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#### werothegreat

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« on: March 21, 2016, 10:31:28 am »
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I think this has been asked before, but not since Adventures has released, I think.

What kingdom do you need (including possibly Events) to get rid of (by trashing or otherwise) every single card in your deck in as few turns as possible?

Note: I don't have a definitive answer for this, just some vague ideas.  I think there are a number of ways you can go about this.
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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2016, 10:41:01 am »
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Since the number of points is within a constant factor of the number of city quarters, in the long run we can get (4 - ε) ↑↑ n points in n turns for any ε > 0.

#### jomini

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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2016, 10:09:54 pm »
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I cannot manage better than 3 turns, I think this might be a hard limit for the current set of options.

T1: Borrow, Baker coin; Inherit(Dc)
T2: E (trash E): \$5, Borrow: Tfair, Mission, Alms (gain Prssn)
T2M: Prssn -> E (trash E, trash E, gain nothing): \$10: buy Tfair x2, Exp x2, Alms (Csmith)
//draw everything
T3:  Prssn -> Csmith (trash Csmith, gain Bom): \$21: Tfair x2, Kc, Mission, Mint(trash 7C)
T3M: PrssnBomKcMint: Kc -> Bom (Dc: trash Prssn, Mint): Bonfire (trash KcBom)

A similar option

T1: Borrow, Baker coin; Inherit(Dc)
T2: E (trash E): \$5, Borrow: Tfair, Mission, Alms (gain Wv)
T2M: Wv -> E (trash self) -> E (trash self): \$11: Summon (Prssn), Exp, Alms(Csmith)
T3: 6CWv: [Prssn] -> Wv (draw CsmithC, trash Wv, gain Bom) -> Csmith: \$14: Mission, Mint, Bom
T3M: Prssn -> Bom (Dc:trash Mint, trash, Csmith, trash Bom, gain nothing): Bonfire (trash Prssn)
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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2016, 05:20:25 pm »
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I can do it by the start of turn 2:
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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2016, 07:56:56 pm »
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I can do it by the start of turn 2:

Well, then I can do it by the end of turn 1!
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Since the number of points is within a constant factor of the number of city quarters, in the long run we can get (4 - ε) ↑↑ n points in n turns for any ε > 0.

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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2016, 08:19:25 pm »
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Well, then I can do it by the end of turn 1!

This is funny because 1! = 1.
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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2016, 10:09:43 pm »
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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2016, 04:36:29 pm »
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I can do it on turn 25 using nothing but Bomb.
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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2016, 06:33:09 pm »
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