horn of Plenty
41 Trading Post

25 Bishop
40 Native Village

8 Steward
57 Trade Route

4 Masquerade
61 Treasure Map

29 Procession
36 Lookout

20 Dame Anna/Knights
45 Expand

13 Forager
52 Pillage

12 Counterfeit
53 Loan

21 Spice Merchant
44 Miser

28 Salvager
37 Doctor

5 Remake
60 Farmland

2 Rebuild
63 Transmute

31 Moneylender
34 Raze

18 Apprentice
47 Wine Merchant

15 Stonemason
50 Trade

10 Jack of All Trades
55 Rats

23 Hermit/Madman
42 Graverobber

26 Altar
39 Prince

7 Junk Dealer
58 Taxman

3 Ambassdaor
62 Feast

30 Transmorgrify
35 Remodel

19 Fool's Gold
46 Mint

14 Butcher
51 Death Cart

11 Upgrade
54 Develop

22 Watchtower
43 Plan

27 Ratcather
38 Forge

6 Governor
59 Mine

At this point, might as well make a bracket for ALL of the Dominion cards.

Chris is me · « **Reply #2 on:** April 11, 2016, 12:38:33 pm »

It's beyond a stretch to call Pillage or Feast "thinning" cards.

yuma · « **Reply #3 on:** April 11, 2016, 12:48:26 pm »

Quote from: Chris is me on April 11, 2016, 12:38:33 pm

It's beyond a stretch to call Pillage or Feast "thinning" cards.

I am not calling them thinning cards. I am calling them one-shot trashers.

Donald X. · « **Reply #4 on:** April 11, 2016, 05:26:17 pm »

Quote from: Chris is me on April 11, 2016, 12:38:33 pm

It's beyond a stretch to call Pillage or Feast "thinning" cards.

Well people can at least vote against the nothing-to-do-with-trashing cards to get rid of them.

1 Chapel
64 Hovel

32 Bonfire, actual trasher
33 Mining Village

17 Count
48 Island

16 Amulet
49 Trader

9 Mercenary, actual trasher
56 Embargo

24 Horn of Plenty
41 Trading Post, actual trasher

25 Bishop
40 Native Village, can be used to get rid of cards in its tricky way

8 Steward
57 Trade Route

4 Masquerade, actual trasher
61 Treasure Map

29 Procession, it trashes Ruinses and maybe that's enough but I'm going with the purer fight with the less fun card
36 Lookout

20 Dame Anna/Knights, what if she's on the bottom, I'm just saying
45 Expand

13 Forager, actual trasher
52 Pillage

12 Counterfight
53 Loan

21 Spice Merchant
44 Miser, does get rid of cards

28 Salvager
37 Doctor

5 Remake
60 Farmland

2 Rebuild, looks like a seeding mistake here
63 Transmute

31 Moneylender
34 Raze

18 Apprentice, actual trasher (and also awesome)
47 Wine Merchant

15 Stonemasion
50 Trade

10 Jack of All Trades
55 Rats, that's some damn low seeding here

23 Hermit/Madman
42 Graverobber

26 Altar, actual trasher
39 Prince, oh man and that Ruins was out of my deck and into my heart and it only cost me $8.

7 Junk Dealer
58 Taxman

3 Aombaossdaor, aoctual traosher
62 Feast

30 Transmorgrifry
35 Remodel

19 Fool's Gold
46 Mint, actual trasher

14 Butcher
51 Death Cart, okay you might buy this defensively but I like Butcher better anyway, phew

11 Upgrade
54 Develop, damn low seed for this awesome card

22 Watchtower, acceptable
43 Plan

27 Ratcatheter
38 Forge

6 Governor
59 Mine

aku_chi · « **Reply #5 on:** April 11, 2016, 09:31:03 pm »

1 Chapel
64 Hovel

32 Bonfire (somebody is going to need to beat me with this before I change my mind)
33 Mining Village (even though it isn't a thinner)

17 Count
48 Island

16 Amulet
49 Trader

9 Mercenary
56 Embargo

24 Horn of Plenty (not a thinner)
41 Trading Post

25 Bishop
40 Native Village

8 Steward
57 Trade Route

4 Masquerade
61 Treasure Map

29 Procession (not much of a thinner, but more fun than Lookout)
36 Lookout

20 Dame Anna/Knights
45 Expand

13 Forager
52 Pillage

12 Counterfeit (possibly my favorite Copper trasher)
53 Loan

21 Spice Merchant
44 Miser

28 Salvager (trashing Coppers with Salvager makes me sad)
37 Doctor

5 Remake
60 Farmland

2 Rebuild (I don't see this going very far, but this card is worth existing, in my opinion)
63 Transmute

31 Moneylender
34 Raze (the new hotness)

18 Apprentice
47 Wine Merchant (Not a thinner or trasher...)

15 Stonemaseon (I love Stonemason shenanigans)
50 Trade

10 Jack of All Trades
55 Rats (Fun when it works, but too often a trap)

23 Hermit/Madman
42 Graverobber

26 Altar
39 Prince

7 Junk Dealer
58 Taxman

3 Ambassador
62 Feast

30 Transmogrify (Really cool card)
35 Remodel

19 Fool's Gold
46 Mint (I'm not a huge fan, but at least it's a thinner...)

14 Butcher (Deceptively powerful)
51 Death Cart

11 Upgrade
54 Develop (Can be amazing, but it often isn't worth it)

22 Watchtower (I suppose it can preemptively thin. Great card, in any event.)
43 Plan

27 Ratcatcher
38 Forge (I don't like this card. It's rarely good as payload, and it's super-expensive for thinning starting cards.)

6 Governor
59 Mine

tripwire · « **Reply #6 on:** April 11, 2016, 11:25:00 pm »

Quote from: Donald X. on April 11, 2016, 05:26:17 pm

27 Ratcatheter

Yikes!

Seprix · « **Reply #7 on:** April 11, 2016, 11:38:31 pm »

Quote from: Donald X. on April 11, 2016, 05:26:17 pm

3 Aombaossdaor, aoctual traosher

Okay. This forum is now over. Nothing said after this can ever be as better as what was said here. We can all go home now.

Roadrunner7671 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 11, 2016, 11:40:38 pm »

1 Chapel
64 Hovel

Um, this trashes itself. And you don't even have to buy it!

32 Bonfire
33 Mining Village

17 Count
48 Island

In what type of world does gaining Coppers and Duchies = trashing??

16 Amulet
49 Trader

Thinning is winning.

9 Mercenary
56 Embargo

Mercenary isn't even in the supply.

24 Horn of Plenty
41 Trading Post

25 Bishop

40 Native Village

8 Steward
57 Trade Route

I'm just voting for the better one here.

4 Masquerade
61 Treasure Map

Oh yessss

29 Procession
36 Lookout

My favorite in this bracket.

20 Dame Anna/Knights
45 Expand

Even though it's superfluous.

13 Forager
52 Pillage

When in doubt, the one that costs more is better.

12 Counterfit
53 Loan

Wtf Counterfeit doesn't even trash.

21 Spice Merchant
44 Spice Merchant

28 Salvager
37 Doctor

Lookout's love child!

5 Remake
60 Farmland

2 Rebuild
63 Transmute

31 Moneylender
34 Raze

Moneylender is too expensive.

18 Apprentice
47 Wine Merchant

The best trasher out there (besides Moat).

15 Stonemaseon
50 Trade

I can't vote for typos.

10 Jack of All Trades
55 Rats

Jack doesn't even thin cause you gain a Silver. Silly Yuma!

23 Hermit
42 Madman

26 Altar
39 Prince

7 Junk Dealer

58 Taxman

3 Ambassdaor
62 Feast

Yeah, cause Ambassador trashes. *scoff*

30 Transmorgrify
35 Remodel

This is the only card in the bracket that trashes.

19 Fool's Gold
46 Mine

14 Butcher

51 Death Cart

11 Upgrade
54 Develop

22 Watchtower
43 Plan

27 Ratcather
38 Forge

We've been over this. No tipos!

6 Governor
59 Mint

Accatitippi · « **Reply #9 on:** April 12, 2016, 10:25:36 am »

1 Chapel
64 Hovel

32 Bonfire
33 Mining Village

17 Count
48 Island

16 Amulet
49 Trader

9 Mercenary
56 Embargo

24 Horn of Plenty
41 Trading Post

25 Bishop
40 Native Village
This one is hard.

8 Steward
57 Trade Route

4 Masquerade
61 Treasure Map

29 Procession
36 Lookout

20 Dame Anna/Knights
45 Expand

13 Forager
52 Pillage

12 Counterfit
53 Loan
Sad to have to vote against loan, it's a fun card.

21 Spice Merchant
44 Miser

28 Salvager
37 Doctor

5 Remake
60 Farmland

2 Rebuild
63 Transmute

31 Moneylender
34 Raze

18 Apprentice
47 Wine Merchant

15 Stonemaseon
50 Trade

10 Jack of All Trades
55 Rats

23 Hermit/Madman
42 Graverobber

26 Altar
39 Prince

7 Junk Dealer
58 Taxman

3 Ambassdaor
62 Feast

30 Transmorgrify
35 Remodel

19 Fool's Gold
46 Mint

14 Butcher
51 Death Cart

11 Upgrade
54 Develop

22 Watchtower
43 Plan

27 Ratcather
38 Forge

6 Governor
59 Mine

Willvon · « **Reply #10 on:** April 12, 2016, 10:00:30 pm »

1 Chapel
64 Hovel

32 Bonfire
33 Mining Village

17 Count
48 Island

16 Amulet
49 Trader

9 Mercenary
56 Embargo

24 Horn of Plenty
41 Trading Post

25 Bishop
40 Native Village

8 Steward
57 Trade Route

4 Masquerade
61 Treasure Map

29 Procession
36 Lookout

20 Dame Anna/Knights
45 Expand

13 Forager
52 Pillage

12 Counterfit
53 Loan

21 Spice Merchant
44 Miser

28 Salvager
37 Doctor

5 Remake
60 Farmland

2 Rebuild
63 Transmute

31 Moneylender
34 Raze

18 Apprentice
47 Wine Merchant

15 Stonemaseon
50 Trade

10 Jack of All Trades
55 Rats
i feel Jack is definitely the better card, but the title asks for favorite. So I have to go with Rats.

23 Hermit/Madman
42 Graverobber

26 Altar
39 Prince

7 Junk Dealer
58 Taxman

3 Ambassdaor
62 Feast

30 Transmogrify
35 Remodel

19 Fool's Gold
46 Mint

14 Butcher
51 Death Cart

11 Upgrade
54 Develop

22 Watchtower
43 Plan

27 Ratcather
38 Forge

6 Governor
59 Mine

Mr Anderson · « **Reply #11 on:** April 13, 2016, 02:18:22 am »

1 Chapel
64 Hovel

32 Bonfire
33 Mining Village

17 Count
48 Island

16 Amulet
49 Trader

9 Mercenary
56 Embargo

24 Horn of Plenty
41 Trading Post

25 Bishop
40 Native Village

8 Steward
57 Trade Route

4 Masquerade
61 Treasure Map

29 Procession
36 Lookout

20 Dame Anna/Knights
45 Expand

13 Forager
52 Pillage

12 Counterfit
53 Loan

21 Spice Merchant
44 Miser

28 Salvager
37 Doctor

5 Remake
60 Farmland

2 Rebuild
63 Transmute

31 Moneylender
34 Raze

18 Apprentice
47 Wine Merchant

15 Stonemaseon
50 Trade

10 Jack of All Trades
55 Rats

23 Hermit/Madman
42 Graverobber

26 Altar
39 Prince

7 Junk Dealer
58 Taxman

3 Ambassdaor
62 Feast

30 Transmorgrify
35 Remodel

19 Fool's Gold
46 Mint

14 Butcher
51 Death Cart

11 Upgrade
54 Develop

22 Watchtower
43 Plan

27 Ratcather
38 Forge

6 Governor
59 Mine

theJester · « **Reply #12 on:** April 13, 2016, 02:50:40 am »

1 Chapel
64 Hovel

32 Bonfire
33 Mining Village

17 Count
48 Island

16 Amulet
49 Trader

9 Mercenary
56 Embargo

24 Horn of Plenty
41 Trading Post

25 Bishop
40 Native Village

8 Steward
57 Trade Route

4 Masquerade
61 Treasure Map

29 Procession
36 Lookout

20 Dame Anna/Knights
45 Expand

13 Forager
52 Pillage

12 Counterfit
53 Loan

21 Spice Merchant
44 Miser

28 Salvager
37 Doctor

5 Remake
60 Farmland

2 Rebuild
63 Transmute

31 Moneylender
34 Raze

18 Apprentice
47 Wine Merchant

15 Stonemason
50 Trade

10 Jack of All Trades
55 Rats

23 Hermit/Madman
42 Graverobber

26 Altar
39 Prince

7 Junk Dealer
58 Taxman

3 Ambassdaor
62 Feast

30 Transmorgrify
35 Remodel

19 Fool's Gold
46 Mint

14 Butcher
51 Death Cart

11 Upgrade
54 Develop

22 Watchtower
43 Plan

27 Ratcather
38 Forge

6 Governor
59 Mine

ThetaSigma12 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 13, 2016, 07:37:55 am »

1 Chapel
64 Hovel

32 Bonfire
33 Mining Village

17 Count
48 Island

16 Amulet
49 Trader

9 Mercenary
56 Embargo

24 Horn of Plenty
41 Trading Post

25 Bishop
40 Native Village

8 Steward
57 Trade Route

4 Masquerade
61 Treasure Map

29 Procession
36 Lookout

20 Dame Anna/Knights
45 Expand

13 Forager
52 Pillage

12 Counterfit
53 Loan

21 Spice Merchant
44 Miser

28 Salvager
37 Doctor

5 Remake
60 Farmland

2 Rebuild
63 Transmute

31 Moneylender
34 Raze

18 Apprentice
47 Wine Merchant

15 Stonemaseon
50 Trade

10 Jack of All Trades
55 Rats

23 Hermit/Madman
42 Graverobber

26 Altar
39 Prince

7 Junk Dealer
58 Taxman

3 Ambassdaor
62 Feast

30 Transmorgrify
35 Remodel

19 Fool's Gold
46 Mint

14 Butcher
51 Death Cart

11 Upgrade
54 Develop

22 Watchtower
43 Plan

27 Ratcather
38 Forge

6 Governor
59 Mine

transportowiec96 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 13, 2016, 09:21:39 am »

1 Chapel
64 Hovel

32 Bonfire
33 Mining Village

17 Count
48 Island

16 Amulet
49 Trader

9 Mercenary
56 Embargo

24 Horn of Plenty
41 Trading Post

25 Bishop
40 Native Village

8 Steward
57 Trade Route

4 Masquerade
61 Treasure Map

29 Procession
36 Lookout

20 Dame Anna/Knights
45 Expand

13 Forager
52 Pillage

12 Counterfit
53 Loan

21 Spice Merchant
44 Miser

28 Salvager
37 Doctor

5 Remake
60 Farmland

2 Rebuild
63 Transmute

31 Moneylender
34 Raze

18 Apprentice
47 Wine Merchant

15 Stonemaseon
50 Trade

10 Jack of All Trades
55 Rats

23 Hermit/Madman
42 Graverobber

26 Altar
39 Prince

7 Junk Dealer
58 Taxman

3 Ambassdaor
62 Feast

30 Transmorgify
35 Remodel

19 Fool's Gold
46 Mint

14 Butcher
51 Death Cart

11 Upgrade
54 Develop

22 Watchtower
43 Plan

27 Ratcather
38 Forge

6 Governor
59 Mine

brokoli · « **Reply #15 on:** April 13, 2016, 02:55:04 pm »

As always, I'll vote for adventure cards only if I theorically like them (I might change my vote if adventures is available meantime… lol).
Some really tough decisions… my top favorites are Procession, Develop, Farmland and Rats. Least favorite are Doctor, Governor and Ambassador (the only three names ending with -or).

Also, I love how the (presumably) strongest card of the bracket is against the weakest : Rebuild / Transmute.

1 Chapel
64 Hovel

32 Bonfire
33 Mining Village

17 Count
48 Island

16 Amulet
49 Trader

9 Mercenary
56 Embargo

24 Horn of Plenty
41 Trading Post

25 Bishop
40 Native Village

8 Steward
57 Trade Route

4 Masquerade
61 Treasure Map

29 Procession
36 Lookout

20 Dame Anna/Knights
45 Expand

13 Forager
52 Pillage

12 Counterfit
53 Loan

21 Spice Merchant
44 Miser

28 Salvager
37 Doctor

5 Remake
60 Farmland

2 Rebuild
63 Transmute

31 Moneylender
34 Raze

18 Apprentice
47 Wine Merchant

15 Stonemaseon
50 Trade

10 Jack of All Trades
55 Rats

23 Hermit/Madman
42 Graverobber

26 Altar
39 Prince

7 Junk Dealer
58 Taxman

3 Ambassdaor
62 Feast

30 Transmorgrify
35 Remodel

19 Fool's Gold
46 Mint

14 Butcher
51 Death Cart

11 Upgrade
54 Develop

22 Watchtower
43 Plan

27 Ratcather
38 Forge

6 Governor
59 Mine

McGarnacle · « **Reply #16 on:** April 13, 2016, 03:05:27 pm »

1 Chapel
64 Hovel

32 Bonfire
33 Mining Village

17 Count My favorite of them all
48 Island

16 Amulet
49 Trader

9 Mercenary
56 Embargo

24 Horn of Plenty
41 Trading Post

25 Bishop
40 Native Village

8 Steward
57 Trade Route

4 Masquerade
61 Treasure Map

29 Procession
36 Lookout

20 Dame Anna/Knights
45 Expand

13 Forager
52 Pillage

12 Counterfit
53 Loan

21 Spice Merchant
44 Miser

28 Salvager
37 Doctor

5 Remake
60 Farmland

2 Rebuild
63 Transmute

31 Moneylender
34 Raze

18 Apprentice
47 Wine Merchant

15 Stonemaseon
50 Trade

10 Jack of All Trades
55 Rats

23 Hermit/Madman
42 Graverobber

26 Altar
39 Prince

7 Junk Dealer
58 Taxman

3 Ambassador
62 Feast

30 Transmogrify
35 Remodel

19 Fool's Gold
46 Mint

14 Butcher
51 Death Cart

11 Upgrade
54 Develop

22 Watchtower
43 Plan

27 Ratcather
38 Forge

6 Governor
59 Mine

papadjango · « **Reply #17 on:** April 13, 2016, 05:04:36 pm »

1 Chapel
64 Hovel

32 Bonfire
33 Mining Village

17 Count
48 Island

16 Amulet
49 Trader

9 Mercenary
56 Embargo

24 Horn of Plenty
41 Trading Post

25 Bishop
40 Native Village

8 Steward
57 Trade Route

4 Masquerade
61 Treasure Map

29 Procession
36 Lookout

20 Dame Anna/Knights
45 Expand

13 Forager
52 Pillage

12 Counterfit
53 Loan

21 Spice Merchant
44 Miser

28 Salvager
37 Doctor

5 Remake
60 Farmland

2 Rebuild
63 Transmute

31 Moneylender
34 Raze

18 Apprentice
47 Wine Merchant

15 Stonemaseon
50 Trade

10 Jack of All Trades
55 Rats

23 Hermit/Madman
42 Graverobber

26 Altar
39 Prince

7 Junk Dealer
58 Taxman

3 Ambassdaor
62 Feast

30 Transmorgrify
35 Remodel

19 Fool's Gold
46 Mint

14 Butcher
51 Death Cart

11 Upgrade
54 Develop

22 Watchtower
43 Plan

27 Ratcather
38 Forge

6 Governor
59 Mine

J Reggie · « **Reply #18 on:** April 14, 2016, 12:57:26 pm »

1 Chapel
64 Hovel

32 Bonfire
33 Mining Village

17 Count
48 Island

16 Amulet
49 Trader

9 Mercenary
56 Embargo
I, unlike most people, find Urchin fun.

24 Horn of Plenty
41 Trading Post
One of my friends who is a relatively new player really likes trashing cards and really likes Silver. I showed her this card and it was instantly her favorite.

25 Bishop
40 Native Village
Yay Bishop

8 Steward
57 Trade Route
I love it when Trade Route is worth $12.

4 Masquerade
61 Treasure Map

29 Procession
36 Lookout

20 Dame Anna/Knights
45 Expand
I recently played a game with Knights that went more than 40 turns and made me late for class.

13 Forager
52 Pillage

12 Counterfeit
53 Loan

21 Spice Merchant
44 Miser
So underrated

28 Salvager
37 Doctor
The last time I resigned a game it was because of Doctor. I still felt bad about it, because my opponent was doing something good, but it was like 7 turns in and I hadn't done anything useful in the last 3.

5 Remake
60 Farmland

2 Rebuild
63 Transmute
Ugh, pretty much the only reason I'd vote for Transmute here. It's a pretty interesting card though.

31 Moneylender
34 Raze

18 Apprentice
47 Wine Merchant

15 Stonemaseon
50 Trade

10 Jack of All Trades
55 Rats

23 Hermit/Madman
42 Graverobber

26 Altar
39 Prince

7 Junk Dealer
58 Taxman
I still don't understand why Junk Dealer isn't a junking attack.

3 Ambassdaor
62 Feast

30 Transmorgrify
35 Remodel

19 Fool's Gold
46 Mint
But having both is better.

14 Butcher
51 Death Cart

11 Upgrade
54 Develop

22 Watchtower
43 Plan

27 Ratcather
38 Forge

6 Governor
59 Mine
Mind doesn't give your opponents the opportunity to gain Provinces during your turn.

yuma · « **Reply #19 on:** April 14, 2016, 02:47:17 pm »

Round 1 Results:

1 Chapel - 15
64 Hovel - 0

32 Bonfire - 12
33 Mining Village - 3

17 Count - 9
48 Island - 6

16 Amulet - 13
49 Trader - 2

9 Mercenary - 12
56 Embargo - 3

24 Horn of Plenty - 7
41 Trading Post - 8

25 Bishop - 14
40 Native Village - 1

8 Steward - 9
57 Trade Route - 6

4 Masquerade - 13
61 Treasure Map - 2

29 Procession - 9
36 Lookout - 6

20 Dame Anna/Knights - 1
45 Expand - 14

13 Forager - 13
52 Pillage - 2

12 Counterfit - 13
53 Loan - 2

21 Spice Merchant - 6
44 Miser - 9

28 Salvager - 10
37 Doctor - 5

5 Remake - 11
60 Farmland - 4

2 Rebuild - 8
63 Transmute - 7

31 Moneylender - 6
34 Raze - 9

18 Apprentice - 14
47 Wine Merchant - 1

15 Stonemason - 14
50 Trade - 1

10 Jack of All Trades - 6
55 Rats - 9

23 Hermit/Madman - 6
42 Graverobber - 9

26 Altar - 13
39 Prince - 2

7 Junk Dealer - 13
58 Taxman - 2

3 Ambassdaor - 11
62 Feast - 4

30 Transmorgrify - 7
35 Remodel - 8

19 Fool's Gold - 3
46 Mint - 12

14 Butcher - 12
51 Death Cart - 3

11 Upgrade - 11
54 Develop - 4

22 Watchtower - 10
43 Plan - 5

27 Ratcatcher - 5
38 Forge - 10

6 Governor - 8
59 Mine - 6

Rebuild barely survives, surprised Develop didn't put up more of a fight against Upgrade. Lots of blow-outs. PS: Seeding was done by using Qvists all card rankings.
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Round 2

1 Chapel
32 Bonfire

17 Count
16 Amulet

9 Mercenary
41 Trading Post

25 Bishop
8 Steward

4 Masquerade
29 Procession

45 Expand
13 Forager

12 Counterfit
44 Miser

28 Salvager
5 Remake

2 Rebuild
34 Raze

18 Apprentice
15 Stonemason

55 Rats
42 Graverobber

26 Altar
7 Junk Dealer

3 Ambassador
8 Remodel

46 Mint
14 Butcher

11 Upgrade
22 Watchtower

38 Forge
6 Governor

Seprix · « **Reply #20 on:** April 14, 2016, 03:10:37 pm »

1 Chapel
32 Bonfire

17 Count
16 Amulet

9 Mercenary
41 Trading Post

25 Bishop
8 Steward

4 Masquerade
29 Procession

45 Expand
13 Forager

12 Counterfeit
44 Miser

28 Salvager
5 Remake

2 Rebuild
34 Raze

18 Apprentice
15 Stonemason

55 Rats
42 Graverobber

26 Altar
7 Junk Dealer

3 Ambassador
8 Remodel

46 Mint
14 Butcher

11 Upgrade
22 Watchtower

38 Forge
6 Governor

Accatitippi · « **Reply #21 on:** April 14, 2016, 04:40:11 pm »

1 Chapel
32 Bonfire

17 Count
16 Amulet

9 Mercenary
41 Trading Post

25 Bishop
8 Steward

4 Masquerade
29 Procession

45 Expand
13 Forager

12 Counterfit
44 Miser

28 Salvager
5 Remake

2 Rebuild
34 Raze

18 Apprentice
15 Stonemason

55 Rats
42 Graverobber

26 Altar
7 Junk Dealer

3 Ambassador
8 Remodel

46 Mint
14 Butcher

11 Upgrade
22 Watchtower

38 Forge
6 Governor

ThetaSigma12 · « **Reply #22 on:** April 14, 2016, 05:24:17 pm »

1 Chapel
32 Bonfire

17 Count
16 Amulet

9 Mercenary
41 Trading Post

25 Bishop
8 Steward

4 Masquerade
29 Procession

45 Expand
13 Forager

12 Counterfit
44 Miser

28 Salvager
5 Remake

2 Rebuild
34 Raze

18 Apprentice
15 Stonemason

55 Rats
42 Graverobber

26 Altar
7 Junk Dealer

3 Ambassador
8 Remodel

46 Mint
14 Butcher

11 Upgrade
22 Watchtower

38 Forge
6 Governor

aku_chi · « **Reply #23 on:** April 14, 2016, 08:47:50 pm »

1 Chapel
32 Bonfire

17 Count
16 Amulet

9 Mercenary
41 Trading Post

25 Bishop (Steward may be more powerful, but Bishop is a higher-skill card, and golden decks are cool.)
8 Steward

4 Masquerade
29 Procession

45 Expand
13 Forager

12 Counterfeit
44 Miser

28 Salvager
5 Remake

2 Rebuild
34 Raze

18 Apprentice
15 Stonemason (Tough one, but Stonemason is just bonkers. Super high-skill card.)

55 Rats (I didn't vote for either of these cards last round. Bah.)
42 Graverobber

26 Altar
7 Junk Dealer

3 Ambassador
8 Remodel

46 Mint
14 Butcher

11 Upgrade
22 Watchtower (Not a thinner, but a really cool card.)

38 Forge
6 Governor

Roadrunner7671 · « **Reply #24 on:** April 14, 2016, 08:56:02 pm »

Hovel had more than zero votes. I demand a recount.

Seprix · « **Reply #25 on:** April 14, 2016, 09:04:26 pm »

Quote from: Roadrunner7671 on April 14, 2016, 08:56:02 pm

Hovel had more than zero votes. I demand a recount.

I voted for Hovel. Chapel is so passé.

Roadrunner7671 · « **Reply #26 on:** April 14, 2016, 09:05:55 pm »

Quote from: Seprix on April 14, 2016, 09:04:26 pm

Quote from: Roadrunner7671 on April 14, 2016, 08:56:02 pm
Hovel had more than zero votes. I demand a recount.

I voted for Hovel. Chapel is so passé.

So did I!

Seprix · « **Reply #27 on:** April 14, 2016, 09:11:08 pm »

Quote from: Roadrunner7671 on April 14, 2016, 09:05:55 pm

Quote from: Seprix on April 14, 2016, 09:04:26 pm
Quote from: Roadrunner7671 on April 14, 2016, 08:56:02 pm
Hovel had more than zero votes. I demand a recount.

I voted for Hovel. Chapel is so passé.
So did I!

I know. You vote for every bad card.

Willvon · « **Reply #28 on:** April 14, 2016, 10:55:48 pm »

Round 2

1 Chapel
32 Bonfire

17 Count
16 Amulet

9 Mercenary
41 Trading Post

25 Bishop
8 Steward

4 Masquerade
29 Procession

45 Expand
13 Forager

12 Counterfit
44 Miser

28 Salvager
5 Remake

2 Rebuild
34 Raze

18 Apprentice
15 Stonemason

55 Rats
42 Graverobber

26 Altar
7 Junk Dealer

3 Ambassador
8 Remodel

46 Mint
14 Butcher

11 Upgrade
22 Watchtower

38 Forge
6 Governor

McGarnacle · « **Reply #29 on:** April 15, 2016, 11:52:28 am »

1 Chapel
32 Bonfire

17 Count
16 Amulet

9 Mercenary
41 Trading Post

25 Bishop
8 Steward

4 Masquerade
29 Procession

45 Expand
13 Forager

12 Counterfit
44 Miser

28 Salvager
5 Remake

2 Rebuild
34 Raze

18 Apprentice
15 Stonemason

55 Rats
42 Graverobber

26 Altar
7 Junk Dealer

3 Ambassador
8 Remodel

46 Mint
14 Butcher

11 Upgrade
22 Watchtower

38 Forge
6 Governor

brokoli · « **Reply #30 on:** April 15, 2016, 12:40:34 pm »

Pretty impressed how my opinion is different from the rest of the world. I understand that a lot of cards lose because they are not really trasher-thinners. But still... as in the alt vp bracket, it seems like lot of fds users like strong cards more than rather weak or subtle cards $:-\$

1 Chapel
32 Bonfire

17 Count
16 Amulet

9 Mercenary
41 Trading Post

25 Bishop
8 Steward

4 Masquerade
29 Procession

45 Expand
13 Forager

12 Counterfit
44 Miser

28 Salvager
5 Remake

2 Rebuild
34 Raze

18 Apprentice (I love both)
15 Stonemason

55 Rats
42 Graverobber

26 Altar
7 Junk Dealer

3 Ambassador
8 Remodel

46 Mint
14 Butcher

11 Upgrade
22 Watchtower

38 Forge
6 Governor

Moneymodel · « **Reply #31 on:** April 15, 2016, 02:00:11 pm »

1 Chapel
32 Bonfire

17 Count
16 Amulet

9 Mercenary
41 Trading Post

25 Bishop
8 Steward

4 Masquerade
29 Procession

45 Expand
13 Forager

12 Counterfit
44 Miser

28 Salvager
5 Remake

2 Rebuild
34 Raze

18 Apprentice
15 Stonemason

55 Rats
42 Graverobber

26 Altar
7 Junk Dealer

3 Ambassador
8 Remodel

46 Mint
14 Butcher

11 Upgrade
22 Watchtower

38 Forge
6 Governor

Witherweaver · « **Reply #32 on:** April 15, 2016, 02:02:59 pm »

No Bomb. I demand a recount.

theJester · « **Reply #33 on:** April 16, 2016, 04:55:53 am »

1 Chapel
32 Bonfire

17 Count
16 Amulet

9 Mercenary
41 Trading Post

25 Bishop
8 Steward

4 Masquerade
29 Procession

45 Expand
13 Forager

12 Counterfit
44 Miser

28 Salvager
5 Remake

2 Rebuild
34 Raze

18 Apprentice
15 Stonemason

55 Rats
42 Graverobber

26 Altar
7 Junk Dealer

3 Ambassador
8 Remodel

46 Mint
14 Butcher

11 Upgrade
22 Watchtower

38 Forge
6 Governor

Witherweaver · « **Reply #34 on:** April 16, 2016, 12:57:16 pm »

I guess I'll jump in at this point:

1 Chapel
32 Bonfire

17 Count
16 Amulet

9 Mercenary
41 Trading Post

25 Bishop
8 Steward

4 Masquerade
29 Procession

45 Expand
13 Forager

12 Counterfeit
44 Miser

28 Salvager
5 Remake

2 Rebuild
34 Raze

18 Apprentice
15 Stonemason

55 Rats
42 Graverobber

26 Altar
7 Junk Dealer

3 Ambassador
8 Remodel

46 Mint
14 Butcher

11 Upgrade
22 Watchtower

38 Forge
6 Governor

Watchtower vs. Upgrade was tough.. Upgrade is more of a trasher-thinner type thing.. can do some thinning and also gaining. Watchtower is just cool, and when its trashing is useful it tends to be very useful. Plus other utility. All-around more enjoyable card.

Rebuild is good, but I don't particularly enjoy it. I don't really like Stonemason either, or Governor. Both are probably just because I don't use them well. Though Forge gets a minus for me for all those annoying times when you draw Forge together with exactly the stuff you don't want to Forge and never with the stuff that you do. Forge+Rats is cool, though. Anyway, decided on Forge over Governor for no good reason. Sometimes the underdog wins.

Scion · « **Reply #35 on:** April 19, 2016, 11:05:07 am »

1 Chapel
32 Bonfire

17 Count
16 Amulet

9 Mercenary
41 Trading Post

25 Bishop
8 Steward

4 Masquerade
29 Procession

45 Expand
13 Forager

12 Counterfeit
44 Miser

28 Salvager
5 Remake

2 Rebuild
34 Raze

18 Apprentice
15 Stonemason

55 Rats
42 Graverobber

26 Altar
7 Junk Dealer

3 Ambassador
8 Remodel

46 Mint
14 Butcher

11 Upgrade
22 Watchtower

38 Forge
6 Governor

I didn't vote for the ones that don't meet my arbitrary definition of trasher (e.g. Governor, Rats, Remodel)

Mr Anderson · « **Reply #36 on:** April 19, 2016, 11:29:50 am »

1 Chapel
32 Bonfire

17 Count
16 Amulet

9 Mercenary
41 Trading Post

25 Bishop
8 Steward

4 Masquerade
29 Procession

45 Expand
13 Forager

12 Counterfit
44 Miser

28 Salvager
5 Remake

2 Rebuild
34 Raze

18 Apprentice
15 Stonemason

55 Rats
42 Graverobber

26 Altar
7 Junk Dealer

3 Ambassador
8 Remodel

46 Mint
14 Butcher

11 Upgrade
22 Watchtower

38 Forge
6 Governor

yuma · « **Reply #37 on:** April 19, 2016, 11:44:07 am »

1 Chapel - 11
32 Bonfire - 2

17 Count - 12
16 Amulet - 1

9 Mercenary - 9
41 Trading Post - 4

25 Bishop - 8
8 Steward - 5

4 Masquerade - 8
29 Procession - 5

45 Expand - 2
13 Forager - 11

12 Counterfeit - 10
44 Miser - 3

28 Salvager - 3
5 Remake - 10

2 Rebuild - 3
34 Raze - 10

18 Apprentice - 9
15 Stonemason - 4

55 Rats - 7
42 Graverobber - 5

26 Altar - 6
7 Junk Dealer - 7

3 Ambassador - 10
8 Remodel - 4

46 Mint - 3
14 Butcher - 9

11 Upgrade - 7
22 Watchtower - 6

38 Forge - 7
6 Governor - 6

Rebuild goes down in Round 2. Rats survives. Upgrade and Forge just sneak past Watchtower and Governor. Remaining contestants are almost exclusively real Trashers now.
_________________________________________________________

Round Three:

1 Chapel
17 Count

9 Mercenary
25 Bishop

4 Masquerade
13 Forager

12 Counterfeit
5 Remake

34 Raze
18 Apprentice

55 Rats
7 Junk Dealer

3 Ambassador
14 Butcher

11 Upgrade
38 Forge

singletee · « **Reply #38 on:** April 19, 2016, 11:48:06 am »

1 Chapel
17 Count

9 Mercenary
25 Bishop

4 Masquerade
13 Forager

12 Counterfeit
5 Remake

34 Raze
18 Apprentice

55 Rats
7 Junk Dealer

3 Ambassador
14 Butcher

11 Upgrade
38 Forge

Roadrunner7671 · « **Reply #39 on:** April 19, 2016, 11:57:08 am »

17 9 4 12 34 55
14 11

LostPhoenix · « **Reply #40 on:** April 19, 2016, 12:25:51 pm »

1 Chapel
17 Count

9 Mercenary
25 Bishop

4 Masquerade
13 Forager

12 Counterfeit
5 Remake

34 Raze
18 Apprentice

55 Rats
7 Junk Dealer

3 Ambassador
14 Butcher

11 Upgrade
38 Forge

Accatitippi · « **Reply #41 on:** April 19, 2016, 12:26:42 pm »

1 Chapel
17 Count

9 Mercenary
25 Bishop

4 Masquerade
13 Forager

12 Counterfeit
5 Remake

34 Raze
18 Apprentice

55 Rats
7 Junk Dealer

3 Ambassador
14 Butcher

11 Upgrade
38 Forge

navical · « **Reply #42 on:** April 19, 2016, 12:31:44 pm »

1 Chapel
17 Count

9 Mercenary
25 Bishop

4 Masquerade
13 Forager

12 Counterfeit
5 Remake

34 Raze
18 Apprentice

55 Rats
7 Junk Dealer

3 Ambassador
14 Butcher

11 Upgrade
38 Forge

math · « **Reply #43 on:** April 19, 2016, 02:13:56 pm »

1 Chapel
17 Count

9 Mercenary
25 Bishop

4 Masquerade
13 Forager

12 Counterfeit
5 Remake

34 Raze
18 Apprentice

55 Rats
7 Junk Dealer

3 Ambassador
14 Butcher

11 Upgrade
38 Forge

Scion · « **Reply #44 on:** April 19, 2016, 04:56:48 pm »

1 Chapel
17 Count

9 Mercenary
25 Bishop

4 Masquerade
13 Forager

12 Counterfeit
5 Remake

34 Raze
18 Apprentice

55 Rats
7 Junk Dealer

3 Ambassador
14 Butcher

11 Upgrade
38 Forge

Witherweaver · « **Reply #45 on:** April 19, 2016, 04:58:29 pm »

Quote from: Scion on April 19, 2016, 04:56:48 pm

34 Raze
18 Apprentice

You were obligated here.

Moneymodel · « **Reply #46 on:** April 19, 2016, 10:06:26 pm »

1 Chapel
17 Count
Close one for me

9 Mercenary
25 Bishop

4 Masquerade
13 Forager

12 Counterfeit
5 Remake

34 Raze
18 Apprentice

55 Rats
7 Junk Dealer

3 Ambassador
14 Butcher

11 Upgrade
38 Forge
Also close

Willvon · « **Reply #47 on:** April 19, 2016, 10:46:41 pm »

Round Three:

1 Chapel
17 Count

9 Mercenary
25 Bishop

4 Masquerade
13 Forager

12 Counterfeit
5 Remake

34 Raze
18 Apprentice

55 Rats
7 Junk Dealer

3 Ambassador
14 Butcher

11 Upgrade
38 Forge

SirSlugma · « **Reply #48 on:** April 19, 2016, 11:26:41 pm »

1 Chapel
17 Count

9 Mercenary
25 Bishop

4 Masquerade
13 Forager

12 Counterfeit
5 Remake

34 Raze
18 Apprentice

55 Rats
7 Junk Dealer

3 Ambassador
14 Butcher

11 Upgrade
38 Forge

ThetaSigma12 · « **Reply #49 on:** April 20, 2016, 07:15:53 am »

1 Chapel
17 Count

9 Mercenary
25 Bishop

4 Masquerade
13 Forager

12 Counterfeit
5 Remake

34 Raze
18 Apprentice

55 Rats
7 Junk Dealer

3 Ambassador
14 Butcher

11 Upgrade
38 Forge

aku_chi · « **Reply #50 on:** April 20, 2016, 08:38:51 am »

1 Chapel
17 Count (Both cards favor a 5/2 opening, Chapel is stronger, but Count is more interesting.)

9 Mercenary (I don't have a great time in Mercenary games.)
25 Bishop

4 Masquerade (Tough one. But passing cards is unique and fun.)
13 Forager

12 Counterfeit
5 Remake (My favorite trasher. Remake + Menagerie kingdoms are some of my favorites.)

34 Raze
18 Apprentice

55 Rats
7 Junk Dealer

3 Ambassador
14 Butcher (I haven't come close to mastering Butcher yet. I enjoy Ambassador more for now.)

11 Upgrade
38 Forge

theJester · « **Reply #51 on:** April 20, 2016, 09:23:03 am »

1 Chapel
17 Count - more interesting

9 Mercenary
25 Bishop - ugh, I hate Mercenary. So powerful and so luck-dependant

4 Masquerade - both are great, Masq is just a little bit cooler
13 Forager

12 Counterfeit
5 Remake - awesomely designed card, fantastic in the opening and later usable for various shanenigans

34 Raze
18 Apprentice - just seems more straightforward and interesting out of two

55 Rats
7 Junk Dealer - I so rarely find a game where Rats could be useful. When they are, they're awesome, but most of the time...

3 Ambassador
14 Butcher - I really dislike Ambassador tennis in the start. And it's often unavoidable due to Amb's strength

11 Upgrade - tough choice. I like both.
38 Forge

papadjango · « **Reply #52 on:** April 20, 2016, 03:51:45 pm »

1 Chapel
17 Count

9 Mercenary
25 Bishop

4 Masquerade
13 Forager

12 Counterfeit
5 Remake

34 Raze
18 Apprentice

55 Rats
7 Junk Dealer

3 Ambassador
14 Butcher

11 Upgrade
38 Forge

werothegreat · « **Reply #53 on:** April 20, 2016, 04:01:19 pm »

1 Chapel
17 Count

9 Mercenary
25 Bishop

4 Masquerade
13 Forager

12 Counterfeit
5 Remake

34 Raze
18 Apprentice

55 Rats
7 Junk Dealer

3 Ambassador
14 Butcher

11 Upgrade
38 Forge

ced · « **Reply #54 on:** April 20, 2016, 04:03:16 pm »

1 Chapel
17 Count

9 Mercenary
25 Bishop

4 Masquerade
13 Forager

12 Counterfeit
5 Remake

34 Raze
18 Apprentice

55 Rats
7 Junk Dealer

3 Ambassador
14 Butcher

11 Upgrade
38 Forge

ponnuki · « **Reply #55 on:** April 21, 2016, 11:46:47 am »

1 Chapel
17 Count

9 Mercenary
25 Bishop

4 Masquerade
13 Forager

12 Counterfeit
5 Remake

34 Raze
18 Apprentice

55 Rats
7 Junk Dealer

3 Ambassador
14 Butcher

11 Upgrade
38 Forge

yuma · « **Reply #56 on:** April 25, 2016, 09:47:28 am »

Round Three:

1 Chapel 10
17 Count 8

9 Mercenary 6
25 Bishop 12

4 Masquerade 11
13 Forager 7

12 Counterfeit 8
5 Remake 10

34 Raze 5
18 Apprentice 13

55 Rats 7
7 Junk Dealer 11

3 Ambassador 8
14 Butcher 10

11 Upgrade 8
38 Forge 10

Some much closer matchups and some more upsets. Chapel barely got by Count. That was a bit surprising. Apprentice and Bishop were the only clear winners. Because they are loved or because the cards they were matched up against aren't very popular? The cards that are left are all pretty unique in their own ways.

Round 4

1 Chapel
25 Bishop

4 Masquerade
5 Remake

18 Apprentice
7 Junk Dealer

14 Butcher
38 Forge

McGarnacle · « **Reply #57 on:** April 25, 2016, 10:09:42 am »

1 Chapel
25 Bishop

4 Masquerade
5 Remake

18 Apprentice
7 Junk Dealer

14 Butcher
38 Forge

McGarnacle · « **Reply #58 on:** April 25, 2016, 10:12:14 am »

Yuma, how close was Count to beating Chapel? I was going to vote for Count (it's my favorite card) and now I feel personally responsible.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ThetaSigma12 · « **Reply #59 on:** April 25, 2016, 10:16:53 am »

1 Chapel
25 Bishop Just way more interesting. It also combines some of my two favorite concepts, Non-Attack interaction and VP tokens.

4 Masquerade More unique, and I always found remake to be an annoying card.
5 Remake

18 Apprentice I hate the art on junk dealer and the forced trashing drives me nuts.
7 Junk Dealer

14 Butcher What's even the point of forge? Draw an large amount of junk, trash it, and gain a...copper?
38 Forge

papadjango · « **Reply #60 on:** April 25, 2016, 10:17:44 am »

1 Chapel
25 Bishop

4 Masquerade
5 Remake

18 Apprentice
7 Junk Dealer

14 Butcher
38 Forge

yuma · « **Reply #61 on:** April 25, 2016, 10:27:27 am »

Quote from: McGarnacle on April 25, 2016, 10:12:14 am

Yuma, how close was Count to beating Chapel? I was going to vote for Count (it's my favorite card) and now I feel personally responsible.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My vote ended up being the deciding vote. Your vote would have made it 10 - 9. So Count would have still lost. Unless another person also voted for Count after/before you.

Not having deadlines on these things makes the time to count votes ambiguous, but I am OK with that.

Hugovj · « **Reply #62 on:** April 25, 2016, 11:07:49 am »

Round 4

1 Chapel
25 Bishop

4 Masquerade
5 Remake

18 Apprentice
7 Junk Dealer

14 Butcher
38 Forge

Witherweaver · « **Reply #63 on:** April 25, 2016, 11:36:11 am »

1 Chapel
25 Bishop

4 Masquerade
5 Remake

18 Apprentice
7 Junk Dealer

14 Butcher
38 Forge

McGarnacle · « **Reply #64 on:** April 25, 2016, 12:29:39 pm »

Quote from: yuma on April 25, 2016, 10:27:27 am

Quote from: McGarnacle on April 25, 2016, 10:12:14 am
Yuma, how close was Count to beating Chapel? I was going to vote for Count (it's my favorite card) and now I feel personally responsible.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My vote ended up being the deciding vote. Your vote would have made it 10 - 9. So Count would have still lost. Unless another person also voted for Count after/before you.

Not having deadlines on these things makes the time to count votes ambiguous, but I am OK with that.

Thank you, Yuma. I'm glad that it's not my fault the Count died. It's actually all those people who voted for Chapels' fault.

singletee · « **Reply #65 on:** April 25, 2016, 01:49:01 pm »

1 Chapel
25 Bishop

4 Masquerade
5 Remake

18 Apprentice
7 Junk Dealer

14 Butcher
38 Forge

Scion · « **Reply #66 on:** April 25, 2016, 01:49:12 pm »

Quote from: McGarnacle on April 25, 2016, 12:29:39 pm

Quote from: yuma on April 25, 2016, 10:27:27 am
Quote from: McGarnacle on April 25, 2016, 10:12:14 am
Yuma, how close was Count to beating Chapel? I was going to vote for Count (it's my favorite card) and now I feel personally responsible.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My vote ended up being the deciding vote. Your vote would have made it 10 - 9. So Count would have still lost. Unless another person also voted for Count after/before you.

Not having deadlines on these things makes the time to count votes ambiguous, but I am OK with that.

Thank you, Yuma. I'm glad that it's not my fault the Count died. It's actually all those people who voted for Chapels' fault.

As one of those people who voted Chapel over Count, I apologize. I've played a bunch of games with Count over the past week, and I definitely would have voted for differently if I was voting today.

Scion · « **Reply #67 on:** April 25, 2016, 01:50:54 pm »

1 Chapel
25 Bishop

4 Masquerade
5 Remake

18 Apprentice
7 Junk Dealer

14 Butcher
38 Forge

singletee · « **Reply #68 on:** April 25, 2016, 02:01:21 pm »

Quote from: ThetaSigma12 on April 25, 2016, 10:16:53 am

What's even the point of forge? Draw an large amount of junk, trash it, and gain a...copper?

It's for this:

singletee plays a Forge.
... trashing 6 Coppers, a Workshop, and 3 Estates.
... gaining a Platinum.

Accatitippi · « **Reply #69 on:** April 25, 2016, 02:05:42 pm »

Bishop
Masquerade
Apprentice
Forge

With the exception of Junk Dealer, which is good but uninteresting, I'm fine with any of the contestants winning the Bracket.

brokoli · « **Reply #70 on:** April 25, 2016, 04:00:15 pm »

Go Forge !

1 Chapel
25 Bishop

4 Masquerade
5 Remake

18 Apprentice
7 Junk Dealer

14 Butcher
38 Forge

SirSlugma · « **Reply #71 on:** April 25, 2016, 04:02:16 pm »

25 Bishop
5 Remake
18 Apprentice
14 Butcher

t4b 4 life

liopoil · « **Reply #72 on:** April 25, 2016, 04:49:57 pm »

Chapel
Remake
Apprentice
Forge

math · « **Reply #73 on:** April 25, 2016, 08:48:33 pm »

1 Chapel
25 Bishop

4 Masquerade
5 Remake

18 Apprentice
7 Junk Dealer

14 Butcher
38 Forge

2.71828..... · « **Reply #74 on:** April 25, 2016, 10:53:48 pm »

25 Bishop
5 Remake
18 Apprentice
14 Butcher

Seprix · « **Reply #75 on:** April 25, 2016, 10:54:03 pm »

1 Chapel
25 Bishop

4 Masquerade
5 Remake

18 Apprentice
7 Junk Dealer

14 Butcher
38 Forge

aku_chi · « **Reply #76 on:** April 26, 2016, 08:40:39 am »

1 Chapel
25 Bishop (VP chips are best chips.)

4 Masquerade
5 Remake

18 Apprentice
7 Junk Dealer

14 Butcher
38 Forge

Roadrunner7671 · « **Reply #77 on:** April 26, 2016, 08:43:52 am »

25 4 7 14

XD9 · « **Reply #78 on:** April 26, 2016, 09:25:18 am »

1. 4. 7. 38

Willvon · « **Reply #79 on:** April 27, 2016, 04:46:09 pm »

1 Chapel
25 Bishop

4 Masquerade
5 Remake

18 Apprentice
7 Junk Dealer

14 Butcher
38 Forge

Seprix · « **Reply #80 on:** April 27, 2016, 07:20:25 pm »

Quote from: aku_chi on April 26, 2016, 08:40:39 am

(VP chips are best chips.)

That would be Doritos. I demand a bracket about chips!

yuma · « **Reply #81 on:** April 28, 2016, 03:33:25 pm »

1 Chapel - 5
25 Bishop - 14

4 Masquerade - 10
5 Remake - 9

18 Apprentice - 13
7 Junk Dealer - 6

14 Butcher - 11
38 Forge - 8

And Chapel goes down in the biggest upset and the biggest margin of victory. Really tight race between Masq and Remake. My vote for Masq put it over the edge. Kinda surprised by the other two results.

Final Four:

25 Bishop
4 Masquerade

18 Apprentice
14 Butcher

singletee · « **Reply #82 on:** April 28, 2016, 03:57:17 pm »

25 Bishop
4 Masquerade

18 Apprentice
14 Butcher

werothegreat · « **Reply #83 on:** April 28, 2016, 04:20:54 pm »

Bishop
Butcher

J Reggie · « **Reply #84 on:** April 28, 2016, 04:23:02 pm »

Bishop
Apprentice

Seprix · « **Reply #85 on:** April 28, 2016, 04:30:39 pm »

25 Bishop
4 Masquerade

18 Apprentice
14 Butcher

Scion · « **Reply #86 on:** April 28, 2016, 04:50:12 pm »

25 Bishop
4 Masquerade

18 Apprentice
14 Butcher

McGarnacle · « **Reply #87 on:** April 28, 2016, 05:09:11 pm »

Quote from: Seprix on April 28, 2016, 04:30:39 pm

25 Bishop
4 Masquerade

18 Apprentice
14 Butcher

ThetaSigma12 · « **Reply #88 on:** April 28, 2016, 05:14:38 pm »

Quote from: werothegreat on April 28, 2016, 04:20:54 pm

Bishop
Butcher

Marcory · « **Reply #89 on:** April 28, 2016, 05:51:44 pm »

Masquerade

Butcher

math · « **Reply #90 on:** April 28, 2016, 06:42:48 pm »

25 Bishop
4 Masquerade

18 Apprentice
14 Butcher

Roadrunner7671 · « **Reply #91 on:** April 28, 2016, 06:44:31 pm »

Quote from: Seprix on April 28, 2016, 04:30:39 pm

25 Bishop
4 Masquerade

18 Apprentice
14 Butcher

Agreed

aku_chi · « **Reply #92 on:** April 28, 2016, 07:31:57 pm »

Poor Remake. I wanted it to go all the way.

25 Bishop
4 Masquerade

18 Apprentice
14 Butcher

Dingan · « **Reply #93 on:** April 28, 2016, 07:54:11 pm »

Just checked this thread now after only reading the OP, was curious if Bishop, my favorite trasher (and second favorite card overall), was still in it. Yeehaw!!

Oh... ahem, um...
Bishop
Butcher

EDIT:
Bishop is just so, so awesome. I love VP chips. But it's like, Goons is just too good and you almost always go for it no matter what. Monument is also good but pretty simple -- if there is low risk of terminal collision, it's almost always worth it, no questions asked. But Bishop, on the other hand, requires much more thinking. Should I try to thin & get VP chips, or should I instead green? How much will my Bishops help my opponent (who potentially is ignoring Bishop altogether and is greening ahead of me)? How much will my opponent's Bishop help me? Should I mill Provinces with it (which decrease my VP, unlike other millers). In Colony games, the VP chips get less significant, but you could argue that the thinning aspect of it gets more powerful, but then it's likewise powerful for your opponent. Etc. Just love the dynamics it introduces.

Oh and how sweet is it to play Bishop after you played a Militia variant, or your opponent discarded a Curse from your Monty? Or to play Bishop and then Masquerade?

Go Bishop!

Willvon · « **Reply #94 on:** April 28, 2016, 08:02:40 pm »

25 Bishop
4 Masquerade

18 Apprentice
14 Butcher

ThetaSigma12 · « **Reply #95 on:** April 28, 2016, 08:09:14 pm »

Quote from: Willvon on April 28, 2016, 08:02:40 pm

25 Bishop
4 Masquerade

18 Apprentice
14 Butcher

Love your card name, I'm sure Dingan agrees!

2.71828..... · « **Reply #96 on:** April 28, 2016, 08:46:02 pm »

Bishop
Butcher

liopoil · « **Reply #97 on:** April 28, 2016, 09:25:24 pm »

bishop
apprentice

brokoli · « **Reply #98 on:** April 29, 2016, 10:31:20 am »

25 Bishop
4 Masquerade

I agree with Dingan about the dynamic Bishop add to the game. Also, Golden Deck is a particularly unique strategy in Dominion, a thing I would have never thought if I didn't read DS. Very clever.
And masquerade... I think I like the card more for the flavour than the actual effect.

18 Apprentice
14 Butcher

Here the choice is harder : Butcher, apart from its ugly art, is a very nice card, interesting Tfb. But Apprentice is one of these very powerful $5 I enjoy the most.

LostPhoenix · « **Reply #99 on:** April 29, 2016, 10:45:11 am »

25 Bishop
4 Masquerade

18 Apprentice
14 Butcher

Feodum16 · « **Reply #100 on:** April 29, 2016, 08:07:38 pm »

4 Masquerade (this was very very close)

18 Apprentice

dedicateddan · « **Reply #101 on:** April 30, 2016, 02:18:41 am »

Masquerade

No opinion on Apprentice/Butcher

XerxesPraelor · « **Reply #102 on:** April 30, 2016, 02:47:45 am »

Bishop

Apprentice

theJester · « **Reply #103 on:** April 30, 2016, 05:38:18 am »

Masquerade

Butcher

Accatitippi · « **Reply #104 on:** April 30, 2016, 06:28:20 am »

Bishop (I love Masq, but Bishop is one of the most interesting and fun cards in Dominion.)
Apprentice

Moneymodel · « **Reply #105 on:** April 30, 2016, 06:10:26 pm »

Bishop

Butcher (by a slim margin)

yuma · « **Reply #106 on:** May 02, 2016, 02:47:41 pm »

25 Bishop 15
4 Masquerade 10

18 Apprentice 13
14 Butcher 11

Both underdogs advance!

Finals:

vs.

McGarnacle · « **Reply #107 on:** May 02, 2016, 02:48:07 pm »

Bishop

werothegreat · « **Reply #108 on:** May 02, 2016, 02:51:42 pm »

Bishop

Dingan · « **Reply #109 on:** May 02, 2016, 02:52:49 pm »

Quote from: werothegreat on May 02, 2016, 02:51:42 pm

Bishop

ThetaSigma12 · « **Reply #110 on:** May 02, 2016, 02:56:46 pm »

Quote from: Dingan on May 02, 2016, 02:52:49 pm

Quote from: werothegreat on May 02, 2016, 02:51:42 pm
Bishop

singletee · « **Reply #111 on:** May 02, 2016, 03:29:14 pm »

Apprentice

Hugovj · « **Reply #112 on:** May 02, 2016, 03:45:00 pm »

Apprentice

MatthewCA · « **Reply #113 on:** May 02, 2016, 03:46:59 pm »

Bishop

brokoli · « **Reply #114 on:** May 02, 2016, 03:55:29 pm »

Apprentice

Scion · « **Reply #115 on:** May 02, 2016, 04:37:13 pm »

Apprentice, obviously

theJester · « **Reply #116 on:** May 02, 2016, 05:14:30 pm »

Apprentice

2.71828..... · « **Reply #117 on:** May 02, 2016, 05:31:05 pm »

Quote from: McGarnacle on May 02, 2016, 02:48:07 pm

Bishop

liopoil · « **Reply #118 on:** May 02, 2016, 05:41:43 pm »

apprentice

math · « **Reply #119 on:** May 02, 2016, 06:28:56 pm »

Apprentice

McGarnacle · « **Reply #120 on:** May 02, 2016, 07:03:50 pm »

Well this is pretty close.

schadd · « **Reply #121 on:** May 02, 2016, 09:39:15 pm »

apprentice

Seprix · « **Reply #122 on:** May 02, 2016, 09:41:04 pm »

apprentice

Chris is me · « **Reply #123 on:** May 02, 2016, 10:21:05 pm »

apprentice

aku_chi · « **Reply #124 on:** May 02, 2016, 11:42:16 pm »

Bishop.

Witherweaver · « **Reply #125 on:** May 02, 2016, 11:52:03 pm »

yuma · « **Reply #126 on:** May 03, 2016, 10:30:58 am »

Current voting:

Bishop 8
Apprentice 10

Bishop got out to an early lead, but Apprentice has mounted a comeback bid and taken a slim lead! I will leave voting open for a few more days to make sure those that aren't on the forum every day get a chance to vote.

McGarnacle · « **Reply #127 on:** May 03, 2016, 10:35:54 am »

Count should be in the finals.

XD9 · « **Reply #128 on:** May 03, 2016, 12:22:38 pm »

Apprentice!

Feodum16 · « **Reply #129 on:** May 04, 2016, 11:31:59 am »

Man this is close; both of those cards are amazing.

But I'll have to go with Apprentice.

Willvon · « **Reply #130 on:** May 04, 2016, 03:33:32 pm »

Bishop

yuma · « **Reply #131 on:** May 05, 2016, 10:58:28 am »

Counting up votes. So a few more minutes for any last second voters.

yuma · « **Reply #132 on:** May 05, 2016, 11:04:40 am »

Bishop 10

Apprentice 12

Apprentice (18) is the winner.

Along its path to victory it defeated:

Wine Merchant (47) 14 to 1.
Stonemason (15) 9 to 4.
Raze (34) 13 to 5.
Junk Dealer (7) 13 to 6.
Butcher (11) 13 to 11.
Bishop (25) 12 to 10.

Thanks to all trasheresque cards for playing! Good luck to all cards and events and unknown types going forward. Will Apprentice be able to survive the new editions of Empires?

Witherweaver · « **Reply #133 on:** May 05, 2016, 11:10:41 am »

Quote from: yuma on May 05, 2016, 11:04:40 am

Along its path to victory it defeated:

Wine Merchant (47) 14 to 1.
Stonemason (15) 9 to 4.
Raze (34) 13 to 5.
Junk Dealer (7) 13 to 6.
Butcher (11) 13 to 11.
Bishop (25) 12 to 10.

Could you say that it... trashed the competition?

Feodum16 · « **Reply #134 on:** May 05, 2016, 11:16:37 am »

Yes. Yes you could.

Scion · « **Reply #135 on:** May 05, 2016, 11:30:36 am »

Quote from: yuma on May 05, 2016, 11:04:40 am

Apprentice (18) is the winner.

VICTORY!

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