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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #2325 on: June 23, 2016, 12:55:18 pm »

Like, I don't think it's a win with mafia thing at all.
OK.

I'm still not certain lynching you isn't the right thing to do.  (Sorry, I know it sucks for you, but as you mentioned, you basically can't win anyway.)
The ONLY scenario in which lynching you is wrong is if there are 3 scum left.

You think it's 2 scum + some other faction.  Maybe that's so, but the final faction can't kill.  That's pretty clear.  So probably we can win with them too.  In which case killing you is definitely right.
It's wrong with two mafia as well.

Going into night with 4-1-1 is better than a less-than-guarranteed 3-player lylo.
Disagree.  I think the 2-1-1 is bad, even though I have a theory that makes it less bad than it looks.  And I think fonti would be correct to kill town, and so would scum.  And I think they'd target in such a way as to nullify my theory.
No, wait.  OK.  If my theory is correct, then lynching mafia is the way to go, and we get fonti to kill another mafia, which it would be in her interest to do (in the presence of my theory).  Then it just relies on fonti/us being correct in who we kill.

- 2-1-1. Like I said, this is OK.
This is where we disagree.
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The best reason to lynch Haddock is the meltdown we get to witness on the wagon runup. I mean, we should totally wagon him every day just for the lulz.

M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #2326 on: June 23, 2016, 12:56:51 pm »

- 2-1-1. Like I said, this is OK.
This is where we disagree.
Like, you must be implying the existence of some PR that saves us in this scenario.  In which case, what's to stop mafia killing that PR?
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The best reason to lynch Haddock is the meltdown we get to witness on the wagon runup. I mean, we should totally wagon him every day just for the lulz.

M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #2327 on: June 23, 2016, 12:57:32 pm »

I'm not so sure that mafia and fontisian will gun for town, and they also might accidentally shoot the same person. 3-1-1 would be very good for us because we can just lynch fontisian then mafia.

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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #2328 on: June 23, 2016, 12:58:14 pm »

- 2-1-1. Like I said, this is OK.
This is where we disagree.
Like, you must be implying the existence of some PR that saves us in this scenario.  In which case, what's to stop mafia killing that PR?
I thought you already had a theory about that?
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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #2329 on: June 23, 2016, 12:59:21 pm »

- 2-1-1. Like I said, this is OK.
This is where we disagree.
Like, you must be implying the existence of some PR that saves us in this scenario.  In which case, what's to stop mafia killing that PR?
I thought you already had a theory about that?
I have a theory about what the PR might be that could save us there. 
But presumably mafia have the same thoughts and might aim to kill that PR.  Even if not, they might kill that PR by accident.
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The best reason to lynch Haddock is the meltdown we get to witness on the wagon runup. I mean, we should totally wagon him every day just for the lulz.

M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #2330 on: June 23, 2016, 01:02:45 pm »

- 2-1-1. Like I said, this is OK.
This is where we disagree.
Like, you must be implying the existence of some PR that saves us in this scenario.  In which case, what's to stop mafia killing that PR?
I thought you already had a theory about that?
I have a theory about what the PR might be that could save us there. 
But presumably mafia have the same thoughts and might aim to kill that PR.  Even if not, they might kill that PR by accident.
In this case I think your theory is wrong, I guess?
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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #2331 on: June 23, 2016, 01:05:41 pm »

I wouldn't mind some advice and arguments on who to shoot.
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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #2332 on: June 23, 2016, 01:15:23 pm »

I wouldn't mind some advice and arguments on who to shoot.

not me.

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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #2333 on: June 23, 2016, 01:26:08 pm »

Oh darn, fontisian's bulletproof really complicates things :(
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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #2334 on: June 23, 2016, 02:04:27 pm »

Well. I.
Ugh.
I want to say a thing but if I do it might be super harmful.
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The best reason to lynch Haddock is the meltdown we get to witness on the wagon runup. I mean, we should totally wagon him every day just for the lulz.

M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #2335 on: June 23, 2016, 02:12:54 pm »

Well. I.
Ugh.
I want to say a thing but if I do it might be super harmful.
unless it relates to your own role, don't say it.

Which reminds me. WW, Haddock, and ss, any of you feel like claiming anything?
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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #2336 on: June 23, 2016, 02:27:05 pm »

I don't think anyone should claim.
If there's a pr out there, even VTs claiming will help scum a LOT by PoE
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The best reason to lynch Haddock is the meltdown we get to witness on the wagon runup. I mean, we should totally wagon him every day just for the lulz.

M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #2337 on: June 23, 2016, 02:36:17 pm »

I don't think anyone should claim.
If there's a pr out there, even VTs claiming will help scum a LOT by PoE
If they are VTs they should not claim, of course. Only if they are a PR with something helpful to say.
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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #2338 on: June 23, 2016, 02:37:14 pm »

I don't think anyone should claim.
If there's a pr out there, even VTs claiming will help scum a LOT by PoE
If they are VTs they should not claim, of course. Only if they are a PR with something helpful to say.
Yes.
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The best reason to lynch Haddock is the meltdown we get to witness on the wagon runup. I mean, we should totally wagon him every day just for the lulz.

M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #2339 on: June 23, 2016, 02:57:01 pm »

I think we should mass claim
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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #2340 on: June 23, 2016, 04:07:34 pm »

I don't.
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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #2341 on: June 23, 2016, 05:48:04 pm »

I wouldn't mind some advice and arguments on who to shoot.

not me.
Yes, thanks, I'll just shoot that not me guy.
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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #2342 on: June 24, 2016, 12:51:04 am »

I think we should mass claim

I think scum wants to mass claim.
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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #2343 on: June 24, 2016, 06:02:49 am »

Mrs Hudson looks at John. "This young man came, the one Sherlock has been working with before. He said he needed to get something for Sherlock, so I let him into his room. Only a couple of minutes later, I heard shouts from the room; someone had broken in, there was fighting. I did not dare to enter. When the noise was gone, I found him like this."

Bill Wiggins lies in the middle of the room, bruised all over, and on his neck the same strangle marks John has seen before. Around him, the room is in complete disarray. Clearly someone has been searching it. But was it Bill, or his killer?

"Has Bill said anything else?" Molly asks.

"He inquired about Sherlock's most recent investigation. Something to do with a cat?"

John is baffled. How did Bill know about this? Did Sherlock inform him? But how? He is under constant surveillance. Or,
maybe...

"We need to go." John says, pulling Molly away.

"What? Where?"

"We need to visit a certain veterinary surgeon."

Lucky for them, the taxi was still waiting. John tells him the adress. The speaker in the radio annouces that Britain has voted to leave the EU.
Great. John thinks. Just when I thought this day couldn't get any worse.

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With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day 4 ends June 29 at 9 am forum time.
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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #2344 on: June 24, 2016, 07:58:48 am »

I think we should mass claim

I think scum wants to mass claim.
So I guess you're with me on this one?
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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #2345 on: June 24, 2016, 10:45:50 am »

I think we should mass claim

I think scum wants to mass claim.
So I guess you're with me on this one?

Good one. No. I have already full claimed, I don't think anyone who has not already should have to
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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #2346 on: June 24, 2016, 10:59:22 am »

Well, since you're here e, can you explain a scenario where all of the following are true?

-You are town
-I am town
-Fontisian is SK
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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #2347 on: June 24, 2016, 11:42:52 am »

Well, since you're here e, can you explain a scenario where all of the following are true?

-You are town
-I am town
-Fontisian is SK

RR and silverspawn are scum.

So right now, scum->town
Conf!scum!fontisian
RR
Liopoil
Silverspawn
Haddock (he is a tricky one)
Witherweaver
Conf!town!e
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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #2348 on: June 24, 2016, 11:44:47 am »

Well, since you're here e, can you explain a scenario where all of the following are true?

-You are town
-I am town
-Fontisian is SK

Maybe I am missing some claim that makes what I am saying impossible, because you sound like this should be a hard thing to do.

To be honest, with everything that has gone down today I think you make the most sense with RR and fontisian, but I could see silverspawn in there
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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #2349 on: June 24, 2016, 11:46:09 am »

I have my full claim. Fontisian can confirm this! So scum and the SK are in cahoots?
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