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[silverspawn]

!!! Awesome Google Spreadsheet Thing !!!

Alright! New Match! Everything is randomized except that I made myself spymaster, since I already saw the full grid.

Red Team:
eHalcyon (spymaster)
gkrieg13

Blue Team:
silverspawn (spymaster)
Eevee


Grid:

ICE CREAM	ROCK	GLOVE	COMIC	HIMALAYAS
KNIGHT	IVORY	MERCURY	TRIANGLE	PRIVATE
DRAGON	GREECE	SHOT	CHEST	LINE
ENGLAND	CHECK	MINT	ALPS	ELECTRIC
AMERICA	EYE	HORSE	CARD	SCALE

Blue goes first.

[gkrieg13]

Codenames V already exists.  I think this should be VI

[silverspawn]

Codenames V already exists.  I think this should be VI

oups, you're right. It now is.

[silverspawn]

Mine: 2

[Eevee]

Mint

[silverspawn]

Mint is blue.

[Eevee]

card

[silverspawn]

Card is neutral.

Updated Grid:

ICE CREAM	ROCK	GLOVE	COMIC	HIMALAYAS
KNIGHT	IVORY	MERCURY	TRIANGLE	PRIVATE
DRAGON	GREECE	SHOT	CHEST	LINE
ENGLAND	CHECK	MINT	ALPS	ELECTRIC
AMERICA	EYE	HORSE	CARD	SCALE

It is Red's Turn.

[eHalcyon]

Country: 3

[gkrieg13]

England

[eHalcyon]

England

That's red.

[gkrieg13]

AMERICA

[eHalcyon]

AMERICA

Also red.  Of course you had to POST IT LIKE THIS.

[gkrieg13]

haha

GrEeCe

[silverspawn]

Greece is also red.

[eHalcyon]

Updated Grid:

ICE CREAM	ROCK	GLOVE	COMIC	HIMALAYAS
KNIGHT	IVORY	MERCURY	TRIANGLE	PRIVATE
DRAGON	GREECE	SHOT	CHEST	LINE
ENGLAND	CHECK	MINT	ALPS	ELECTRIC
AMERICA	EYE	HORSE	CARD	SCALE

It is Blue's Turn.

I mean, we have one more guess, but I think it's safe to assume that gkrieg won't use it since there's no previous info to base it on.

[silverspawn]

Yeah, I didn't want to take my turn because of that chance. But if you take the responsibility...

Danger: 3

[gkrieg13]

but but but but...  jk I would've passed

[Eevee]

dragon

[Kuildeous]

Mine: 2

Mint

Only on f.ds does that clue make any sense.

[eHalcyon]

Mine: 2

Mint

Only on f.ds does that clue make any sense.

Well, you can both mine and mint various metals.  They are both thematically connected that way, which is why both Dominion cards do stuff with Treasure.




BTW, I almost feel bad that we had such a simple and obviously clue for 3.  Almost.

[silverspawn]

BTW, I almost feel bad that we had such a simple and obviously clue for 3.  Almost.

Yeah that was painful

[silverspawn]

By the way, you can answer for me @eHalcyon

Dragon is Blue.

[Eevee]

mercury

[eHalcyon]

@silverspawn, ah right, sorry, I missed the earlier response.

@Eevee, I am afraid that Mercury is red.  So that's Red's turn now, I think...

Updated Grid:

ICE CREAM	ROCK	GLOVE	COMIC	HIMALAYAS
KNIGHT	IVORY	MERCURY	TRIANGLE	PRIVATE
DRAGON	GREECE	SHOT	CHEST	LINE
ENGLAND	CHECK	MINT	ALPS	ELECTRIC
AMERICA	EYE	HORSE	CARD	SCALE

Cow: 2

[eHalcyon]

Aside: how strict are we being on rules?  The Codenames rules includes expert clue rules (where you can give "0" and "unlimited" as numbers), rules about proper names that are technically more than one word, rules about rhyming clues...  And we'll play more than one round, right?

Edit: In case anybody misses it, my clue is on the previous page (if you are using the default number of posts per page).

[Eevee]

Aside: how strict are we being on rules?  The Codenames rules includes expert clue rules (where you can give "0" and "unlimited" as numbers), rules about proper names that are technically more than one word, rules about rhyming clues...  And we'll play more than one round, right?

Edit: In case anybody misses it, my clue is on the previous page (if you are using the default number of posts per page).

Ivote yes for multiple games, unlimited and 0 as guesses, I'm fine with proper names. What does the rule say about rhyming?

@silverspawn
Sorry!

[eHalcyon]

If your group wants, you can rule to allow clues with no connection other than rhyming.  You can't specify that it is a rhyming clue, of course.

[silverspawn]

@silverspawn
Sorry!

I think that's mostly my fault 

I also read the rules - yeah, they say rhyming is okay, other than that it has to about the meaning of the word, not the position, and the number must not give a clue.

[gkrieg13]

ice cream

I say yes to everything but rhyming. If you have a question about a specific clue just PM the other soy master

[Watno]

What's a soy master?

[eHalcyon]

ice cream

I say yes to everything but rhyming. If you have a question about a specific clue just PM the other soy master

Ice Cream is red.

@Watno, spy master.

[gkrieg13]

What's a soy master?

You have much to learn before you can become a soy master.

horse

[eHalcyon]

What's a soy master?

You have much to learn before you can become a soy master.

horse

Also red.

gkrieg, do you pass or use your extra guess?

[gkrieg13]

pass

[silverspawn]

okay, jewelry: unlimited

[gkrieg13]

you might want to post the board again

[eHalcyon]

So, unlimited means you can have as many guesses as you want but you don't know how many the new clue applies to.

I'm on mobile so I can't really edit.  Anybody can do it though, since it's public.

[silverspawn]

Right, here.

Ugh it's so red 

ICE CREAM	ROCK	GLOVE	COMIC	HIMALAYAS
KNIGHT	IVORY	MERCURY	TRIANGLE	PRIVATE
DRAGON	GREECE	SHOT	CHEST	LINE
ENGLAND	CHECK	MINT	ALPS	ELECTRIC
AMERICA	EYE	HORSE	CARD	SCALE

[Eevee]

rock

im having a birthday party today, it's 9:48pm, I think I'll be away from the action for 12-14 hours. hopefully.

[eHalcyon]

Rock is blue

[ipofanes]

Mine: 2

Mint

Only on f.ds does that clue make any sense.

This might be viewed as illegal by some gaming groups, as the association is on merit of spelling (more precisely, on merit that they are mistaken for each other because of spelling).

[eHalcyon]

Mine: 2

Mint

Only on f.ds does that clue make any sense.

This might be viewed as illegal by some gaming groups, as the association is on merit of spelling (more precisely, on merit that they are mistaken for each other because of spelling).

They are associated in meaning both in Dominion (actions that trash and gain treasures) and outside of Dominion too (verbs that apply to precious metals), as I explained above.  It's not only an association by spelling.  In any case, the rulebook says that it is the opposing spy master's call, and I'm not going to begrudge it.

[Eevee]

ivory

[eHalcyon]

ivory

Is Blue.

[Eevee]

chest

[silverspawn]

Chest is Blue.

[Eevee]

scale

[silverspawn]

Scale is neutral.

Good job, though.

ICE CREAM	ROCK	GLOVE	COMIC	HIMALAYAS
KNIGHT	IVORY	MERCURY	TRIANGLE	PRIVATE
DRAGON	GREECE	SHOT	CHEST	LINE
ENGLAND	CHECK	MINT	ALPS	ELECTRIC
AMERICA	EYE	HORSE	CARD	SCALE

[eHalcyon]

Clothes: 2

[gkrieg13]

GLOVE

[silverspawn]

is red

[gkrieg13]

It's gotta be LINE

[silverspawn]

it is.

[gkrieg13]

it is.

Yay!

[silverspawn]

Alright. Red wins flawlessly!

Full Grid:

ICE CREAM	ROCK	GLOVE	COMIC	HIMALAYAS
KNIGHT	IVORY	MERCURY	TRIANGLE	PRIVATE
DRAGON	GREECE	SHOT	CHEST	LINE
ENGLAND	CHECK	MINT	ALPS	ELECTRIC
AMERICA	EYE	HORSE	CARD	SCALE

[silverspawn]

Our best shot was you picking alps for Cow. I would have done that over Icecream.

I intended shot for dangerous... looks like that was too far fetched. Also maaaybe Himalayas.

[silverspawn]

I would play another round, if you three want. Maybe with switched spymasters - someone else would have to randomize the grid then. It's almost no work.

[eHalcyon]

@silverspawn, as blue, I think my first clue would have been Treasure: 4 going for Dragon, Ivory, Mint and Chest.

Before Mercury got flipped, I was going to give Sagittarius: 2 for Horse and Mercury, going from the astrology angle.

I maybe could have gone Cow: 3 for Glove as well, but I was playing it conservatively.  Good thing too, because I didn't even think of the Alps connection until a second after I posted the clue.

Good guessing out there, gkrieg!

I'd play again.  You guys had it rough with the easy 3 countries for us and the Himalayas vs. Alps sitting there, though it didn't come into play.

[silverspawn]

I actually did consider treasure for my second pick, and went for jewelry instead. I thought ivory would be too much of a stretch and I didn't even make a connection to Mint.

but-- yeah, I agree that it would've been better.

[gkrieg13]

Our best shot was you picking alps for Cow. I would have done that over Icecream.

I intended shot for dangerous... looks like that was too far fetched. Also maaaybe Himalayas.

That must be a German/European? thing. I would never associate alps and cow

I'd be up for another round

[Eevee]

rematch!

[silverspawn]

Our best shot was you picking alps for Cow. I would have done that over Icecream.

I intended shot for dangerous... looks like that was too far fetched. Also maaaybe Himalayas.

That must be a German/European? thing. I would never associate alps and cow

I'd be up for another round

It's also a bit of a family thing, since we went to alps like every year since the beginning of time and always saw cows.

[gkrieg13]

It's also a bit of a family thing, since we went to alps like every year since the beginning of time and always saw cows.

Do you have pictures of cows from the alps on your milk?

[silverspawn]

It's also a bit of a family thing, since we went to alps like every year since the beginning of time and always saw cows.

Do you have pictures of cows from the alps on your milk?

yes

[gkrieg13]

It's also a bit of a family thing, since we went to alps like every year since the beginning of time and always saw cows.

Do you have pictures of cows from the alps on your milk?

yes

That might influence it

[eHalcyon]

rematch!

You or gkrieg will have to randomize if we are switching spymasters.  Unless we don't switch both?

[Eevee]

Is there some online tool to randomizing? I don't know how to create pretty matrixes like that.

[silverspawn]

Yes! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TXkY5snm_uhZQNYvGqwrLSHjuHARIZouOP5pBEWRMXA/edit#gid=0

[Eevee]

PITCH	PISTOL	THIEF	DOCTOR	WELL
FILE	CHOCOLATE	BRAZIL	STAR	STICK
SCALE	TELESCOPE	ATLANTIS	FALL	SETTLE
DOG	LEAD	GLOVE	SHIP	TRIANGLE
BOW	DISEASE	CREAM	SATELLITE	GAME

Red goes first!

[gkrieg13]

fingerprint: 2

[ipofanes]

It's also a bit of a family thing, since we went to alps like every year since the beginning of time and always saw cows.

Do you have pictures of cows from the alps on your milk?

We have pictures of purple cows in front of alpine panorama on our chocolate.

As I heard, the background was taken in the New Zealand Alps.

[eHalcyon]

Thief

[Eevee]

Thief is red

[eHalcyon]

Um, Glove?

If this is right, I won't be taking the extra guess. It'll be Blue's turn either way.

[gkrieg13]

GLOVE is RED

PITCH	PISTOL	THIEF	DOCTOR	WELL
FILE	CHOCOLATE	BRAZIL	STAR	STICK
SCALE	TELESCOPE	ATLANTIS	FALL	SETTLE
DOG	LEAD	GLOVE	SHIP	TRIANGLE
BOW	DISEASE	CREAM	SATELLITE	GAME

BLUE team is up

[Eevee]

Meteor: 4

[silverspawn]

Telescope

[Eevee]

telescope is blue

[silverspawn]

Fall

[Eevee]

fall is blue

[silverspawn]

Star

[Eevee]

star is blue

[silverspawn]

okay, Satellite and pass and I'm going to bed.

[Eevee]

satellite is blue, red's turn

[Eevee]

Here is the grid.

PITCH	PISTOL	THIEF	DOCTOR	WELL
FILE	CHOCOLATE	BRAZIL	STAR	STICK
SCALE	TELESCOPE	ATLANTIS	FALL	SETTLE
DOG	LEAD	GLOVE	SHIP	TRIANGLE
BOW	DISEASE	CREAM	SATELLITE	GAME

RED team is up

[gkrieg13]

Chapada Diamantina: 2

[eHalcyon]

Brazil

[gkrieg13]

BRAZIL is RED

[eHalcyon]

Man, I don't know.  There are some things that I could maybe guess based on part of the clue, but that's not really in the spirit of Codenames.  So I'm trying to think why you are naming this region in particular.  I would just pass, but we're already behind as it is.  So, uh...

Settle?

[gkrieg13]

settle is BLUE  sorry

[eHalcyon]

It's like this game is the flip of the first one.

[gkrieg13]

It's like this game is the flip of the first one.

lol

[Eevee]

Watson: 3

[Eevee]

PITCH	PISTOL	THIEF	DOCTOR	WELL
FILE	CHOCOLATE	BRAZIL	STAR	STICK
SCALE	TELESCOPE	ATLANTIS	FALL	SETTLE
DOG	LEAD	GLOVE	SHIP	TRIANGLE
BOW	DISEASE	CREAM	SATELLITE	GAME

[silverspawn]

Doctor

[Eevee]

doctor is blue

[silverspawn]

okay - apologies, but pass

[Eevee]

PITCH	PISTOL	THIEF	DOCTOR	WELL
FILE	CHOCOLATE	BRAZIL	STAR	STICK
SCALE	TELESCOPE	ATLANTIS	FALL	SETTLE
DOG	LEAD	GLOVE	SHIP	TRIANGLE
BOW	DISEASE	CREAM	SATELLITE	GAME

RED team is up

[gkrieg13]

THREE: 2

[eHalcyon]

Triangle

[gkrieg13]

TRIANGLE is RED

[eHalcyon]

Pitch

[gkrieg13]

PITCH is NEUTRAL

[eHalcyon]

I am going to need an explanation when this is over.

[Eevee]

PITCH	PISTOL	THIEF	DOCTOR	WELL
FILE	CHOCOLATE	BRAZIL	STAR	STICK
SCALE	TELESCOPE	ATLANTIS	FALL	SETTLE
DOG	LEAD	GLOVE	SHIP	TRIANGLE
BOW	DISEASE	CREAM	SATELLITE	GAME

Shot: 2

[silverspawn]

well, Pistol

[gkrieg13]

PISTOL is BLUE

[silverspawn]

Bow

[gkrieg13]

BOW is NEUTRAL

[gkrieg13]

PITCH	PISTOL	THIEF	DOCTOR	WELL
FILE	CHOCOLATE	BRAZIL	STAR	STICK
SCALE	TELESCOPE	ATLANTIS	FALL	SETTLE
DOG	LEAD	GLOVE	SHIP	TRIANGLE
BOW	DISEASE	CREAM	SATELLITE	GAME

[gkrieg13]

CLUE: 4

[eHalcyon]

Well that is ambitious. 

Lead

[gkrieg13]

LEAD is RED

[eHalcyon]

LEAD is RED

Well that's good.  I realized after I guessed that it could have been the last Blue (Lead Shot).  I feel so confused now haha.  Eevee previously also gave Watson: 3.  Pistol was probably the second one for that clue, but I'm still not sure of the third.  And my best guesses for that also sort of overlap with Clue.

Let's try Game, since Clue is a game.  But also, the game is afoot...

[Eevee]

Game is red

[eHalcyon]

OK... Stick for the candlestick?

[Eevee]

stick is red.

[eHalcyon]

PITCH	PISTOL	THIEF	DOCTOR	WELL
FILE	CHOCOLATE	BRAZIL	STAR	STICK
SCALE	TELESCOPE	ATLANTIS	FALL	SETTLE
DOG	LEAD	GLOVE	SHIP	TRIANGLE
BOW	DISEASE	CREAM	SATELLITE	GAME

So blue is 1 away from a win, and it's pretty easy to give a clue for just one word.  I am totally unsure but I think I need to press on and try to finish it, for better or worse, which will include the extra guess if I get this one right...

File? 

[Eevee]

file is red.

[eHalcyon]

Atlantis?

[gkrieg13]

ATLANTIS is NEUTRAL  so close

[eHalcyon]

ATLANTIS is NEUTRAL  so close

Guessed it because Chapada Diamantina is apparently known as "Brazil's Lost World".   

My next guess would be Well, but we really shouldn't get there since Eevee only needs to give a clue for 1.

[Eevee]

Ebola: 1

[silverspawn]

okay, disaease

[gkrieg13]

DISEASE is PURPLE






jk.  it's BLUE.  You guys win

[gkrieg13]

The last one for us was WELL.  We almost made it on that last turn!

[silverspawn]

DISEASE is PURPLE

... I bought this for a moment

[silverspawn]

Amazing clues! And I almost botched it.

Thing is that I don't know anything about Watson, and doing some research I found things indicating Bow, plus shot, and I chose it over disease.

[eHalcyon]

So what was Chapada Diamantina for?  And was Shot supposed to point to Disease?

I guessed Pitch for Three because it's 3 strikes and you're out.

[gkrieg13]

So what was Chapada Diamantina for?  And was Shot supposed to point to Disease?

I guessed Pitch for Three because it's 3 strikes and you're out.

Ya I wanted to use for the clue so you would guess well, but Eevee said no (rightly so).  So I went with three hoping that would give you well.

I searched brazil well online and found Chapada Diamantina.  There is a big attraction called enchanted well. 

I had awful clues, and pistol was there blocking clue from being a clue.

[eHalcyon]

Yeah, I wasn't sure if I should google anything because I wouldn't be doing that while playing IRL.  I ended up doing a cursory search for just the place name, but nothing too specific.

What was the assassin card?  In your place, I think I may have given "Dominion: 3" as my first clue... unless the assassin was Ship.

[gkrieg13]

Yeah, I wasn't sure if I should google anything because I wouldn't be doing that while playing IRL.  I ended up doing a cursory search for just the place name, but nothing too specific.

What was the assassin card?  In your place, I think I may have given "Dominion: 3" as my first clue... unless the assassin was Ship.

I need an emoji of putting a finger on your nose. That was the assassin. Also doctor was theirs

[eHalcyon]

Yeah, I wasn't sure if I should google anything because I wouldn't be doing that while playing IRL.  I ended up doing a cursory search for just the place name, but nothing too specific.

What was the assassin card?  In your place, I think I may have given "Dominion: 3" as my first clue... unless the assassin was Ship.

I need an emoji of putting a finger on your nose. That was the assassin. Also doctor was theirs

Oops!  Forgot about Doctor.  Yeah, that was a tough start.  Clue as a clue was hilarious though.  Out of curiosity, did you mean "Lead" as in "I have a lead" or as in the Lead Pipe from the game?  I thought both, which is why I picked that one first.

[gkrieg13]

Yeah, I wasn't sure if I should google anything because I wouldn't be doing that while playing IRL.  I ended up doing a cursory search for just the place name, but nothing too specific.

What was the assassin card?  In your place, I think I may have given "Dominion: 3" as my first clue... unless the assassin was Ship.

I need an emoji of putting a finger on your nose. That was the assassin. Also doctor was theirs

Oops!  Forgot about Doctor.  Yeah, that was a tough start.  Clue as a clue was hilarious though.  Out of curiosity, did you mean "Lead" as in "I have a lead" or as in the Lead Pipe from the game?  I thought both, which is why I picked that one first.

Lead pipe was my thought

[eHalcyon]

Shall we do another?

[gkrieg13]

Yep

[Eevee]

Amazing clues! And I almost botched it.

Thing is that I don't know anything about Watson, and doing some research I found things indicating Bow, plus shot, and I chose it over disease.

Watson as ex-military often carried a pistol in their adventures, and as a doctor he treated diseases... I knew it was a long shot but I didn't think you'd go to ship anyways, and after they took our hardest word (settle) out, the prospect of winning in two turns felt too good to pass up, even if it wasn't the safest win after the excellent start.

I vote for new games until someone indicates they don't want anymore, this is really fun.

[silverspawn]

new game!!

[Eevee]

ehalcyon or silverspawn make the grid!

[silverspawn]

since eH technically hasn't confirmed that he's playing again, I'll let him do it once he comes back.

[eHalcyon]

Did you guys also want to switch up spymaster combinations?

But for this time maybe we can just do the same pairs with different starting colour.  I'll roll one for silverspawn and myself with Red start.

[eHalcyon]

Red goes first

ENGINE	FLY	SPELL	DEATH	CLIFF
PITCH	WIND	POOL	MAIL	CELL
SOUND	FIGHTER	MILK	PASS	TRAIN
LONDON	PLASTIC	WEB	SPINE	DISEASE
MICROSCOPE	TAIL	SHOE	LEPRECHAUN	FARM

Give me a few minutes...

[eHalcyon]

Rumble: 4

[gkrieg13]

TRAIN?

[eHalcyon]

TRAIN?

is Red!

[gkrieg13]

wind

[eHalcyon]

wind

Neutral

[silverspawn]

ENGINE	FLY	SPELL	DEATH	CLIFF
PITCH	WIND	POOL	MAIL	CELL
SOUND	FIGHTER	MILK	PASS	TRAIN
LONDON	PLASTIC	WEB	SPINE	DISEASE
MICROSCOPE	TAIL	SHOE	LEPRECHAUN	FARM

Fall: 3

[Eevee]

cliff

[silverspawn]

is Blue.

[Eevee]

fly

[silverspawn]

is Blue.

[Eevee]

london

[eHalcyon]

london

Is also blue.  That's 3, so you have one more guess if you want it.

[eHalcyon]

Updated grid:

ENGINE	FLY	SPELL	DEATH	CLIFF
PITCH	WIND	POOL	MAIL	CELL
SOUND	FIGHTER	MILK	PASS	TRAIN
LONDON	PLASTIC	WEB	SPINE	DISEASE
MICROSCOPE	TAIL	SHOE	LEPRECHAUN	FARM

I like it with the color for neutral flips instead of bolding stuff.  I hope you don't mind the switch, silverspawn.

[Eevee]

I'll pass.

[eHalcyon]

Biofuel: 3

[silverspawn]

I like it with the color for neutral flips instead of bolding stuff.  I hope you don't mind the switch, silverspawn.

Well, it basically becomes invisible, which is why I bolded instead. Maybe it's because I have a different brightness, if it's not for you.

You could make it green. Or pink!

[eHalcyon]

I like it with the color for neutral flips instead of bolding stuff.  I hope you don't mind the switch, silverspawn.

Well, it basically becomes invisible, which is why I bolded instead. Maybe it's because I have a different brightness, if it's not for you.

You could make it green. Or pink!

But what's wrong with it being invisible?  In the real life game, the words are just covered up entirely, and you can always highlight if you want to see it.  I guess it could be yellow instead...

ENGINE	FLY	SPELL	DEATH	CLIFF
PITCH	WIND	POOL	MAIL	CELL
SOUND	FIGHTER	MILK	PASS	TRAIN
LONDON	PLASTIC	WEB	SPINE	DISEASE
MICROSCOPE	TAIL	SHOE	LEPRECHAUN	FARM

[silverspawn]

But what's wrong with it being invisible?

It distorts the pattern

[Jack Rudd]

Please do not make it yellow. That colour is really hard on the eyes.

[gkrieg13]

Engine

[eHalcyon]

Engine

Is red.

ENGINE	FLY	SPELL	DEATH	CLIFF
PITCH	WIND	POOL	MAIL	CELL
SOUND	FIGHTER	MILK	PASS	TRAIN
LONDON	PLASTIC	WEB	SPINE	DISEASE
MICROSCOPE	TAIL	SHOE	LEPRECHAUN	FARM

I guess pink works pretty well for the neutral words then?  It is low key but visible.

[gkrieg13]

SOUND

[eHalcyon]

SOUND

Is red. 

[gkrieg13]

CELL

[eHalcyon]

CELL

Is red.

You've got one more guess if you want it.

[gkrieg13]

MICROSCOPE

[eHalcyon]

MICROSCOPE

Neutral, unfortunately.

ENGINE	FLY	SPELL	DEATH	CLIFF
PITCH	WIND	POOL	MAIL	CELL
SOUND	FIGHTER	MILK	PASS	TRAIN
LONDON	PLASTIC	WEB	SPINE	DISEASE
MICROSCOPE	TAIL	SHOE	LEPRECHAUN	FARM

Blue's turn!

[silverspawn]

Nike: 2

[gkrieg13]

Wow I am struggling today

[Eevee]

shoe

[silverspawn]

shoe

is blue

[Eevee]

farm

[silverspawn]

farm

is red 

[silverspawn]

ENGINE	FLY	SPELL	DEATH	CLIFF
PITCH	WIND	POOL	MAIL	CELL
SOUND	FIGHTER	MILK	PASS	TRAIN
LONDON	PLASTIC	WEB	SPINE	DISEASE
MICROSCOPE	TAIL	SHOE	LEPRECHAUN	FARM

Red's Turn.

[gkrieg13]

So I'm thinking RUMBLE was the clue for SOUND, ENGINE, TRAIN, and maybe PITCH?

BIOFUEL was the clue for ENGINE, CELL, and FARM?

So I'll probably guess PITCH as my extra guess this time.  I guess it could've been FIGHTER, like let's get ready to rumble.

[gkrieg13]

I guess MILK is also a BIOFUEL of sorts?

[eHalcyon]

Let's try a proper noun... Madam Pomfrey: 2

[silverspawn]

Let's try a proper noun... Madam Pomfrey: 2

Isn't that illegal though? The rules say one word.

I was also debating a 2 word clue that's just one thing, and didn't go with it.

[eHalcyon]

We agreed to allow proper nouns though, which includes multiple word proper nouns.  It's in the rulebook!  Maybe we should have clarified that better, but  gkrieg did in the last game too (the Brazilian region name) and nobody complained.

The key thing is that the word as a whole must be considered.  For example, I could not use "Harry Potter: 2" as a clue for Truman and Clay.

[Eevee]

I'm changing my mind about this, just because it seems mostly redundant. You could have just said "Pomfrey" here, just as "Watson" worked as a clue for me well enough, there was no need for John Watson or Mr Watson.

I don't really care either way, but I think I'll stick to shortening my multiple word proper nouns. Giving clues is easy enough when playing over the internet anyways.

[silverspawn]

You're right, it is in the rules. I withdraw my point.

[eHalcyon]

The rulebook gives the following examples:

George vs. George Washington
George vs. George W. Bush (note that shortening to just Bush has a big difference in meaning)
The Three Musketeers
New York

Do you want to remove multiple word clues entirely? Remove them mostly, but with some exceptions (like place names)?  I don't mind either way; I was just following the precedent we had set.  FWIW, Eevee is right that it's redundant in this case.

[silverspawn]

I'd say persons and places, but otherwise one word?

Or, what about movie titles and such?

[gkrieg13]

SPELL

[eHalcyon]

SPELL

Is red.



Re: specific rules for proper nouns, I'm OK with anything.  I'd prefer place names to be allowed (even though I probably wouldn't use them much because I'm bad at geography).  If it's easier, we could restrict everything else in future games?

[gkrieg13]

DISEASE

[silverspawn]

is red

[gkrieg13]

PITCH

[silverspawn]

Is neutral.

ENGINE	FLY	SPELL	DEATH	CLIFF
PITCH	WIND	POOL	MAIL	CELL
SOUND	FIGHTER	MILK	PASS	TRAIN
LONDON	PLASTIC	WEB	SPINE	DISEASE
MICROSCOPE	TAIL	SHOE	LEPRECHAUN	FARM

[silverspawn]

Dinosaur: 3

[Eevee]

death

[eHalcyon]

death

Is Blue.

[Eevee]

fighter

[silverspawn]

 

Is red.

[silverspawn]

ENGINE	FLY	SPELL	DEATH	CLIFF
PITCH	WIND	POOL	MAIL	CELL
SOUND	FIGHTER	MILK	PASS	TRAIN
LONDON	PLASTIC	WEB	SPINE	DISEASE
MICROSCOPE	TAIL	SHOE	LEPRECHAUN	FARM

Red's Turn.

[Eevee]

d'oh

[eHalcyon]

I thought Dinosaur was a great clue.  I was thinking of something along similar lines for Blue, though somewhat more specific.

Uhh...

Figurine: 1

[gkrieg13]

Plastic?

[silverspawn]

is red!

[gkrieg13]

Yay!  Man my guessing was off on that one.  But we made it through!

[eHalcyon]

Full grid:

ENGINE	FLY	SPELL	DEATH	CLIFF
PITCH	WIND	POOL	MAIL	CELL
SOUND	FIGHTER	MILK	PASS	TRAIN
LONDON	PLASTIC	WEB	SPINE	DISEASE
MICROSCOPE	TAIL	SHOE	LEPRECHAUN	FARM

Rumble was for Fighter.  I knew that Pitch would be a possible catch, but I didn't think Wind would be.

silverspawn and I were both confused that Eevee picked London for Fall.  The intended answer was Death.  I don't know about silverspawn, but I'm still confused.  My best guess is either you think London is particularly beautiful in the Fall, or Fall > Skyfall > James Bond > British > London.  Or maybe you had just gotten Fly and were thinking of the iconic Heathrow Airport?

My specific clue idea for blue was Thagomizer, the name for dinosaur tail spikes.

I had so many ideas that just had some bad overlaps.  Some examples:

Surgery: 2 for Plastic and Disease, but then Death and Spine could be catches for that.
League of Legends: 3 (or MOBA or DOTA or something) for Fighter, Spell and Farm, but then Web and Death seems like a major ones for that.
Cleric: 3 (or maybe Paladin) for Fighter, Spell, maybe Disease.  But the magical aspect could lead to Leprechaun.  I ended up landing on Madame Pomfrey.
Electric: 3 for Engine, Cell and Farm, but I thought that might be a tough connection for Farm and went with Biofuel, which didn't work anyway.

Good game!  That had some great back and forth there.

[Eevee]

Blue goes first

CLOUD	COURT	VET	CHAIR	PILOT
ANGEL	DINOSAUR	ROCK	CHANGE	MOON
LEPRECHAUN	THUMB	ALPS	STRIKE	IRON
FAIR	DOCTOR	CZECH	HOOD	COOK
STADIUM	PAPER	BERRY	CROWN	CHICK

[Eevee]

There is a movie called London Has Fallen that just came out, that's why I guessed fall for London.

[gkrieg13]

You are blue right?

[Eevee]

prescription: 2

[silverspawn]

Doctor

[Eevee]

doctor is blue

[silverspawn]

Court and pass

[Eevee]

court is red :S

[silverspawn]

... ?

[eHalcyon]

I don't get the Court connection, but I see a few other connections that seem plausible to me...

(Edit: this, I guess?)

So, before it comes up again, what are we saying about proper nouns with multiple words?  Or does nobody care one way or the other?

[gkrieg13]

animal:4

[silverspawn]

I don't get the Court connection, but I see a few other connections that seem plausible to me...

(Edit: this, I guess?)

So, before it comes up again, what are we saying about proper nouns with multiple words?  Or does nobody care one way or the other?

they're allowed I think

[eHalcyon]

animal:4

Dinosaur

[gkrieg13]

DINOSAUR is RED

[silverspawn]

I don't get the Court connection, but I see a few other connections that seem plausible to me...

(Edit: this, I guess?)

should probably answer that after the game

[eHalcyon]

I don't get the Court connection, but I see a few other connections that seem plausible to me...

(Edit: this, I guess?)

should probably answer that after the game

I think it's OK for us to talk as long as the spy masters are staying out of it and we're not saying stuff like, "I associate X with Y, so keep that in mind when you make clues".

But err on the side of caution, I guess.

Next guess: Vet

[silverspawn]

oh right, you're not a spymaster.

well, I'm not a native, I only know the word prescription for a few weeks, because sanders keeps using it. so-- I looked it up, and it immediately gave me the meaning in law and the one in medicine, so I assumed they're used equally.

although... I thought the alternative was... Vet? 

[Eevee]

vet is red..

[eHalcyon]

oh right, you're not a spymaster.

well, I'm not a native, I only know the word prescription for a few weeks, because sanders keeps using it. so-- I looked it up, and it immediately gave me the meaning in law and the one in medicine, so I assumed they're used equally.

although... I thought the alternative was... Vet? 

I think the legal explanation totally works, it's just one that I'm unfamiliar with.  Vet was one of the more plausible ones to me, but it's also a strong animal association.  I think I know which one Eevee intended now.



Next guess: Chick

And if it's red, I'll still pass.  I could guess at #4, but I'm not as sure as I am with these 3.

[gkrieg13]

CHICK is RED

[Eevee]

item: unlimited

sorry, I couldn't think of anything to connect these words at any point.

[silverspawn]

CLOUD	COURT	VET	CHAIR	PILOT
ANGEL	DINOSAUR	ROCK	CHANGE	MOON
LEPRECHAUN	THUMB	ALPS	STRIKE	IRON
FAIR	DOCTOR	CZECH	HOOD	COOK
STADIUM	PAPER	BERRY	CROWN	CHICK

[silverspawn]

paper

[Eevee]

paper is blue

[silverspawn]

Berry

[Eevee]

And that's a fitting end. 


Blue goes first

CLOUD	COURT	VET	CHAIR	PILOT
ANGEL	DINOSAUR	ROCK	CHANGE	MOON
LEPRECHAUN	THUMB	ALPS	STRIKE	IRON
FAIR	DOCTOR	CZECH	HOOD	COOK
STADIUM	PAPER	BERRY	CROWN	CHICK

[eHalcyon]

Aw.

So I think it was a bit early to drop an Unlimited clue.  silverspawn could have easily picked up Paper as the extra guess on a later clue, and "item" was a bit generic.

Also, maybe "Cash" could work for Paper and Change?  "Throne" for Crown and Chair?  But yeah, that blue set looks especially tough.  So far I've been aiming for at least 3 on every first clue, but I don't see any for that here...

For gkrieg's Animal clue, I was torn between Fair (like, a state fair with animals) and Cook.

[gkrieg13]

It was meant to be cook. 

Next I was thinking of doing Europe, then maybe Chef for the last clue.

[Eevee]

Aw.

So I think it was a bit early to drop an Unlimited clue.  silverspawn could have easily picked up Paper as the extra guess on a later clue, and "item" was a bit generic.

Also, maybe "Cash" could work for Paper and Change?  "Throne" for Crown and Chair?  But yeah, that blue set looks especially tough.  So far I've been aiming for at least 3 on every first clue, but I don't see any for that here...

For gkrieg's Animal clue, I was torn between Fair (like, a state fair with animals) and Cook.

Good ideas! I think I was even thinking about throne at some point, don't remember why I decided against it. It's pretty bleak though. Someone randomize the next, and keep in mind it's our turn to win.

[silverspawn]

When I hear 'item' i mostly think of games; a berry seems like a super common consumable.

[Eevee]

I didn't think of that connection.

[silverspawn]

What did you think about?

[silverspawn]

I mean, which words did you intend

[Eevee]

Doctor and paper for prescription, I thought item could bring chair, crown. I don't know, sort of gave up when we were doing so badly and I just couldn't think of anything. My bad!

[silverspawn]

TAP	LONDON	MINT	SNOW	MILLIONAIRE
STOCK	CARD	PRINCESS	CODE	POOL
TOWER	CENTAUR	VAN	GERMANY	BANK
INDIA	HEAD	ELECTRIC	COVER	CROWN
FLUTE	COOK	FRANCE	FAIR	PAPER

Blue goes first

Unrelated to this game, I think we might want to expand the word list a bit. Maybe add these?

[silverspawn]

girly: 2

[Eevee]

princess

[silverspawn]

princess

 

ahm. princess is blue.

[Eevee]

uhm, flute

[silverspawn]

is also blue!

[Eevee]

nice!

pass

[eHalcyon]

Sorry for the delay!  I'm less available on the weekend.

Sauerbraten: 3

[gkrieg13]

german

[eHalcyon]

german

is Red

[gkrieg13]

cook

[silverspawn]

is red

by the way, foreign words are against the rules

You must play in English. A foreign word is
allowed only if the players in your group would
use it in an English sentence. For example,
you can't use Apfel as a clue for APPLE and
BERLIN, but you can use strudel.

And for good reason, you can get a free ticket on every country simply by translating any other clue into that language.

well, unless you are using Sauerbraten regularly-- are you?

[gkrieg13]

Well I didn't look up what the word meant so

paper

I agree about foreign words though

[eHalcyon]

is red

by the way, foreign words are against the rules

You must play in English. A foreign word is
allowed only if the players in your group would
use it in an English sentence. For example,
you can't use Apfel as a clue for APPLE and
BERLIN, but you can use strudel.

And for good reason, you can get a free ticket on every country simply by translating any other clue into that language.

well, unless you are using Sauerbraten regularly-- are you?

Uhh, I thought it would be OK since it's a specific food dish and there's no equivalent definitely-English word.  If I were to refer to it, I would call it Sauerbraten.  But if you want a penalty, I won't make a big deal about it.  In any case, Paper is Blue.

[Kuildeous]

Uhh, I thought it would be OK since it's a specific food dish and there's no equivalent definitely-English word.  If I were to refer to it, I would call it Sauerbraten.  But if you want a penalty, I won't make a big deal about it.  In any case, Paper is Blue.

As a noninvolved party, I would have accepted sauerbraten. It's frequently on the menu at my local German restaurant. I place it in the same category as crepe, tiramisu, and sushi (though probably not unagi and tamago).

As for that list of additional words, I couldn't get the web page to open for some reason. We should probably ask in the main Codenames thread.

[Accatitippi]

Uhh, I thought it would be OK since it's a specific food dish and there's no equivalent definitely-English word.  If I were to refer to it, I would call it Sauerbraten.  But if you want a penalty, I won't make a big deal about it.  In any case, Paper is Blue.

As a noninvolved party, I would have accepted sauerbraten. It's frequently on the menu at my local German restaurant. I place it in the same category as crepe, tiramisu, and sushi (though probably not unagi and tamago).

As for that list of additional words, I couldn't get the web page to open for some reason. We should probably ask in the main Codenames thread.

I too would accept sauerbraten without problems. Of course google makes these clues much more problematic, since IRL games are naturally limiting how deep in linguistic weirdness you can go with the other players still knowing what you're talking about.

[silverspawn]

As a noninvolved party, I would have accepted sauerbraten. It's frequently on the menu at my local German restaurant. I place it in the same category as crepe, tiramisu, and sushi (though probably not unagi and tamago).

Huh... okay I guess that's fine.

and I wasn't meaning to imply that we should give you a penalty or anything, just for the future. But if it's fine anyway, then nvm, as long as we don't allow to translate just any term.

[Kuildeous]

and I wasn't meaning to imply that we should give you a penalty or anything, just for the future. But if it's fine anyway, then nvm, as long as we don't allow to translate just any term.

That's why I probably wouldn't allow unagi. While it is a type of sushi, it is just a Japanese translation for eel.

It does boil down to whether or not the opposing spymaster has a problem with it. I played a real-life game with my wife, and she wanted to give maneki-neko as the clue. It was a little more difficult being that she didn't know the exact word, but she asked me if that waving cat would be a valid clue. We looked it up on Google, and I figured that it was valid. I was lucky on that one because the person who spent years in Japan was on my team and not hers.

I forgot about (or overlooked) the rule about English words. With the globalization of language, that rule can be a little difficult to interpret. So again, ask the other spymaster.

[eHalcyon]

Well, blue is up!

[silverspawn]

Ohh oups I totally missed that a blue word was flipped. I'll get right to it.

[silverspawn]

TAP	LONDON	MINT	SNOW	MILLIONAIRE
STOCK	CARD	PRINCESS	CODE	POOL
TOWER	CENTAUR	VAN	GERMANY	BANK
INDIA	HEAD	ELECTRIC	COVER	CROWN
FLUTE	COOK	FRANCE	FAIR	PAPER

wealth: 2

[Eevee]

millionaire

[silverspawn]

is blue

[Eevee]

bank

[silverspawn]

is blue

[Eevee]

pass 

[eHalcyon]

Frosty: 3

[gkrieg13]

SNOW

[eHalcyon]

SNOW

Is red

[gkrieg13]

mint?

[silverspawn]

red

[gkrieg13]

tap

[silverspawn]

is neutral.

[silverspawn]

TAP	LONDON	MINT	SNOW	MILLIONAIRE
STOCK	CARD	PRINCESS	CODE	POOL
TOWER	CENTAUR	VAN	GERMANY	BANK
INDIA	HEAD	ELECTRIC	COVER	CROWN
FLUTE	COOK	FRANCE	FAIR	PAPER

maths: 2

[Eevee]

code

[silverspawn]

is blue

[Eevee]

iiii'll say india?

[silverspawn]

is Neutral.

TAP	LONDON	MINT	SNOW	MILLIONAIRE
STOCK	CARD	PRINCESS	CODE	POOL
TOWER	CENTAUR	VAN	GERMANY	BANK
INDIA	HEAD	ELECTRIC	COVER	CROWN
FLUTE	COOK	FRANCE	FAIR	PAPER

Red's Turn.

[Eevee]

Bleh.

[silverspawn]

could be worse!

[Eevee]

Yeppp, let's close this one out!

[eHalcyon]

Pub: 3

Let's just give 3-clues every time.

[gkrieg13]

POOL

[eHalcyon]

POOL

Well that one was unexpected.  I'm afraid Pool is neutral.

[eHalcyon]

I totally should have made that connection first though. Whoops, my bad!

[silverspawn]

country: 1

[gkrieg13]

Sorry about that.  The good thing is I think I have enough clues to get the rest of the words

[silverspawn]

Sorry about that.  The good thing is I think I have enough clues to get the rest of the words

eh, I don't think you should say that out loud.

[eHalcyon]

Sorry about that.  The good thing is I think I have enough clues to get the rest of the words

Nah, it was my fault.  Pool was an obvious connection that I overlooked while evaluating.

On the bright side, I get to try one more 3-clue.

PPE: well, it's objective fact that he has at least one entirely unused 3-clue to work with, with only 4 codenames left for us to find.  In general, I think it's OK for the guessers to table talk a bit.

[silverspawn]

I agree; I think it's more problematic if the guesser says something to the spymaster. Mh maybe I'm oversensitive, but this seems like it could affect your decisions.

[eHalcyon]

I agree; I think it's more problematic if the guesser says something to the spymaster. Mh maybe I'm oversensitive, but this seems like it could affect your decisions.

Well, the objective fact of the most recent clue suggests that I already believe gkrieg will have enough to get 3. I don't think that statement changes my evaluation of the situation.

[silverspawn]

fair enough.

I hope you're wrong 

[Eevee]

france

[eHalcyon]

fair enough.

I hope you're wrong 

Given the track record of the current game, it is a strong possibility.

@Eevee, France is Blue!  You have a guess left, if you want it.

[gkrieg13]

I agree; I think it's more problematic if the guesser says something to the spymaster. Mh maybe I'm oversensitive, but this seems like it could affect your decisions.

In the real game I'm allowed to say what ever I want. It's the spymasters that have rules on what they can say

[silverspawn]

I agree; I think it's more problematic if the guesser says something to the spymaster. Mh maybe I'm oversensitive, but this seems like it could affect your decisions.

In the real game I'm allowed to say what ever I want. It's the spymasters that have rules on what they can say

... really? that can be used for benefit, though-- in fact, it should be used if it's legal. It's always beneficial to inform your spymaster at which words you are or aren't suspecting.

[gkrieg13]

I agree; I think it's more problematic if the guesser says something to the spymaster. Mh maybe I'm oversensitive, but this seems like it could affect your decisions.

In the real game I'm allowed to say what ever I want. It's the spymasters that have rules on what they can say

... really? that can be used for benefit, though-- in fact, it should be used if it's legal. It's always beneficial to inform your spymaster at which words you are or aren't suspecting.

ya I think it is just this game that we are being a little bit strange about it.  I have always talked to my spymaster in the other games

[eHalcyon]

I agree; I think it's more problematic if the guesser says something to the spymaster. Mh maybe I'm oversensitive, but this seems like it could affect your decisions.

In the real game I'm allowed to say what ever I want. It's the spymasters that have rules on what they can say

... really? that can be used for benefit, though-- in fact, it should be used if it's legal. It's always beneficial to inform your spymaster at which words you are or aren't suspecting.

Within the realm of reason, and according to what the group is comfortable with.  Like, it would certainly be wrong for gkrieg to do stuff like, "you should give this sort of clue if it's this, or that sort of clue if it's that" and dictate what I do.  But the guessers would certainly be talking, especially if there were multiple guessers per team.

[gkrieg13]

I agree; I think it's more problematic if the guesser says something to the spymaster. Mh maybe I'm oversensitive, but this seems like it could affect your decisions.

In the real game I'm allowed to say what ever I want. It's the spymasters that have rules on what they can say

... really? that can be used for benefit, though-- in fact, it should be used if it's legal. It's always beneficial to inform your spymaster at which words you are or aren't suspecting.

Within the realm of reason, and according to what the group is comfortable with.  Like, it would certainly be wrong for gkrieg to do stuff like, "you should give this sort of clue if it's this, or that sort of clue if it's that" and dictate what I do.  But the guessers would certainly be talking, especially if there were multiple guessers per team.

Ya there are a few things that are off limits because of the forum setting, but everything that isn't intentionally trying to game it should be allowed

[Eevee]

fair

[eHalcyon]

Is blue.

TAP	LONDON	MINT	SNOW	MILLIONAIRE
STOCK	CARD	PRINCESS	CODE	POOL
TOWER	CENTAUR	VAN	GERMANY	BANK
INDIA	HEAD	ELECTRIC	COVER	CROWN
FLUTE	COOK	FRANCE	FAIR	PAPER

[eHalcyon]

I'm going to go with Stables: Unlimited

[gkrieg13]

centaur

And pool should be labeled neutral

[silverspawn]

is red

[eHalcyon]

TAP	LONDON	MINT	SNOW	MILLIONAIRE
STOCK	CARD	PRINCESS	CODE	POOL
TOWER	CENTAUR	VAN	GERMANY	BANK
INDIA	HEAD	ELECTRIC	COVER	CROWN
FLUTE	COOK	FRANCE	FAIR	PAPER

[gkrieg13]

london

[silverspawn]

is red

[gkrieg13]

head

[eHalcyon]

head

Is red!

But can you get the last word and end the game?

[silverspawn]

I'll give you a hint: it's   Moat 

[gkrieg13]

I really hope it is

cover

[eHalcyon]

I really hope it is

cover

I was worried about that one.  Neutral.  Valiant effort though.  Take it away, Blue Team.

[gkrieg13]

Oh man I totally missed card.  How did I not see that?

[silverspawn]

TAP	LONDON	MINT	SNOW	MILLIONAIRE
STOCK	CARD	PRINCESS	CODE	POOL
TOWER	CENTAUR	VAN	GERMANY	BANK
INDIA	HEAD	ELECTRIC	COVER	CROWN
FLUTE	COOK	FRANCE	FAIR	PAPER

supply: 1

[eHalcyon]

Oh man I totally missed card.  How did I not see that?

No comment on whether this is correct or not, but I do wonder if a different clue would have been better.  I shared a bunch of ideas with silverspawn because I just wanted to get them down somewhere.  And I hadn't considered it earlier, but I realize now that this may have been a good time for a 0-clue.

[Eevee]

stock.

Are we tied again?

[silverspawn]

stock.

Are we tied again?

we win!

[silverspawn]

TAP	LONDON	MINT	SNOW	MILLIONAIRE
STOCK	CARD	PRINCESS	CODE	POOL
TOWER	CENTAUR	VAN	GERMANY	BANK
INDIA	HEAD	ELECTRIC	COVER	CROWN
FLUTE	COOK	FRANCE	FAIR	PAPER

[Eevee]

I meant in total games, is it 3-3 now?

[Eevee]

Blue goes first

PASS	TABLET	LAWYER	LUCK	DOOR
PAW	MARCH	EAST	CZECH	MOON
CENTAUR	CONCERT	ALPS	DANCE	FILM
FILE	BEER	LITTER	ALIEN	BAND
WAKE	SUPERHERO	CRICKET	CHURCH	DEGREE

[Eevee]

E.T. :2

[eHalcyon]

So here's how I evaluate the situation right now:

I've given a clue to cover every word already, but some are a stretch.  I think London is well covered by Pub.  Head is OK-ish.  It's covered by "Frosty" and "Pub", which were both stretches but there are two!  Frosty was originally supposed to be "Frosty the Snowman > hat on head" but gkrieg guessed Tap, probably thinking of beer.  In that sense, Frosty still works for Head and I decided to lean on that further with Pub.  So I hope that's OK.

Centaur is iffy.  The intention was to get it with Sauerbraten (traditionally made with horse meat).  Card is also a little iffy because Cover has maybe even a stronger connection to Pub.

So I really want a clue to hit Centaur and Card.  From the start, I really wanted to go with Dumbledore: 3 to hit London, Head[master] and Centaur (for the magical connection and the big role they play in the series).  I avoided it because of Fair.  Now that I think about it more, it could have a Card connection (chocolate frogs) but there is also a danger with Tower.  I was also considering Tarot, Divination, or Magic to touch on similar ideas, more strongly hitting Card (especially Tarot and Magic) but being weaker with other associations.  Tarot has a problem in that it has a strong connection with Tower.  Queen is another possible 3-clue but it doesn't hit Centaur, which I'm worried about, and could mislead to Fair as well.

I'm torn between trying for another 3 and hoping the previous clues are enough to guide away from the red herrings, or just giving a stronger clue for Card and Centaur (currently thinking, Stables: unlimited).

gkrieg's statement doesn't really affect my judgement because I know I've already covered everything but I also know that some things are a bit of a stretch.  His statement doesn't tell me anything useful because he could easily be overconfident.  It's easier for me to just judge based on my own intention and evaluation (Pool notwithstanding).

[silverspawn]

I think this is the final game for me. You can probably find a replacement if you want to continue after this one, though.

Film

[Eevee]

blue

[silverspawn]

... band?

[Eevee]

band is neutral

[gkrieg13]

Wonder Dog: 3

[eHalcyon]

Superhero

[gkrieg13]

Is red

[eHalcyon]

Paw

[gkrieg13]

Is red

[eHalcyon]

Uh, Litter and then pass

[eHalcyon]

pass as in end the turn, not as in guessing that word

[gkrieg13]

Is red

[Eevee]

sound: 2

[silverspawn]

PASS	TABLET	LAWYER	LUCK	DOOR
PAW	MARCH	EAST	CZECH	MOON
CENTAUR	CONCERT	ALPS	DANCE	FILM
FILE	BEER	LITTER	ALIEN	BAND
WAKE	SUPERHERO	CRICKET	CHURCH	DEGREE

[silverspawn]

well Concert

[Eevee]

blue (sorry on mobile, couldnt edit the grid)

[silverspawn]

cricket?

[Eevee]

blue (Y)

[silverspawn]

dance

[Eevee]

neutral :|

[gkrieg13]

PASS	TABLET	LAWYER	LUCK	DOOR
PAW	MARCH	EAST	CZECH	MOON
CENTAUR	CONCERT	ALPS	DANCE	FILM
FILE	BEER	LITTER	ALIEN	BAND
WAKE	SUPERHERO	CRICKET	CHURCH	DEGREE

[silverspawn]

- Why is that a dance?
That's just what they call it.
- Don't make much sense.
I think it's poetic.

[gkrieg13]

Genghis Khan: 3

[eHalcyon]

East

[gkrieg13]

East

Is Red

[eHalcyon]

March?

[gkrieg13]

MARCH is RED

[eHalcyon]

Sketchy, but I'm going to go with Centaur for the horse association.

[gkrieg13]

CENTAUR is RED

[eHalcyon]

End turn!

[Eevee]

PASS	TABLET	LAWYER	LUCK	DOOR
PAW	MARCH	EAST	CZECH	MOON
CENTAUR	CONCERT	ALPS	DANCE	FILM
FILE	BEER	LITTER	ALIEN	BAND
WAKE	SUPERHERO	CRICKET	CHURCH	DEGREE

Quarterback: 2

[silverspawn]

PASS

[eHalcyon]

PASS

Oh, I guess it's our turn now!

[gkrieg13]

PASS is BLUE

[silverspawn]

FILE?

[gkrieg13]

FILE is RED

 

PASS	TABLET	LAWYER	LUCK	DOOR
PAW	MARCH	EAST	CZECH	MOON
CENTAUR	CONCERT	ALPS	DANCE	FILM
FILE	BEER	LITTER	ALIEN	BAND
WAKE	SUPERHERO	CRICKET	CHURCH	DEGREE

iPad: 1

[eHalcyon]

Tablet

[gkrieg13]

Tablet

Is RED!

[gkrieg13]

gg all!

[eHalcyon]

Good games, everyone.

So ET was Alien, right?  It has to be, and it was kind of shocking that silverspawn got Film but missed Alien...

I am unsure what the other Quarterback word is.  My best guess is Beer.

[Eevee]

Yes, ET was alien. QB was luck for Andrew Luck.

Congrats ehalc and gkrieg

[silverspawn]

well that was unfortunate... I've never watched ET and know nothing about sports so I had to rely purely on a bit of research for both.

[eHalcyon]

well that was unfortunate... I've never watched ET and know nothing about sports so I had to rely purely on a bit of research for both.

I haven't watched it either, but it's just such a huge pop culture thing, at least in North America.

So, are you still up for more, or are you definitely done?

If done, do any spectators want to step in?

[Eevee]

Maybe draw for new teams, whoever we get, be it silver or a new spectator?

[silverspawn]

I think I'm done, at least for now. I'll lean back and watch you play for a while 

[faust]

I can replace silver if you like.

[Eevee]

I'm drawing for teams, random number for my teammate, faust is 1, gkrieg 2 and ehalc 3.


.. turns out I'm too dumb to figure out how to roll for teams. Someone less stupid do it!

[gkrieg13]

Rolled 1d3 : 2, total 2

[gkrieg13]

So I'm your teammate

[Eevee]

Since I was the spymaster in the last game, maybe faust and ehalcyon go first?

Let's go team Eevee + gkrieg!

[eHalcyon]

Since I was the spymaster in the last game, maybe faust and ehalcyon go first?

Let's go team Eevee + gkrieg!

gkrieg was spymaster last turn too?  Uhhh... so I guess I can be spymaster and then either Either Eevee or gkrieg will be.  Eevee is 1, gkrieg is 2.

The opposing spymaster will be...

Rolled 1d2 : 2, total 2

[eHalcyon]

gkrieg is the other spymaster.  We can re-roll for colours too!  I've already sent gkrieg the grid.

Blue goes first

STATE	CORNER	LETTER	ANTARCTICA	GREECE
AMAZON	LASER	PICK	AMERICA	LIGHT
ALIEN	SLIP	FIELD	PANTS	SATURN
CHURCH	GIANT	GUITAR	MILK	FALL
LEAD	HOOD	EAST	TRAIN	SATELLITE

1 = ehalcyon + faust are blue
2 = gkrieg + Eevee are blue

Rolled 1d2 : 1, total 1

[eHalcyon]

OK, faust and I are blue.

Liquid: 3

[faust]

Milk

[gkrieg13]

MILK is BLUE

[faust]

Amazon

[gkrieg13]

AMAZON is BLUE

[faust]

State and pass

[gkrieg13]

STATE is BLUE

STATE	CORNER	LETTER	ANTARCTICA	GREECE
AMAZON	LASER	PICK	AMERICA	LIGHT
ALIEN	SLIP	FIELD	PANTS	SATURN
CHURCH	GIANT	GUITAR	MILK	FALL
LEAD	HOOD	EAST	TRAIN	SATELLITE

War of the Worlds: 3

[faust]

EDIT: Nevermind, I'm stupid.

[Eevee]

alien

[gkrieg13]

ALIEN is RED

[Eevee]

Giant

[gkrieg13]

GIANT is RED

[Eevee]

Field

[gkrieg13]

FIELD is NEUTRAL

[eHalcyon]

Cleric: 3

[eHalcyon]

STATE	CORNER	LETTER	ANTARCTICA	GREECE
AMAZON	LASER	PICK	AMERICA	LIGHT
ALIEN	SLIP	FIELD	PANTS	SATURN
CHURCH	GIANT	GUITAR	MILK	FALL
LEAD	HOOD	EAST	TRAIN	SATELLITE

[faust]

Church

[gkrieg13]

Church is blue

[faust]

Hood

[gkrieg13]

Hood

Is blue

[faust]

lead

[faust]

And pass

[eHalcyon]

Can't post grid right now, but lead is blue.

[gkrieg13]

STATE	CORNER	LETTER	ANTARCTICA	GREECE
AMAZON	LASER	PICK	AMERICA	LIGHT
ALIEN	SLIP	FIELD	PANTS	SATURN
CHURCH	GIANT	GUITAR	MILK	FALL
LEAD	HOOD	EAST	TRAIN	SATELLITE

Wow that is a blue board

[gkrieg13]

PEEL: 3

[Eevee]

slip

[eHalcyon]

slip

Is red

[Eevee]

guitar

[gkrieg13]

guitar

Is red

[Eevee]

corner

[eHalcyon]

corner

That would have been my guess too, but I'm afraid it's neutral.

Still can't post the grid.  Will post clue shortly...

[eHalcyon]

Going for it.

Cargo: 3

[faust]

Updated grid before I make my choice.

STATE	CORNER	LETTER	ANTARCTICA	GREECE
AMAZON	LASER	PICK	AMERICA	LIGHT
ALIEN	SLIP	FIELD	PANTS	SATURN
CHURCH	GIANT	GUITAR	MILK	FALL
LEAD	HOOD	EAST	TRAIN	SATELLITE

[faust]

pants

[gkrieg13]

PANTS is BLUE

[faust]

train

[gkrieg13]

TRAIN is BLUE

[faust]

letter

Fingers crossed...

[eHalcyon]

letter

Fingers crossed...

I knew this was a risk going in, but I thought it would be more fun anyway.

Letter is Red!

[eHalcyon]

STATE	CORNER	LETTER	ANTARCTICA	GREECE
AMAZON	LASER	PICK	AMERICA	LIGHT
ALIEN	SLIP	FIELD	PANTS	SATURN
CHURCH	GIANT	GUITAR	MILK	FALL
LEAD	HOOD	EAST	TRAIN	SATELLITE

1 Blue word remaining, 3 Red words remaining.  Red is up!  Can they end it now?

[Eevee]

Let's go red!

[gkrieg13]

DONALD TRUMP: 3

[Eevee]

'mmurica!

[gkrieg13]

'mmurica!

Although I can easily infer your meaning, you might want to make it clear that you are actually guessing

[Eevee]

America!

[gkrieg13]

AMERICA is RED

[Eevee]

Laser

[gkrieg13]

darn.

LASER is NEUTRAL

[Eevee]

Oh. Darn. Sorry!

[eHalcyon]

STATE	CORNER	LETTER	ANTARCTICA	GREECE
AMAZON	LASER	PICK	AMERICA	LIGHT
ALIEN	SLIP	FIELD	PANTS	SATURN
CHURCH	GIANT	GUITAR	MILK	FALL
LEAD	HOOD	EAST	TRAIN	SATELLITE

It was a good try though!

Flash: 1

[faust]

light

[gkrieg13]

LIGHT is the ASSASSIN!!!

Just kidding it is totally BLUE

BLUE TEAM WINS!

[gkrieg13]

STATE	CORNER	LETTER	ANTARCTICA	GREECE
AMAZON	LASER	PICK	AMERICA	LIGHT
ALIEN	SLIP	FIELD	PANTS	SATURN
CHURCH	GIANT	GUITAR	MILK	FALL
LEAD	HOOD	EAST	TRAIN	SATELLITE

[faust]

pick and fall would actually have been my guesses for Trump. Well played everyone! Special thanks to ehalc for top-notch clues.

[gkrieg13]

pick and fall would actually have been my guesses for Trump. Well played everyone! Special thanks to ehalc for top-notch clues.

It was great because they went together: America Picks Donald Trump and Falls

[eHalcyon]

I thought Donald Trump was really clever.

For Cleric, I was actually aiming for Light instead of Lead, because I was thinking of it more as the element.  In retrospect, we might have been able to do Cleric: 5 to grab Train as well.  I had been planning to use something military to hit Lead (bullets), Train and Pants.  I ended up trying Cargo > weight > Light but I knew Letter was a risk there.  I was hoping that the red clue for Peel might have deterred faust there.

[faust]

pick and fall would actually have been my guesses for Trump. Well played everyone! Special thanks to ehalc for top-notch clues.

It was great because they went together: America Picks Donald Trump and Falls

Oh, I thought America Picks Donald Trump in the Fall.

[gkrieg13]

Ya my problems with clues this game is that I had a few that were really close, but hard to give a clue for.  The two were SLIP and FALL, and GUITAR and PICK

[faust]

I thought Donald Trump was really clever.

For Cleric, I was actually aiming for Light instead of Lead, because I was thinking of it more as the element.  In retrospect, we might have been able to do Cleric: 5 to grab Train as well.  I had been planning to use something military to hit Lead (bullets), Train and Pants.  I ended up trying Cargo > weight > Light but I knew Letter was a risk there.  I was hoping that the red clue for Peel might have deterred faust there.

Ha, light makes sense for cleric I guess. Train, Letter and Pants just came to me immediately when I thought of Cargo, and I didn't think you would play risky with the lead we had.

[faust]

Once more with switched roles?

[gkrieg13]

Once more with switched roles?

yep

[eHalcyon]

I thought Donald Trump was really clever.

For Cleric, I was actually aiming for Light instead of Lead, because I was thinking of it more as the element.  In retrospect, we might have been able to do Cleric: 5 to grab Train as well.  I had been planning to use something military to hit Lead (bullets), Train and Pants.  I ended up trying Cargo > weight > Light but I knew Letter was a risk there.  I was hoping that the red clue for Peel might have deterred faust there.

Ha, light makes sense for cleric I guess. Train, Letter and Pants just came to me immediately when I thought of Cargo, and I didn't think you would play risky with the lead we had.

I think it's more fun to play risky in Codenames.   The lead wasn't necessarily so big.  I actually wasn't sure what else War in the Worlds was for, but maybe Eevee could have cracked it.  And then I knew there was Peel for Letter.  That's 2, so it seemed possible for red to catch up with past clues filling in.

I also didn't think Letter was a super strong association, though I figured it was probably a bit more plausible than Light.  But I went for it anyway.  Didn't work out that turn, but oh well!

faust or Eevee, randomize the next one?

[gkrieg13]

I thought Donald Trump was really clever.

For Cleric, I was actually aiming for Light instead of Lead, because I was thinking of it more as the element.  In retrospect, we might have been able to do Cleric: 5 to grab Train as well.  I had been planning to use something military to hit Lead (bullets), Train and Pants.  I ended up trying Cargo > weight > Light but I knew Letter was a risk there.  I was hoping that the red clue for Peel might have deterred faust there.

Ha, light makes sense for cleric I guess. Train, Letter and Pants just came to me immediately when I thought of Cargo, and I didn't think you would play risky with the lead we had.

I think it's more fun to play risky in Codenames.   The lead wasn't necessarily so big.  I actually wasn't sure what else War in the Worlds was for, but maybe Eevee could have cracked it.  And then I knew there was Peel for Letter.  That's 2, so it seemed possible for red to catch up with past clues filling in.

I also didn't think Letter was a super strong association, though I figured it was probably a bit more plausible than Light.  But I went for it anyway.  Didn't work out that turn, but oh well!

faust or Eevee, randomize the next one?

Ya I was thinking America for War of the Worlds, but I then read more about it and it took place mainly not in America.  I was thinking about the movie.  I wanted to say Independence Day as the clue, but knew that wouldn't work as well because people would just think of the 4th of July instead of the movie

[faust]

Blue goes first

ROOT	LINE	CHURCH	MAIL	PAW
HIRE	GRACE	HEART	NUT	COURT
CAKE	DUCK	SUIT	LIMOUSINE	SAIL
TRUNK	DESEASE	MINE	MARBLE	SNOW
NINJA	SQUARE	TEMPLE	HAM	BACK

[faust]

Do we randomize starting order too or should we let the team start that went last the last time?

[silverspawn]

Do we randomize starting order too or should we let the team start that went last the last time?

Starting team has one word more, so it's not clear that it's an advantage

[Eevee]

I thought laser was for Wor of Worlds, I googled if they shoot lasers and it seemed they did. I've seen the movie when it came out, can't remember many movies I like less than it. I was going to pick fall next, but I was also considering east for Trump since he is from the east coast.

[faust]

Go new round.

Life: 4

[eHalcyon]

Ambitious!

Root

[faust]

ROOT is BLUE.

[eHalcyon]

Line

[eHalcyon]

Also, just noticed a typo in a word on the grid -- is that supposed to be DECEASE or DISEASE?

[faust]

LINE is BLUE.

[faust]

Also, just noticed a typo in a word on the grid -- is that supposed to be DECEASE or DISEASE?

I'd say it's disease. Fixed grid:

ROOT	LINE	CHURCH	MAIL	PAW
HIRE	GRACE	HEART	NUT	COURT
CAKE	DUCK	SUIT	LIMOUSINE	SAIL
TRUNK	DISEASE	MINE	MARBLE	SNOW
NINJA	SQUARE	TEMPLE	HAM	BACK

[eHalcyon]

This is where it gets hairy.  I see a few possibilities now and none that I feel super strongly about.

I'm going to go with NUT, because it shares the same kind of life theme with Root.

[faust]

NUT is NEUTRAL.

ROOT	LINE	CHURCH	MAIL	PAW
HIRE	GRACE	HEART	NUT	COURT
CAKE	DUCK	SUIT	LIMOUSINE	SAIL
TRUNK	DISEASE	MINE	MARBLE	SNOW
NINJA	SQUARE	TEMPLE	HAM	BACK

Red's turn.

[eHalcyon]

D'oh.  Next time then.

[eHalcyon]

Eevee?

[Eevee]

Sorry, didn't see this. I'll give a clue in a few hours, having a dinner with my mom now.

[Eevee]

NUT is NEUTRAL.

ROOT	LINE	CHURCH	MAIL	PAW
HIRE	GRACE	HEART	NUT	COURT
CAKE	DUCK	SUIT	LIMOUSINE	SAIL
TRUNK	DISEASE	MINE	MARBLE	SNOW
NINJA	SQUARE	TEMPLE	HAM	BACK

Red's turn.

White: 3

[gkrieg13]

cake

[faust]

CAKE is RED.

[gkrieg13]

snow

[Eevee]

snow is red!

[faust]

snow is red!

I thought snow was white...

[gkrieg13]

church

[Eevee]

church is blue

[gkrieg13]

snow is red!

I thought snow was white...

But Snow White wears blue!

[faust]

ROOT	LINE	CHURCH	MAIL	PAW
HIRE	GRACE	HEART	NUT	COURT
CAKE	DUCK	SUIT	LIMOUSINE	SAIL
TRUNK	DISEASE	MINE	MARBLE	SNOW
NINJA	SQUARE	TEMPLE	HAM	BACK

Owl: 3

[eHalcyon]

faust obviously shouldn't confirm or deny, but I'll state that Church was one of the possibilities I saw for "Life".

My first guess will be Duck because they are both birds and Duck could have been something for Life too.

[faust]

DUCK is BLUE.

[eHalcyon]

Mail, hoping that faust has noticed the Harry Potter theme that's been running in Codenames VI.

[Eevee]

Mail is blue as well

[eHalcyon]

I am torn between ~3 different words now.  I'm going to pick the one I think would be cleverest if it were intended.

Court (because parliament of owls)

[Eevee]

blue indeed

[eHalcyon]

I could make an additional guess for Life, but there's enough potential overlap that I will leave it.  I pass!

[Eevee]

ROOT	LINE	CHURCH	MAIL	PAW
HIRE	GRACE	HEART	NUT	COURT
CAKE	DUCK	SUIT	LIMOUSINE	SAIL
TRUNK	DISEASE	MINE	MARBLE	SNOW
NINJA	SQUARE	TEMPLE	HAM	BACK

Sellsword: 2

[gkrieg13]

hire

[faust]

HIRE is RED.

[gkrieg13]

marble

[Eevee]

red!

[gkrieg13]

ninja

[faust]

NINJA is RED.

I'll be posting a clue shortly.

[faust]

ROOT	LINE	CHURCH	MAIL	PAW
HIRE	GRACE	HEART	NUT	COURT
CAKE	DUCK	SUIT	LIMOUSINE	SAIL
TRUNK	DISEASE	MINE	MARBLE	SNOW
NINJA	SQUARE	TEMPLE	HAM	BACK

Let's do it!

Shireen Baratheon: 3

[eHalcyon]

Disease is the most obvious one.

[faust]

DISEASE is BLUE.

[eHalcyon]

Your Grace...

[faust]

GRACE is BLUE.

[eHalcyon]

The Flaming Heart?

If this is the one, you totally could've done Life: 6.  I would have tried Nut, but then gotten the rest later.

[faust]

That's the one

I thought about giving life a higher number... I was worried that it would lead to stuff like "paw" and "ham" eventually.

[faust]

Grace was a difficult one. It just didn't seem to fit with any other clues until I thought Game of Thrones.

[faust]

Full grid:

ROOT	LINE	CHURCH	MAIL	PAW
HIRE	GRACE	HEART	NUT	COURT
CAKE	DUCK	SUIT	LIMOUSINE	SAIL
TRUNK	DISEASE	MINE	MARBLE	SNOW
NINJA	SQUARE	TEMPLE	HAM	BACK

[faust]

I realized the "disease" misspelling early on, but didn't want to say anything because that might have indicated that it was blue.

[Eevee]

Good game. I would have had trouble connecting sail, ham and paw even if you missed.

[faust]

Good game. I would have had trouble connecting sail, ham and paw even if you missed.

I was a bit worried that ehalc might go for Sail because of Dragonstone being an island.

[eHalcyon]

I realized the "disease" misspelling early on, but didn't want to say anything because that might have indicated that it was blue.

While for my part, I thought it was high likelihood for Life whether it was Disease or Decease, but the fact that it hadn't been corrected immediately made me doubt. .

If you didn't do GoT, something like Jesus could have hit Church, Grace, Heart, maybe Root, Disease, Court.  Temple would be the one trap there.

Temple and Grace were my other thoughts for Owl.  Did you intend it for Grace and I just got lucky with Court?  Temple was a possibility to me because I have this strong association for Temple > Athens > Athena > Owl motif, but that's just so many steps.

[eHalcyon]

Good game. I would have had trouble connecting sail, ham and paw even if you missed.

Not thinking too hard about it, but your set definitely looks a lot tougher to me. 

[gkrieg13]

I was torn between church and marble for the white clue and just chose wrong

[Accatitippi]

I've been spectating this, and interestingly would have never guessed cake for white - I would have gone straight for Sail, Marble and Snow. 

The Owl hint was awesome, congratulations to team blue!

[gkrieg13]

I've been spectating this, and interestingly would have never guessed cake for white - I would have gone straight for Sail, Marble and Snow. 

The Owl hint was awesome, congratulations to team blue!

I love white cake, so that was the reason.

[faust]

I realized the "disease" misspelling early on, but didn't want to say anything because that might have indicated that it was blue.

While for my part, I thought it was high likelihood for Life whether it was Disease or Decease, but the fact that it hadn't been corrected immediately made me doubt. .

If you didn't do GoT, something like Jesus could have hit Church, Grace, Heart, maybe Root, Disease, Court.  Temple would be the one trap there.

Temple and Grace were my other thoughts for Owl.  Did you intend it for Grace and I just got lucky with Court?  Temple was a possibility to me because I have this strong association for Temple > Athens > Athena > Owl motif, but that's just so many steps.

Yeah, most religious things with grace would have also indicated temple, so that was an issue.

I tried to get to Grace with owl. Originally I intended to give Divorce: 3 for court, church, heart, but then church was already guessed.

[eHalcyon]

gkrieg randomize, or do you want me to do it?  Maybe randomize until you get a red start.

[gkrieg13]

Red goes first

CONCERT	THIEF	DANCE	OIL	PALM
PIN	KIWI	MEXICO	HORN	WASHINGTON
FALL	BACK	LINK	DUST	HAWK
CANADA	SUIT	SPINE	MOUNT	THUMB
ICE CREAM	HOSPITAL	PRESS	ALPS	COMIC

[gkrieg13]

Clue to come later

[gkrieg13]

ROBIN HOOD: 3

[Eevee]

can't guess until tomorrow, sorry!

[Eevee]

except I'll say thief

[gkrieg13]

THIEF is RED

[gkrieg13]

can't guess until tomorrow, sorry!

Take your time!

[Eevee]

back (can't resist)

[faust]

back (can't resist)

Is that a guess?

[Eevee]

back

[gkrieg13]

BACK is BLUE

 

[eHalcyon]

And now my 4-clue will be reduced to a 3-clue.

CONCERT	THIEF	DANCE	OIL	PALM
PIN	KIWI	MEXICO	HORN	WASHINGTON
FALL	BACK	LINK	DUST	HAWK
CANADA	SUIT	SPINE	MOUNT	THUMB
ICE CREAM	HOSPITAL	PRESS	ALPS	COMIC

Homecoming: 3

[Eevee]

should have resisted

[faust]

American college traditions, huh? Well, let's see how good I can be at that.

Dance

[gkrieg13]

DANCE is BLUE

[faust]

Fall

[gkrieg13]

FALL is BLUE

[faust]

Concert

I hope there are concerts involved.

[eHalcyon]

Red, unfortunately!  Not sure if there are concerts involved in homecoming activities, but I've never heard of that.  I did think it would be a possible trap here, but big clues are always more fun.

CONCERT	THIEF	DANCE	OIL	PALM
PIN	KIWI	MEXICO	HORN	WASHINGTON
FALL	BACK	LINK	DUST	HAWK
CANADA	SUIT	SPINE	MOUNT	THUMB
ICE CREAM	HOSPITAL	PRESS	ALPS	COMIC

Out of curiosity, do you think you would have gotten BACK if it hadn't been flipped earlier?

[faust]

I don't know. It fits, but I also thought it would go well with Robin Hood, so I guess it depends on how those guesses would have went down.

[eHalcyon]

I don't know. It fits, but I also thought it would go well with Robin Hood, so I guess it depends on how those guesses would have went down.

I'm actually not seeing the Robin Hood connection for "back", and gkrieg didn't either.  Maybe this is a Europe vs. North America thing.

[gkrieg13]

Zelda: 3

[Eevee]

He famously gave back to the poor!

Now I'm really out until tomorrow.

[eHalcyon]

He famously gave back to the poor!

Now I'm really out until tomorrow.

Oh, that's fair.

[Eevee]

We might be in trouble, I've never played any of the zelda games at all.

However, we shall try.

Link

[gkrieg13]

link is red

[Eevee]

Hawk

[gkrieg13]

HAWK is RED

[Eevee]

Hopefully there is a zelda Comic?

[gkrieg13]

COMIC is RED

[Eevee]

I'm still going to try Suit, it's mostly process of elimination and I think it could fit both clues. I'm having a hard time finding anything else for Hood.

[gkrieg13]

SUIT is BLUE

 

[Eevee]

sorry!

[Mic Qsenoch]

Neutral is playing so badly this game.

[Eevee]

We are like modern day Robin Hoods ourselves with Faust, giving words to the other team left and right.

[faust]

We are like modern day Robin Hoods ourselves with Faust, giving words to the other team left and right.

[eHalcyon]

Fatty: 2

[faust]

I want a new table before picking something.

CONCERT	THIEF	DANCE	OIL	PALM
PIN	KIWI	MEXICO	HORN	WASHINGTON
FALL	BACK	LINK	DUST	HAWK
CANADA	SUIT	SPINE	MOUNT	THUMB
ICE CREAM	HOSPITAL	PRESS	ALPS	COMIC

[faust]

Oil

[eHalcyon]

Oil

Blue

[faust]

So, the other one can go two ways... but I guess it should be Ice Cream

[eHalcyon]

So, the other one can go two ways... but I guess it should be Ice Cream

Also blue.  You have a guess remaining, if you want to use it.

[faust]

Well, I'm worried that that last word for homecoming was suit, so I'll pass. Also we have only two words left anyway! I'm sure you can come up with something.

[gkrieg13]

HERNIATED: 4

[Eevee]

spine

[gkrieg13]

SPINE is RED

[Eevee]

hospital

[gkrieg13]

HOSPITAL is RED

[Eevee]

press

[eHalcyon]

press

Press is neutral.

Sorry I can't update the grid right now, but

Hand: 2

[Eevee]

Sorry, I thought a herniated disc is pressing against something. 

[gkrieg13]

Sorry, I thought a herniated disc is pressing against something. 

It is. I had to go for a big clue though

[Eevee]

I thought it was very good!

[faust]

Palm

[eHalcyon]

Palm

Is Blue

[faust]

Thumb

[eHalcyon]

Thumb

Indeed.  And that's it for this one.

[faust]

Those were the things I thought about for fatty too, so fatty: 4 might have worked.

I imagine it would have been rather difficult if palm and thumb didn't have the same color.

[Eevee]

I would have guessed Thumb for herniated next, apparently the bulging disc can make your thumbs numb.. So we were really lost on this.

What were the words for robin hood and herniated?

[eHalcyon]

CONCERT	THIEF	DANCE	OIL	PALM
PIN	KIWI	MEXICO	HORN	WASHINGTON
FALL	BACK	LINK	DUST	HAWK
CANADA	SUIT	SPINE	MOUNT	THUMB
ICE CREAM	HOSPITAL	PRESS	ALPS	COMIC

Those were the things I thought about for fatty too, so fatty: 4 might have worked.

I imagine it would have been rather difficult if palm and thumb didn't have the same color.

I considered fat: 3 because "fat thumbs" is something that people sometimes talk about in reference to small touch screens, and I think small board game components too?  But I thought it was too big a stretch for Palm and it was fine to play it safe.  If they weren't the same colour, there were other options.  My first inclination upon seeing the grid was actually to pair Palm and Oil because they are right next to each other and palm oil is a thing.  So Palm could be something to do with palm trees.  Even if I wanted to stick with the body part, there are ways to get palm without thumb -- sweaty palms, slapping... As for thumb, there are thumb drives (USB could make a good clue for Mount and Thumb, though it might not count as one word), likes (Facebook thumbs up), thumbing through books... I think there would have been possibilities.  Having Palm and Thumb together did make it easier though, absolutely.

[eHalcyon]

I would have guessed Thumb for herniated next, apparently the bulging disc can make your thumbs numb.. So we were really lost on this.

What were the words for robin hood and herniated?

gkrieg said he was going for COMIC and HAWK.  I thought that Link might be one of them, since depictions of Robin Hood and Link from LoZ are kind of similar to me (heroic figure clad in green in forested area).

I'm not sure, but I think ZELDA may have been intended to hit Mount (Epona).

Herniated: 4 would have finished it, right?  The missing words were Pin and Mount.

[gkrieg13]

Ya I didn't have a good clue that didn't include thumb so I went for herniated on a whim

[eHalcyon]

Eevee or faust, randomize the next one?

[faust]

Alrighty.

Blue goes first

SHAKESPEARE	CHANGE	TEMPLE	BRAZIL	PRIVATE
ORGAN	MODEL	FLY	GLASS	FIGURE
PIRATE	FAIR	EAGLE	DRESS	POOL
PRICE	LAWYER	ALIEN	CHECK	SCALE
SPELL	NURSE	PARK	TAG	TEACHER

[faust]

Will need to think a bit.

[faust]

Didn't take as long as I thought.

Female: 3

[eHalcyon]

Dress

[faust]

Dress is blue.

[eHalcyon]

Will guess Nurse even though there are male nurses.

[silverspawn]

Will guess Nurse even though there are male nurses.

There are also dresses for males 

[eHalcyon]

Will guess Nurse even though there are male nurses.

There are also dresses for males 

Yeah, but that seems much less common outside of Scotland.

[faust]

Nurse is blue

[eHalcyon]

Likewise will guess Model.  Then I'll pass.

[faust]

Model is blue as well

[Eevee]

Catholic: 3

Sorry, can't update the grid at all, I have only phone access all week.

[faust]

SHAKESPEARE	CHANGE	TEMPLE	BRAZIL	PRIVATE
ORGAN	MODEL	FLY	GLASS	FIGURE
PIRATE	FAIR	EAGLE	DRESS	POOL
PRICE	LAWYER	ALIEN	CHECK	SCALE
SPELL	NURSE	PARK	TAG	TEACHER

[gkrieg13]

temple

[Eevee]

red!

[gkrieg13]

organ

[faust]

Organ is red as well.

[gkrieg13]

BRAZIL

[faust]

Also red.

[gkrieg13]

pass

[faust]

SHAKESPEARE	CHANGE	TEMPLE	BRAZIL	PRIVATE
ORGAN	MODEL	FLY	GLASS	FIGURE
PIRATE	FAIR	EAGLE	DRESS	POOL
PRICE	LAWYER	ALIEN	CHECK	SCALE
SPELL	NURSE	PARK	TAG	TEACHER

Air Force: 3

[eHalcyon]

I don't think that counts as a proper noun?  I'm not sure.

[faust]

I don't think that counts as a proper noun?  I'm not sure.

Uh I wasn't exactly sure about the rules... there have been multi-word clue before, no? Sorry if I messed up, but giving another tip would be stupid now, right? We could do some compensation like reveal a random red word if you feel it's against the rules. Anyway it's a single noun in German

[gkrieg13]

I think it counts as a proper noun

[eHalcyon]

I don't think that counts as a proper noun?  I'm not sure.

Uh I wasn't exactly sure about the rules... there have been multi-word clue before, no? Sorry if I messed up, but giving another tip would be stupid now, right? We could do some compensation like reveal a random red word if you feel it's against the rules. Anyway it's a single noun in German

Multiple words are only allowed for proper nouns, i.e. a specific thing, like a book title or a specific person or place.

Eevee will have to decide whether to call for a penalty or not.  I can't check right now but I think the rule book recommendation is immediate turn end and flip a word of opposing spy master's choice.

But FWIW, I only see one obvious word anyway.

PPE: it's not a proper noun because there are different air forces out there, right?

[Jack Rudd]

A neutral watching the game says: I'd be happy with an opposing spymaster saying "Air Force".

[faust]

PPE: it's not a proper noun because there are different air forces out there, right?

So if I named a specific air force, that would have been allowed, even though it conveys more information?

[eHalcyon]

PPE: it's not a proper noun because there are different air forces out there, right?

So if I named a specific air force, that would have been allowed, even though it conveys more information?

Yeah.  Note that conveying more specific info can be a disadvantage in Codenames.

Since multiple people have chimed in with approval, I'll just go ahead and put in the obvious guess:

Fly

Depending on Weber's take, we can retroactively penalize if necessary.

[Eevee]

No penalty of course. Next time err on the side of being strict if it's close seems plenty fair.

[gkrieg13]

I think the ultimate rule is just to ask the spymaster of the other team

[eHalcyon]

Depending on Weber's take

That was supposed to be "Eevee", of course.  That autocorrect.

[faust]

Thanks Eevee!

Fly is blue of course.

[eHalcyon]

Private, as in the military rank

[faust]

It's blue.

[eHalcyon]

I've got like 3 maybes here...

Gonna try Eagle, thinking specifically of the USAF.

[faust]

Also blue.

[eHalcyon]

Well then, I pass!

[faust]

SHAKESPEARE	CHANGE	TEMPLE	BRAZIL	PRIVATE
ORGAN	MODEL	FLY	GLASS	FIGURE
PIRATE	FAIR	EAGLE	DRESS	POOL
PRICE	LAWYER	ALIEN	CHECK	SCALE
SPELL	NURSE	PARK	TAG	TEACHER

[Eevee]

green: 2

[ipofanes]

A neutral watching the game says: I'd be happy with an opposing spymaster saying "Air Force".

The German rules frown at the German practice of chaining nouns out of thin air.

[Eevee]

we've resigned to playing in english with my finnish friends for this reason. you can chain almost any two words together in finnish and it's grammatically correct. makes the game less interesting.

[faust]

A neutral watching the game says: I'd be happy with an opposing spymaster saying "Air Force".

The German rules frown at the German practice of chaining nouns out of thin air.

I think common practice for such games is to require the word to be included in the "Duden". (a standard dictionary for the German language) Of course I haven't seen the German ruleset for this particular game.

[gkrieg13]

Alien

[Eevee]

is red

[gkrieg13]

Park

[Eevee]

red!

[gkrieg13]

Pass

[faust]

SHAKESPEARE	CHANGE	TEMPLE	BRAZIL	PRIVATE
ORGAN	MODEL	FLY	GLASS	FIGURE
PIRATE	FAIR	EAGLE	DRESS	POOL
PRICE	LAWYER	ALIEN	CHECK	SCALE
SPELL	NURSE	PARK	TAG	TEACHER

[faust]

Metamorphoses: 3

[eHalcyon]

Wow, what a clue.  I hope it works out.

Change is the obvious one.

[faust]

I hope it works out.

Me too.

Change is blue.

[eHalcyon]

Shakespeare by way of Ovid

[Eevee]

Blue


drumroll!

[eHalcyon]

I'm split on two.  My guess will be... metamorphosis involves a changing Figure

[gkrieg13]

You aren't all about the Pirate metamorphosis?

[Eevee]

figure is neutral

[Eevee]

adventures: 3

[faust]

SHAKESPEARE	CHANGE	TEMPLE	BRAZIL	PRIVATE
ORGAN	MODEL	FLY	GLASS	FIGURE
PIRATE	FAIR	EAGLE	DRESS	POOL
PRICE	LAWYER	ALIEN	CHECK	SCALE
SPELL	NURSE	PARK	TAG	TEACHER

[gkrieg13]

teacher

[faust]

Is red.

[gkrieg13]

fair

[faust]

Also red.

[gkrieg13]

Pirate for the win?

[faust]

Yep. Well played.

[Mic Qsenoch]

Nice game

[Eevee]

Amazing job gkrieg! Very well done.

[eHalcyon]

Great job.  Good game!

Was the last blue Spell?

[Eevee]

It was glass.

Edit:

Here's the next one!

Blue goes first

SHAKESPEARE	CHANGE	TEMPLE	BRAZIL	PRIVATE
ORGAN	MODEL	FLY	GLASS	FIGURE
PIRATE	FAIR	EAGLE	DRESS	POOL
PRICE	LAWYER	ALIEN	CHECK	SCALE
SPELL	NURSE	PARK	TAG	TEACHER

[eHalcyon]

Hmmm, I can see that now, though I wonder if there's any big concept I missed that makes that a stronger connection.

gkrieg, do you want to randomize the next one.  I'll do it in a few hours if you haven't by then.

[faust]

Hmmm, I can see that now, though I wonder if there's any big concept I missed that makes that a stronger connection.

No, there isn't really. But I couldn't think of a better clue and figure and spell were both neutral, so you guessing them would not have been too bad.

[arcee]

This has been a very entertaining set to read/follow.  I think 2v2 is probably better for PbP, it's so fast.

[Eevee]

Guys, we are a hit!

[eHalcyon]

Blue goes first

BEES	BEES	BEES	BEES	BEES
BEES	BEES	BEES	BEES	BEES
BEES	BEES	BEES	BEES	BEES
BEES	BEES	BEES	BEES	BEES
BEES	BEES	BEES	BEES	BEES

Honey: 9

[faust]

Oh man, this is hard.

[gkrieg13]

It was glass.

Edit:

Here's the next one!

Blue goes first

SHAKESPEARE	CHANGE	TEMPLE	BRAZIL	PRIVATE
ORGAN	MODEL	FLY	GLASS	FIGURE
PIRATE	FAIR	EAGLE	DRESS	POOL
PRICE	LAWYER	ALIEN	CHECK	SCALE
SPELL	NURSE	PARK	TAG	TEACHER

I was guessing spell for the last one.

[faust]

I thought that a triple Shakespeare-Change-Spell would have resulted in a different clue that has something to do with language. Maybe Klingon: 3 or something.

[gkrieg13]

Sorry I only have a phone for the next few days. Hard to randomize

[eHalcyon]

Was going to wait for faust to guess on the Bee puzzle, but I guess it's no longer April 1.

Red goes first

CHECK	CELL	KETCHUP	CREAM	POLE
DICE	PAN	DOCTOR	TRIANGLE	SHOP
BEAT	WATER	AMBULANCE	LAWYER	GROUND
HOLE	TIME	MAIL	STOCK	ROME
SCALE	FOREST	ROPE	POST	TOOTH

Edit: wrong board somehow.  This is not the puzzle!

[gkrieg13]

flight: 4

[Eevee]

ground

[gkrieg13]

Wait a second..

eHalcyon definitely sent me a different key than the one he posted..

I have no idea what color ground is

[gkrieg13]

 RED goes first

FIGHTER	TRIP	LITTER	SUB	KANGAROO
EMBASSY	DUST	CRANE	DISEASE	CRICKET
MOUSE	LINE	EARTH	APPLE	PIZZA
SPRING	CANADA	BILL	ROBIN	WITCH
CARD	ROW	SETTLE	SOUL	SLUG

Much better

[eHalcyon]

Uh, I guess the spreadsheet must have refreshed in between the posts or something.  Sorry!

[Eevee]

trip

[eHalcyon]

trip

Is Red

[Eevee]

row

[eHalcyon]

row

I'm afraid that's Blue!  I guess you were thinking of rows on an airplane?

Australians: 3

[Eevee]

Yeah, where else do you encounter rows? :| Sorry gkrieg, I must be a frustrating teammate.

[faust]

Sorry, this sort of slipped my mind.

Kangaroo

[eHalcyon]

Sorry, this sort of slipped my mind.

Kangaroo

Is blue

[faust]

Cricket

[eHalcyon]

Cricket

Also blue

[faust]

Last one is trickier... but I think I'm going to Settle for this. And pass.

[eHalcyon]

Is blue.

FIGHTER	TRIP	LITTER	SUB	KANGAROO
EMBASSY	DUST	CRANE	DISEASE	CRICKET
MOUSE	LINE	EARTH	APPLE	PIZZA
SPRING	CANADA	BILL	ROBIN	WITCH
CARD	ROW	SETTLE	SOUL	SLUG

Red's turn.

[faust]

gkrieg?

[gkrieg13]

DECOMPOSING: 3

[Eevee]

Apple

[gkrieg13]

Is red

[Eevee]

crane

[gkrieg13]

Is neutral

[eHalcyon]

Coil: 2

[faust]

Sub

[gkrieg13]

SUB is RED!!!

[faust]

SUB is RED!!!

We all have to mess up some time 

[gkrieg13]

FIGHTER	TRIP	LITTER	SUB	KANGAROO
EMBASSY	DUST	CRANE	DISEASE	CRICKET
MOUSE	LINE	EARTH	APPLE	PIZZA
SPRING	CANADA	BILL	ROBIN	WITCH
CARD	ROW	SETTLE	SOUL	SLUG

Red's turn.

[gkrieg13]

CRIME: 3

[eHalcyon]

Sub

Gotta say, I don't see the connection for this one.

[Eevee]

Litter

[gkrieg13]

LITTER is RED

[Eevee]

Robin

[gkrieg13]

ROBIN is RED

[Eevee]

fighter

[gkrieg13]

Is red

[Eevee]

Mouse

[gkrieg13]

MOUSE is NEUTRAL

[gkrieg13]

Great run Eevee!

[silverspawn]

If I may

FIGHTER	TRIP	LITTER	SUB	KANGAROO
EMBASSY	DUST	CRANE	DISEASE	CRICKET
MOUSE	LINE	EARTH	APPLE	PIZZA
SPRING	CANADA	BILL	ROBIN	WITCH
CARD	ROW	SETTLE	SOUL	SLUG

Blue's turn.

[gkrieg13]

If I may

FIGHTER	TRIP	LITTER	SUB	KANGAROO
EMBASSY	DUST	CRANE	DISEASE	CRICKET
MOUSE	LINE	EARTH	APPLE	PIZZA
SPRING	CANADA	BILL	ROBIN	WITCH
CARD	ROW	SETTLE	SOUL	SLUG

Blue's turn.

You must be excited to spectate!

[eHalcyon]

Suddenly overtaken!

OK then... Hag: Unlimited

[faust]

Card

[eHalcyon]

Card

Blue

[faust]

Witch

[gkrieg13]

Witch

also blue

[faust]

Spring

[eHalcyon]

Spring

Is Blue.

But can you get the last one?

[faust]

That is the question. Unfortunately, I don't have a great handle on the word "coil"... like I know roughly what it means, but not the common usages. That is why I messed up earlier I think. Still, let me try...

[faust]

Well, uh. Let's try this.

Disease

[eHalcyon]

Well, uh. Let's try this.

Disease

Red!  I guess you were thinking of shuffling off this mortal coil?  I was worried about that.

[faust]

I was actually thinking about coils being used in medicine. I have done community service at a hospital where they used these kinds of things.

[eHalcyon]

Red, it's your turn!  You're within striking distance!

[gkrieg13]

sorry I forgot to mark this as unread.  I'm coming up with a clue now

[gkrieg13]

FIGHTER	TRIP	LITTER	SUB	KANGAROO
EMBASSY	DUST	CRANE	DISEASE	CRICKET
MOUSE	LINE	EARTH	APPLE	PIZZA
SPRING	CANADA	BILL	ROBIN	WITCH
CARD	ROW	SETTLE	SOUL	SLUG

INTELLIGENCE: 2

[Eevee]

earth

[gkrieg13]

earth

Is unfortunately neutral

[silverspawn]

Interesting 

[eHalcyon]

Straight: 1

[Eevee]

gg's, was really sure about that too!

[gkrieg13]

gg's, was really sure about that too!

The last couple of words were hard for me to put together

[faust]

Line

[Eevee]

Embassy and slug were our words then I guess?

[eHalcyon]

Line is blue!

Embassy and Soul were the last red words.

Speaking of which, we should decide whether to allow homophone-based clues.  I thought the rule was a hard no, but it is actually in the variants part of the rules and we just failed to discuss it here.  If it's allowed, Red should have locked in the win with gkrieg's original clue, which was South Korea: 2.

[faust]

I prefer to disallow such clues.

[Eevee]

Funny, the city is called Soul in finnish. No opposition to disallowing those clues from me.

[ipofanes]

Funny, the city is called Soul in finnish.

Finns doing it right. I wonder what the significance of the "e" is.

[faust]

So new round? We didn't really reach a conclusion on the rules issue.

[Eevee]

New round!

[faust]

The man has spoken!

Red goes first

GREEN	HAWK	NINJA	TURKEY	MAPLE
FARM	CLIFF	MILLIONAIRE	MOSCOW	BRIDGE
JACK	DOOR	MOUSE	FINGER	BARK
KID	VAN	STAR	HORN	RULER
VACUUM	DIAMOND	SHOT	WATER	PASTE

[eHalcyon]

So new round? We didn't really reach a conclusion on the rules issue.

No homophones, I think.

[gkrieg13]

So new round? We didn't really reach a conclusion on the rules issue.

No homophones, I think.

Sounds good to me, although I really like homophones

[Eevee]

Cucumber: 3

[gkrieg13]

green

[Eevee]

green is red

[gkrieg13]

Farm

[Eevee]

red

[gkrieg13]

Water

[faust]

Water is red

[gkrieg13]

That is some weird water on a normal farm that doesn't know its colors

Pass

[faust]

That is some weird water on a normal farm that doesn't know its colors

Pass

The farm is near Flint, Michigan.

[faust]

Ring: 3

[eHalcyon]

Diamond

[Eevee]

is blue

[eHalcyon]

Finger

[faust]

finger is blue

[eHalcyon]

OK, will go with Door.  Pass after this.

[faust]

Door is neutral.

Well, I knew this was a trap, but neutral isn't that bad I thought.

[Eevee]

Pluto: 4

Sorry, on mobile so can't create an updated grid.

[arcee]

I forget what you did for neutrals.

GREEN	HAWK	NINJA	TURKEY	MAPLE
FARM	CLIFF	MILLIONAIRE	MOSCOW	BRIDGE
JACK	DOOR	MOUSE	FINGER	BARK
KID	VAN	STAR	HORN	RULER
VACUUM	DIAMOND	SHOT	WATER	PASTE

[eHalcyon]

Thanks!  We use pink for neutrals.

GREEN	HAWK	NINJA	TURKEY	MAPLE
FARM	CLIFF	MILLIONAIRE	MOSCOW	BRIDGE
JACK	DOOR	MOUSE	FINGER	BARK
KID	VAN	STAR	HORN	RULER
VACUUM	DIAMOND	SHOT	WATER	PASTE

[gkrieg13]

Star

[Eevee]

star is red

[gkrieg13]

Ruler

[Eevee]

is blue.

i was unaware of that connection, my baddd

[faust]

GREEN	HAWK	NINJA	TURKEY	MAPLE
FARM	CLIFF	MILLIONAIRE	MOSCOW	BRIDGE
JACK	DOOR	MOUSE	FINGER	BARK
KID	VAN	STAR	HORN	RULER
VACUUM	DIAMOND	SHOT	WATER	PASTE

[faust]

Hmm...

let's try Little Boy: 3

[gkrieg13]

Hmm...

let's try Little Boy: 3

One word clues

[eHalcyon]

Hmm...

let's try Little Boy: 3

One word clues

Well, Little Boy was the codename of  the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima in WWII.  Not sure if that counts as a proper noun (more were manufactured) but it is also the name of a 2015 war film as a reference to the bomb, as well as the main character who is a little boy.

Should I take my guess?  The spy masters should talk this one out...

[gkrieg13]

Hmm...

let's try Little Boy: 3

One word clues

Well, Little Boy was the codename of  the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima in WWII.  Not sure if that counts as a proper noun (more were manufactured) but it is also the name of a 2015 war film as a reference to the bomb, as well as the main character who is a little boy.

Should I take my guess?  The spy masters should talk this one out...

Going again with the homophone stuff (I realize this is slightly different), I would say that it couldn't have references to little boys, and I see that many of the words definitely are associated with that part of the clue as compared to the bomb part of the clue.

[eHalcyon]

Hmm...

let's try Little Boy: 3

One word clues

Well, Little Boy was the codename of  the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima in WWII.  Not sure if that counts as a proper noun (more were manufactured) but it is also the name of a 2015 war film as a reference to the bomb, as well as the main character who is a little boy.

Should I take my guess?  The spy masters should talk this one out...

Going again with the homophone stuff (I realize this is slightly different), I would say that it couldn't have references to little boys, and I see that many of the words definitely are associated with that part of the clue as compared to the bomb part of the clue.

I would base my guesses on what little I know of the bomb and the movie.

[faust]

Well I don't want to say too much as to not give hints. I'll wait for Eevee.

[Eevee]

I would accept that as a proper noun.

[eHalcyon]

OK, my first guess has to be Kid.  Of course this is influenced by the non-proper noun interpretation of the clue (can't get around that) but it's justifiable by the movie's main character.

[faust]

Kid is blue

[eHalcyon]

Horn, which is slang for telephone.

[faust]

Horn is neutral :/

[eHalcyon]

Horn is neutral :/

Ahh, sorry.

[Eevee]

Anadol: 2

[gkrieg13]

GREEN	HAWK	NINJA	TURKEY	MAPLE
FARM	CLIFF	MILLIONAIRE	MOSCOW	BRIDGE
JACK	DOOR	MOUSE	FINGER	BARK
KID	VAN	STAR	HORN	RULER
VACUUM	DIAMOND	SHOT	WATER	PASTE

[gkrieg13]

turkey

[Eevee]

red

[gkrieg13]

VAN

[Eevee]

red

[gkrieg13]

BARK  because of pluto the dog

[Eevee]

Yeah, I realized what a horrible clue that was the second I clicked post..

It's blue.

[eHalcyon]

Yeah, I realized what a horrible clue that was the second I clicked post..

It's blue.

Oh wow.  I've been with gkrieg on this one the whole way.  Star, Ruler and Bark were all on my list of possible Pluto words.

[Eevee]

Not such a genius clue I thought it might be..

[faust]

GREEN	HAWK	NINJA	TURKEY	MAPLE
FARM	CLIFF	MILLIONAIRE	MOSCOW	BRIDGE
JACK	DOOR	MOUSE	FINGER	BARK
KID	VAN	STAR	HORN	RULER
VACUUM	DIAMOND	SHOT	WATER	PASTE

Hunting: 2

[faust]

This is definitely one of our more dramatic rounds.

[eHalcyon]

Will start with Hawk, for the most obvious Hunting reference.

[faust]

It's blue.

[eHalcyon]

Shot, which is hunting-related and could possibly have been intended for ring ("shots ring out").

[Eevee]

blue

[eHalcyon]

It's a big stretch, but I'm going to guess Little Boy > WWII > Cold War > Moscow

[Eevee]

it's blue!

[faust]

Yay we won! I guess my clues weren't too great this game... I mean you could have easily gone Little Boy -> Hiroshima -> Japan -> Ninja on that last one.

[faust]

And my third "ring" clue was also a stretch I suppose.

[Eevee]

This game was such a mess. My Pluto clue really messed us up.

[gkrieg13]

This game was such a mess. My Pluto clue really messed us up.

Ya what were you going for with that one?

[Eevee]

Mouse (Mickey Mouse's pet), star (both celestial objects), vacuum (pluto is in outer space, that's a vacuum) and .. I don't understand why I said 4, maybe a missclick? Embarassing. 

[eHalcyon]

Mouse (Mickey Mouse's pet), star (both celestial objects), vacuum (pluto is in outer space, that's a vacuum) and .. I don't understand why I said 4, maybe a missclick? Embarassing. 

FWIW, Mouse and Vacuum were also on my list for Pluto.

So was Ring for Shot like I thought?  And what was the third Little Boy word?  Also Shot, connected by way of artillery?

gkrieg, can you make the next one?

[gkrieg13]

Mouse (Mickey Mouse's pet), star (both celestial objects), vacuum (pluto is in outer space, that's a vacuum) and .. I don't understand why I said 4, maybe a missclick? Embarassing. 

FWIW, Mouse and Vacuum were also on my list for Pluto.

So was Ring for Shot like I thought?  And what was the third Little Boy word?  Also Shot, connected by way of artillery?

gkrieg, can you make the next one?

I was going to guess Mouse if Bark was one of the clues

[faust]

Mouse (Mickey Mouse's pet), star (both celestial objects), vacuum (pluto is in outer space, that's a vacuum) and .. I don't understand why I said 4, maybe a missclick? Embarassing. 

FWIW, Mouse and Vacuum were also on my list for Pluto.

So was Ring for Shot like I thought?  And what was the third Little Boy word?  Also Shot, connected by way of artillery?

gkrieg, can you make the next one?

Ring was for ruler... as in "one ring to rule them all". Little Boy was for shot, yes.

[eHalcyon]

Ahh, right.  I did think of that after it flipped, but forgot.

[gkrieg13]

Do we want to go again?  We could switch up teams, or who is spymaster with whom etc

[faust]

I'm in, and also fine with switching teams.

[Eevee]

I'm in for more, switching it up a little sounds fun too.

[eHalcyon]

Sure!

[gkrieg13]

My team is 1 for Faust, 2 for eHalcyon

Rolled 1d2 : 1, total 1

[gkrieg13]

1 for me and eevee as spymasters, 2 for the others

Rolled 1d2 : 2, total 2

[Eevee]

Let's go Team E!


.. or is it Team e!

[eHalcyon]

I was actually hoping to just pair with Eevee, since he would be a new teammate for me.

Edit: oh wait, it rolled that way anyway.  Cool.

[Eevee]

I think you can go ahead and start the game.

[eHalcyon]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TXkY5snm_uhZQNYvGqwrLSHjuHARIZouOP5pBEWRMXA/edit#gid=0

silverspawn, if you're still reading, could you edit this link into the OP so it's easy to find?

Red goes first

GROUND	PLANE	PHOENIX	RIVER	CAKE
BERLIN	BERMUDA	MATCH	PRIVATE	TOOTH
FOOT	BEIJING	CRANE	SQUARE	PAN
PRINCESS	BATTERY	TUBE	MINE	ROME
TRUNK	COTTON	CHINA	TRIANGLE	VALLEY

Eevee and I will be {1 = red, 2 = blue}

Rolled 1d2 : 1, total 1

[eHalcyon]

Yangtze: 3

[Eevee]

Beijing

[eHalcyon]

Beijing

Red

[Eevee]

River

[eHalcyon]

River

Red

[Eevee]

China and pass.

Sorry for getting these in the worst order possible.

[eHalcyon]

China and pass.

Sorry for getting these in the worst order possible.

Also red.

I already feel bad for having such an easy start.

[silverspawn]

silverspawn, if you're still reading, could you edit this link into the OP so it's easy to find?

I can!

[faust]

Soldier: 3

[gkrieg13]

Foot

[eHalcyon]

Foot

Blue

[gkrieg13]

Plane

[faust]

Well, Plane is the assassin... I guess that was a short round.

[faust]

Full grid:

GROUND	PLANE	PHOENIX	RIVER	CAKE
BERLIN	BERMUDA	MATCH	PRIVATE	TOOTH
FOOT	BEIJING	CRANE	SQUARE	PAN
PRINCESS	BATTERY	TUBE	MINE	ROME
TRUNK	COTTON	CHINA	TRIANGLE	VALLEY

Honestly, I didn't feel like we haad much of a chance here anyway.

[gkrieg13]

Full grid:

GROUND	PLANE	PHOENIX	RIVER	CAKE
BERLIN	BERMUDA	MATCH	PRIVATE	TOOTH
FOOT	BEIJING	CRANE	SQUARE	PAN
PRINCESS	BATTERY	TUBE	MINE	ROME
TRUNK	COTTON	CHINA	TRIANGLE	VALLEY

Honestly, I didn't feel like we haad much of a chance here anyway.

Yay for assassin words!  Private was gonna be my next guess and I debated ground

[Eevee]

Blue goes first

CAT	COLD	PLOT	PIRATE	DWARF
BLOCK	CAKE	BRAZIL	FAIR	TUBA
HAND	SCIENTIST	WATER	MOSCOW	FORCE
VACUUM	TRACK	KID	PIE	BAT
MICROSCOPE	SOUL	BUFFALO	CHEST	BEIJING

[gkrieg13]

HOT: 4

[faust]

Cold

[gkrieg13]

Cold

Is blue

[faust]

Brazil

[gkrieg13]

Brazil

Also blue

[faust]

Pie, as in Hot Pie from GoT. Also pie is hot generally I guess. But mainly Game of Thrones!

[gkrieg13]

Is red 

[Eevee]

Game of Thrones: 3

[silverspawn]

Game of Thrones

[eHalcyon]

CAT	COLD	PLOT	PIRATE	DWARF
BLOCK	CAKE	BRAZIL	FAIR	TUBA
HAND	SCIENTIST	WATER	MOSCOW	FORCE
VACUUM	TRACK	KID	PIE	BAT
MICROSCOPE	SOUL	BUFFALO	CHEST	BEIJING

I guess that might have been a 4 clue if Pie hadn't flipped already?  Not sure if I would have gotten Pie for that though.

Dwarf

[Eevee]

It was under consideration, although cold worried me a little (I think that's about on par with pie as far as obscurity of associations go). I probably would have gone with something else altogether. Hopefully I didn't accidentally give any hints with the commentary while the game is still going.

Dwarf is red.

[eHalcyon]

Hand

[Eevee]

Hand is red.


edit: I tried to think of something funny with red-handed, but since it's actually a good thing you "caught me", I couldn't come up with anything.

[eHalcyon]

Plot

[Eevee]

What did I do? O___O

Yeah, easy come, easy go.

Blue goes first

CAT	COLD	PLOT	PIRATE	DWARF
BLOCK	CAKE	BRAZIL	FAIR	TUBA
HAND	SCIENTIST	WATER	MOSCOW	FORCE
VACUUM	TRACK	KID	PIE	BAT
MICROSCOPE	SOUL	BUFFALO	CHEST	BEIJING

It works in two levels too, what a special clue I came up with. Oh dear.

[eHalcyon]

Aww.  So it was supposed to be Cat?

[Eevee]

Yeah, for Catelyn. I'm embarrassed, I went through all the blue and neutral words thinking of possible connections, guess I completely skipped the green one. Bleh!

[silverspawn]

well, I would have guessed plot as my first try 

Too bad, I liked the clue.

[faust]

I'll be gone over the weekend and can't access here. If someone (silver?) wants to step in for the time being, that's fine by me.

[eHalcyon]

I'll be gone over the weekend and can't access here. If someone (silver?) wants to step in for the time being, that's fine by me.

Does that mean you don't want to start the next one yourself?  It's not the weekend yet!

[gkrieg13]

Well we played two games in less than a day right?

[faust]

I'll be gone over the weekend and can't access here. If someone (silver?) wants to step in for the time being, that's fine by me.

Does that mean you don't want to start the next one yourself?  It's not the weekend yet!

Well, I'll leave in 3 hours... I kinda doubt that's enough time

[silverspawn]

I still prefer speccing. Anyone else maybe?

[arcee]

I can join.  fair warning: I'll never give a multi-word clue as spymaster, but I won't yell at you for doing so.

[eHalcyon]

I can join.  fair warning: I'll never give a multi-word clue as spymaster, but I won't yell at you for doing so.

If you're up for it, you can make the next game now.

[arcee]

Blue goes first

SERVER	NET	THEATER	NEW YORK	COMPOUND
QUEEN	RING	NIGHT	BUGLE	SLIP
HORSESHOE	TUBA	WINTER	BED	LETTER
SPOT	PALM	SPINE	CAP	ROBIN
SHOP	COVER	BAND	CASINO	PAPER

sending the grid to eHalcyon, hopefully the same one.

[arcee]

and assuming teams didn't change otherwise (so me with gkrieg13 as blue and the two Es together as red).

PERSEPHONE: 3

[gkrieg13]

QUEEN

[arcee]

QUEEN is blue.

[gkrieg13]

Winter

[arcee]

WINTER is blue.

[gkrieg13]

Night and pass if necessary

[arcee]

Night is neutral, red team up.

SERVER	NET	THEATER	NEW YORK	COMPOUND
QUEEN	RING	NIGHT	BUGLE	SLIP
HORSESHOE	TUBA	WINTER	BED	LETTER
SPOT	PALM	SPINE	CAP	ROBIN
SHOP	COVER	BAND	CASINO	PAPER

[eHalcyon]

Pen: 3

[Eevee]

paper

[arcee]

PAPER is red

[Eevee]

cap

[eHalcyon]

cap

Red

[Eevee]

letter and pass

[eHalcyon]

Also red.

SERVER	NET	THEATER	NEW YORK	COMPOUND
QUEEN	RING	NIGHT	BUGLE	SLIP
HORSESHOE	TUBA	WINTER	BED	LETTER
SPOT	PALM	SPINE	CAP	ROBIN
SHOP	COVER	BAND	CASINO	PAPER

Blue is up!

[arcee]

JAMESON: 2

[gkrieg13]

Theater

[arcee]

Theatre is neutral, red team up!

SERVER	NET	THEATER	NEW YORK	COMPOUND
QUEEN	RING	NIGHT	BUGLE	SLIP
HORSESHOE	TUBA	WINTER	BED	LETTER
SPOT	PALM	SPINE	CAP	ROBIN
SHOP	COVER	BAND	CASINO	PAPER

[eHalcyon]

Cash: 2

[Eevee]

let's try casino

[silverspawn]

cash yes, but for whom?

[arcee]

For red!

[Eevee]

spot

[Eevee]

spot

instant regret 

[eHalcyon]

spot

instant regret 

It is red.

[Eevee]

Whii!

Pass

[arcee]

SERVER	NET	THEATER	NEW YORK	COMPOUND
QUEEN	RING	NIGHT	BUGLE	SLIP
HORSESHOE	TUBA	WINTER	BED	LETTER
SPOT	PALM	SPINE	CAP	ROBIN
SHOP	COVER	BAND	CASINO	PAPER

BLACKBERRY: unlimited

[gkrieg13]

Server

[arcee]

SERVER is blue.

[gkrieg13]

Net

[arcee]

Net Neutrality.  Red is up.

SERVER	NET	THEATER	NEW YORK	COMPOUND
QUEEN	RING	NIGHT	BUGLE	SLIP
HORSESHOE	TUBA	WINTER	BED	LETTER
SPOT	PALM	SPINE	CAP	ROBIN
SHOP	COVER	BAND	CASINO	PAPER

At least I'm not steering towards red/assassins.

[gkrieg13]

Sorry we can't get on the same page for some reason

[arcee]

After the game I can tell you what I meant and you can see how silly my connections are

[gkrieg13]

Well it looks like we will need another unlimited clue next time.

[eHalcyon]

Barracks: 2

[Eevee]

Bugle

[eHalcyon]

Bugle

Blue, sorry!

[Eevee]

Oh!

[arcee]

SERVER	NET	THEATER	NEW YORK	COMPOUND
QUEEN	RING	NIGHT	BUGLE	SLIP
HORSESHOE	TUBA	WINTER	BED	LETTER
SPOT	PALM	SPINE	CAP	ROBIN
SHOP	COVER	BAND	CASINO	PAPER

HERNIA:2

[gkrieg13]

Spine

[arcee]

SPINE is red, and by red I mean blue.

[gkrieg13]

Slip

[arcee]

SLIP is blue.

Also, we both mistook red for blue in my last post (SPINE is on our side).

[gkrieg13]

No problem. I was red last time and was sure that was one of our words.

Palm?

[arcee]

PALM is blue, red team up!

SERVER	NET	THEATER	NEW YORK	COMPOUND
QUEEN	RING	NIGHT	BUGLE	SLIP
HORSESHOE	TUBA	WINTER	BED	LETTER
SPOT	PALM	SPINE	CAP	ROBIN
SHOP	COVER	BAND	CASINO	PAPER

[eHalcyon]

Let's try... Commissary: 2

[Eevee]

robin

[arcee]

Robins aren't red, they're blue!

SERVER	NET	THEATER	NEW YORK	COMPOUND
QUEEN	RING	NIGHT	BUGLE	SLIP
HORSESHOE	TUBA	WINTER	BED	LETTER
SPOT	PALM	SPINE	CAP	ROBIN
SHOP	COVER	BAND	CASINO	PAPER

MANHATTAN: 1

[Eevee]

Well this has taken a sad turn! Wow.

[gkrieg13]

New York!

[eHalcyon]

New York!

Is Blue.  That's game!  Good rally.

@Eevee, Cash was actually intended for Shop, not Spot.  I'm guessing you were thinking like, "can you spot me?"  But Spot turned out to be ours anyway.  Barracks was Bed and Compound, and I Commissary was for Shop and Compound (prison).  I understand the Bugle choice, but I'm not seeing the Robin one.

[gkrieg13]

Wow that game was a struggle for both sides. Very fun though. What was the Jameson clue?

[eHalcyon]

Wow that game was a struggle for both sides. Very fun though. What was the Jameson clue?

I'm pretty sure it was a reference to J. Jonah Jameson from Spiderman. He works at the Daily Bugle in New York.

If we hadn't flipped Robin for you, I think Batman would have been a good clue for Robin and New York.

[arcee]

Yeah, that's what Jameson was - a little easier IRL as I can pronounce it with three syllables instead of two.  I realised afterwards I could have stretched it to 3: a SERVER brings you Jameson whiskey at a bar.

I was planning "Hood" for New York / Robin, as I usually see Gotham as a Chicago analogue to Metropolis' New York.

Persephone's third was "slip" (she erred in eating).  I thought Night might be guessed first but it was neutral so whatever.  Blackberry was for Palm (the older handheld computer).

Great game!  Bugle was a lucky catch, that would have been hard to add to our remaining words since it seemed clear that JJJ had missed.

[gkrieg13]

Yeah, that's what Jameson was - a little easier IRL as I can pronounce it with three syllables instead of two.  I realised afterwards I could have stretched it to 3: a SERVER brings you Jameson whiskey at a bar.

I was planning "Hood" for New York / Robin, as I usually see Gotham as a Chicago analogue to Metropolis' New York.

Persephone's third was "slip" (she erred in eating).  I thought Night might be guessed first but it was neutral so whatever.  Blackberry was for Palm (the older handheld computer).

Great game!  Bugle was a lucky catch, that would have been hard to add to our remaining words since it seemed clear that JJJ had missed.

My problem was that I wasn't familiar with Spider-Man or Mythology

[Eevee]

I had to google what commissary means, and the first thing I got was "deputy or delegate", which I thought Robin could be to Batman, so that was that. My second guess for barracks was going to be cover, so it was definitely looking bleak for us whatever happened. I thought bugle was a name for the military horn as well.

[eHalcyon]

I had to google what commissary means, and the first thing I got was "deputy or delegate", which I thought Robin could be to Batman, so that was that. My second guess for barracks was going to be cover, so it was definitely looking bleak for us whatever happened. I thought bugle was a name for the military horn as well.

Yeah, I should have considered Bugle a trap.  My bad for sure.

I thought the most well known definition for commissary would be the prison shop thanks to Orange is the New Black.  Sorry about that!

[Eevee]

Haven't seen one episode. Language barrier problems, no worries! Nothing you could have predicted. I'll rand for new words.

[Eevee]

Red goes first

MOON	BOLT	APPLE	SATELLITE	DEATH
FIGURE	FARM	SPIDER	SILVER	KID
RING	BERRY	QUEEN	VACUUM	SOUND
GOLD	WATER	ROBIN	UNICORN	HOOD
PAN	LUCK	COMIC	EGYPT	STICK

                                                      

[Eevee]

Cleopatra: 4

[eHalcyon]

Well, let's start with the obvious ones.

Egypt

[Eevee]

red

[eHalcyon]

Queen

[Eevee]

red

[eHalcyon]

Gold?

[Eevee]

red!

[eHalcyon]

Death?

[Eevee]

red

[eHalcyon]

Well, I guess I pass then.  Good clue!

[gkrieg13]

energy: 4

[arcee]

bolt

[gkrieg13]

bolt

Is blue

[arcee]

water

[gkrieg13]

water

Is neutral

[Eevee]

Princess Luna: 3

[eHalcyon]

Unicorn

[Eevee]

red

[eHalcyon]

Moon

[Eevee]

red

[eHalcyon]

Silver?

[Eevee]

unforunately blue

[gkrieg13]

On mobile. Can someone update the grid?

[silverspawn]

Unicorn

[silverspawn]

Fwiw I thought your guess was awesome!

MOON	BOLT	APPLE	SATELLITE	DEATH
FIGURE	FARM	SPIDER	SILVER	KID
RING	BERRY	QUEEN	VACUUM	SOUND
GOLD	WATER	ROBIN	UNICORN	HOOD
PAN	LUCK	COMIC	EGYPT	STICK

[gkrieg13]

bite: 3

[arcee]

Unicorn should be blue, right?

spider

[silverspawn]

Unicorn should be blue, right?

spider

Should it?

Unicorn

red

[silverspawn]

Though on the other hand the unicorn is blue. But on the third hand it's still not a unicorn.

[Eevee]

Unicorn is red. I totally blanked on the silverspawn-connection with my clue, good job still though. This time let's close it out too!

[Eevee]

Spider is blue

[arcee]

let's take another bite at the apple

[gkrieg13]

let's take another bite at the apple

Also blue

[arcee]

sound

[arcee]

and I have to head out, so I'll prepare energy ring if needed.

[Eevee]

sounds is blue

[Eevee]

ring is red!

[arcee]

Oops.  sorry - actually thought of Ring for both clues (teething ring with bite).

[Eevee]

Peter: 1

[eHalcyon]

Pan

[gkrieg13]

Pan

Is the ASSASSIN!!!!!!  MUHAHAHAHAHA

jk

gg

[Eevee]

Is red.

We still have a word left, gkrieg!

[gkrieg13]

Is red.

We still have a word left, gkrieg!

Oh oops. Sorry

[eHalcyon]

MOON	BOLT	APPLE	SATELLITE	DEATH
FIGURE	FARM	SPIDER	SILVER	KID
RING	BERRY	QUEEN	VACUUM	SOUND
GOLD	WATER	ROBIN	UNICORN	HOOD
PAN	LUCK	COMIC	EGYPT	STICK

Pass.  I don't know enough about MLP to make another guess at Princess Luna.  For all I know, it was Ring.  Blue has a fair chance to finish and it's more fun if they win that way than if I accidentally hit the assassin.

[gkrieg13]

machine: 2

[arcee]

vacuum

[Eevee]

blue

[arcee]

farm

[Eevee]

neutral!

Superman: 1

[eHalcyon]

I was totally thinking Energy Farm would be a thing.

Comic

[arcee]

or farm machines!  still, I should have said satellite first.

here's hoping superman has action figures! 

[gkrieg13]

I was totally thinking Energy Farm would be a thing.

Comic

Comic is red.

Machine was satellite. The other bite one was berry, because you bite a berry

[Eevee]

Yay eHalc! Gg.

[arcee]

I am not up for more games for the next couple of weeks.

Thanks, it's been great fun!

[gkrieg13]

Well maybe Faust is back

[eHalcyon]

What say you, faust?

@Eevee, what was the other Princess Luna?

[Eevee]

It was comic, cartoon is like a comic book in a video form, and I'm sure they've also made MLP comic books if you dig deep enough.

[silverspawn]

It was comic, cartoon is like a comic book in a video form, and I'm sure they've also made MLP comic books if you dig deep enough.

They're pretty good. Better than the show, some say.

[faust]

Oh, I didn't see this. I can play again if you'd like.

[Eevee]

Yes please!

[eHalcyon]

Oh, I didn't see this. I can play again if you'd like.

Make it!

[faust]

Okay... who's the team again? And who are the spymasters?

[Eevee]

You and gkrieg are a team.

And last game it was me and arcee explaining, so this game would be gkrieg and ehalcyon.

[faust]

I have 666 posts and will never again post anywhere but in forum games! (Maybe)

[silverspawn]

you must be hitler!

[eHalcyon]

You and gkrieg are a team.

And last game it was me and arcee explaining, so this game would be gkrieg and ehalcyon.

Oh, then I guess gkrieg should make it.

[gkrieg13]

You and gkrieg are a team.

And last game it was me and arcee explaining, so this game would be gkrieg and ehalcyon.

Oh, then I guess gkrieg should make it.

I will do it when I'm by a computer

[gkrieg13]

Blue goes first

AFRICA	HOTEL	SCORPION	TURKEY	CLIFF
PLATYPUS	BERMUDA	PLASTIC	RING	SINK
SMUGGLER	EARTH	MINT	TAIL	SCUBA DIVER
SWING	SLUG	KNIGHT	PLANE	TEACHER
BOARD	SNOW	PARACHUTE	TAP	WORM

[eHalcyon]

You're blue, I think?

[gkrieg13]

You're blue, I think?

yep.

COMBAT: 3

[faust]

Knight

[gkrieg13]

Is blue

[faust]

Going by current politics, my next guess will be Turkey

[gkrieg13]

Hmmmmm

Welp that was the assassin

Gg guys

[Eevee]

 

[Eevee]

Blue goes first

GROUND	STAR	MOUSE	PLOT	BREAK
MIRROR	PIPE	ICE	BEAT	WATER
SHARK	KNIFE	AUSTRALIA	SKYSCRAPER	FAIR
MISSILE	STADIUM	FOOTBALL	BOX	OCTOPUS
WAR	DOCTOR	KNIGHT	WEB	PORT

[faust]

What other words did you have in mind for combat?

[gkrieg13]

What other words did you have in mind for combat?

Well, our words didn't go together too well.

I was hoping for slug and parachute, with you maybe guessing plane, which was neutral

[faust]

Man, I wasn't even aware of that meaning of slug. Anyway,

Sewerage: 3

[gkrieg13]

Man, I wasn't even aware of that meaning of slug. Anyway,

Sewerage: 3

Pipe

[faust]

Is blue

[eHalcyon]

We didn't get to do anything that round.   Here was the board:

AFRICA	HOTEL	SCORPION	TURKEY	CLIFF
PLATYPUS	BERMUDA	PLASTIC	RING	SINK
SMUGGLER	EARTH	MINT	TAIL	SCUBA DIVER
SWING	SLUG	KNIGHT	PLANE	TEACHER
BOARD	SNOW	PARACHUTE	TAP	WORM

My first thought was -- Africa, Bermuda and Earth go together well... but Turkey.  After some thought, I though "Atlantic" might work to hit those three while excluding Turkey, but I would try to wait until Sink and Scuba Diver were gone.  Scorpion and Worm should be easy to connect, but my first clue was going to be Apple for Teacher, Worm and maybe Tap (via touchscreens).  If that worked, I could try for some sort of Mortal Kombat clue to hit Snow and Scorpion.

[gkrieg13]

WATER

[gkrieg13]

My first thought was -- Africa, Bermuda and Earth go together well... but Turkey.  After some thought, I though "Atlantic" might work to hit those three while excluding Turkey, but I would try to wait until Sink and Scuba Diver were gone.  Scorpion and Worm should be easy to connect, but my first clue was going to be Apple for Teacher, Worm and maybe Tap (via touchscreens).  If that worked, I could try for some sort of Mortal Kombat clue to hit Snow and Scorpion.

I was going to do the clue water, but you had Tap in the way, and I was sure that would be chosen

[faust]

Water is blue.

(for once, colors roughly match)

[gkrieg13]

GROUND

[gkrieg13]

and PASS

[Eevee]

Ground is red!

[Eevee]

David Campese: 3

[eHalcyon]

I was going to do the clue water, but you had Tap in the way, and I was sure that would be chosen

If you were only trying for Sink and Scuba Diver, you could probably have gone for something like Ocean, Submarine, Snorkeling?

Anyway...

GROUND	STAR	MOUSE	PLOT	BREAK
MIRROR	PIPE	ICE	BEAT	WATER
SHARK	KNIFE	AUSTRALIA	SKYSCRAPER	FAIR
MISSILE	STADIUM	FOOTBALL	BOX	OCTOPUS
WAR	DOCTOR	KNIGHT	WEB	PORT

Australia

[Eevee]

Australia is red

[eHalcyon]

Football

[Eevee]

Red

[eHalcyon]

Pass.  Don't know much about this guy, and it wouldn't feel fair to me if I do more than a quick glance over his Wikipedia page.  The IRL game allows table talk between guessers so I'll say this -- I have at least one guess, but I don't see why it would require David Campese as such a specific clue as opposed to just "Rugby", which is why I'm holding off for now.

[Eevee]

Yeah, it was my understanding that we allowed googling for thing. I'm of course okay with changing this rule for future games.

[gkrieg13]

I was also under the impression that googling was allowed

[eHalcyon]

I'm fine with it, I just personally would feel kind of cheap to do too much research.  That way lies madness for me.   I mean, if I hadn't searched, I wouldn't even have gotten the first two words.

You could also call it laziness.  I don't mind at all how much you guys want to research.  And if I get desperate I may go back and read up on Campese.

[Eevee]

I mean, I haven't googled for longer than a minute for anything. Like, last time I had an inkling there could be a My Little Pony character that has something to do with the moon, so I googled MLP moon, and took the first match. That's the kind of googling I've done. I also feel going too deep can cause problems as well, I think even happened in one of the early games we had for someone, but I don't remember how it went exactly. So it's a tricky balance.

[faust]

Well, I certainly hope googling is allowed; there are some words that I just don't know. I would prefer if it stays just at a "what is this" level.

Anyway, Interval: 2

[eHalcyon]

Right, that's about how I've been treating it.  I was like, "who is David Campese?"  He's an Australian rugby player.  I kind of skimmed a bit more of the wiki article but didn't glean enough to guess at the third word.

There's no clear line of how much is "allowed" and it's not so enforceable anyway so I'm totally cool if you guys want to spend a lot more time looking stuff up.  I'm just probably not going to do it myself!

[gkrieg13]

break

[faust]

break is blue

[gkrieg13]

Beat

[Eevee]

beat is neutral

[Eevee]

Career: 2

[eHalcyon]

Doctor

[faust]

Doctor is red

[faust]

GROUND	STAR	MOUSE	PLOT	BREAK
MIRROR	PIPE	ICE	BEAT	WATER
SHARK	KNIFE	AUSTRALIA	SKYSCRAPER	FAIR
MISSILE	STADIUM	FOOTBALL	BOX	OCTOPUS
WAR	DOCTOR	KNIGHT	WEB	PORT

[eHalcyon]

I guess Knight is also a career?

[Eevee]

it is red

[gkrieg13]

Just so you know Faust, I'm leaning toward mouse and war for the last two clues

[eHalcyon]

Pass

[Eevee]

Just so you know Faust, I'm leaning toward mouse and war for the last two clues

This I'm not sure is allowed, though? For future reference, I think the only discussion between the spymaster and the guesser should be the clues. What do others think?

[eHalcyon]

Just so you know Faust, I'm leaning toward mouse and war for the last two clues

This I'm not sure is allowed, though? For future reference, I think the only discussion between the spymaster and the guesser should be the clues. What do others think?

I don't really mind.  Spymaster shouldn't be conveying information to the team other than through clues, but the team (even though in this case it's just one person) is free to discuss among themselves, for which the Spymaster is present the whole time.  I said a few things earlier too, re: holding off on a third guess for David Campese.

[faust]

Just so you know Faust, I'm leaning toward mouse and war for the last two clues

This I'm not sure is allowed, though? For future reference, I think the only discussion between the spymaster and the guesser should be the clues. What do others think?

Yes, I think this should not be done. I don't mind ehalc explaining his pass earlier, but straight up saying what clues you will take gives way too much information to the spymaster. I mean, you could then also just say: "If you want me to pick X, give a Y clue." That's no fun.

[faust]

Villain: Unlimited

[eHalcyon]

Just so you know Faust, I'm leaning toward mouse and war for the last two clues

This I'm not sure is allowed, though? For future reference, I think the only discussion between the spymaster and the guesser should be the clues. What do others think?

Yes, I think this should not be done. I don't mind ehalc explaining his pass earlier, but straight up saying what clues you will take gives way too much information to the spymaster. I mean, you could then also just say: "If you want me to pick X, give a Y clue." That's no fun.

Well, setting up codes like that is unreasonable.  But I'm going from my experience IRL, where players will say stuff like, "I really think it could be X or Y, but I'm not confident enough so I'll pass for now".  It seems fine to me.

...granted, I did go out of my way not to mention which word I was thinking, just in case others might object.

[gkrieg13]

I feel like often you don't want to say which words you are thinking because you don't want the other team to know which words you think are yours. Table talk by the guessers is encouraged, and I wouldn't say stuff like include a d in your answer if the fourth word is involved.

From my experience IRL, you can be completely wrong and say I will guess this or this, so add 2 numbers to whatever clue you were going to give. The spymaster had no way to convey that the two you were planning on guessing we're completely wrong

[gkrieg13]

war

[faust]

Well... war is neutral.

[gkrieg13]

Oopsie

[Eevee]

Above: 2

[eHalcyon]

star

[Eevee]

red

[eHalcyon]

GROUND	STAR	MOUSE	PLOT	BREAK
MIRROR	PIPE	ICE	BEAT	WATER
SHARK	KNIFE	AUSTRALIA	SKYSCRAPER	FAIR
MISSILE	STADIUM	FOOTBALL	BOX	OCTOPUS
WAR	DOCTOR	KNIGHT	WEB	PORT

I think this is updated correctly?

Uh, I see two that work pretty well for Above.  I'll guess Skyscraper.

[Eevee]

red

[eHalcyon]

OK, pass.

[faust]

I feel like I have to do something clever now. Oh well. Let's try

Self-conscious: Unlimited

[Eevee]

Gl blue, should be fun

[eHalcyon]

I think I can hit 4 blues but I'm kind of lost on the last 2.

[gkrieg13]

plot

[Eevee]

Plot is neutral

[Eevee]

Jaws: 1

[eHalcyon]

Well, I would have gone for Plot too.

Shark

[gkrieg13]

I actually thought plot was the last interval clue, then thought it was one of the villain clues.  I was going to guess shark as one of my last villain guesses too...

[eHalcyon]

I actually thought plot was the last interval clue, then thought it was one of the villain clues.  I was going to guess shark as one of my last villain guesses too...

I was thinking Plot and Knife for villain, Mouse and Mirror for self-conscious.

(Plot twist: Shark is yours and I'm helping you now.)

[Eevee]

Shark is red!

[eHalcyon]

So tell me about David Campese.

[Eevee]

The australian football star? 

[eHalcyon]

The australian football star? 

Ohhh.  I don't really think of professional athletes as "stars", though certainly some people do.

What's the full grid?

[Eevee]

Blue goes first

GROUND	STAR	MOUSE	PLOT	BREAK
MIRROR	PIPE	ICE	BEAT	WATER
SHARK	KNIFE	AUSTRALIA	SKYSCRAPER	FAIR
MISSILE	STADIUM	FOOTBALL	BOX	OCTOPUS
WAR	DOCTOR	KNIGHT	WEB	PORT

Create a new game for us!

[arcee]

in my IRL games we haven't allowed googling but when 2v2 and the courier has no idea what it means we give a different clue (assuming honesty, all that has happened is free information for the opponents so no harm).

[faust]

I actually thought plot was the last interval clue, then thought it was one of the villain clues.  I was going to guess shark as one of my last villain guesses too...

Maybe my clues weren't too good? I liked them though.

My thought was that all clues were already given when I proposed my last clue, so that was just to make you shy away from some animal-related clues.

Sewerage was for pipe, water, web. Because it's a web of water pipes. D'oh.
Interval was for break, stadium. I specifically thought of interval as a sports term, which has a more distinctive name in German, but I tried it anyway.
Villian was Knife, Missile (which just seem like villian tools) and Mirror (via Snow White) and Octopus (via The Little Mermaid)

[eHalcyon]

in my IRL games we haven't allowed googling but when 2v2 and the courier has no idea what it means we give a different clue (assuming honesty, all that has happened is free information for the opponents so no harm).

I wouldn't allow any googling IRL either, but this isn't IRL and I think we're all fine with it.

[eHalcyon]

Red goes first

DUST	SOCK	BAY	HEART	ALIEN
CASTLE	PART	ICE	BEIJING	SCORPION
BELT	PLAY	MEXICO	ANTARCTICA	FALL
EGYPT	SPIDER	GOLD	UNDERTAKER	BASE
ELECTRIC	LAB	PASTE	FILE	DATE

[eHalcyon]

Gonna try Crypt: 4

[Eevee]

castle

[eHalcyon]

Castle is red.

[Eevee]

egypt

[gkrieg13]

egypt

Is blue

[gkrieg13]

city: 3

[eHalcyon]

egypt

Is blue

I knew this was a risk.  Oh well!

[faust]

Beijing

[gkrieg13]

Beijing

Is blue

[Eevee]

hey I'm out for the next 24h, sorry guys

[faust]

Mexico

[gkrieg13]

Mexico

also blue

[faust]

The last one is kinda hard... but I will go with Lab, assuming a Dominion clue.

[faust]

And pass

[gkrieg13]

Lab is neutral

[eHalcyon]

On mobile, will update grid tomorrow if nobody else does.

Glitter: 3

[Eevee]

also on mobile.

gold

[faust]

DUST	SOCK	BAY	HEART	ALIEN
CASTLE	PART	ICE	BEIJING	SCORPION
BELT	PLAY	MEXICO	ANTARCTICA	FALL
EGYPT	SPIDER	GOLD	UNDERTAKER	BASE
ELECTRIC	LAB	PASTE	FILE	DATE

[eHalcyon]

also on mobile.

gold

red

[Eevee]

ice

[eHalcyon]

ice

Neutral.

We aren't syncing this game! >_>

[Eevee]

Dang!

[faust]

gkrieg, you there?

[gkrieg13]

gkrieg, you there?

Sorry about that. Getting a clue now

[gkrieg13]

animal crossing: 3

[faust]

Is that a valid clue?

[faust]

Ah, it's a game as Google tells me. I will think about this tomorrow.

[gkrieg13]

Ah, it's a game as Google tells me. I will think about this tomorrow.

Sorry I should have capitalized it

[faust]

Alright, since it's a game, play seems safe.

[gkrieg13]

Alright, since it's a game, play seems safe.

Blue

[faust]

Well then... let's go for some animals.

Spider

[gkrieg13]

Well then... let's go for some animals.

Spider

darn.  Spider is Red

[eHalcyon]

DUST	SOCK	BAY	HEART	ALIEN
CASTLE	PART	ICE	BEIJING	SCORPION
BELT	PLAY	MEXICO	ANTARCTICA	FALL
EGYPT	SPIDER	GOLD	UNDERTAKER	BASE
ELECTRIC	LAB	PASTE	FILE	DATE

Let's try Meteorite: 4

[Eevee]

fall

[gkrieg13]

fall

is red

[Eevee]

belt

[eHalcyon]

belt

Neutral.

Darn, I hadn't even considered that as a potential trap.  My bad.

[gkrieg13]

Pacemaker: 2

[Eevee]

belt

Neutral.

Darn, I hadn't even considered that as a potential trap.  My bad.

No worries. It's a lot of fun having this many clues on hold! I love your style of trying to give really big clues, even if there are some missteps at times.

And we'll get this game as well still!

[faust]

Pacemaker: 2

Heart

[gkrieg13]

Pacemaker: 2

Heart

Is blue

[faust]

Electric

[gkrieg13]

Also blue

[faust]

Part

[gkrieg13]

Part

is red

 

[gkrieg13]

DUST	SOCK	BAY	HEART	ALIEN
CASTLE	PART	ICE	BEIJING	SCORPION
BELT	PLAY	MEXICO	ANTARCTICA	FALL
EGYPT	SPIDER	GOLD	UNDERTAKER	BASE
ELECTRIC	LAB	PASTE	FILE	DATE

[silverspawn]

This game is a mess!

[eHalcyon]

Quick recap for ease of tracking...

Crypt: 4
- Castle
- Egypt

City: 3
- Beijing
- Mexico
- Lab

Glitter: 3
- Gold
- Ice

Animal Crossing
- Play
- Spider

Meteorite: 4
- Fall
- Belt

Pacemaker: 2
- Heart
- Electric
- Part

Yeah it really is a mess.

[eHalcyon]

Glue: Unlimited

[Eevee]

paste

[eHalcyon]

paste

Red

[Eevee]

So many ways I could go!

Alien

[gkrieg13]

So many ways I could go!

Alien

Is red

[Eevee]

Dust

[gkrieg13]

Dust

Also red

[Eevee]

Undertaker

[gkrieg13]

Undertaker

Red

Gg

[Eevee]

Wohoo!

[silverspawn]

A tremendous win!

[eHalcyon]

 

[faust]

What's the grid? I'm still unsure what some of our clues were supposed to be...

[eHalcyon]

DUST	SOCK	BAY	HEART	ALIEN
CASTLE	PART	ICE	BEIJING	SCORPION
BELT	PLAY	MEXICO	ANTARCTICA	FALL
EGYPT	SPIDER	GOLD	UNDERTAKER	BASE
ELECTRIC	LAB	PASTE	FILE	DATE

[gkrieg13]

I didn't see spider when I gave the Animal Crossing clue, but it was supposed to be PLAY, ELECTRIC, SCORPION, and then FILE if we got there, which we didn't

[Eevee]

Red goes first

TABLE	MILK	ENGINE	ORANGE	POUND
DEGREE	ROCK	PRIVATE	BREAK	LOG
CAKE	SNOWMAN	HOSPITAL	CAST	ANTARCTICA
CRANE	DRESS	RAY	MOSCOW	PLATE
GRACE	WAVE	SATURN	COMPOUND	BARK

[Eevee]

Coolant: 2

[eHalcyon]

Engine is the obvious one.

[Eevee]

Yes sir, red.

[eHalcyon]

OK, will go with Compound now.

[Eevee]

Red again!

[eHalcyon]

Pass!

[faust]

Mercury: 4

[gkrieg13]

Degree

[Roadrunner7671]

/tag

[faust]

Degree is blue.

[gkrieg13]

Saturn

[faust]

Also blue.

[gkrieg13]

Table?

[Eevee]

Blue!

[gkrieg13]

Rock and pass

[faust]

Rock is red.

TABLE	MILK	ENGINE	ORANGE	POUND
DEGREE	ROCK	PRIVATE	BREAK	LOG
CAKE	SNOWMAN	HOSPITAL	CAST	ANTARCTICA
CRANE	DRESS	RAY	MOSCOW	PLATE
GRACE	WAVE	SATURN	COMPOUND	BARK

[Eevee]

Quiet: 3

[eHalcyon]

Interesting clue...

Private

[Eevee]

Red!

[eHalcyon]

Um, Grace?

[faust]

Grace is red.

[eHalcyon]

Nice. Um... You may want it to be quiet when you take a Break?

(Pass after this.)

[faust]

Break is neutral.

TABLE	MILK	ENGINE	ORANGE	POUND
DEGREE	ROCK	PRIVATE	BREAK	LOG
CAKE	SNOWMAN	HOSPITAL	CAST	ANTARCTICA
CRANE	DRESS	RAY	MOSCOW	PLATE
GRACE	WAVE	SATURN	COMPOUND	BARK

[faust]

Fluid: 2

[gkrieg13]

Fluid: 2

Milk

[Eevee]

Blue

[gkrieg13]

Wave

[faust]

Also blue.

[gkrieg13]

Hospital?

[faust]

Blue as well

[Eevee]

Reflects: 3

[eHalcyon]

Ray

[Eevee]

red

[eHalcyon]

Um, a nice shiny Plate?

[Eevee]

That would be red, sir.

[eHalcyon]

To reflect something is to Cast it back...

[faust]

Cast is blue.

[gkrieg13]

That means one more word for us right?

[faust]

TABLE	MILK	ENGINE	ORANGE	POUND
DEGREE	ROCK	PRIVATE	BREAK	LOG
CAKE	SNOWMAN	HOSPITAL	CAST	ANTARCTICA
CRANE	DRESS	RAY	MOSCOW	PLATE
GRACE	WAVE	SATURN	COMPOUND	BARK

Lifts: 1

[Eevee]

Dang.  I had a dream.

[eHalcyon]

Dang.  I had a dream.

Sorry Eevee!

So we were missing one Quiet and one Reflects... I only have one guess that kind of works for both, but I'm lost on the last word then... I'll make final guesses after Blue goes, win or lose.

[gkrieg13]

CRANE

[Eevee]

Red goes first

TABLE	MILK	ENGINE	ORANGE	POUND
DEGREE	ROCK	PRIVATE	BREAK	LOG
CAKE	SNOWMAN	HOSPITAL	CAST	ANTARCTICA
CRANE	DRESS	RAY	MOSCOW	PLATE
GRACE	WAVE	SATURN	COMPOUND	BARK

Congrats blue! Good game.

[eHalcyon]

Well my other guess was going to be Log (in the sense of writing in a journal and reflecting).

The ones we missed were... Antarctica and Dress?  I guess Antarctica reflects because it's icy?  Not sure about Quiet/Dress though, if that was even the intention.

[faust]

Well my other guess was going to be Log (in the sense of writing in a journal and reflecting).

The ones we missed were... Antarctica and Dress?  I guess Antarctica reflects because it's icy?  Not sure about Quiet/Dress though, if that was even the intention.

Yeah, I wasn't sure where this was going either... at first I thought Antarctica is pretty quiet, but then it also fitted the reflects clue.

[Eevee]

It was a hail mary, I didn't think we would get another turn, and I couldn't think of anything that connects all four words.


Antarctica was the third word for quiet, dress was the last one for reflects, I was thinking about the blue/golden dress. It was a long shot.

[eHalcyon]

Blue goes first

MOUNT	TALE	NEEDLE	CODE	MEXICO
SCIENTIST	MUG	AMAZON	SOLDIER	WORM
BOND	DATE	GAME	PARACHUTE	MAMMOTH
SETTLE	POISON	ORANGE	PLATYPUS	KETCHUP
GROUND	BEAR	ENGLAND	BOOT	SCREEN

[Eevee]

Let's go team red!

[gkrieg13]

paratrooper: 3

[faust]

Well, Parachute.

[silverspawn]

is RED.

Or maybe it's BLUE. I don't know. I'm not playing.

[gkrieg13]

Well, Parachute.

Blue

[faust]

Soldier

[gkrieg13]

Soldier

also blue

[faust]

I'll pick Ground for the last one. Pass after that.

[gkrieg13]

I'll pick Ground for the last one. Pass after that.

Is red

[eHalcyon]

I'll pick Ground for the last one. Pass after that.

Is red

Check again, it's neutral!

MOUNT	TALE	NEEDLE	CODE	MEXICO
SCIENTIST	MUG	AMAZON	SOLDIER	WORM
BOND	DATE	GAME	PARACHUTE	MAMMOTH
SETTLE	POISON	ORANGE	PLATYPUS	KETCHUP
GROUND	BEAR	ENGLAND	BOOT	SCREEN

I'm going big.

Scolipede: 5

[Eevee]

poison

[eHalcyon]

red!

[eHalcyon]

Eevee?

[Eevee]

Forgot about this game!

Worm

[eHalcyon]

Red!

[Eevee]

game

[eHalcyon]

Red

[Eevee]

I'll try screen

[eHalcyon]

Neutral, but it was a good run.

MOUNT	TALE	NEEDLE	CODE	MEXICO
SCIENTIST	MUG	AMAZON	SOLDIER	WORM
BOND	DATE	GAME	PARACHUTE	MAMMOTH
SETTLE	POISON	ORANGE	PLATYPUS	KETCHUP
GROUND	BEAR	ENGLAND	BOOT	SCREEN

[gkrieg13]

South America: 3

[faust]

Amazon

[gkrieg13]

Amazon

Blue

[faust]

I'm going to pick Mexico, even though I don't think it's technically in South America.

[gkrieg13]

I'm going to pick Mexico, even though I don't think it's technically in South America.

Blue

[faust]

I'm a bit torn about the last one... Settle?

[faust]

Pass after that.

[gkrieg13]

Pass after that.

Blue

[eHalcyon]

MOUNT	TALE	NEEDLE	CODE	MEXICO
SCIENTIST	MUG	AMAZON	SOLDIER	WORM
BOND	DATE	GAME	PARACHUTE	MAMMOTH
SETTLE	POISON	ORANGE	PLATYPUS	KETCHUP
GROUND	BEAR	ENGLAND	BOOT	SCREEN

Gonna try... Fluid: 3

[Eevee]

ketchup

[eHalcyon]

ketchup

Ketchup is red.  It checks out.

[Eevee]

code

[gkrieg13]

code

Neutral

ancient: 2

[faust]

Mammoth

[gkrieg13]

Mammoth

Blue

[faust]

Right, we have three words left... no way we can win this turn. And I don't feel confident enough and would rather have red take some more guesses and get another clue... so pass.

[eHalcyon]

Helvellyn: Unlimited

[Eevee]

england

[eHalcyon]

red

[Eevee]

mount

[eHalcyon]

red

[Eevee]

MOUNT	TALE	NEEDLE	CODE	MEXICO
SCIENTIST	MUG	AMAZON	SOLDIER	WORM
BOND	DATE	GAME	PARACHUTE	MAMMOTH
SETTLE	POISON	ORANGE	PLATYPUS	KETCHUP
GROUND	BEAR	ENGLAND	BOOT	SCREEN

[Eevee]

boot

[gkrieg13]

boot

Is blue 😀

[gkrieg13]

March 1

[faust]

March 1

Isn't writing this without a colon already giving a subtle hint?

Date

[faust]

boot

Is blue 😀

My ingenious plan worked out!

[Eevee]

Could be neutral? 🙏🏼

[eHalcyon]

Date is blue.

It's not over though! You have one more guess.

[arcee]

I'm going to pick Mexico, even though I don't think it's technically in South America.

This is one of my favourite sorts of situations in Codenames.

[Eevee]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaNbDYGmGwc

I was hoping "march" referred to the famous platypus march.  (Any excuse to post that clip.)

[faust]

I feel like the only reasonable guess is Bond. James Bond.

[gkrieg13]

I feel like the only reasonable guess is Bond. James Bond.

Neutral

[eHalcyon]

MOUNT	TALE	NEEDLE	CODE	MEXICO
SCIENTIST	MUG	AMAZON	SOLDIER	WORM
BOND	DATE	GAME	PARACHUTE	MAMMOTH
SETTLE	POISON	ORANGE	PLATYPUS	KETCHUP
GROUND	BEAR	ENGLAND	BOOT	SCREEN

Welp, Container: 2

[Eevee]

mug

[eHalcyon]

Red

[Eevee]

scientist

[gkrieg13]

scientist

Muhahahahahahahahaha

Assassinated!👹🏹🗡🗡

[silverspawn]

scientist

Muhahahahahahahahaha

Assassinated!👹🏹🗡🗡

[eHalcyon]

scientist

Hmm, I guess Container mislead because the needle isn't the container so much as the syringe.

Needle was also intended for Fluid and kind of a stretch for Scolipede (it can be bred to learn Twineedle!).

Oh well, assassin at the end is more fun than assassin at the beginning.

[faust]

Yay! What was that last word for blue?

[eHalcyon]

Yay! What was that last word for blue?

Before we reveal it... It turns out that gkrieg actually screwed up his last clue. He meant it to be March 1: 2. Given that, what would your second guess have been?

Also, Eevee, what clue lead you to Boot?

[Eevee]

http://www.hi-tec.co.uk/men/footwear/hiking-and-walking-shoes-boots/v-lite-helvellyn-waterproof-mens-hiking-boot-O005133.html

[eHalcyon]

http://www.hi-tec.co.uk/men/footwear/hiking-and-walking-shoes-boots/v-lite-helvellyn-waterproof-mens-hiking-boot-O005133.html

Whoa, haha.

[faust]

Yay! What was that last word for blue?

Before we reveal it... It turns out that gkrieg actually screwed up his last clue. He meant it to be March 1: 2. Given that, what would your second guess have been?

March 1? Uh... are dates even allowed? Anyway... not sure. That date doesn't really ring a bell.

I pinned down Mug and Tale as possible reds (for fluid/scolipede). I don't think Platypus would be linked to a specific date, and probably Needle neither. Bear seems a had sell too. So it would have been between Scientist, Bond, Orange.

Further googling led me to the realization that March 1 is self-injury awareness day and comes with orange ribbons. But I would probably not have done that research if we were still playing. I don't think I would have taken Scientist, but Bond could have been a real option there still.

[gkrieg13]

You didn't look up national platypus day then!

[faust]

You didn't look up national platypus day then!

I looked it up now, but it's not even necessarily on March 1!

Also I thought Platypus was also a potential fluid clue, since they live in the water.

[faust]

So I think that even if I did research, I would have still picked Orange over Platypus.

[faust]

Blue goes first

WAKE	BEER	STADIUM	KIWI	LIFE
SHOP	PISTOL	UNICORN	BREAD	BERLIN
BOOT	BUCK	CHECK	TELESCOPE	MINT
MIRROR	GERMANY	LAWYER	CIRCLE	TAG
ROOF	ANGEL	DANCE	DUCK	TRIANGLE

[eHalcyon]

are dates even allowed?

gkrieg posted the clue as it was by accident, then messaged me to ask if I would have allowed dates.  I was against it at first, and in the meantime you guys just assumed he accidentally left out the colon.  Then he told me his reasoning and I thought the National Platypus Day reference was funny so he could correct the clue with the number if he wanted (even though Eevee had posted that platypus video!), but then faust made his guess before gkrieg returned (I think).

We should clarify now though.  Are dates allowed?  Here's a discussion thread but it's inconclusive.  As with most Codenames rules, it's up to the group.

[faust]

are dates even allowed?

gkrieg posted the clue as it was by accident, then messaged me to ask if I would have allowed dates.  I was against it at first, and in the meantime you guys just assumed he accidentally left out the colon.  Then he told me his reasoning and I thought the National Platypus Day reference was funny so he could correct the clue with the number if he wanted (even though Eevee had posted that platypus video!), but then faust made his guess before gkrieg returned (I think).

We should clarify now though.  Are dates allowed?  Here's a discussion thread but it's inconclusive.  As with most Codenames rules, it's up to the group.

I think dates are fine. They don't usually give away more than a single word.

[faust]

Trigonometry: 3

[gkrieg13]

I'm fine with dates as clues

TRIANGLE

[faust]

blue

[gkrieg13]

CIRCLE

[faust]

also blue

[gkrieg13]

ROOF?

[faust]

And it's blue as well.

[gkrieg13]

Pass

[faust]

WAKE	BEER	STADIUM	KIWI	LIFE
SHOP	PISTOL	UNICORN	BREAD	BERLIN
BOOT	BUCK	CHECK	TELESCOPE	MINT
MIRROR	GERMANY	LAWYER	CIRCLE	TAG
ROOF	ANGEL	DANCE	DUCK	TRIANGLE

[Eevee]

Good game last game!

Looking: 3

[eHalcyon]

Telescope

[Eevee]

Red

[eHalcyon]

Mirror

[Eevee]

red

[eHalcyon]

Check

[Eevee]

Ugh, Blue!

[faust]

WAKE	BEER	STADIUM	KIWI	LIFE
SHOP	PISTOL	UNICORN	BREAD	BERLIN
BOOT	BUCK	CHECK	TELESCOPE	MINT
MIRROR	GERMANY	LAWYER	CIRCLE	TAG
ROOF	ANGEL	DANCE	DUCK	TRIANGLE

Yeast: 2

[gkrieg13]

beer

[Eevee]

blue

[gkrieg13]

bread

[Eevee]

blue

[gkrieg13]

Pass

[Eevee]

WAKE	BEER	STADIUM	KIWI	LIFE
SHOP	PISTOL	UNICORN	BREAD	BERLIN
BOOT	BUCK	CHECK	TELESCOPE	MINT
MIRROR	GERMANY	LAWYER	CIRCLE	TAG
ROOF	ANGEL	DANCE	DUCK	TRIANGLE

[Eevee]

Aramoana: 3

[eHalcyon]

Kiwi

[Eevee]

red

[eHalcyon]

Pistol?

[Eevee]

red

[eHalcyon]

Man, I don't know.  Uh, Shop because when you go shopping you are looking at stuff.

[Eevee]

Neutral

[eHalcyon]

Aww.

[Eevee]

It's a difficult set.

[faust]

Coin: 2

[gkrieg13]

MINT

[Eevee]

blue

[gkrieg13]

Buck?

[Eevee]

blue

[gkrieg13]

Pass

[Eevee]

holsteiner: 3

[faust]

WAKE	BEER	STADIUM	KIWI	LIFE
SHOP	PISTOL	UNICORN	BREAD	BERLIN
BOOT	BUCK	CHECK	TELESCOPE	MINT
MIRROR	GERMANY	LAWYER	CIRCLE	TAG
ROOF	ANGEL	DANCE	DUCK	TRIANGLE

[eHalcyon]

Germany

[faust]

Is red.

[eHalcyon]

Unicorn

[faust]

red

[eHalcyon]

I'm going to hope for Berlin...

[Eevee]

Blue, ggg

[Eevee]

There is an angel looking over you, even if you commit mass murder and need a lawyer. 

[faust]

Well, I think your set was harder this time. And we got lucky with my first clue, which wasn't meant to point to Roof at all, but instead to Check.

Which was a shame actually, I had such a nice follow-up clue in mind.

Also, having Berlin-Germany for opposite teams was harsh. Well I could think of a thousand clues that I associate with Berlin but not with Germany, but then I'm a German living in Berlin, so ugh, no idea how relatable they would be.

[silverspawn]

I could drop in for Eevee if the rest of you wants to play again.

[Eevee]

I want to play!

[silverspawn]

I want to play!

oh, sorry! I thought you said it was your last game. Never mind, then, I'm happy to continue observing.

[gkrieg13]

Great game faust! 

I think that was a perfect game for us!

[eHalcyon]

So we got three 3 clues, but for each one I really only got 2.  Apparently Angel was for Looking... what were the third words for Holsteiner and Aramoana?

[faust]

So we got three 3 clues, but for each one I really only got 2.  Apparently Angel was for Looking... what were the third words for Holsteiner and Aramoana?

Aramoana was Laywer. I don't think Holsteiner had a third, but he needed the number to give you enough clue to win. (Should just take "unlimited" in that case though)

[Roadrunner7671]

Since it's in between a game, I guess I'll ask: When (let's say blue) gives a hint like Egg: 3 and the blue field operator guesses 3 things successfully, why do you assume they want the turn to end?

[gkrieg13]

Since it's in between a game, I guess I'll ask: When (let's say blue) gives a hint like Egg: 3 and the blue field operator guesses 3 things successfully, why do you assume they want the turn to end?

I didn't have anymore clues that I hadn't gotten the words already so there isn't too much of a point of me guessing further

[Roadrunner7671]

Since it's in between a game, I guess I'll ask: When (let's say blue) gives a hint like Egg: 3 and the blue field operator guesses 3 things successfully, why do you assume they want the turn to end?

I didn't have anymore clues that I hadn't gotten the words already so there isn't too much of a point of me guessing further

You don't trust dumb luck?

[eHalcyon]

So we got three 3 clues, but for each one I really only got 2.  Apparently Angel was for Looking... what were the third words for Holsteiner and Aramoana?

Aramoana was Laywer. I don't think Holsteiner had a third, but he needed the number to give you enough clue to win. (Should just take "unlimited" in that case though)

What's the Lawyer connection?

Yeah, if you give a number then it means that there are that many words that apply.  This actually came up in the previous game as well.  We had 4 words to find, and I thought the most difficult ones left were Mount and England, so I gave the clue "Helvellyn".  Eevee got my intended words immediately, and "unlimited" should have been clue that Helvellyn didn't apply to more than 2.  If it worked for a third word, I could have just given "3" instead of "unlimited" since we'd still have the fourth guess from that.

[eHalcyon]

Since it's in between a game, I guess I'll ask: When (let's say blue) gives a hint like Egg: 3 and the blue field operator guesses 3 things successfully, why do you assume they want the turn to end?

I didn't have anymore clues that I hadn't gotten the words already so there isn't too much of a point of me guessing further

You don't trust dumb luck?

Guessing randomly is more likely to help the other team than your own.  Unless you're already super far behind, you're less likely to hit your own colour than the combined chance of hitting the assassin, your opponents' word, or neutral.  Each of those cases is bad for you.  Assassin is instant loss, opponent's word is putting yourself a word behind, and neutral is one less word that could trip them up on their upcoming turn.

[Eevee]

Yeah, both bad oversights by me. Although the shoe connection would have been hard to ignore once I found it.

Next time I'll know!

[Eevee]

New game?

[gkrieg13]

Blue goes first

RACKET	FOREST	BOOT	QUEEN	WASHER
SOUND	SHOE	CAST	MOON	HEAD
BATTERY	CONCERT	BUGLE	YARD	LIFE
CROSS	APPLE	GRASS	FRANCE	SHADOW
DRESS	BERLIN	NUT	BRUSH	TICK

[gkrieg13]

energy: 2

[faust]

Battery

[eHalcyon]

Battery

blue

[faust]

Uhhh... life?

[eHalcyon]

Uhhh... life?

Neutral.

Shampoo: 3

[Eevee]

washer

[eHalcyon]

washer

Red

[Eevee]

head

[eHalcyon]

head

Red

[Eevee]

Let's try Apple

[eHalcyon]

Let's try Apple

Aww, that's blue.

[Eevee]

Aww.

[gkrieg13]

RACKET	FOREST	BOOT	QUEEN	WASHER
SOUND	SHOE	CAST	MOON	HEAD
BATTERY	CONCERT	BUGLE	YARD	LIFE
CROSS	APPLE	GRASS	FRANCE	SHADOW
DRESS	BERLIN	NUT	BRUSH	TICK

Measurement: 2

[faust]

Yard

[gkrieg13]

Yard

YARD is BLUE

[faust]

Dress

[gkrieg13]

Dress

DRESS is Neutral

[faust]

Meh :/ This is not going too well.

[eHalcyon]

Undergrowth: 3

[gkrieg13]

Meh :/ This is not going too well.

It's a difficult set

[Eevee]

forest

[gkrieg13]

forest

forest is red

[Eevee]

grass

[gkrieg13]

grass

Is red

[eHalcyon]

grass

Is red

No, it's neutral.  I knew it was a risk going in.

[Eevee]

Oh.

[eHalcyon]

RACKET	FOREST	BOOT	QUEEN	WASHER
SOUND	SHOE	CAST	MOON	HEAD
BATTERY	CONCERT	BUGLE	YARD	LIFE
CROSS	APPLE	GRASS	FRANCE	SHADOW
DRESS	BERLIN	NUT	BRUSH	TICK

Just to elaborate, I thought it was OK to risk it since it was neutral and since we were still keeping up with Blue.

Not sure why gkrieg switched neutral to yellow instead of pink, but OK.

[gkrieg13]

Kangoo Jumps: 3

[silverspawn]

Maybe Neutral is winning this one.

[faust]

Shoe

[gkrieg13]

Shoe

Blue

[faust]

The others are kind of hazy... I'll pick Moon because when you're wearing kangoo jumps, it's like walking on the moon! (I presume; I didn't actually try kangoo jumps yet, and have not been to the moon)

[eHalcyon]

The others are kind of hazy... I'll pick Moon because when you're wearing kangoo jumps, it's like walking on the moon! (I presume; I didn't actually try kangoo jumps yet, and have not been to the moon)

Blue

[Eevee]

faust?

[faust]

faust?

Sorry about the delay.

Uh, Sound?

[eHalcyon]

Sound is Blue.

You have one more guess, if you want it.

[faust]

It's tempting, but I think I'll pass.

[eHalcyon]

RACKET	FOREST	BOOT	QUEEN	WASHER
SOUND	SHOE	CAST	MOON	HEAD
BATTERY	CONCERT	BUGLE	YARD	LIFE
CROSS	APPLE	GRASS	FRANCE	SHADOW
DRESS	BERLIN	NUT	BRUSH	TICK

Cacophony: 3

[Eevee]

concert

[eHalcyon]

concert

red

[Eevee]

bugle

[gkrieg13]

bugle

Is red

[Eevee]

I think passing is the right move.

[gkrieg13]

RACKET	FOREST	BOOT	QUEEN	WASHER
SOUND	SHOE	CAST	MOON	HEAD
BATTERY	CONCERT	BUGLE	YARD	LIFE
CROSS	APPLE	GRASS	FRANCE	SHADOW
DRESS	BERLIN	NUT	BRUSH	TICK

GLADENBECK FOUNDRY: 2

[faust]

Clues are becoming ever more obscure. This one doesn't even have an entry in the German wikipedia!

Anyway, Berlin

[eHalcyon]

Clues are becoming ever more obscure. This one doesn't even have an entry in the German wikipedia!

Anyway, Berlin

Maybe we should enact some new rules to get away from that.

Berlin is blue.

[faust]

Cast

[gkrieg13]

Cast

Is blue

[faust]

Well, I feel like I need to try it...

Boot

[eHalcyon]

Well, I feel like I need to try it...

Boot

Neutral.

Lights: 0

Remember, 0 means that our words don't relate to the clue, and you get unlimited guesses.

[silverspawn]

You could have chosen any word, then, like candle or Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis, or moat. Or mint. Or mine. Instead you went with lights?

[Eevee]

brush

[gkrieg13]

brush

is red

[faust]

You could have chosen any word, then, like candle or Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis, or moat. Or mint. Or mine. Instead you went with lights?

The word he chose is still significant.

[Eevee]

nut

[silverspawn]

You could have chosen any word, then, like candle or Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis, or moat. Or mint. Or mine. Instead you went with lights?

The word he chose is still significant.

ah, of course. I see why. Carry on.

[gkrieg13]

nut

Is neutral

[gkrieg13]

clock: 1

[faust]

Tick

[gkrieg13]

Tick

Good job!

Blue

[Eevee]

Meh. I eliminated shadow for lights, and tick I pegged for your word after the measurement clue, but I didn't really have a good grip on our remaining clues. I thought nuts, like acorns and stuff could be found in the undergrowth (couldn't connect any other words there at least). For cacophony I would have probably gone for queen (the band), although I thought cacophony means noise that isn't in harmony, so wasn't feeling good about that at all.

Dunno! What were you going for? I would have been 50-50 between shadow and nut for undergrowth without the last clue.

[eHalcyon]

It was shadow! I was hoping you would consider it the opposite/absence of light and take the 0 that way. I was also hoping to eliminate stuff like Paris (which is a noisy place, so maybe you were thinking about it for Cacophony) and Cross (the assassin).  I realized afterwards that you might reasonably associate Lights and Shadow instead and kicked myself for that, sorry.

Cacophony was for Racket. They are synonyms. It actually appears if you look up the definition on Google.

I do wish you had guessed instead of passed on the second to last turn, because I was lost on what useful clue to provide, everything was so different. Now I think maybe I could have done something like Mafia: 2 to get shadow and racket, but that uses a more obscure definition of racket and might hit on Cross...

Ah well, good game!

[Eevee]

I passed, because I thought it'd be first priority to make their job as hard as possible so we'd get another turn and a shot to win. Didn't work out!

I'm randomizing a new grid for us.

[Eevee]

Red goes first

STOCK	LION	WIND	HAM	LOG
TURKEY	HOTEL	KISS	ROOF	SOUL
FLOWER	MOUSE	STRING	NURSE	DIAMOND
VAN	MILK	COTTON	TUBA	SCORPION
FORCE	LIGHT	MAJOR	SPINE	CHARGE

[eHalcyon]

New rule proposal: for simplicity and less obscurity, how about we eliminate all multi-word clues except for Dominion card/event/landmark names?

[Eevee]

Vertebrate: 4

PPE: Fine with ehalcyon's proposal.

[eHalcyon]

Vertebrate: 4

PPE: Fine with ehalcyon's proposal.

Wow, what a clue. OK, Lion

[Eevee]

red

[eHalcyon]

Mouse

[Eevee]

red

[eHalcyon]

Turkey

[Eevee]

red

[faust]

Uh, Eevee? I didn't get the grid.

[gkrieg13]

Uh, Eevee? I didn't get the grid.

Uh I got the grid...

[eHalcyon]

I guess we're switching up the order!

Spine

[Eevee]

Oh sorry! Well, shuffling players it seems. My bad.

We can also re-do if you want of course, we got a bit of a ridiculous start here.

PPE: red

[faust]

Uh, Eevee? I didn't get the grid.

Uh I got the grid...

Well... I suppose you're going to have to be spymaster again.

[eHalcyon]

Pass.

I don't feel bad about the luck since we've lost the last couple games. 

[Eevee]

Pass.

I don't feel bad about the luck since we've lost the last couple games. 

I went back the thread to track my record on all these games this far, and it's LWLLWLLLLWLLWLLWWWWLLLL, for 8/23. Not good Eevee, not good!

[gkrieg13]

I'm good for being spymaster again.

crash: 3

[eHalcyon]

Other thoughts on the rule proposal?

[gkrieg13]

Other thoughts on the rule proposal?

I think proper names should be allowed

[faust]

Other thoughts on the rule proposal?

I think proper names should be allowed

I'm not sure what "proper names" entails. I feel like single words are fine.

[faust]

Force

[Eevee]

blue

[faust]

Van

[Eevee]

blue

[faust]

Roof?

[Eevee]

blue

[faust]

Pass

[Eevee]

electricity: 3

[eHalcyon]

Charge

[gkrieg13]

Charge

is red

[eHalcyon]

Light

Update grid, somebody? Currently on mobile...

[Eevee]

red.

also on mobile unfortunately

[eHalcyon]

Kiss?

[silverspawn]

STOCK	LION	WIND	HAM	LOG
TURKEY	HOTEL	KISS	ROOF	SOUL
FLOWER	MOUSE	STRING	NURSE	DIAMOND
VAN	MILK	COTTON	TUBA	SCORPION
FORCE	LIGHT	MAJOR	SPINE	CHARGE

[Eevee]

neutral 

[eHalcyon]

neutral 

No worries, we're still doing fine anyway.

[gkrieg13]

BABY: 3

[faust]

Milk

[gkrieg13]

Milk

Blue

[faust]

Nurse

[gkrieg13]

Nurse

Blue

[faust]

Flower?

[gkrieg13]

Flower?

Neutral

[Eevee]

STOCK	LION	WIND	HAM	LOG
TURKEY	HOTEL	KISS	ROOF	SOUL
FLOWER	MOUSE	STRING	NURSE	DIAMOND
VAN	MILK	COTTON	TUBA	SCORPION
FORCE	LIGHT	MAJOR	SPINE	CHARGE

[Eevee]

luxury: 2

[eHalcyon]

Diamond

[Eevee]

red

[eHalcyon]

Hotel

[Eevee]

red

[eHalcyon]

Alright, for the win: Wind?

[Eevee]

Red! 👑👑👑

[gkrieg13]

Congrats.

I'm not sure how I would've gotten the last ones to all go together.  I think Physics: 2 would've been the clue, but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't get the right answers.

[Eevee]

We really had a dream set here, especially after you took away force.

[faust]

We really had a dream set here, especially after you took away force.

I feel like this kind of tactical play is an area in which we can still improve. What were those last blue words?

[Eevee]

Red goes first

STOCK	LION	WIND	HAM	LOG
TURKEY	HOTEL	KISS	ROOF	SOUL
FLOWER	MOUSE	STRING	NURSE	DIAMOND
VAN	MILK	COTTON	TUBA	SCORPION
FORCE	LIGHT	MAJOR	SPINE	CHARGE

[eHalcyon]

I don't know what the last Baby word would be. I would have guessed Cotton. I can see arguments for soul, maybe string, and log (which would be hilarious)

[gkrieg13]

I don't know what the last Baby word would be. I would have guessed Cotton. I can see arguments for soul, maybe string, and log (which would be hilarious)

It was supposed to be soul

[faust]

Blue goes first

LIGHT	ARM	CANDLE	RAY	EAGLE
NEW YORK	AZTEC	STRAW	TAIL	SLIP
ENGLAND	PILOT	PISTOL	HOLE	CANADA
BEIJING	ROW	DEGREE	SCALE	TAG
UNDERTAKER	BED	SERVER	CHARGE	STOCK

[faust]

Kelvin: 4

[faust]

Red goes first

STOCK	LION	WIND	HAM	LOG
TURKEY	HOTEL	KISS	ROOF	SOUL
FLOWER	MOUSE	STRING	NURSE	DIAMOND
VAN	MILK	COTTON	TUBA	SCORPION
FORCE	LIGHT	MAJOR	SPINE	CHARGE

Diagonal: 5 would have been such a good clue (and probably forbidden).

[silverspawn]

forbidden, sadly. If all clues were allowed, you could code all positions into the number beside your clue. something: 1412040916 etc

[gkrieg13]

degree

[faust]

degree

is blue

[gkrieg13]

scale

[faust]

is blue

[gkrieg13]

England?

[eHalcyon]

England?

Blue

[gkrieg13]

CANADA

[eHalcyon]

CANADA

Fortunately for us, that's Red!

Hollow: 3

[Eevee]

straw

[eHalcyon]

straw

Red

[Eevee]

hole

[eHalcyon]

hole

Red

[Eevee]

pistol

[eHalcyon]

pistol

I'm afraid that one is blue.  So we traded.

[faust]

Airport: 3

[gkrieg13]

LIGHT	ARM	CANDLE	RAY	EAGLE
NEW YORK	AZTEC	STRAW	TAIL	SLIP
ENGLAND	PILOT	PISTOL	HOLE	CANADA
BEIJING	ROW	DEGREE	SCALE	TAG
UNDERTAKER	BED	SERVER	CHARGE	STOCK

PILOT

[eHalcyon]

Pilot is blue

[gkrieg13]

New York?

[eHalcyon]

New York?

blue

[gkrieg13]

BEIJING

[eHalcyon]

blue

[gkrieg13]

Pass

[eHalcyon]

Number: 4

[Eevee]

Interesting.
stock

[faust]

is red

[Eevee]

row for the airport angle

[faust]

row for the airport angle

It's red.

[gkrieg13]

row for the airport angle

Wasn't airport my clue?

[Eevee]

row for the airport angle

Wasn't airport my clue?

*airline angle.

slip for betting slips and the like

[faust]

Also red.

[Eevee]

tag for price tags and such

[faust]

tag for price tags and such

Sorry, that's the assassin.

[faust]

LIGHT	ARM	CANDLE	RAY	EAGLE
NEW YORK	AZTEC	STRAW	TAIL	SLIP
ENGLAND	PILOT	PISTOL	HOLE	CANADA
BEIJING	ROW	DEGREE	SCALE	TAG
UNDERTAKER	BED	SERVER	CHARGE	STOCK

[faust]

Last Kelvin word was Candle, via Heat -> Fire.

I was going to do chandelier as my next clue for candle/arm, but I'm not sure if that would be allowed. I asked ehalc, but as the game is over now, I might as well ask all of you.

[eHalcyon]

Aw man, that was pretty awesome. I thought we needed a big play and spent a long time trying to think of something that could work. If only you had stuck with the airline theme and picked up tail number. Tag was totally reasonable though!

I think chandelier is fine.

[gkrieg13]

Last Kelvin word was Candle, via Heat -> Fire.

I was going to do chandelier as my next clue for candle/arm, but I'm not sure if that would be allowed. I asked ehalc, but as the game is over now, I might as well ask all of you.

I think I would've allowed it. Although I think there are ways to get around it like with menorah

[silverspawn]

tag for price tags and such

Sorry, that's the assassin.

how anti climactic.

[Eevee]

Aww.

I would have allowed chandelier. New game!

[eHalcyon]

tag for price tags and such

Sorry, that's the assassin.

how anti climactic.

I thought it was pretty climactic at this point in the game.  I gave a weird kind of clue and Eevee managed to nail 3/4 of the ones intended.

Out of curiosity, Eevee, do you think you would have gotten Light with your last guess Tag had been correct instead of Tail?  Also, you can start the next game yourself.

[Eevee]

Blue goes first

AGENT	TIE	CAST	TALE	PIRATE
NOTE	BUGLE	SPIDER	SOCK	PASTE
BLOCK	AZTEC	DRESS	FACE	HORSE
CANADA	BUG	TRIP	ROSE	WATCH
MINE	CENTER	PUPIL	GUITAR	BOLT

[Eevee]

No idea, I was just trying to get the 4 numbers first, and then look for the last one if I was still alive.

[gkrieg13]

animal: 3

[faust]

animal: 3

Again? Oh well.

Horse

[gkrieg13]

animal: 3

Again? Oh well.

Horse

blue.

Again with the clue?  Or again with the game?

[faust]

The clue. It's very reminiscent of red's first clue last game.

Spider

[gkrieg13]

The clue. It's very reminiscent of red's first clue last game.

Spider

Ahhh.  I understand where you are coming from on that.  the more I play this game, the more I think that it is very luck driven even if it doesn't really seem that way.

oh and blue

[faust]

Bug

[gkrieg13]

Bug

blue

[Eevee]

I assume you'll pass here.

Béatrice Martin: 4

[eHalcyon]

I thought we agreed on single word clues and Dominion cards/events/landmarks only?

[Eevee]

Ah, I thought it was excluding persons. Ehm. Hard to take it back now that you've seen it.

[gkrieg13]

I'm fine with the clue.  I think that people are a good form of multiple words.  I think that maybe the names of places or events should be avoided.

[eHalcyon]

I'm fine with the clue.  I think that people are a good form of multiple words.  I think that maybe the names of places or events should be avoided.

Well, the point of excluding multiple words in general was because we were starting to get into increasingly obscure and specific clues.  This falls into the same trap -- I have no idea who Beatrice Martin is.  Granted, maybe she is actually super famous and it's just my bad.

I haven't looked her up yet so I can still just ignore it.  Otherwise, we could say that the rule isn't in effect until next game.

[arcee]

Yeah, it's very good that the default rule as written is "one word".  The slope is so slippery, best to just stay roped to the peak.

[Eevee]

I think it helps you even if you don't google it, but I can reclue as well if that's what you guys think better.

[eHalcyon]

If nobody says anything in the next ~90 minutes, I'll just use the clue and we can bring in the stricter single-word rule next game.

[faust]

If nobody says anything in the next ~90 minutes, I'll just use the clue and we can bring in the stricter single-word rule next game.

I forgot to post, but that was what I meant to suggest.

[gkrieg13]

If nobody says anything in the next ~90 minutes, I'll just use the clue and we can bring in the stricter single-word rule next game.

Sounds good to me.

[eHalcyon]

OK, well, Pirate.

As it turns out, I recognize her stage name from somewhere but I have no idea when I might have heard or read it.

[Eevee]

red

[eHalcyon]

Canada

[Eevee]

red

[eHalcyon]

So those were the obvious ones.  Now moving to less obvious...

Rose? For her latest single...

[Eevee]

Neutral

[gkrieg13]

School: 3

edit: bolded it

[eHalcyon]

faust?

[faust]

Sorry. Forgot it was my turn...

Pupil

[gkrieg13]

Sorry. Forgot it was my turn...

Pupil

Ours

[faust]

Note

[gkrieg13]

AGENT	TIE	CAST	TALE	PIRATE
NOTE	BUGLE	SPIDER	SOCK	PASTE
BLOCK	AZTEC	DRESS	FACE	HORSE
CANADA	BUG	TRIP	ROSE	WATCH
MINE	CENTER	PUPIL	GUITAR	BOLT

[gkrieg13]

NOTE is BLUE

[faust]

Eh... Center?

[gkrieg13]

Eh... Center?

Also BLUE

[gkrieg13]

AGENT	TIE	CAST	TALE	PIRATE
NOTE	BUGLE	SPIDER	SOCK	PASTE
BLOCK	AZTEC	DRESS	FACE	HORSE
CANADA	BUG	TRIP	ROSE	WATCH
MINE	CENTER	PUPIL	GUITAR	BOLT

[faust]

Cool. Pass

[eHalcyon]

I'm glad you guys got Note out of the way because it may have been my next guess for Beatrice (music notes).

[eHalcyon]

Eevee?

[Eevee]

Sorry, midsummer festivities in Finland. I'll be back with a clue tomorrow.

[Eevee]

Instrument: 2 

[eHalcyon]

Guitar

Should have gone for something else!  Guitar would have been my next guess for Beatrice. (I somehow overlooked it earlier, but did catch it the other day.)

[Eevee]

Let's talk about it after the game!

Red

[eHalcyon]

Bugle

[Eevee]

red

[eHalcyon]

Maybe... Dress?

[gkrieg13]

Maybe... Dress?

DRESS is NEUTRAL

FERNANDO VARGAS: 3

[faust]

Uh. I know nothing about this person. But apparently he's a boxer. So I guess Block?

[gkrieg13]

Uh. I know nothing about this person. But apparently he's a boxer. So I guess Block?

I guess the cultural barrier is large on this one then.

BLOCK is BLUE

[faust]

Well. We're still in good shape. I think pass is better than guessing semi-randomly.

[Eevee]

AGENT	TIE	CAST	TALE	PIRATE
NOTE	BUGLE	SPIDER	SOCK	PASTE
BLOCK	AZTEC	DRESS	FACE	HORSE
CANADA	BUG	TRIP	ROSE	WATCH
MINE	CENTER	PUPIL	GUITAR	BOLT

Leave: 3

[LaLight]

Friends, can i participate in later games? I want to try

[eHalcyon]

Friends, can i participate in later games? I want to try

I see you've posted in the other thread to try to set up a new game. If that doesn't work out, I don't mind stepping out for a while so you have a chance. I'll be on a trip from Thursday to Saturday.   I think I should still be able to check in regularly, but you could play a few games in my place anyway, if you can't get the new game off the ground.


OK, Leave... Bolt

[gkrieg13]

Friends, can i participate in later games? I want to try

I see you've posted in the other thread to try to set up a new game. If that doesn't work out, I don't mind stepping out for a while so you have a chance. I'll be on a trip from Thursday to Saturday.   I think I should still be able to check in regularly, but you could play a few games in my place anyway, if you can't get the new game off the ground.


OK, Leave... Bolt

BOLT is RED

[eHalcyon]

Trip

[gkrieg13]

Trip

Red

[eHalcyon]

Cast

[gkrieg13]

Cast

Also Red.  You're on a roll!

[eHalcyon]

If I'm counting correctly, the only one that's left is the fourth Beatrice Martin word.  Pirate and Canada were easy, and Guitar should have been easy too (I just overlooked it).  I guessed Rose for her album, which I think was reasonable.  Then I guessed Dress as something that sort of vaguely works.  What is left...

Umm, as a musical artist I guess she would have an Agent? 

Fingers crossed as my track record on this one is not great.

[gkrieg13]

That one is neutral

[gkrieg13]

foot: 1

[faust]

So I guess I'll have to do something about that Fernando Vargas clue, huh?

But first, Sock.

[Eevee]

blue

[faust]

Let's do some good old PoE.

It's not Tie, because really, you would have given the clue Shoe for Sock/Tie.
It's not Tale, because Santa Claus would be a clue for Sock/Tale, and I see no convincing connecting to Vargas.
Is it Paste? I don't see how paste has anything to do with the clue. So I guess not.
It could be Aztec, if Vargas has some sort of Aztec ancestry, but I don't know about that and it doesn't feel right to google.
Face... well I guess people have faces, so there. However, it could just as well be the red word. Possibilities for that one run out too. Sock/Face also seems like a clueable combination.
Watch... well, you watch sports, that could be valid. You also watch concerts, so ugh, it could be red for the same reason.
Finally, Mint. Well, smell kinda works for sock/mint, no?

It seems like the possible words are also possible for red, which is ugh. However, Aztec seems like a stretch, so I'm going for Watch.

[gkrieg13]

Let's do some good old PoE.

It's not Tie, because really, you would have given the clue Shoe for Sock/Tie.
It's not Tale, because Santa Claus would be a clue for Sock/Tale, and I see no convincing connecting to Vargas.
Is it Paste? I don't see how paste has anything to do with the clue. So I guess not.
It could be Aztec, if Vargas has some sort of Aztec ancestry, but I don't know about that and it doesn't feel right to google.
Face... well I guess people have faces, so there. However, it could just as well be the red word. Possibilities for that one run out too. Sock/Face also seems like a clueable combination.
Watch... well, you watch sports, that could be valid. You also watch concerts, so ugh, it could be red for the same reason.
Finally, Mint. Well, smell kinda works for sock/mint, no?

It seems like the possible words are also possible for red, which is ugh. However, Aztec seems like a stretch, so I'm going for Watch.

Neutral

[silverspawn]

And now the watch is ended.

[Eevee]

Copy: 1

[faust]

Copy: 1

Is it Moat?

[eHalcyon]

Paste

I'm pretty sure I know the last Blue. My willingness to Google basically amounts to "skim the Wiki page" and there was a prominent detail about his nickname...

[Eevee]

Paste is red!

[gkrieg13]

Paste

I'm pretty sure I know the last Blue. My willingness to Google basically amounts to "skim the Wiki page" and there was a prominent detail about his nickname...

Ya I thought his nickname would be pretty well known, and it does come up in the google wikipedia thumbnail thing.

[eHalcyon]

So, what was the paste connection?

[faust]

Paste

I'm pretty sure I know the last Blue. My willingness to Google basically amounts to "skim the Wiki page" and there was a prominent detail about his nickname...

Ya I thought his nickname would be pretty well known, and it does come up in the google wikipedia thumbnail thing.

The trouble of having German wiki thumbnails.

[Eevee]

So, what was the paste connection?

There wasn't any, I couldn't connect all four, so I was just banking on them to miss (sock and aztec felt like a tough duo to pair at least).

Frankly, I had trouble connecting paste with any of our words all game. This was a very tough set!

[gkrieg13]

Paste

I'm pretty sure I know the last Blue. My willingness to Google basically amounts to "skim the Wiki page" and there was a prominent detail about his nickname...

Ya I thought his nickname would be pretty well known, and it does come up in the google wikipedia thumbnail thing.

The trouble of having German wiki thumbnails.

Ah of course.  And the Wikipedia page might have been hard to spot his nickname.  I was dubious that you would get sock from a boxer anyway as that is slang that you might not have heard before

[eHalcyon]

So, what was the paste connection?

There wasn't any, I couldn't connect all four, so I was just banking on them to miss (sock and aztec felt like a tough duo to pair at least).

Frankly, I had trouble connecting paste with any of our words all game. This was a very tough set!

Wait, so what was the fourth Beatrice Martin word?

[eHalcyon]

Also, consider me V/LA until Sunday.  Feel free to start a game with a replacement in the mean time!

[eHalcyon]

Wait, so what was the fourth Beatrice Martin word?

Still want to know this.

I'll start a new game?  Maybe in a few hours?

[gkrieg13]

Wait, so what was the fourth Beatrice Martin word?

Still want to know this.

I'll start a new game?  Maybe in a few hours?

Sounds good to me.

[Eevee]

Bugle, for the musical instrument connection.. it's not good.

Ready and eager to start!

[eHalcyon]

Red goes first

BOLT	MAPLE	KNIFE	PILOT	PARACHUTE
TOOTH	HORSE	BALL	IRON	SNOWMAN
BELT	NOVEL	HOOK	ICE	SOUL
PANTS	KING	TRIANGLE	SHAKESPEARE	BUCK
DOG	KETCHUP	DUST	SHOT	SMILE

[eHalcyon]

Let me start by trying Yoga: 3

[Eevee]

pants

[faust]

Pants is red.

[Eevee]

Hmm.

The (fewer than 10) times I've done yoga, they've sure have had us doing many dog poses?

[faust]

Dog is red.

[Eevee]

Well, Triangle

[faust]

Also red.

[Eevee]

Pass!

[faust]

Water: 3

[gkrieg13]

Ice

[faust]

Ice is blue.

[gkrieg13]

Snowman

[faust]

Also blue.

[gkrieg13]

Ketchup?

[eHalcyon]

Ketchup?

Ketchup is red... in real life, but here it is blue. You've got it.

[eHalcyon]

As I wait for an official Pass, can everyone confirm that we're now only allowing for single words with the sole exceptions being Dominion cards/events/landmarks?

[gkrieg13]

pass

and sure.

[Eevee]

confiirm

[eHalcyon]

I'm going to try a Dominion card then.

Royal Carriage: 4

[Eevee]

King

[eHalcyon]

Red

[Eevee]

Horse

[faust]

Horse is red.

[Eevee]

Pilot?

[faust]

Pilot is neutral.

[faust]

BOLT	MAPLE	KNIFE	PILOT	PARACHUTE
TOOTH	HORSE	BALL	IRON	SNOWMAN
BELT	NOVEL	HOOK	ICE	SOUL
PANTS	KING	TRIANGLE	SHAKESPEARE	BUCK
DOG	KETCHUP	DUST	SHOT	SMILE

[faust]

Well, uh...I feel that risks need to be taken at this point...

Neverland: 5

[gkrieg13]

hook

[faust]

Is blue.

[eHalcyon]

Well, uh...I feel that risks need to be taken at this point...

Neverland: 5

Man, since we didn't get at least 3 I feel like we're behind and need risks more than you.

[faust]

Well, uh...I feel that risks need to be taken at this point...

Neverland: 5

Man, since we didn't get at least 3 I feel like we're behind and need risks more than you.

But you still have only 2 word left that are "unclued".

[Eevee]

Getting the words right is the hard part!

[gkrieg13]

novel

[eHalcyon]

novel

Blue.

Fair enough, faust.  I think it's interesting (and good game design!) that Codenames creates pressure for both teams simultaneously.

[gkrieg13]

Dust

[eHalcyon]

Dust is red.

BOLT	MAPLE	KNIFE	PILOT	PARACHUTE
TOOTH	HORSE	BALL	IRON	SNOWMAN
BELT	NOVEL	HOOK	ICE	SOUL
PANTS	KING	TRIANGLE	SHAKESPEARE	BUCK
DOG	KETCHUP	DUST	SHOT	SMILE

Serrated: 2

[gkrieg13]

Darn I knew I should've read/watched Peter Pan.

[eHalcyon]

Darn I knew I should've read/watched Peter Pan.

Nah, fairy dust is totally a thing in Peter Pan.  faust may have overlooked it.  When I was thinking of clues, I kept coming up with great 3-4 word clues, but then triple-checking revealed some bad overlaps.

[Eevee]

I just watched the pilot of The night of, and a serrated knife came up. Was the first time I heard this word too.

[eHalcyon]

I just watched the pilot of The night of, and a serrated knife came up. Was the first time I heard this word too.

Well, Knife is red at least.  Hope you get the other one.

[Eevee]

tooth

[eHalcyon]

Red!

[Eevee]

And who said tv wasn't educating!

I'll guess that the royal carriage is going to a ball?

[faust]

Congratulations! It is red.

I was hoping that since Dust was clued by Royal Carriage, gkrieg wouldn't guess it. Plus, I had a really hard time connecting the words this time. It was that 5-clue or a 2-word clue, and that would have been too little.

[faust]

Complete grid:

BOLT	MAPLE	KNIFE	PILOT	PARACHUTE
TOOTH	HORSE	BALL	IRON	SNOWMAN
BELT	NOVEL	HOOK	ICE	SOUL
PANTS	KING	TRIANGLE	SHAKESPEARE	BUCK
DOG	KETCHUP	DUST	SHOT	SMILE

[Eevee]

Yay! I think this my first time getting all the words in 3 turns! With a little help from the blue team, of course.

Really great clues eHalcyon.

[Eevee]

Blue goes first

ANTARCTICA	WEB	WORM	AZTEC	CHURCH
WATER	DRESS	GAME	VALLEY	WAR
ROCK	INDIA	CRANE	JUPITER	HOLLYWOOD
POLICE	PASTE	DICE	SPINE	WHIP
FAN	NEEDLE	VACUUM	FENCE	JACK

[gkrieg13]

moses: 4

[eHalcyon]

Yay! I think this my first time getting all the words in 3 turns! With a little help from the blue team, of course.

Really great clues eHalcyon.

Funny thing, Ball was supposed to be for yoga. I was going to clue Triangle with Knife and Tooth (Pointy, after Hook was removed).

A few other clues I'd considered were Hunting Party 4 (but Buck!) and Cinderella (but Novel; I realized the Carriage alone would suffice, even for Dust).

Great guessing, Eevee!

[faust]

Water

[gkrieg13]

Water

Blue.

[faust]

Church

[gkrieg13]

Church

Blue

[faust]

Now I could go a number of ways...

As I walk through the valley of the shadow of death?

[eHalcyon]

Now I could go a number of ways...

As I walk through the valley of the shadow of death?

That's not Moses.

[faust]

Now I could go a number of ways...

As I walk through the valley of the shadow of death?

That's not Moses.

I'm aware. But close enough (hopefully).

[Eevee]

It is blue!

[faust]

I'm torn about that last one. I'll guess Rock, for the material the ten commandments were written on.

[Eevee]

It's also blue, well done!

[faust]

Whew. Pass then.

[eHalcyon]

I would have guessed Water followed by Rock immediately, for the water from the rock incident. May have gotten stuck on Valley though.

[faust]

I would have guessed Water followed by Rock immediately, for the water from the rock incident. May have gotten stuck on Valley though.

My Bible knowledge is... sketchy at best, so I'm very glad I got them all.

[Eevee]

I'm just home from a bachelor party, for the good of the team a clue shall wait until tomorrow.

[Eevee]

Sword: 4

[eHalcyon]

Several possibilities... I'll start with Fence.

[Eevee]

There ought to be several, it's a clue for 4 words!

Fence is red.

[eHalcyon]

Needle for GoT

[Eevee]

Needle is red.

[eHalcyon]

War is the last one with a super direct connection that I see.

[Eevee]

War is also red!

[eHalcyon]

Right now I'm seeing like 5 words with equal levels of connection. Not sure if I should guess...

[eHalcyon]

So there's one that's a strong connection for me, but I don't know if you were a fan of the show it's from. There's one that's a pun, another that is more related to the three other words than to Sword itself.  And then there are two that just feel tangentially related.

I'm going to guess the one that is related to the other words.

Game, for sports, GoT, war games.. the GoT connection especially feels big what with the Iron Throne.

[gkrieg13]

GAME is BLUE

[eHalcyon]

GAME is BLUE

 

Sorry Eevee!

[gkrieg13]

ANTARCTICA	WEB	WORM	AZTEC	CHURCH
WATER	DRESS	GAME	VALLEY	WAR
ROCK	INDIA	CRANE	JUPITER	HOLLYWOOD
POLICE	PASTE	DICE	SPINE	WHIP
FAN	NEEDLE	VACUUM	FENCE	JACK

[gkrieg13]

NECK: 2

[faust]

Spine

[gkrieg13]

Spine

Blue

[faust]

I don't really know about the other one... but I suppose the Aztecs lived on the neck of the Americas?

[gkrieg13]

I don't really know about the other one... but I suppose the Aztecs lived on the neck of the Americas?

RED

I'm just striking out today...

[eHalcyon]

Funny thing is, Aztec was one of the ones I was considering for Sword.  It was a really loose connection, like... "Ancient peoples like the Aztecs used swords as primary weapons".  The problem with seeing a bunch of words with possible loose connections is that even if it flips red, I'm not sure if it was intended.

[Eevee]

parka: 2

[eHalcyon]

Antarctica

[Eevee]

red

[eHalcyon]

Dress

And then the right move after that should be to pass, given the number of words remaining on both sides.

[gkrieg13]

It's red

sticky: 2

[faust]

Paste

[Eevee]

blue

[faust]

Web

[Eevee]

web is blue


edit: i mean blue!

[faust]

Err.... Crane?

[Eevee]

Err.... Blue!

[Eevee]

ANTARCTICA	WEB	WORM	AZTEC	CHURCH
WATER	DRESS	GAME	VALLEY	WAR
ROCK	INDIA	CRANE	JUPITER	HOLLYWOOD
POLICE	PASTE	DICE	SPINE	WHIP
FAN	NEEDLE	VACUUM	FENCE	JACK

[Eevee]

... wait! That's the game, isn't it?

[faust]

It should be. That last one was lucky.

[gkrieg13]

It should be. That last one was lucky.

Crane your neck is an expression that isn't used very much. Good job!  This win was the perfect birthday present!

[faust]

It should be. That last one was lucky.

Crane your neck is an expression that isn't used very much. Good job!  This win was the perfect birthday present!

I mostly thought "Well, they all don't really fit... but I assume gkrieg would have come up with a better connection for most of them. I know Crane has given me a hard time in another game, so I'll choose that one."

EDIT: Oh, and happy birthday!

[gkrieg13]

It should be. That last one was lucky.

Crane your neck is an expression that isn't used very much. Good job!  This win was the perfect birthday present!

I mostly thought "Well, they all don't really fit... but I assume gkrieg would have come up with a better connection for most of them. I know Crane has given me a hard time in another game, so I'll choose that one."

EDIT: Oh, and happy birthday!

Thanks!  Crane is a hard one, especially with jack there.

[Eevee]

Happy birthday gkrieg!

My clue would have been something in the line of Games: 2, shooting for dice and fan.

New game?

[gkrieg13]

Happy birthday gkrieg!

My clue would have been something in the line of Games: 2, shooting for dice and fan.

New game?

Sounds good to me.

[eHalcyon]

Congratulations! I thought the Neck word was going to be Whip.

Was Sword meant for Aztec, or for Fan? The Fan connection comes from ATLA but I couldn't remember if you were a fan or if you would remember that particular bit.

[Eevee]

For Aztec, for the reason you mentioned earlier. Do you think it's a good idea to go for loose connections such as that?

[eHalcyon]

For Aztec, for the reason you mentioned earlier. Do you think it's a good idea to go for loose connections such as that?

Possibly, but you have to be careful with other loose associations. I was torn on Aztec, Game, Paste (think "cut and paste"), Whip (weapons), Fan (from Avatar, Fan and Sword were the final elements of the gAang according to Sokka). No worries though, because I tend to push loose connections with my own clues, often to no avail.

[faust]

Red goes first

MODEL	CARD	HOOK	DINOSAUR	NET
PLATYPUS	LINK	HOLLYWOOD	BOOM	COFFEE
SHADOW	HAWK	PIE	ARM	SPELL
HORSE	TEMPLE	VACATION	JACK	DEATH
SEAL	BOOT	EUROPE	SOUL	GOLD

[eHalcyon]

Let's try...

Worker's Village: 4

[Eevee]

Card

[eHalcyon]

Card

Red.  Yeah, that's kind of a gimme, but now that it's out of the way maybe faust can try Dominion card names too.

[Eevee]

I am extremely confused.

Europe?

[faust]

It's red.

[Eevee]

I'm gonna pass, just have no clue.

[faust]

This one's going to be a leap of faith.

Angelus: 3

[gkrieg13]

TEMPLE?

[eHalcyon]

TEMPLE?

Blue

[gkrieg13]

Soul

[eHalcyon]

Soul

Blue

[gkrieg13]

Death?

[faust]

Death?

It's neutral.

[faust]

MODEL	CARD	HOOK	DINOSAUR	NET
PLATYPUS	LINK	HOLLYWOOD	BOOM	COFFEE
SHADOW	HAWK	PIE	ARM	SPELL
HORSE	TEMPLE	VACATION	JACK	DEATH
SEAL	BOOT	EUROPE	SOUL	GOLD

[eHalcyon]

I haven't forgotten about this.  I'm just double checking something with faust and waiting for his reply.

[eHalcyon]

Microphone: 3

[Eevee]

Aaww.

Model

[eHalcyon]

Aaww.

Model

Aaww is right -- Model is blue.

[Eevee]

Oh my heck.

[faust]

Kerouac: 3

[gkrieg13]

Jack

[eHalcyon]

Jack

Blue

[gkrieg13]

Hollywood

[eHalcyon]

Hollywood

So, this is another one of those games.  Hollywood is red.

[gkrieg13]

You guys really just wanted to give the other team clues!

[eHalcyon]

MODEL	CARD	HOOK	DINOSAUR	NET
PLATYPUS	LINK	HOLLYWOOD	BOOM	COFFEE
SHADOW	HAWK	PIE	ARM	SPELL
HORSE	TEMPLE	VACATION	JACK	DEATH
SEAL	BOOT	EUROPE	SOUL	GOLD

Oh man, let's just try a very simple Gun: 2.

[Eevee]

arm

[eHalcyon]

arm

red

[Eevee]

Man, am I struggling.

The workers in the village got to have their vacation days?

[faust]

Man, am I struggling.

The workers in the village got to have their vacation days?

Well... vacation is blue.

[Eevee]

Walking in the footsteps of the great Pablo Picasso, I'm now in my blue phase.

[faust]

This game is weird.

Plesiosaur: 2

[gkrieg13]

dinosaur

[gkrieg13]

Then the question is whether it looks more like a seal or a platypus.  I'm gonna go with seal.

seal

[eHalcyon]

Then the question is whether it looks more like a seal or a platypus.  I'm gonna go with seal.

seal

Blue.

I think you have one word to go?  Guess or pass?

[gkrieg13]

MODEL	CARD	HOOK	DINOSAUR	NET
PLATYPUS	LINK	HOLLYWOOD	BOOM	COFFEE
SHADOW	HAWK	PIE	ARM	SPELL
HORSE	TEMPLE	VACATION	JACK	DEATH
SEAL	BOOT	EUROPE	SOUL	GOLD

[gkrieg13]

This one's going to be a leap of faith.

Angelus: 3

I got TEMPLE and SOUL

Kerouac: 3

I got JACK

This game is weird.

Plesiosaur: 2

I got DINOSAUR and SEAL.

So two more kerouac clues, one more Angelus clue. 

I think vacation was probably a kerouac clue.  And maybe Seal was an Angelus clue?

Angelus coffee exists, so I guess

COFFEE?

[eHalcyon]

Once again, this is one of those games.

Coffee is Red.

Egg: 3

It would have been 4 for coffee (breakfast!) but now it is not.

[Eevee]

platypus

[eHalcyon]

platypus

red

[Eevee]

hawk

[eHalcyon]

hawk

red

[Eevee]

I'm torn between pie and gold for the last egg clue. I think you would have given plural if it was pie, and gold connects better with the earlier clues, so I'll say gold.

[eHalcyon]

I'm torn between pie and gold for the last egg clue. I think you would have given plural if it was pie, and gold connects better with the earlier clues, so I'll say gold.

Gold is red.

One more for the win!

[Eevee]

MODEL	CARD	HOOK	DINOSAUR	NET
PLATYPUS	LINK	HOLLYWOOD	BOOM	COFFEE
SHADOW	HAWK	PIE	ARM	SPELL
HORSE	TEMPLE	VACATION	JACK	DEATH
SEAL	BOOT	EUROPE	SOUL	GOLD

Worker's Village: 4

-Card
-Europe?
-Gold?

Microphone: 3

-Hollywood?
-Arm?

Gun: 2.

-Arm
-Gold

Egg: 3

-Platypus
-Hawk
-Gold


There is a net on a microphone, and I guess WW nets you more buys.

Net!

[faust]

There is a net on a microphone, and I guess WW nets you more buys.

Net!

Net is... ... ...         neutral!       

[faust]

Magic: 1

[Eevee]

Bleh!

[faust]

Bleh!

Never heard of net neutrality, huh?

[Eevee]

No, and I'm feeling quite blue about it.

[gkrieg13]

Magic: 1

SPELL

[faust]

It is blue! And it is finally done.

[faust]

MODEL	CARD	HOOK	DINOSAUR	NET
PLATYPUS	LINK	HOLLYWOOD	BOOM	COFFEE
SHADOW	HAWK	PIE	ARM	SPELL
HORSE	TEMPLE	VACATION	JACK	DEATH
SEAL	BOOT	EUROPE	SOUL	GOLD

[gkrieg13]

So what were the intended words for the clues?

[faust]

The Angelus clue was meant to refer to the Buffy character who has a vampire that had his human soul sealed in him again via a spell. Temple was never really part of it; I wanted to leave it because I thought Eevee might guess it as a Dominion card.

Kerouac was for Jack, Vacation and Spell. (Because the name is hard to spell. I know.)

[gkrieg13]

I figured out the Jack Kerouac thing after I had already guessed coffee.  Unfortunately I know nothing of Buffy lore, and that wasn't the first thing that came up when I googled it

[eHalcyon]

Worker's Village: 4
Card
Hollywood (like, it's a sort of literal description?)
Europe
Boom (as in Boom Town)

I wanted to go with Bustling Village first, but thought that it was too risky and could have been associated strongly with Temple, since they are from the same set.

Microphone: 3
Hollywood (used for filming)
Boom (it's a sound!)
Arm (you hold a microphone?)

And boom arms are a thing used in Hollywood.  That overall tight association is sketchy though, so I asked faust if he would allow it.

Gun: 2
Arm
Boom

I thought this one was so obvious too.

Egg: 3
Platypus
Hawk
Gold

It was originally going to be a 4 clue to go with Coffee.  I was waiting on this one from the start, but couldn't use it until Dinosaur was gone.

I had a bunch of other ideas, but there were always words on the board in the way.  A big one I had in mind was

Business: 5
Card
Hollywood
Coffee
Europe
Gold (profits and all)

But then there was Model, Vacation, Net...

[Eevee]

I feel boom is generally a very difficult word.

Gg's! I'm on mobile, someone else want to create a new one?

[gkrieg13]

I feel boom is generally a very difficult word.

Gg's! I'm on mobile, someone else want to create a new one?

Blue goes first

MINE	AZTEC	EMBASSY	MARK	DIAMOND
SERVER	SOUL	STRAW	SCHOOL	PRINCESS
FIGHTER	CARROT	DICE	EAGLE	PIN
TOKYO	SCIENTIST	MOLE	KEY	STADIUM
BACK	TAG	BARK	BOOM	WASHER

[silverspawn]

Boom: Boom

[gkrieg13]

Achicometl: 2

[faust]

Wow.

Aztec

[gkrieg13]

blue.

AZTEC is my least favorite word in the entire game, because no one really knows enough about their culture.

[faust]

But maybe not the word Aztec is at fault, or the game, but society?

My superficial googling tells me that this is somehow related to a Princess.

[gkrieg13]

blue

[Eevee]

Assuming pass.

Tōhoku: 3

[eHalcyon]

MINE	AZTEC	EMBASSY	MARK	DIAMOND
SERVER	SOUL	STRAW	SCHOOL	PRINCESS
FIGHTER	CARROT	DICE	EAGLE	PIN
TOKYO	SCIENTIST	MOLE	KEY	STADIUM
BACK	TAG	BARK	BOOM	WASHER

Tokyo

[Eevee]

Red

[eHalcyon]

I am really unsure now.  The only notable thing I really know about this place is the Fukushima disaster, but then I wonder why Fukushima wasn't the clue in the first place.

So, uh, Boom?

[gkrieg13]

I am really unsure now.  The only notable thing I really know about this place is the Fukushima disaster, but then I wonder why Fukushima wasn't the clue in the first place.

So, uh, Boom?

Boom is blue

[gkrieg13]

wrestling: 3

[faust]

wrestling: 3

I thought we had already established that this is not my area of expertise.

Well, stadium.

[gkrieg13]

Blue

[faust]

Well...I guess those wrestlers are Fighters.

[Eevee]

Uh uh!

Blue goes first

MINE	AZTEC	EMBASSY	MARK	DIAMOND
SERVER	SOUL	STRAW	SCHOOL	PRINCESS
FIGHTER	CARROT	DICE	EAGLE	PIN
TOKYO	SCIENTIST	MOLE	KEY	STADIUM
BACK	TAG	BARK	BOOM	WASHER

[gkrieg13]

Darn. I would personally say that wrestling isn't fighting, but I definitely took a risk there.

Gg

[eHalcyon]

All according to plan.

What were the other Tohoku words then?

[Eevee]

I was going for the university, school and scientist.

[Eevee]

New game?

[gkrieg13]

New game?

[faust]

New game!

Red goes first

CODE	TAIL	AMAZON	TUBA	MAPLE
VACATION	SHADOW	CRANE	STAFF	FINGER
TORCH	FIELD	NINJA	ROUND	SEAL
CHURCH	HORSE	SLUG	KETCHUP	CALF
SPY	AGENT	COVER	BELT	ENGLAND

[eHalcyon]

Music: 3

[Eevee]

Tuba

[faust]

Tuba is blue red.

[Eevee]

Blue?   

[faust]

Red. I mean red. Sorry.

[Eevee]

church

[faust]

But sadly, this one is blue for real.

[faust]

Battle: 3

[gkrieg13]

NINJA

[eHalcyon]

church

Darn.  I considered the possibility but didn't think it would be high on your list of guesses.

Ninja is blue.

[gkrieg13]

Field

[eHalcyon]

blue

[gkrieg13]

Torch

[eHalcyon]

Torch

Assassin.  Wow.

Eevee, care to guess what the other Music words were?  Also, my next clue would have been Covert: 4.  Was just waiting for Ninja to be removed.

[Eevee]

Hmm. Cover and finger?

Agent, spy, tail and code for covert?

New game incoming!

[Eevee]

Blue goes first

HOLE	CROSS	WALL	ROBIN	WASHER
DOG	ROCK	POOL	WHEEL	HAWK
LUCK	CLOUD	VACUUM	COVER	NOVEL
APPLE	BUFFALO	TUBA	MEXICO	RING
BEER	TABLET	MASS	MOUTH	ENGLAND

[faust]

Sorry about that last one. I didn't connect torch to battle very strongly, and was gunning for Horse.

[gkrieg13]

i: 3

[faust]

i: 3

Single letters are allowed?

Apple

[gkrieg13]

i: 3

Single letters are allowed?

Apple

I didn't read the rules. I thought they just weren't allowed if you're going for the first letter of words

[faust]

i: 3

Single letters are allowed?

Apple

I didn't read the rules. I thought they just weren't allowed if you're going for the first letter of words

Might be. I didn't read the rules either.

[gkrieg13]

Oh blue

[faust]

Tablet

[gkrieg13]

Blue

[faust]

I guess the complex numbers form a Ring.

[gkrieg13]

That one is red

[Eevee]

Lips: 3

[eHalcyon]

Hmm. Cover and finger?

Agent, spy, tail and code for covert?

New game incoming!

Staff was intended for Music. Cover and Finger were both on my mind but I thought Finger was iffy so I made it 3 instead of 4.

Covert would have been for Agent, Spy, Shadow and Cover. I knew Tail was a possibility. I thought Code would be lower on the list.

CODE	TAIL	AMAZON	TUBA	MAPLE
VACATION	SHADOW	CRANE	STAFF	FINGER
TORCH	FIELD	NINJA	ROUND	SEAL
CHURCH	HORSE	SLUG	KETCHUP	CALF
SPY	AGENT	COVER	BELT	ENGLAND

[eHalcyon]

Single letters are allowed if connected to meaning.

Mouth.

Also, I request a confirmation that Eevee did not misread Luck as Lick. Maybe discuss in private whether both Spymasters agree that giving such a confirmation is kosher though...

[eHalcyon]

Ehh, it's probably too much info to confirm either way. I rescind the request.

[gkrieg13]

mouth is red

[Eevee]

I considered shadow and cover as well, but thought cover - covert was so close that you meant for me to get cover off the board with the music clue.

[eHalcyon]

Blue goes first

HOLE	CROSS	WALL	ROBIN	WASHER
DOG	ROCK	POOL	WHEEL	HAWK
LUCK	CLOUD	VACUUM	COVER	NOVEL
APPLE	BUFFALO	TUBA	MEXICO	RING
BEER	TABLET	MASS	MOUTH	ENGLAND

Can't update right now, but Apple, Tablet, Ring are off the board.

Did we get Tuba again?

PPE: Cover was a possibility for music too, so that was fine. But keep in mind that clues can overlap, so since you didn't get Cover for music the first time, it would have counted for Covert too!

[gkrieg13]

yes you did.

[eHalcyon]

Beer?

[gkrieg13]

Beer?

red

[eHalcyon]

Nice. I pass.

[gkrieg13]

bet: 3

[faust]

Luck

[Eevee]

Blue

[faust]

Cloud (this one is still for i, in case you're wondering)

[Eevee]

cloud is blue.

[gkrieg13]

?

[faust]

Sorry, I forgot that it's still my turn.

I suppose Dog races are a thing?

[gkrieg13]

Dog is blue

[faust]

When you place a bet, you often make a Cross.

[gkrieg13]

When you place a bet, you often make a Cross.

darn.  cross is red

[Eevee]

Drill: 2

[eHalcyon]

HOLE	CROSS	WALL	ROBIN	WASHER
DOG	ROCK	POOL	WHEEL	HAWK
LUCK	CLOUD	VACUUM	COVER	NOVEL
APPLE	BUFFALO	TUBA	MEXICO	RING
BEER	TABLET	MASS	MOUTH	ENGLAND

Is that all up-to-date?

Hole

[gkrieg13]

HOLE	CROSS	WALL	ROBIN	WASHER
DOG	ROCK	POOL	WHEEL	HAWK
LUCK	CLOUD	VACUUM	COVER	NOVEL
APPLE	BUFFALO	TUBA	MEXICO	RING
BEER	TABLET	MASS	MOUTH	ENGLAND

Is that all up-to-date?

Hole

looks good.

red

[eHalcyon]

Rock

[gkrieg13]

You are sneaking around looking for operatives.  You have a pretty good team going so far.  "HOLE!" , you call out.  Another red operative comes out of the shadows and joins you.

"ROCK", you call out.  A man comes around the corner with a gun pointed at you.  Before you can run, he shoots.  You're dead.

Rock was the Assassin

[gkrieg13]

HOLE	CROSS	WALL	ROBIN	WASHER
DOG	ROCK	POOL	WHEEL	HAWK
LUCK	CLOUD	VACUUM	COVER	NOVEL
APPLE	BUFFALO	TUBA	MEXICO	RING
BEER	TABLET	MASS	MOUTH	ENGLAND

[Eevee]

Omg!

[silverspawn]

hey guys, the goal of he game isn't to hit the assasin as often as possible. I think you're doing something wrong

[faust]

Moar games!

Blue goes first

MILLIONAIRE	TELESCOPE	CREAM	COTTON	CROSS
BOARD	SUIT	FORCE	TURKEY	MUG
CARD	CELL	BOX	PIANO	IRON
KEY	BUG	QUEEN	PRIVATE	LAB
CARROT	LEMON	NINJA	JACK	FIGURE

[faust]

Bento: 4

[eHalcyon]

Omg!

Drill makes more sense for Rock than for Wall... 

[faust]

Omg!

Drill makes more sense for Rock than for Wall... 

I have to agree.

[gkrieg13]

box

[eHalcyon]

box

blue

[gkrieg13]

carrot then turkey

[eHalcyon]

carrot then turkey

Carrot is blue.

Turkey is red.

[eHalcyon]

Crescendo: 3

[faust]

carrot then turkey

Uh.. I don't think this should be allowed. Too much information for the spymaster if the first one is wrong.

[gkrieg13]

carrot then turkey

Uh.. I don't think this should be allowed. Too much information for the spymaster if the first one is wrong.

But I could literally say anything as the guesser. Like I can say the five things I think work for bento and then only choose four of them.

[eHalcyon]

Yeah, it seems fine to me. IRL the discussion among guessers is far more informative to the Spymaster and among the things that people find most enjoyable about the game. It's only a problem if a team tries to take advantage of it, e.g. asking for a certain clue if this or a different clue if that. We've self-censored a little in this game, but in general I think it's OK to voice suspicions.

[faust]

Yeah, it seems fine to me. IRL the discussion among guessers is far more informative to the Spymaster and among the things that people find most enjoyable about the game. It's only a problem if a team tries to take advantage of it, e.g. asking for a certain clue if this or a different clue if that. We've self-censored a little in this game, but in general I think it's OK to voice suspicions.

I thought it was not allowed, because if it was, I would just always tell my spymaster all the words that I consider before placing a guess; not doing so seems like bad play then.

[gkrieg13]

Yeah, it seems fine to me. IRL the discussion among guessers is far more informative to the Spymaster and among the things that people find most enjoyable about the game. It's only a problem if a team tries to take advantage of it, e.g. asking for a certain clue if this or a different clue if that. We've self-censored a little in this game, but in general I think it's OK to voice suspicions.

I thought it was not allowed, because if it was, I would just always tell my spymaster all the words that I consider before placing a guess; not doing so seems like bad play then.

This is very true. I just thought the norm was not not saying anything so I haven't been. Normally you say all of the words you're thinking about and really talk it through your thought process

[Eevee]

piano

[eHalcyon]

This is very true. I just thought the norm was not not saying anything so I haven't been. Normally you say all of the words you're thinking about and really talk it through your thought process

Likewise.  An easy example -- consider what the game would be like playing with teams of 3.  After the spymaster gives their clue, are you not allowed to discuss with your partner what words to guess?  Do you have to whisper to each other, or does the spymaster have to plug their ears?  Typically you just discuss freely (and the spymaster does their level best to keep a straight face).

So yeah, it's just something to leave up to discretion of the group.  A little thing like gkrieg's two guesses is totally fine IMO.  Something like, "I'm torn between these words... I'll go with this" would be fine by me too, though this group so far has mostly avoided that.

[eHalcyon]

piano

red

[Eevee]

telescope

[eHalcyon]

telescope

Blue, unfortunately!

[eHalcyon]

MILLIONAIRE	TELESCOPE	CREAM	COTTON	CROSS
BOARD	SUIT	FORCE	TURKEY	MUG
CARD	CELL	BOX	PIANO	IRON
KEY	BUG	QUEEN	PRIVATE	LAB
CARROT	LEMON	NINJA	JACK	FIGURE

[faust]

So yeah, it's just something to leave up to discretion of the group.  A little thing like gkrieg's two guesses is totally fine IMO.  Something like, "I'm torn between these words... I'll go with this" would be fine by me too, though this group so far has mostly avoided that.

Well, it would be nice to know what's allowed and what isn't. Where is the line?

[faust]

Pandemic: 3

[Eevee]

Man, I thought it was really clever too!

[gkrieg13]

board-> cross -> private

[eHalcyon]

So yeah, it's just something to leave up to discretion of the group.  A little thing like gkrieg's two guesses is totally fine IMO.  Something like, "I'm torn between these words... I'll go with this" would be fine by me too, though this group so far has mostly avoided that.

Well, it would be nice to know what's allowed and what isn't. Where is the line?

By nature, the line is fuzzy.  I guess it's up to the spymasters, yeah?  I'm saying I'm OK with stuff like pre-guessing.  If you insist, we could stop it now.  I'm fine either way.  But this "extra" info is helping you, not me, so...

IMO, it's just a good faith thing.  If a guesser wants to share their thoughts or hesitations or whatever, it's probably fine.  If a guesser is trying to game the system with a code or whatever else, that's bad.  I trust that nobody here has any intention of cheating.

board-> cross -> private

Board is blue.  Cross is red.

MILLIONAIRE	TELESCOPE	CREAM	COTTON	CROSS
BOARD	SUIT	FORCE	TURKEY	MUG
CARD	CELL	BOX	PIANO	IRON
KEY	BUG	QUEEN	PRIVATE	LAB
CARROT	LEMON	NINJA	JACK	FIGURE

[eHalcyon]

Soft: 2

[faust]

IMO, it's just a good faith thing.  If a guesser wants to share their thoughts or hesitations or whatever, it's probably fine.  If a guesser is trying to game the system with a code or whatever else, that's bad.  I trust that nobody here has any intention of cheating.

Well I don't know if I'm cheating if I don't know the rules. Before this conversation, I felt that telling my partner all words I'm considering before guessing is cheating, and now I don't, so I always will do that.

Also  I thought my clue was pretty good and honestly don't really see the cross connection. (Red Cross maybe? But hey, that should be an alarm bell right there!)

[silverspawn]

I also think that's cheating.

[Eevee]

cotton

[Eevee]

I'm going on a holiday (France, yayy!), might be a little slow in responding until tuesday.

[faust]

Cotton is red.

[gkrieg13]

IMO, it's just a good faith thing.  If a guesser wants to share their thoughts or hesitations or whatever, it's probably fine.  If a guesser is trying to game the system with a code or whatever else, that's bad.  I trust that nobody here has any intention of cheating.

Well I don't know if I'm cheating if I don't know the rules. Before this conversation, I felt that telling my partner all words I'm considering before guessing is cheating, and now I don't, so I always will do that.

Also  I thought my clue was pretty good and honestly don't really see the cross connection. (Red Cross maybe? But hey, that should be an alarm bell right there!)

Well in the real game each team usually has a couple of guessers. It is very common to say " I think I missed these two from that last clue so those will be the first ones I guess for the next clue"

Also the logo of the game is a cross, and many elements of the game have crosses in them!

[Eevee]

uhm, cream?

[faust]

Uhm, red!

[faust]

Well in the real game each team usually has a couple of guessers. It is very common to say " I think I missed these two from that last clue so those will be the first ones I guess for the next clue"

Sure. But in my mind, it's more like a "this cannot be avoided" kind of thing rather than being intentional. Similar to how in IRL mafia games you have the "he moved while we had our eyes closed" tell. There is no reason to think that this should be emulated when playing forum mafia.

[eHalcyon]

Well in the real game each team usually has a couple of guessers. It is very common to say " I think I missed these two from that last clue so those will be the first ones I guess for the next clue"

Sure. But in my mind, it's more like a "this cannot be avoided" kind of thing rather than being intentional. Similar to how in IRL mafia games you have the "he moved while we had our eyes closed" tell. There is no reason to think that this should be emulated when playing forum mafia.

Mafia is a social deduction game where meta tells like movement are to be avoided, to the point where people try to find ways to mask it (e.g. "everybody please move a little").

Codenames is marketed as a party game where the team discussion is a big part of the fun.  People could certain avoid it (e.g. whispered discussions, sending Spymaster away while discussing, or even having a no discussion rule so the team members just alternate guessing on their own or something)  but I've never heard of a group doing that.

[Eevee]

force

[eHalcyon]

force

Red. That's guess 3 so our turn is over. Good job!

[faust]

well, this is awkward.

Public: 0

[gkrieg13]

MILLIONAIRE	TELESCOPE	CREAM	COTTON	CROSS
BOARD	SUIT	FORCE	TURKEY	MUG
CARD	CELL	BOX	PIANO	IRON
KEY	BUG	QUEEN	PRIVATE	LAB
CARROT	LEMON	NINJA	JACK	FIGURE

PRIVATE -> CARD -> LAB

[faust]

What? Why? Do you know what 0 means?

Private is red.

[gkrieg13]

What? Why? Do you know what 0 means?

Private is red.

Doesn't it mean it isn't related to it?

Private is the opposite of public, so I thought it was another clue for that one.

sorry about that.

[faust]

Doesn't it mean it isn't related to it?

Private is the opposite of public, so I thought it was another clue for that one.

sorry about that.

Well, yes it means it's not related. If one word is the opposite of another, they are related. Also I already knew you were going to guess Private, so why would I clue that again?

[gkrieg13]

Doesn't it mean it isn't related to it?

Private is the opposite of public, so I thought it was another clue for that one.

sorry about that.

Well, yes it means it's not related. If one word is the opposite of another, they are related. Also I already knew you were going to guess Private, so why would I clue that again?

I guess that's true.  My bad

[eHalcyon]

Doesn't it mean it isn't related to it?

Private is the opposite of public, so I thought it was another clue for that one.

sorry about that.

Well, yes it means it's not related. If one word is the opposite of another, they are related. Also I already knew you were going to guess Private, so why would I clue that again?

I guess that's true.  My bad

Haha, I wouldn't blame you for that.  We ran into this problem in an earlier game!  I can't remember the exact set but I tried to use [opposite]: 0 and instead they avoided my intended word entirely.  I think it might have been Light and Shadow.

[eHalcyon]

So yeah, Private is Red.

Unlock: 1

[Eevee]

key

[eHalcyon]

key

Is red.  Good game.

[Eevee]

I would have taken key last turn if I could. Might be that I feel the need to say this because I didn't really have to do much to win this one.

I'm only on mobile access until tuesday, could gkrieg create a new game for us?

[gkrieg13]

So I'm guessing our others were card, lab, ninja, lemon, figure?

[gkrieg13]

Also

Red goes first

CREAM	CORNER	CHOCOLATE	KID	BRUSH
SOUND	SERVER	GREECE	TRUNK	TABLET
SHADOW	COURT	CAST	CENTER	TALE
TRACK	ROBIN	NEW YORK	CAR	LIFE
BREAD	CODE	MOLE	AMERICA	CONDUCTOR

[Eevee]

Let's try mascara: 3

[eHalcyon]

So I'm guessing our others were card, lab, ninja, lemon, figure?

MILLIONAIRE	TELESCOPE	CREAM	COTTON	CROSS
BOARD	SUIT	FORCE	TURKEY	MUG
CARD	CELL	BOX	PIANO	IRON
KEY	BUG	QUEEN	PRIVATE	LAB
CARROT	LEMON	NINJA	JACK	FIGURE

Almost. It was Bug,  not Card.

[eHalcyon]

Let's try mascara: 3

Brush

[gkrieg13]

Red

[eHalcyon]

Shadow?

[Eevee]

red

[eHalcyon]

Cream

[gkrieg13]

Cream

Red

[eHalcyon]

Pass. 

[gkrieg13]

Wicked: 4

[faust]

Wicked: 4

That is one wicked clue.

I would guess but for both our sakes, I shall wait until uh I've slept and my blood alcohol level is lower.

[faust]

Cast

[faust]

I'm guessing the clue is mostly for the musical... so Sound and Tale are valid clues. But for this combination of words, Musical would work just as well for the clue, so there has to be something specific to this one which I don't know yet.

[gkrieg13]

Cast

Blue

[faust]

Tale

[gkrieg13]

Red

[faust]

Red

[Eevee]

CREAM	CORNER	CHOCOLATE	KID	BRUSH
SOUND	SERVER	GREECE	TRUNK	TABLET
SHADOW	COURT	CAST	CENTER	TALE
TRACK	ROBIN	NEW YORK	CAR	LIFE
BREAD	CODE	MOLE	AMERICA	CONDUCTOR

[Eevee]

Etiquette: 2

[eHalcyon]

Umm, Etiquette is a kind of social Code?

[gkrieg13]

Umm, Etiquette is a kind of social Code?

Red

[eHalcyon]

Etiquette means having Courtly graces?

[Eevee]

Neutral

[gkrieg13]

iRound: 3

[faust]

iRound: 3

I believe that gkrieg is some sort of secret Apple advertiser.

Well, Tablet for sure. For the other two, well Server and Track would make some sense. But it's a hospital thingy, right? So maybe something more hospital-related? Life is the only only I can think of, and that connection is kinda meh.

Also good thing Code is gone. That would have definitely been a top guess for this one.

[Eevee]

blue

[faust]

Track

[gkrieg13]

Track

blue

[faust]

Better to first do safer stuff.

Sound

[gkrieg13]

Better to first do safer stuff.

Sound

Neutral

[faust]

I'm really confused right now.

[gkrieg13]

I'm really confused right now.

Sorry

[Eevee]

Hathi: 2

[eHalcyon]

I don't really have a good guess for the remaining Etiquette clue and I only see one for Hathi right now: Trunk.  I'll have to think some more on a second guess.

[Eevee]

red

[eHalcyon]

CREAM	CORNER	CHOCOLATE	KID	BRUSH
SOUND	SERVER	GREECE	TRUNK	TABLET
SHADOW	COURT	CAST	CENTER	TALE
TRACK	ROBIN	NEW YORK	CAR	LIFE
BREAD	CODE	MOLE	AMERICA	CONDUCTOR

OK, so Wicked still counts for up to 3.  iRound is missing 1.

Etiquette is probably missing 1.  Hathi is missing 1.

Uhh... yeah I don't know.  I'm going to guess Kid because of Mowgli.

[gkrieg13]

Kid is Blue

[gkrieg13]

Melanoma: 3

[faust]

Mole

[gkrieg13]

Mole

blue

[faust]

Life

[gkrieg13]

Life

blue

[gkrieg13]

CREAM	CORNER	CHOCOLATE	KID	BRUSH
SOUND	SERVER	GREECE	TRUNK	TABLET
SHADOW	COURT	CAST	CENTER	TALE
TRACK	ROBIN	NEW YORK	CAR	LIFE
BREAD	CODE	MOLE	AMERICA	CONDUCTOR

[faust]

Really not sure which clue I should best use.

But the Broadway is in New York.

[eHalcyon]

Life

blue

Welp, Life was the other one I was considering alongside Kid.

[gkrieg13]

Really not sure which clue I should best use.

But the Broadway is in New York.

blue

[faust]

That is seven out of eight, right?

We have:

Wicked: Cast, New York, Kid (?), Life?
iRound: Tablet, Track, Life
Melanoma: Mole, Life, ?

I guess there is a big skin cancer risk when spending your holiday in Greece?

[gkrieg13]

Neutral

[Eevee]

 Crust: 2

[eHalcyon]

Bread

And I don't have a good second guess... all these 2 clues aren't working out for me. >_>

Will have to guess anyway.

[gkrieg13]

Bread

And I don't have a good second guess... all these 2 clues aren't working out for me. >_>

Will have to guess anyway.

bread is red

[eHalcyon]

The only thing thing left that makes sense for "etiquette" is Server, I think.  I hope it wasn't meant for iRound.

[gkrieg13]

The only thing thing left that makes sense for "etiquette" is Server, I think.  I hope it wasn't meant for iRound.

Neutral

middle: 1

[eHalcyon]

I need answers! We had a strong lead and then I just never got more than 1 off of any clue.

[faust]

Center

[gkrieg13]

Center

Blue

That one was a tough one.

[faust]

True. I'm very interested in what the clues were all for.

[gkrieg13]

Red goes first

CREAM	CORNER	CHOCOLATE	KID	BRUSH
SOUND	SERVER	GREECE	TRUNK	TABLET
SHADOW	COURT	CAST	CENTER	TALE
TRACK	ROBIN	NEW YORK	CAR	LIFE
BREAD	CODE	MOLE	AMERICA	CONDUCTOR

Wicked was for New York, Cast, Kid, Life, Mole.  I thought it was the story of the wicked witches, so Life was loosely associated. I totally didn't even see sound or Tale.  That was my bad.

iRound was Tablet, Track, and Life again.

Melanoma was Mole and Life, and I felt like you could still get New York, and then Center was a long shot, because that is where you get treated for Melanoma.

[eHalcyon]

So I guess Crust was supposed to be for Corner? Etiquette for Corner? Maybe Hathi too because he's like a military general or something?

[Eevee]

I was going for code of conduct with etiquette. Hathi was trunk and conductor (the marching scene from The Jungle Book, he had the stick and everything). Crust was corner and bread.

Should we switch teams up again? I feel bad for dissappointing eHalcyon all the time!

[faust]

I did at multiple points consider Conductor as another word for Wicked. Guess we got lucky with that.

We can switch teams if you like.

[eHalcyon]

I was going for code of conduct with etiquette. Hathi was trunk and conductor (the marching scene from The Jungle Book, he had the stick and everything). Crust was corner and bread.

Should we switch teams up again? I feel bad for dissappointing eHalcyon all the time!

It's a group effort. Now that it's explained, it makes total sense. Don't feel bad!

[teamlyle]

Hey, could I play? 

[silverspawn]

that rhymed!

[Eevee]

I'd like to still play!

[gkrieg13]

Same here.

[faust]

Same here.

[eHalcyon]

Oops, I have been distracted by Pokemon.

Someone start the next round?  I can later if nobody else does.  And if teamlyle wants to jump in, I don't mind offering him my place for a little while (but you should post in the main thread and see if there are people interested in starting a new game).

[gkrieg13]

I think we have had all the combinations of teams right?

I think the first set were me/eHalcyon vs. Eevee/silverspawn, so maybe we should go back to those teams?

That would put me with teamlyle, and Eevee with faust.

[faust]

Let's do it then. I'll start with me/gkrieg as spymasters.

Blue: Eevee/me
Red: teamlyle/gkrieg

Blue goes first

VACATION	RIVER	HOOK	KISS	DRESS
ROUND	CODE	FARM	AMERICA	SHADOW
BERRY	SPY	DEATH	GOLD	ELECTRIC
FIRE	MOSCOW	BRUSH	HEART	DISEASE
DOOR	DAY	BUCK	CASINO	MARCH

[faust]

Fishing: 3

[Eevee]

River -> hook

[gkrieg13]

blue x 2

[Eevee]

vacation (->pass)

[faust]

It's blue as well! I think this new team is starting out nicely

[Eevee]

Great clue.

[gkrieg13]

Tin: 3

[teamlyle]

Electric > gold >heart

Fingers crossed!

[gkrieg13]

Electric > gold >heart

Fingers crossed!

All 3 are red

[teamlyle]

Yay!!!!!

[faust]

I assume it's pass after that.

Kandinsky: 3

[Eevee]

moscow

[faust]

Is blue.

[Eevee]

brush

[faust]

Brush is blue.

[Eevee]

Pass

[gkrieg13]

VACATION	RIVER	HOOK	KISS	DRESS
ROUND	CODE	FARM	AMERICA	SHADOW
BERRY	SPY	DEATH	GOLD	ELECTRIC
FIRE	MOSCOW	BRUSH	HEART	DISEASE
DOOR	DAY	BUCK	CASINO	MARCH

[gkrieg13]

Wow totally spaced this thread. 

SOLDIER: 3

[teamlyle]

america > march > death > pass

[gkrieg13]

america > march > death

All are red. Wow you're killing it!

[teamlyle]

Thanks! That was a good clue

[faust]

We're back! This is a tight game.

Gotta try it I guess. Minecraft: 3

[Eevee]

Uh oh.

Code

[gkrieg13]

Uh oh.

Code

Is red!

rasp: 1

[faust]

Uh oh.

Code

Well, that was the danger. But I couldn't find another way to connect the remaining 3.

[teamlyle]

berry

[gkrieg13]

berry

Nice! Red

Wow I don't think I've ever had a game that smooth

[Eevee]

What were our words?

[faust]

VACATION	RIVER	HOOK	KISS	DRESS
ROUND	CODE	FARM	AMERICA	SHADOW
BERRY	SPY	DEATH	GOLD	ELECTRIC
FIRE	MOSCOW	BRUSH	HEART	DISEASE
DOOR	DAY	BUCK	CASINO	MARCH

Round was the final one for Kandinsky (because he liked geomtric shapes), and then Day, Door, Farm for Minecraft. Those were really hard to combine, but I felt that Red was very likely to win if we didn't get everything.

[Eevee]

Blue goes first

HEAD	BREAK	PYRAMID	MINT	STREAM
BUG	TAG	MAMMOTH	GROUND	COURT
BALL	NIGHT	SPY	ROCK	CAKE
PRINCESS	PLASTIC	CROWN	TOKYO	BAND
CHICK	ENGLAND	TORCH	AMERICA	POISON

[teamlyle]

So I'm guessing it's my turn to be spymaster? Should I go now, or are you guys blue?

[Eevee]

Prosperity: 2


You guys are red, you are the spymaster. I pm'd the grid to you!  I hope.

[Eevee]

Bump!

[faust]

I kinda forgot that I'm now on a team with Eevee... sorry about that.

Man, there are a lot of Dominion cards in that grid.

Mint is definitely the first one. The second is kinda hard. Going by the Dominion theme, Court would work for King's Court. On the other hand, Courtyard is in Intrigue.

I'll take -> Pyramid, because a culture building pyramids has to be pretty prosperous.

Pass after that.

[Eevee]

Mint is blue

Pyramid is red. 

[faust]

Well, the last game started off good and only went dow from there. So here, not starting off very well should be a good sign, right?

[Eevee]

Hopefully!

[teamlyle]

Firefly: 2

[gkrieg13]

BUG -> TORCH -> Pass

[teamlyle]

Bug is red

Torch is blue 

[Eevee]

Wambach: 4

[faust]

Generally not a good sign if I have to google the word before guessing... well, let's see.

America -> Ball

These are for sure; after that, well, I look for generally soccer-aligned words, but my knowledge of English soccer slang is sorely lacking. Also I cannot help but think that there is some reason for choosing that particular player.

Well, she's a striker, so Head is third.

After that, let's go Court for the first clue.

I wonder if I should make another guess... but I think not. Court could be a stretch for Wambach too (because court soccer is a thing), and if all those guesses are right, we have 3 words left... that sounds like a good amount.

So Pass after this.

[Eevee]

All blue! Very well done.

[teamlyle]

Manhunt: 3

[gkrieg13]

HEAD	BREAK	PYRAMID	MINT	STREAM
BUG	TAG	MAMMOTH	GROUND	COURT
BALL	NIGHT	SPY	ROCK	CAKE
PRINCESS	PLASTIC	CROWN	TOKYO	BAND
CHICK	ENGLAND	TORCH	AMERICA	POISON

[gkrieg13]

Uh, I have no clue on this one.

night because of firefly
Mammoth?  I mean men hunt them.
break?  I am guessing this is in reference to the video game, which is horror stealth related.
TAG?  I mean the game is kind of like a man hunt

[Eevee]

Night is red.

[Eevee]

Mammoth is neutral

[gkrieg13]

Mammoth is neutral

Well that is one of the saddest things I've experienced

[faust]

Eevee sure knows how to build the suspense.

[Eevee]

At least to me these block guesses -> block reveals take some of it out, so I thought that'd be more fun.

Botox: 3

[faust]

At least to me these block guesses -> block reveals take some of it out, so I thought that'd be more fun.

Botox: 3

I hear you. But not doing them is game-theoretically suboptimal as long as we allow them.

Well, let's build some suspense at least.

Poison -> Plastic

[Eevee]

I don't mind the guesses being blocks, but the reveals can at least be made exciting!

Poison is blue

[Eevee]

Plastic is











blue

[faust]

Hmmm...

Princess

[Eevee]

Princess is...




neutral

[Eevee]

HEAD	BREAK	PYRAMID	MINT	STREAM
BUG	TAG	MAMMOTH	GROUND	COURT
BALL	NIGHT	SPY	ROCK	CAKE
PRINCESS	PLASTIC	CROWN	TOKYO	BAND
CHICK	ENGLAND	TORCH	AMERICA	POISON

[teamlyle]

Sorry for my poor performance this game!

Descole: 5

[gkrieg13]

It's not your fault.

spy-> England

[eHalcyon]

At least to me these block guesses -> block reveals take some of it out, so I thought that'd be more fun.

I hear you. But not doing them is game-theoretically suboptimal as long as we allow them.

That's false!  This extra information may help your spymaster provide you with better clues, but it can also help the other side!  For example, as the opposing spymaster, I once decided on a different clue because you (or gkrieg?) indicated a suspicion for a word that was one of ours!  Instead of going with a clue that would cover that word, I picked a different clue to leave that option up as a trap.  Can't remember if that worked out, but it was a thing.

Also, if you indicate a suspicion for something correct but an earlier guess stops the chain, that can influence the opposing guesser!  For example, gkrieg's above chain of guesses was stopped by Mammoth, but he mentioned break and tag as follow-ups.  Maybe faust will now avoid those words if he thinks gkrieg's reasoning makes sense.

[faust]

At least to me these block guesses -> block reveals take some of it out, so I thought that'd be more fun.

I hear you. But not doing them is game-theoretically suboptimal as long as we allow them.

That's false!  This extra information may help your spymaster provide you with better clues, but it can also help the other side!  For example, as the opposing spymaster, I once decided on a different clue because you (or gkrieg?) indicated a suspicion for a word that was one of ours!  Instead of going with a clue that would cover that word, I picked a different clue to leave that option up as a trap.  Can't remember if that worked out, but it was a thing.

Also, if you indicate a suspicion for something correct but an earlier guess stops the chain, that can influence the opposing guesser!  For example, gkrieg's above chain of guesses was stopped by Mammoth, but he mentioned break and tag as follow-ups.  Maybe faust will now avoid those words if he thinks gkrieg's reasoning makes sense.

Sure, it can help the other team. So can flat-out guessing if you guess the wrong word. That doesn't prove that you should make no guesses. I think overall the benefits outweigh the costs. And even if the other team does not make suggestions, you should keep in mind anyway what their remaining words could be based on their clues, and act accordingly.

[Eevee]

Red and...







red!

[gkrieg13]

Let's go tag next

[Eevee]

Also red!

[gkrieg13]

Break?

[teamlyle]

That's also red!

[gkrieg13]

HEAD	BREAK	PYRAMID	MINT	STREAM
BUG	TAG	MAMMOTH	GROUND	COURT
BALL	NIGHT	SPY	ROCK	CAKE
PRINCESS	PLASTIC	CROWN	TOKYO	BAND
CHICK	ENGLAND	TORCH	AMERICA	POISON

[gkrieg13]

HEAD	BREAK	PYRAMID	MINT	STREAM
BUG	TAG	MAMMOTH	GROUND	COURT
BALL	NIGHT	SPY	ROCK	CAKE
PRINCESS	PLASTIC	CROWN	TOKYO	BAND
CHICK	ENGLAND	TORCH	AMERICA	POISON

So I think this is where I am at this point.

Firefly was bug and night,
Manhunt was tag, break, ??
Descole was spy, England, ??

I think rock probably makes the most sense?  I don't think Descole ever wore a crown, if I remember correctly, and ground and band just don't really work?  Also Manhunt was developed by Rockstar games, so...

ROCK?

[teamlyle]

neutral

gg

[gkrieg13]

neutral

gg

Darn.  So close

[faust]

HEAD	BREAK	PYRAMID	MINT	STREAM
BUG	TAG	MAMMOTH	GROUND	COURT
BALL	NIGHT	SPY	ROCK	CAKE
PRINCESS	PLASTIC	CROWN	TOKYO	BAND
CHICK	ENGLAND	TORCH	AMERICA	POISON

So I think this is where I am at this point.

Firefly was bug and night,
Manhunt was tag, break, ??
Descole was spy, England, ??

I think rock probably makes the most sense?  I don't think Descole ever wore a crown, if I remember correctly, and ground and band just don't really work?  Also Manhunt was developed by Rockstar games, so...

ROCK?

I know it's not intentional, but it can be misleading if you post a grid with colors that haven't actually been revealed. Let's not do that.

[gkrieg13]

HEAD	BREAK	PYRAMID	MINT	STREAM
BUG	TAG	MAMMOTH	GROUND	COURT
BALL	NIGHT	SPY	ROCK	CAKE
PRINCESS	PLASTIC	CROWN	TOKYO	BAND
CHICK	ENGLAND	TORCH	AMERICA	POISON

So I think this is where I am at this point.

Firefly was bug and night,
Manhunt was tag, break, ??
Descole was spy, England, ??

I think rock probably makes the most sense?  I don't think Descole ever wore a crown, if I remember correctly, and ground and band just don't really work?  Also Manhunt was developed by Rockstar games, so...

ROCK?

I know it's not intentional, but it can be misleading if you post a grid with colors that haven't actually been revealed. Let's not do that.

Sorry, I figured that at this point, I either needed to win, or you guys would easily get the win.  I wouldn't do that in the middle of the game, I was just trying to figure out our last word.

[eHalcyon]

At least to me these block guesses -> block reveals take some of it out, so I thought that'd be more fun.

I hear you. But not doing them is game-theoretically suboptimal as long as we allow them.

That's false!  This extra information may help your spymaster provide you with better clues, but it can also help the other side!  For example, as the opposing spymaster, I once decided on a different clue because you (or gkrieg?) indicated a suspicion for a word that was one of ours!  Instead of going with a clue that would cover that word, I picked a different clue to leave that option up as a trap.  Can't remember if that worked out, but it was a thing.

Also, if you indicate a suspicion for something correct but an earlier guess stops the chain, that can influence the opposing guesser!  For example, gkrieg's above chain of guesses was stopped by Mammoth, but he mentioned break and tag as follow-ups.  Maybe faust will now avoid those words if he thinks gkrieg's reasoning makes sense.

Sure, it can help the other team. So can flat-out guessing if you guess the wrong word. That doesn't prove that you should make no guesses. I think overall the benefits outweigh the costs. And even if the other team does not make suggestions, you should keep in mind anyway what their remaining words could be based on their clues, and act accordingly.

My point was that it's not necessarily/always sub-optimal. Sometimes the right move is to not guess. I'm pretty sure even you have opted not to take every guess available to you.

[Eevee]

hen: 1

[faust]

Well... Chick.

[Eevee]

Blue!

[Eevee]

Gg! New game?

[teamlyle]

Good game! You guys played well.

My clues probably could've been better this game. Firefly was night and bug (I probably should have chosen cricket or something instead), manhunt was tag, night, and spy, and Descole was spy, england, ground, and break (and I was hoping you would guess tag from the previous clue, which is why I said 5 instead of 4.)

[faust]

Good game! You guys played well.

My clues probably could've been better this game. Firefly was night and bug (I probably should have chosen cricket or something instead), manhunt was tag, night, and spy, and Descole was spy, england, ground, and break (and I was hoping you would guess tag from the previous clue, which is why I said 5 instead of 4.)

If you say 5, that means that clues are for 5 words. You could have said 4 and gkrieg is always allowed to guess one more, and it would have given him the hint that the last word is for an earlier clue.

[faust]

New game!

Red goes first

SLIP	STREAM	COFFEE	INDIA	TUBE
ROSE	ALIEN	HOLLYWOOD	MEXICO	TRIANGLE
MERCURY	FORCE	BUTTON	WINTER	MOUNT
PYRAMID	CHARGE	VACUUM	PITCH	MILLIONAIRE
ROUND	PLANE	BERMUDA	BANK	PUPIL

[gkrieg13]

Bollywood:  2

[teamlyle]

Hollywood > India > pass

[gkrieg13]

Hollywood > India > pass

Both red

[faust]

Essos: 4

[Eevee]

Pyramid

[faust]

Pyramid is blue.

[Eevee]

bank

[faust]

Blue as well.

[Eevee]

Mount

[faust]

Mount is blue.

[Eevee]

Great!

I will try winter.

[faust]

Winter is coming blue.

[faust]

SLIP	STREAM	COFFEE	INDIA	TUBE
ROSE	ALIEN	HOLLYWOOD	MEXICO	TRIANGLE
MERCURY	FORCE	BUTTON	WINTER	MOUNT
PYRAMID	CHARGE	VACUUM	PITCH	MILLIONAIRE
ROUND	PLANE	BERMUDA	BANK	PUPIL

[Eevee]

Pass!

[gkrieg13]

air: 3

[teamlyle]

Vacuum > plane > tube > pass

[gkrieg13]

Vacuum is neutral.

[teamlyle]

Sorry

[gkrieg13]

Sorry

No problem. Not a great clue. Totally missed vacuum

[faust]

Let's do something exciting!

Dalek: 4

[Eevee]

alien

[faust]

Alien is blue!

[Eevee]

force

[faust]

force

It's red. Sorry.

[Eevee]

My bad, I'm not an expert on Daleks.

[gkrieg13]

eye: 2

[teamlyle]

Hmmm... I guess pupil

And plane because of air

I guess eyes are also round, not the strongest connection but I can't see anything better on the board

[gkrieg13]

All red!

[teamlyle]

Yay!!

[faust]

SLIP	STREAM	COFFEE	INDIA	TUBE
ROSE	ALIEN	HOLLYWOOD	MEXICO	TRIANGLE
MERCURY	FORCE	BUTTON	WINTER	MOUNT
PYRAMID	CHARGE	VACUUM	PITCH	MILLIONAIRE
ROUND	PLANE	BERMUDA	BANK	PUPIL

[faust]

Battery: 2

[teamlyle]

Wait isn't force red?

SLIP	STREAM	COFFEE	INDIA	TUBE
ROSE	ALIEN	HOLLYWOOD	MEXICO	TRIANGLE
MERCURY	FORCE	BUTTON	WINTER	MOUNT
PYRAMID	CHARGE	VACUUM	PITCH	MILLIONAIRE
ROUND	PLANE	BERMUDA	BANK	PUPIL

P.S. I changed my avatar!

[faust]

Right, forgot about that one. Sorry!

[Eevee]

Charge

[faust]

Charge is blue.

[Eevee]

Nice avatar teamlyle!

mercury

[faust]

Mercury is blue!

[Eevee]

I'm going to risk it and guess just based on googling: Rose

[gkrieg13]

I'm going to risk it and guess just based on googling: Rose

Also blue.  Congrats!

[faust]

Nice

[Eevee]

Blue goes first

BERMUDA	WASHINGTON	GREECE	AMAZON	SCREEN
TAG	EAGLE	MERCURY	KISS	CLUB
CALF	LITTER	AUSTRALIA	COURT	ROOF
MOON	STAFF	FLUTE	WALL	MISSILE
BILL	HORSE	CHAIR	POOL	FOREST

[Eevee]

American: 6

[faust]

What a clue!

Let's see what fits... Washington and Eagle for sure. The rest is harder...

Amazon is an American company. Also the Amazon is in South America.
Wall because Donald Trump.
Missile because they like bombing stuff.
Bill because Clinton.
Horse because it was a Native American chief.

Let's do
Washington -> Eagle -> Amazon -> Horse -> Bill -> Wall -> Pass

[Eevee]

Washington and Eagle are blue

[Eevee]

As is Amazon

[Eevee]

Horse is red

[faust]

I did wonder whether that "American Horse" reference might have been too obscure.

[Eevee]

Yeah, got to admit I didn't even think of that.

We can still win this though!

[teamlyle]

Olympics: 5

[gkrieg13]

Pool and court

[Eevee]

Red and red!

[gkrieg13]

Greece then screen then staff

[teamlyle]

Greece and screen are red

staff is blue

[Eevee]

Clue coming tomorrow, it's crayfish (party) season, I'm out of pocket all of tonight.

[Eevee]

BERMUDA	WASHINGTON	GREECE	AMAZON	SCREEN
TAG	EAGLE	MERCURY	KISS	CLUB
CALF	LITTER	AUSTRALIA	COURT	ROOF
MOON	STAFF	FLUTE	WALL	MISSILE
BILL	HORSE	CHAIR	POOL	FOREST

Lips: 2

[faust]

Is there any special reasoning behind the black coloring for Wall?

Anyway,

Kiss -> Flute -> Bill

[Eevee]

Just me missclicking around the matrix, fixed.

All blue. Good job!

[teamlyle]

Inada: 3

[faust]

gkrieg?

[gkrieg13]

Chair

[teamlyle]

Chair is red

[gkrieg13]

Calf?

[Eevee]

red

[gkrieg13]

Tag?

[Eevee]

Tag is blue!

[Eevee]

Triangle: 1

[faust]

Bermuda

[Eevee]

Yay!

BERMUDA	WASHINGTON	GREECE	AMAZON	SCREEN
TAG	EAGLE	MERCURY	KISS	CLUB
CALF	LITTER	AUSTRALIA	COURT	ROOF
MOON	STAFF	FLUTE	WALL	MISSILE
BILL	HORSE	CHAIR	POOL	FOREST

[faust]

Which were all the American words? I don't quite get to 6.

[gkrieg13]

I almost went for Australia too

[faust]

And the next one!

Blue goes first

GRASS	BANK	DAY	CANDLE	SCIENTIST
MARCH	FINGER	DEGREE	TUBA	SUB
WINE	TRAIN	FIELD	DROP	NEW YORK
PHOENIX	CARROT	LASER	SHARK	HAWK
LEMON	LAWYER	BUG	DICE	NURSE

EDIT: Somehow copied the wrong table. Sorry!

[faust]

Waxing: 3

[Eevee]

Which were all the American words? I don't quite get to 6.

They were Bermuda, Washington, Amazon, Bill, eagle, and Kiss (for the band which is american). Missile is a better fit than Kiss so maybe not the best to include it, but felt fun.

[faust]

I copied the wrong table. It's fixed now!

[Eevee]

Man was I confused with your clue!

candle

[gkrieg13]

Man was I confused with your clue!

candle

is blue

[silverspawn]

[Eevee]

laser

[faust]

Laser is blue.

[Eevee]

Pass, I have no clue.

[faust]

Pass, I have no clue.

But you have a clue, I gave it to you!

[gkrieg13]

botonist: 4

[teamlyle]

Let's see... a botanist studies plants. So let's do grass and scientist

I guess a botanist could have a degree.

Also, a carrot is a plant and so carrot and then pass.

[faust]

Grass is blue.

Sorry, that's harsh. :/

[faust]

Down: 2

[faust]

GRASS	BANK	DAY	CANDLE	SCIENTIST
MARCH	FINGER	DEGREE	TUBA	SUB
WINE	TRAIN	FIELD	DROP	NEW YORK
PHOENIX	CARROT	LASER	SHARK	HAWK
LEMON	LAWYER	BUG	DICE	NURSE

[Eevee]

drop

[faust]

Is blue.

[Eevee]

sub?

[faust]

Blue as well.

[teamlyle]

Grass is blue.

Sorry, that's harsh. :/

Sorry gkrieg

[Eevee]

pass 

[gkrieg13]

Robbery: 3

[teamlyle]

bank

[gkrieg13]

bank

Red!  We got one on the board!

[teamlyle]

scientist

lawyer

[gkrieg13]

scientist

lawyer

Both red

[teamlyle]

Gotta make a guess... carrot

[faust]

Carrot is red!

[teamlyle]

I guess it's your guys' turn

[faust]

Sorry about the delay.

Philharmonic: 2

[Eevee]

tuba

[gkrieg13]

tuba

Blue.  If tuba is on the board next game, faust should just auto guess it.

[silverspawn]

[Eevee]

march

[gkrieg13]

march

is Neutral

[gkrieg13]

caterpie: 3

[teamlyle]

GRASS	BANK	DAY	CANDLE	SCIENTIST
MARCH	FINGER	DEGREE	TUBA	SUB
WINE	TRAIN	FIELD	DROP	NEW YORK
PHOENIX	CARROT	LASER	SHARK	HAWK
LEMON	LAWYER	BUG	DICE	NURSE

[teamlyle]

bug -> field

[gkrieg13]

bug -> field

Both red

[teamlyle]

Sorry for the delay. I was stressing over forum survivor

day

[gkrieg13]

Day is neutral.

[Eevee]

GRASS	BANK	DAY	CANDLE	SCIENTIST
MARCH	FINGER	DEGREE	TUBA	SUB
WINE	TRAIN	FIELD	DROP	NEW YORK
PHOENIX	CARROT	LASER	SHARK	HAWK
LEMON	LAWYER	BUG	DICE	NURSE

[Eevee]

Am I allowed to ponder the earlier clues before faust gives his now? Definitely feel like it would be a big advantage for us, but it also feels a little against the spirit of the game, even if it isn't any different from pondering them when giving my guesses. Gray area, thoughts?

[gkrieg13]

Am I allowed to ponder the earlier clues before faust gives his now? Definitely feel like it would be a big advantage for us, but it also feels a little against the spirit of the game, even if it isn't any different from pondering them when giving my guesses. Gray area, thoughts?

Not a gray area, definitely allowed.

[Eevee]

Ok!

Well, I feel pretty strongly that I know the second word for philharmonic, and feel rather dumb for guessing freaking march over it. Might be that I don't of course.

[faust]

Helicopter: 2

[Eevee]

New York

Next guess will come tomorrow.

[faust]

New York is blue.

[Eevee]

hawk

[faust]

Hawk is blue.

[Eevee]

train

[gkrieg13]

train

Is red

[gkrieg13]

lime: 1

[teamlyle]

lemon

[gkrieg13]

lemon

Yay!  Nice job!

[Eevee]

Nooooooooooo!

[faust]

Sorry :/ I had a really tough time connecting our words. Also I realized too late that Down would also have worked for Hawk.

Our last word was Nurse, both for Waxing and Helicopter.

[Eevee]

Meh. Went for "ways of transport", and I guess you need training to fly a helicopter.

New game?

[faust]

Sure!

[Eevee]

Blue goes first

SCIENTIST	MISSILE	NOTE	SOUND	WORM
IRON	CENTAUR	LION	TUBA	VACUUM
ORGAN	CALF	PLASTIC	RABBIT	FARM
PLOT	CROSS	AZTEC	PYRAMID	MOUSE
COURT	ALPS	CARROT	TAG	TURKEY

[Eevee]

Ecclesiastical: 3

[faust]

Is that a word?

[faust]

Okay, got it. Cross

[Eevee]

Blue!

[faust]

Organ

[Eevee]

Blue

[faust]

The last one is tough... I feel like I should learn something from the fact that you didn't choose church as the clue. Part of me just wants to auto-guess tuba.

Well I don't know... but I seem to remember that the church has its own jurisdiction. Which would be held in ecclesiastical Courts.

[Eevee]

Blue!

[faust]

Yay

Pass obviously.

[teamlyle]

SCIENTIST   MISSILE   NOTE   SOUND   WORM
IRON   CENTAUR   LION   TUBA   VACUUM
ORGAN   CALF   PLASTIC   RABBIT   FARM
PLOT   CROSS   AZTEC   PYRAMID   MOUSE
COURT   ALPS   CARROT   TAG   TURKEY/

Music: 3

[gkrieg13]

note -> sound-> and then regrettably tuba

[teamlyle]

All red!

[gkrieg13]

Pass

[Eevee]

Mercury: 3

[faust]

I think I used that same clue before!

I see a couple things that seem loosely connected to this clue... I'll gather my thoughts.

Scientist has a sort of general connection to both the chemical element and the planet.
Iron is a metal like Mercury.
Centaur has a general mythology connection.
Vacuum is a space-related clue.
The Aztecs were into astronomy.

Okay, so definitely Mercury was chosen because of its multiple meanings. We won't get something like Scienist/Vacuum/Aztec which would all relate to the astronomy angle. The Centaur connection is weak. I can't off the top of my head recall a prominent centaur in Greek mythology, though they probably exist.

So...

Iron -> Vacuum -> Scientist (-> Pass)

[Eevee]

Well yes please! All are blue.

[faust]

Yay

[silverspawn]

at 9/9 this is probably the cleanest game yet.

teamlyle, it is imperative that you make another successful 3-clue next.

[teamlyle]

SCIENTIST   MISSILE   NOTE   SOUND   WORM
IRON   CENTAUR   LION   TUBA   VACUUM
ORGAN   CALF   PLASTIC   RABBIT   FARM
PLOT   CROSS   AZTEC   PYRAMID   MOUSE
COURT   ALPS   CARROT   TAG   TURKEY

Trashing: 3

[gkrieg13]

Missile?
Plot
Worm?

[Eevee]

missile is neutral

[Eevee]

Griffin: 2

[faust]

Lion -> Centaur -> Pass

[Eevee]

Blue, blue!

[teamlyle]

Sorry gkrieg 

Orwell: 5

[gkrieg13]

Plot farm rabbit for starters

[teamlyle]

All red

[gkrieg13]

Mouse

[teamlyle]

Red

[gkrieg13]

Oh man. Pyramid or turkey 

Pyramid?

[Eevee]

Pyramid is neutral.

[Eevee]

Vegetable: 1

[silverspawn]

is it

       Plastic?

[faust]

Carrot

[Eevee]

Blue, yay!

[Eevee]

Blue goes first

SCIENTIST	MISSILE	NOTE	SOUND	WORM
IRON	CENTAUR	LION	TUBA	VACUUM
ORGAN	CALF	PLASTIC	RABBIT	FARM
PLOT	CROSS	AZTEC	PYRAMID	MOUSE
COURT	ALPS	CARROT	TAG	TURKEY

[teamlyle]

By the way, "trashing" was a really vague clue, but it was supposed to be farm, mouse, and plot, because farmland, rats, and plan were all cards that could trash things 

[gkrieg13]

By the way, "trashing" was a really vague clue, but it was supposed to be farm, mouse, and plot, because farmland, rats, and plan were all cards that could trash things 

I looked at farm and thought farming village doesn't trash anything!

[faust]

Those were some great clues, Eevee!

[Eevee]

New game, guys?

[faust]

Sure!

Red goes first

PLATYPUS	CREAM	KISS	BED	GOLD
COOK	BELL	STAFF	DUCK	MILLIONAIRE
POUND	WELL	NIGHT	BOMB	KING
SPRING	GLASS	WATER	TOWER	MARBLE
TAG	PISTOL	PALM	STAR	GREEN

[gkrieg13]

RESTAURANT: 5

[teamlyle]

Cook>duck>water>glass>staff>pass

[gkrieg13]

Nice. Red red red red red

[faust]

Police: 3

[Eevee]

pistol

[gkrieg13]

pistol

blue

[Eevee]

Frustrates me to no end I can't figure this out. I'm trying to find the connection to either the band or the job, but I just don't see it. I would say cook if it wasn't already gone. :/

night, and I have no faith in this guess.

[gkrieg13]

Frustrates me to no end I can't figure this out. I'm trying to find the connection to either the band or the job, but I just don't see it. I would say cook if it wasn't already gone. :/

night, and I have no faith in this guess.

blue

[Eevee]

pound?

[gkrieg13]

Neutral

[gkrieg13]

water: 2

[teamlyle]

well>spring?

[gkrieg13]

Well is blue

[faust]

I suppose it's our turn again.

Versailles: 3

[Eevee]

Sorry, my guess will have to wait until tomorrow. It's coming though!

[Eevee]

Okay, here we go.

King

[gkrieg13]

Okay, here we go.

King

Blue

[faust]

Bump.

[Eevee]

Marble

[gkrieg13]

blue

[Eevee]

Gold

[gkrieg13]

Gold

Also blue

[Eevee]

Yay!

Pass

[gkrieg13]

milk: 2

[teamlyle]

Cream

[gkrieg13]

Cream

Red

[schadd]

i think i know what the other one is

[teamlyle]

PLATYPUS	CREAM	KISS	BED	GOLD
COOK	BELL	STAFF	DUCK	MILLIONAIRE
POUND	WELL	NIGHT	BOMB	KING
SPRING	GLASS	WATER	TOWER	MARBLE
TAG	PISTOL	PALM	STAR	GREEN

spring

[faust]

Spring is neutral.

[faust]

Graffiti: 2

[Eevee]

Tag

[faust]

Is blue.

[Eevee]

I can't not say bomb, but I'm a little worried it could be one other word.

[gkrieg13]

I can't not say bomb, but I'm a little worried it could be one other word.

Nice. Blue

[Eevee]

Don't call it a comeback!

[faust]

This game sure took a long time.

[Eevee]

I was very slow, have had a busy two weeks.

Everyone still want to go and start a new one?

[gkrieg13]

BTW I totally gave the water clue in a rush and forgot to look at the rest of the board.  It was meant to be BED and TOWER, but WELL and SPRING definitely fit better. 

The other MILK clue was PLATYPUS

[gkrieg13]

I was very slow, have had a busy two weeks.

Everyone still want to go and start a new one?

yep

[faust]

I was very slow, have had a busy two weeks.

Everyone still want to go and start a new one?

aye!

[schadd]

The other MILK clue was PLATYPUS

i did indeed know what it was

[teamlyle]

Sorry, I'm not sure how the spreadsheet works so I can't post another board.

[Eevee]

Red goes first

DUST	DROP	PITCH	BRAZIL	BUGLE
WEB	LONDON	MODEL	SPIDER	PASTE
GROUND	WAR	SPINE	MUG	WITCH
BAY	FIELD	FLY	COMIC	RABBIT
GOLD	FIGHTER	IVORY	BOOT	ENGINE

[faust]

So do we start?

[Eevee]

Did you get the pm, teamlyle?

[teamlyle]

Sorry for the delay

craft: 3

[gkrieg13]

witch -> war -> paste -> pass and -2 points for star not being on the board

[teamlyle]

Witch is blue

I see you're now a board moderator, congrats!

[gkrieg13]

Witch is blue

I see you're now a board moderator, congrats!

Thanks!  So is faust!

[Eevee]

City: 2

[faust]

London -> Model -> Pass

[Eevee]

Ouch! London is blue, but model is the assassin.

DUST	DROP	PITCH	BRAZIL	BUGLE
WEB	LONDON	MODEL	SPIDER	PASTE
GROUND	WAR	SPINE	MUG	WITCH
BAY	FIELD	FLY	COMIC	RABBIT
GOLD	FIGHTER	IVORY	BOOT	ENGINE

Gg! We had such a good start too. New game?

[gkrieg13]

Wow. I think that is the only way we could've won that one. War would've definitely been my next craft guess

[Eevee]

Yeah, such an unnecessary risk by me. Classic Eevee.

[faust]

Even after seeing the grid, I'm still unsure what the second city word is supposed to be.

[Eevee]

Brazil. I guess capital would have been better, but I was worried about gold.

[faust]

Olympics might have worked for these two

[faust]

Anyway, new game!

Blue goes first

STRIKE	COOK	CHECK	PIZZA	CHICK
PISTOL	PITCH	LIFE	SHADOW	CROWN
OIL	SOUND	HORN	SNOWMAN	DOG
ROOF	ROUND	MOSCOW	TAG	TABLET
ROOT	PRESS	BUGLE	TEA	STICK

Olive: 4

[teamlyle]

bump

[Eevee]

Thanks! Had missed this.

pizza

[faust]

Pizza is blue.

[Eevee]

oil

[faust]

is blue

[Eevee]

Root

[faust]

Root is blue.

[Eevee]

Cook

[faust]

Blue as well

[Eevee]

Pass!

[gkrieg13]

fire: 3

[teamlyle]

STRIKE   COOK   CHECK   PIZZA   CHICK
PISTOL   PITCH   LIFE   SHADOW   CROWN
OIL   SOUND   HORN   SNOWMAN   DOG
ROOF   ROUND   MOSCOW   TAG   TABLET
ROOT   PRESS   BUGLE   TEA   STICK

pistol

[gkrieg13]

STRIKE   COOK   CHECK   PIZZA   CHICK
PISTOL   PITCH   LIFE   SHADOW   CROWN
OIL   SOUND   HORN   SNOWMAN   DOG
ROOF   ROUND   MOSCOW   TAG   TABLET
ROOT   PRESS   BUGLE   TEA   STICK

pistol

Neutral

[faust]

Tune: 4

[Eevee]

pitch

[faust]

Pitch is blue.

[Eevee]

Sound

[gkrieg13]

Sound

blue

[Eevee]

Pass

[gkrieg13]

tsar: 2

[teamlyle]

moscow

[gkrieg13]

moscow

red

[eHalcyon]

So, funny thing, when I stepped out I thought it would only be for 1-2 games.  But then you guys kept going, and I didn't mind too much because I was spending most free time on Pokemon Go.  I'm not really checking this thread much, but if anyone ever needs a substitute then message me and I'll be happy to jump back in.  I remain occupied by Pokemon Go so it's all good either way.

[Eevee]

You can have my seat next game. 

[teamlyle]

crown

then stick because of fire

[gkrieg13]

crown

then stick because of fire

Both red

[faust]

Investigative: 2

[Eevee]

Press

[gkrieg13]

Press

blue

[Eevee]

check

[faust]

check is blue.

[Eevee]

Pass

[faust]

...gkrieg?

[gkrieg13]

house: 4

[teamlyle]

STRIKE	COOK	CHECK	PIZZA	CHICK
PISTOL	PITCH	LIFE	SHADOW	CROWN
OIL	SOUND	HORN	SNOWMAN	DOG
ROOF	ROUND	MOSCOW	TAG	TABLET
ROOT	PRESS	BUGLE	TEA	STICK

[teamlyle]

Roof -> life -> tea -> dog -> shadow

[faust]

Red -> Red -> Neutral

[faust]

Rhinoceros: 1

[Eevee]

Horn!

[gkrieg13]

Horn!

Gg.

I think I need to sit out the next one (although we actually got pretty close with that Hail Mary clue. Just really busy for a bit

[teamlyle]

What were our other words?

[faust]

STRIKE	COOK	CHECK	PIZZA	CHICK
PISTOL	PITCH	LIFE	SHADOW	CROWN
OIL	SOUND	HORN	SNOWMAN	DOG
ROOF	ROUND	MOSCOW	TAG	TABLET
ROOT	PRESS	BUGLE	TEA	STICK

[Watno]

anyone feel like some more of this?

[Jack Rudd]

I'd be up for it.

[ipofanes]

yes. yes I am.

[gkrieg13]

When I get back from being out of town in a week, I was wondering if anyone would be interested in playing this with pictures instead of words.  I could always upload a picture of the grid (I have the game at home) if there isn't anything online.  Then the spymasters could generate a grid for it saying whose pictures are whose.

[Eevee]

I would play if there is room. I'd prefer the word version, but would be play either one.

[gkrieg13]

I would play if there is room. I'd prefer the word version, but would be play either one.

Have you played the picture version?

[Eevee]

I would play if there is room. I'd prefer the word version, but would be play either one.

Have you played the picture version?

Once, in person, and this was a while back. Maybe it's the way my brain works, but it didn't feel like you got to be that creative in that game. The given pictures might have been too easy, I don't remember exactly. I just remember we only played that once and switched back to the word version after.

[gkrieg13]

I would play if there is room. I'd prefer the word version, but would be play either one.

Have you played the picture version?

Once, in person, and this was a while back. Maybe it's the way my brain works, but it didn't feel like you got to be that creative in that game. The given pictures might have been too easy, I don't remember exactly. I just remember we only played that once and switched back to the word version after.

I read that as "Once, in prison" the first read through.  I have found that pictures is a lot more difficult to come up with linking connections than words.  They definitely feel like different games

[Eevee]

I'm a good kid, haven't been to prison yet.

[gkrieg13]

I'm a good kid, haven't been to prison yet.

I wish I could +1 this.

[Eevee]

Shall we get this party started?

[ipofanes]

I'd love to start with 6+ in order to have discussions between agents.

[ghostofmars]

If you still need a player I would play.

[Eevee]

If we have Watno, Mr Rudd,  ipofanes, gkrieg, myself and ghostofmars, that'd make six.

[Watno]

I'm not really available until Tuesday.
If we go for more than 4 players, I'd strongly prefer discussion between teammates to be in spoiler tags with the spymasters not being allowed to read them.

[Eevee]

I too actually prefer 4 player, but I'm game for anything.

[Jack Rudd]

I strongly prefer the word version to the picture version.

[ipofanes]

I'm not really available until Tuesday.
If we go for more than 4 players, I'd strongly prefer discussion between teammates to be in spoiler tags with the spymasters not being allowed to read them.

That'd be a nice variant from the standard game, plus the delayed frustration for spymaster after the fact promises some hilarity.

[crax]

I'm not really available until Tuesday.
If we go for more than 4 players, I'd strongly prefer discussion between teammates to be in spoiler tags with the spymasters not being allowed to read them.

why shouldn't the spymasters be allowed to see the discussion? i've only played codenames in person (words version) with more than two people per team, and it works fine

[ipofanes]

I'm not really available until Tuesday.
If we go for more than 4 players, I'd strongly prefer discussion between teammates to be in spoiler tags with the spymasters not being allowed to read them.

why shouldn't the spymasters be allowed to see the discussion? i've only played codenames in person (words version) with more than two people per team, and it works fine

I expect a counterfactual discussion among spies ("if he wanted tit excluded, he'd given Mammals 3 and not Animals 3"), and there's a fine line between that kind of discussion and "well, if he really wanted us to pick pot, golf, and nail, he'd surely had given Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious 3". I am not in the strongly preferrence camp but I can see the point.

[ipofanes]

Look here: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=18777.new#new

Join quickly before it is set up!

[Watno]

I'm not really available until Tuesday.
If we go for more than 4 players, I'd strongly prefer discussion between teammates to be in spoiler tags with the spymasters not being allowed to read them.

why shouldn't the spymasters be allowed to see the discussion? i've only played codenames in person (words version) with more than two people per team, and it works fine

I think it's also undesirable to have simply have something like playesr choosing between two options, and thus telling the spymaster what their next guess will be.
I expect a counterfactual discussion among spies ("if he wanted tit excluded, he'd given Mammals 3 and not Animals 3"), and there's a fine line between that kind of discussion and "well, if he really wanted us to pick pot, golf, and nail, he'd surely had given Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious 3". I am not in the strongly preferrence camp but I can see the point.