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[Seprix]

Feast: It's what's for dinner.

-Is it ever worth going for Feast on an opening over Silver?
-Is this one of the worst Dominion cards of all time?
-Is a scenario where Feast is simply incredible to get? (I'm going to say no)

I can't wait to get out of Base Set.

[Seprix]

Quick note: Procession is a monster with Feast, getting you three gains of $5. Hey, it's something.

[schadd]

other people open it on rebuild boards, i don't. in a strong throney engine without buys it is worth it to gain a feast with feast which is fun

[LastFootnote]

Feast: It's what's for dinner.

You get a +1 just for this joke.

[Dingan]

I only ever open Feast when there are powerful $5 cards and I don't want Silvers and there is no way to get rid of the Silver once you have them.  Minion comes to mind.  But even then, I might be totally wrong.  It's certainly tempting in such scenarios, even if it's bad.

I think I get Feasts on $4 mid- to late-game when I'm going Duchy/Duke.

-Is a scenario where Feast is simply incredible to get?

I have used KC-Feast to gain good $5 card - good $5 card - Feast, and then repeat with the other Feast.  In such a scenario, even paying much greater than $4 for the Feast can be worth it.  Example:
http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=12727.0

But ya, these things are pretty rare.

[JW]

A great (if narrow) use of Feast is to gain the last City from the pile so that you can benefit from the additional empty pile before your opponent does.

[werothegreat]

Feast is what you open with on a board with no s.

[Roadrunner7671]

Silver is what you open with on a board with no s.

FTFY

[ConMan]

Procession and King's Court are amazing with Feast in the presence of lots of desirable $5 cards, especially if the $4 options are otherwise uninspiring and Silver isn't a good thing - so any board that favours a moneyless deck is good. Graverobber is pretty nice. Duke is also good, or any other reason you might want Duchies (such as near end-game).

The other case where Feast is pretty cool is on a board where there are a couple of competing strategies and it's in your interests to wait for your opponent to pick one and then go for the counter. Or similarly, in a 3P game where you're better off going for the strategy that the other players don't pick.

Also, Feast helps to counter Embargo. If there are Embargo tokens on Silver, or on the key engine piece, just buy Feasts and convert them. You may lose tempo against buying the card directly, but if you can't handle the Curses it can be worth the trade-off.

[Marcory]

Plus, you can Summon a Feast. [Runs and hides.]

[J Reggie]

The bots seem to have found the ultimate Feast-based strategy: repeatedly play BoM as Feast to gain another BoM, then finally gain a Duchy when the BoMs are gone.  I think someone posted a game log with this, and I tried it out.  Whenever you have the two in the same kingdom, the bots seems to go for it. 

[werothegreat]

Plus, you can Summon a Feast. [Runs and hides.]

Edge cases:
-You had to Ghost Ship your Watchtower.
-You want a Duchy to miss the reshuffle.
-Someone else played Haunted Woods or Swamp Hag or Embargo, or you played Contraband.
-Your opponent Possessed you, and put your +1 Action token on Feast.

[Marcory]

I was referring to the discussion when Summon came out, in which none other than LastFootnote concluded that Summon-Feast is actually a thing sometimes.

But I am curious as to whether there is an edge case for Prince of Feast, other than that you have an Outpost or Mission turn coming up and getting a Duchy will win you the game then, after you have bought an Estate on your current turn to put you only 2 points behind.

[Davio]

Throning a Feast almost feels like cheating, it's so good.

Opening Feast just to get the $5 is only good in some cases.
Everyone likes to hate on Silver, but it's a pretty decent card and its longevity often wins out over Feast.

I mean, yes you can open Feast/Silver to make sure you get *insert favorite junker/attacker*, but as you're likely to get attacked yourself over the course of the game, having one extra Silver can really help get more of those $5s in the long run.

[E.Honda]

Throning a Feast almost feels like cheating, it's so good.

Opening Feast just to get the $5 is only good in some cases.
Everyone likes to hate on Silver, but it's a pretty decent card and its longevity often wins out over Feast.

I mean, yes you can open Feast/Silver to make sure you get *insert favorite junker/attacker*, but as you're likely to get attacked yourself over the course of the game, having one extra Silver can really help get more of those $5s in the long run.

I remember a game where feast and cultists where on the board (and no other 4s), I considered opening Feast but decided against it and went for Silver/Silver. My opponent got Feast/Silver and that proved to be inferior, since the additional Silver really helped me in conjunction with the cultists

[Max]

I think I've only opened a feast if my opponent has opened a militia/cutpurse, and there's a 5 that I really really want. Silvers opposite militia and cutpurse leave a good chance of hitting 4 repeatedly.

As happened recently in a game I played, I opened double urchin, my opponent did too. His urchins hit turn 3, I went down to 4 coppers. I didn't hit 5 until quite late game, my urchins didn't collide turn 4 (awful luck). If a feast had been available it would have been a useful, not necessarily turn 1 or 2, but turn 5. In order to close the deficit a little.

[Seprix]

Throning a Feast almost feels like cheating, it's so good.

Opening Feast just to get the $5 is only good in some cases.
Everyone likes to hate on Silver, but it's a pretty decent card and its longevity often wins out over Feast.

I mean, yes you can open Feast/Silver to make sure you get *insert favorite junker/attacker*, but as you're likely to get attacked yourself over the course of the game, having one extra Silver can really help get more of those $5s in the long run.

I remember a game where feast and cultists where on the board (and no other 4s), I considered opening Feast but decided against it and went for Silver/Silver. My opponent got Feast/Silver and that proved to be inferior, since the additional Silver really helped me in conjunction with the cultists

Oh, easily. You could have wondrous T3/4 hands of S/C/C/C and C/C/E/E/F but it never works out that way, and hands of S/C/C/C/E and S/C/C/C/E are simply better, even if it is one extra evil Silver card in your deck.

I think I've only opened a feast if my opponent has opened a militia/cutpurse, and there's a 5 that I really really want. Silvers opposite militia and cutpurse leave a good chance of hitting 4 repeatedly.

That's an interesting reason to open Feast, I think I would consider it in that scenario. But again, I could have Silver/Militia in my deck instead of Silver/Feast.

[faust]

Feast is what you open with on a board with no s.

On a board with no $4s, you cannot open Feast.

[Seprix]

Feast is what you open with on a board with no s.

On a board with no $4s, you cannot open Feast.

Don't you have some unlimited knowledge and earthly pleasures to enjoy?

[Max]

That's an interesting reason to open Feast, I think I would consider it in that scenario. But again, I could have Silver/Militia in my deck instead of Silver/Feast.

I think usually you are correct, with the presence of villages, you would certainly be. When there are no villages (or only expensive villages), it's felt like the correct play. I think the necessity of doing this as player 1 is low. You have a 100% chance of an unhindered first hand, and a 50% chance of an unhindered second. In position 2 (or the dreaded multiplayer) you have an 80% chance of one of them being hindered.