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[popsofctown]

Why doesn't the rush section discuss Vineyards rushes?

[vintermann]

I would like to see a sort of taxonomy / canon of deck types you should be familiar with too, but I'm not sure the OP's division is so useful. Attacks must usually play a part in both money/terminal-based decks and more action-oriented decks, so distinguishing attack decks as a top-level thing I'm not so sure about. I think the most important distinction in Dominion (and thus the one that should be at the top of the hierarchy) is between those decks that try to play more than one action per turn, and those that don't. Here's my proposal:

* Treasure-terminal decks
-* Big Money-type decks (e.g Big Money Wharf, Big Money Envoy, Big Money Masquerade)
--* Alternate treasure decks (Fool's gold, etc.)
--* Money+trashing decks (e.g Golden deck)
-* Terminal-based rushes (e.g IGG/Duchy, Horse Traders/Duke, Workshop/Gardens)

* Action-based decks
-* Megaturn engines (e.g Horn of Plenty, KC/Bridge, Governor, Native Village/Nomad Camp/Coppersmith
-* Full draw engines
--* Alchemist-based
--* Hunting party-based
--* Scrying pool-based
--* village&draw-based
-* Steady engines (either dig through whole deck but not in play at same time, or full draw but not every turn)
--* Minion-based
--* Conspirator-based
--* Tactician-based
---* Single tactician
---* Double tactician
-* Rush engines (Ironworks+gardens/islands/Silk roads)

[Empathy]

Here is my proposed classification:

-mean-value decks
=> try to get the best average turn (big money, HT/duke, plain attack decks without engines).

-near-deterministic decks
=> try to end up with nearly exactly the same playmat every turn (golden deck, HP, scrying pool, double tact, masq-pin, torturer chain...).

-spike decks
=> try to take advantage of unlikely(for any given single turn) but extreme events (single tact+coppersmith/bank, mega turn...).

All three correspond to secondary objectives that players follow in order to win the game. These mostly coincide with the usual taxonomy, but differ in some important cases:

Chancellor/stash is a near-deterministic deck, hence not classified together with BM/envoy
Golden deck is also a near-deterministic deck.
A BM variant that plays non-terminals (markets, say) would be classified together with BM/envoy.
Megaturn decks and other 'unstable' decks would be separate from engines.

It might not be as easy to classify decks within those archetypes, because you have to sit back and think rather than just look at the deck list, but I think it corresponds more to a fundamental truth behind the mechanics of the game. The first objective in the game is to manage randomness. Once that is done, people green and attempt to win.  All three archetypes correspond to a way to manage the inherent randomness of the game. I wrote an article earlier in the year where these ideas were presented (bundled up with other random thoughts of mine).

[crapshoot]

Sorry for being a thread necromancer, but when I saw what you said about Turbo Remodel, I had to try it for myself, and guess what? I won 3 out of 3 times against the isotropic bot! ... on a very specific setup ... and it was very close. But still!



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Game #21067701, unrated.
L starts with 7 Coppers.
L starts with 3 Estates.
c starts with 7 Coppers.
c starts with 3 Estates.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 5 cards.
c shuffles their deck.
c draws 3 Coppers and 2 Estates.

Turn 1 - Lord Rattington
L plays 4 Coppers. (+$4)
L buys and gains a Remodel.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 1 - crapshoot
c plays 3 Coppers. (+$3)
c buys and gains a Silver.
c draws 4 Coppers and an Estate.

Turn 2 - Lord Rattington
L plays 3 Coppers. (+$3)
L buys and gains a Village.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 2 - crapshoot
c plays 4 Coppers. (+$4)
c buys and gains a Smithy.
c shuffles their deck.
c draws 2 Coppers, a Silver, an Estate and a Smithy.

Turn 3 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes an Estate.
L gains a Remodel.
L plays 3 Coppers. (+$3)
L buys and gains a Village.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 3 - crapshoot
c plays a Smithy.
c draws 3 Coppers.
c plays 5 Coppers and a Silver. (+$7)
c buys and gains a Gold.
c shuffles their deck.
c draws 2 Coppers and 3 Estates.

Turn 4 - Lord Rattington
L plays 3 Coppers. (+$3)
L buys and gains a Village.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 4 - crapshoot
c plays 2 Coppers. (+$2)
c buys and gains a Moat.
c draws 3 Coppers, a Silver and a Gold.

Turn 5 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Copper.
L gains a Moat.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Copper.
L gains a Moat.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 5 - crapshoot
c plays 3 Coppers, a Gold and a Silver. (+$8)
c buys and gains a Gold.
c shuffles their deck.
c draws 3 Coppers, a Gold and a Smithy.

Turn 6 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays 3 Coppers. (+$3)
L buys and gains a Village.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 6 - crapshoot
c plays a Smithy.
c draws 3 Coppers.
c plays 6 Coppers and a Gold. (+$9)
c buys and gains a Province.
c draws a Silver, a Gold, 2 Estates and a Moat.

Turn 7 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Moat.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Moat.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes an Estate.
L gains a Smithy.
L plays 5 Coppers. (+$5)
L buys and gains a Market.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 7 - crapshoot
c plays a Moat.
c draws a Copper and an Estate.
c plays a Copper, a Gold and a Silver. (+$6)
c buys and gains a Gold.
c shuffles their deck.
c draws 2 Coppers, a Silver, a Gold and an Estate.

Turn 8 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes an Estate.
L gains a Smithy.
L plays 3 Coppers. (+$3)
L buys and gains a Village.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 8 - crapshoot
c plays 2 Coppers, a Gold and a Silver. (+$7)
c buys and gains a Gold.
c draws 3 Coppers, an Estate and a Province.

Turn 9 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Market.
L draws a card.
L gets +1 Action.
L gets +1 Buy.
L gets +$1.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Moat.
L gains a Throne Room.
L plays a Copper. (+$1)
L buys and gains a Moat.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 9 - crapshoot
c plays 3 Coppers. (+$3)
c buys and gains a Merchant.
c draws 2 Golds, an Estate, a Moat and a Smithy.

Turn 10 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Smithy.
L draws 3 cards.
L plays a Market.
L draws a card.
L gets +1 Action.
L gets +1 Buy.
L gets +$1.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Moat.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Smithy.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Throne Room.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Moat.
L gains a Remodel.
L plays a Remodel again.
L trashes a Copper.
L gains a Moat.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Copper.
L gains a Moat.
L plays 3 Coppers. (+$3)
L buys and gains a Remodel.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 10 - crapshoot
c plays a Smithy.
c shuffles their deck.
c draws 2 Coppers and a Silver.
c plays 2 Coppers, 2 Golds and a Silver. (+$10)
c buys and gains a Province.
c draws a Copper, a Gold, 2 Estates and a Province.

Turn 11 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Smithy.
L draws 3 cards.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Market.
L draws a card.
L gets +1 Action.
L gets +1 Buy.
L gets +$1.
L plays a Throne Room.
L plays a Moat.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Moat again.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Moat.
L gains a Throne Room.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Moat.
L gains a Smithy.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Smithy.
L gains a Gold.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Copper.
L gains a Moat.
L plays a Copper. (+$1)
L buys and gains a Moat.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 11 - crapshoot
c plays a Copper and a Gold. (+$4)
c buys and gains a Smithy.
c draws 4 Coppers and a Merchant.

Turn 12 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Throne Room.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Village again.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Smithy.
L draws 3 cards.
L plays a Throne Room.
L plays a Moat.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Moat again.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Market.
L draws a card.
L gets +1 Action.
L gets +1 Buy.
L gets +$1.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Moat.
L gains a Throne Room.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Moat.
L gains a Remodel.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Smithy.
L gains a Gold.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Copper.
L gains a Moat.
L plays a Gold. (+$3)
L buys and gains a Smithy.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 12 - crapshoot
c plays a Merchant.
c draws a Gold.
c gets +1 Action.
c plays 4 Coppers and a Gold. (+$7)
c buys and gains a Gold.
c shuffles their deck.
c draws 2 Coppers, a Gold, an Estate and a Merchant.

Turn 13 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Moat.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Smithy.
L draws 3 cards.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Market.
L draws a card.
L gets +1 Action.
L gets +1 Buy.
L gets +$1.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Gold.
L gains a Province.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Gold.
L gains a Province.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Copper.
L gains a Moat.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 13 - crapshoot
c plays a Merchant.
c draws an Estate.
c gets +1 Action.
c plays 2 Coppers and a Gold. (+$5)
c buys and gains a Duchy.
c draws a Copper, 2 Golds, a Province and a Moat.

Turn 14 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Throne Room.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Village again.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Throne Room.
L plays a Smithy.
L draws 3 cards.
L plays a Smithy again.
L draws 3 cards.
L plays a Throne Room.
L plays a Moat.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Moat again.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Market.
L draws a card.
L gets +1 Action.
L gets +1 Buy.
L gets +$1.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Smithy.
L gains a Gold.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Moat.
L gains a Remodel.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Remodel.
L gains a Gold.
L plays a Village.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Moat.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Gold.
L gains a Province.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Gold.
L gains a Province.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 14 - crapshoot
c plays a Moat.
c draws a Copper and an Estate.
c plays 2 Coppers and 2 Golds. (+$8)
c buys and gains a Province.
c draws 2 Coppers, a Silver and 2 Golds.

Turn 15 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Throne Room.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Village again.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Moat.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Moat.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Throne Room.
L gains a Duchy.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Province.
L gains a Province.
L draws 5 cards.

Waiting for Lord Rattington.


Lord Rattington:
a Duchy, 4 Provinces, a Market, 2 Moats, 5 Remodels, a Smithy, 2 Throne Rooms and 5 Villages

crapshoot:
7 Coppers, a Silver, 5 Golds, 3 Estates, a Duchy, 3 Provinces, a Merchant, a Moat and 2 Smithies
















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Game #21067874, unrated.
c starts with 7 Coppers.
c starts with 3 Estates.
L starts with 7 Coppers.
L starts with 3 Estates.
c shuffles their deck.
c draws 3 Coppers and 2 Estates.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 1 - crapshoot
c plays 3 Coppers. (+$3)
c buys and gains a Village.
c draws 4 Coppers and an Estate.

Turn 1 - Lord Rattington
L plays 5 Coppers. (+$5)
L buys and gains a Silver.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 2 - crapshoot
c plays 4 Coppers. (+$4)
c buys and gains a Remodel.
c shuffles their deck.
c draws 4 Coppers and an Estate.

Turn 2 - Lord Rattington
L plays 2 Coppers. (+$2)
L buys and gains a Moat.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 3 - crapshoot
c plays 4 Coppers. (+$4)
c buys and gains a Remodel.
c draws 2 Coppers, 2 Estates and a Village.

Turn 3 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Moat.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Silver and 3 Coppers. (+$5)
L buys and gains a Silver.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 4 - crapshoot
c plays a Village.
c draws a Remodel.
c gets +2 Actions.
c plays a Remodel.
c trashes an Estate.
c gains a Smithy.
c plays 2 Coppers. (+$2)
c buys and gains a Moat.
c shuffles their deck.
c draws 3 Coppers, a Remodel and a Village.

Turn 4 - Lord Rattington
L plays 4 Coppers. (+$4)
L buys and gains a Smithy.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 5 - crapshoot
c plays a Village.
c draws a Remodel.
c gets +2 Actions.
c plays a Remodel.
c trashes a Copper.
c gains a Moat.
c plays a Remodel.
c trashes a Copper.
c gains a Moat.
c draws 3 Coppers, an Estate and a Smithy.

Turn 5 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Smithy.
L draws 3 cards.
L plays a Silver and 3 Coppers. (+$5)
L buys and gains a Silver.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 6 - crapshoot
c plays a Smithy.
c draws a Copper, an Estate and a Moat.
c plays 4 Coppers. (+$4)
c buys and gains a Throne Room.
c shuffles their deck.
c draws an Estate, 2 Moats, a Remodel and a Smithy.

Turn 6 - Lord Rattington
L plays 4 Coppers. (+$4)
L buys and gains a Silver.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 7 - crapshoot
c plays a Remodel.
c trashes an Estate.
c gains a Remodel.
c draws 2 Coppers, an Estate, a Remodel and a Throne Room.

Turn 7 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Moat.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Silver and 3 Coppers. (+$5)
L buys and gains a Silver.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 8 - crapshoot
c plays a Throne Room.
c plays a Remodel.
c trashes an Estate.
c gains a Throne Room.
c plays a Remodel again.
c trashes a Copper.
c gains a Moat.
c draws 3 Coppers, a Moat and a Village.

Turn 8 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Smithy.
L draws 3 cards.
L plays 2 Silvers and 4 Coppers. (+$8)
L buys and gains a Province.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 9 - crapshoot
c plays a Village.
c shuffles their deck.
c draws a Smithy.
c gets +2 Actions.
c plays a Smithy.
c draws 2 Moats and a Remodel.
c plays a Remodel.
c trashes a Moat.
c gains a Remodel.
c plays 3 Coppers. (+$3)
c buys and gains a Village.
c draws a Copper, 2 Remodels and 2 Throne Rooms.

Turn 9 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Smithy.
L draws 3 cards.
L plays 2 Silvers and a Copper. (+$5)
L buys and gains a Silver.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 10 - crapshoot
c plays a Throne Room.
c plays a Remodel.
c trashes a Copper.
c gains a Moat.
c plays a Remodel again.
c trashes a Throne Room.
c gains a Village.
c shuffles their deck.
c draws a Moat, 2 Remodels, a Throne Room and a Village.

Turn 10 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Silver and 3 Coppers. (+$5)
L buys and gains a Silver.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 11 - crapshoot
c plays a Throne Room.
c plays a Village.
c draws a Moat.
c gets +2 Actions.
c plays a Village again.
c draws a Copper.
c gets +2 Actions.
c plays a Moat.
c draws a Moat and a Smithy.
c plays a Smithy.
c draws a Moat, a Remodel and a Village.
c plays a Village.
c draws a Copper.
c gets +2 Actions.
c plays a Remodel.
c trashes a Moat.
c gains a Remodel.
c plays a Remodel.
c trashes a Moat.
c gains a Smithy.
c plays a Remodel.
c trashes a Moat.
c gains a Throne Room.
c plays 2 Coppers. (+$2)
c buys and gains a Moat.
c shuffles their deck.
c draws a Copper, a Moat, a Remodel, a Throne Room and a Village.

Turn 11 - Lord Rattington
L plays 2 Silvers and 3 Coppers. (+$7)
L buys and gains a Gold.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 12 - crapshoot
c plays a Throne Room.
c plays a Village.
c draws a Remodel.
c gets +2 Actions.
c plays a Village again.
c draws a Remodel.
c gets +2 Actions.
c plays a Moat.
c draws a Copper and a Throne Room.
c plays a Remodel.
c trashes a Throne Room.
c gains a Gold.
c plays a Remodel.
c trashes a Copper.
c gains a Moat.
c plays a Remodel.
c trashes a Copper.
c gains a Moat.
c draws a Copper, a Moat, a Remodel and 2 Villages.

Turn 12 - Lord Rattington
L plays 2 Silvers, a Gold and a Copper. (+$8)
L buys and gains a Province.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 13 - crapshoot
c plays a Village.
c draws a Remodel.
c gets +2 Actions.
c plays a Village.
c draws a Smithy.
c gets +2 Actions.
c plays a Smithy.
c shuffles their deck.
c draws a Smithy, a Throne Room and a Village.
c plays a Throne Room.
c plays a Village.
c draws a Remodel.
c gets +2 Actions.
c plays a Village again.
c draws a Moat.
c gets +2 Actions.
c plays a Smithy.
c draws a Gold and 2 Moats.
c plays a Moat.
c draws 2 Remodels.
c plays a Remodel.
c trashes a Moat.
c gains a Throne Room.
c plays a Remodel.
c trashes a Moat.
c gains a Throne Room.
c plays a Remodel.
c trashes a Copper.
c gains a Moat.
c plays a Gold. (+$3)
c buys and gains a Village.
c shuffles their deck.
c draws 3 Remodels, a Smithy and a Village.

Turn 13 - Lord Rattington
L plays 4 Silvers. (+$8)
L buys and gains a Province.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 14 - crapshoot
c plays a Village.
c draws a Moat.
c gets +2 Actions.
c plays a Smithy.
c draws 2 Moats and a Throne Room.
c plays a Throne Room.
c plays a Remodel.
c trashes a Moat.
c gains a Throne Room.
c plays a Remodel again.
c trashes a Moat.
c gains a Smithy.
c draws a Gold, a Remodel, a Smithy and 2 Throne Rooms.

Turn 14 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Smithy.
L draws 3 cards.
L plays a Silver and 4 Coppers. (+$6)
L buys and gains a Gold.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 15 - crapshoot
c plays a Throne Room.
c plays a Throne Room.
c plays a Smithy.
c draws 3 Villages.
c plays a Smithy again.
c shuffles their deck.
c draws a Moat and 2 Remodels.
c plays a Throne Room again.
c plays a Village.
c draws a Smithy.
c gets +2 Actions.
c plays a Village again.
c draws a Village.
c gets +2 Actions.
c plays a Smithy.
c draws a Smithy and 2 Throne Rooms.
c plays a Village.
c draws a Remodel.
c gets +2 Actions.
c plays a Village.
c draws a Remodel.
c gets +2 Actions.
c plays a Remodel.
c trashes a Moat.
c gains a Remodel.
c plays a Remodel.
c trashes a Smithy.
c gains a Gold.
c plays a Throne Room.
c plays a Village.
c shuffles their deck.
c draws a Remodel.
c gets +2 Actions.
c plays a Village again.
c draws a Gold.
c gets +2 Actions.
c plays a Remodel.
c trashes a Gold.
c gains a Province.
c plays a Remodel.
c trashes a Gold.
c gains a Province.
c plays a Remodel.
c trashes a Throne Room.
c gains a Gold.
c plays a Remodel.
c shuffles their deck.
c draws a Smithy, 2 Throne Rooms and 2 Villages.

Turn 15 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Moat.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays 2 Silvers and 4 Coppers. (+$8)
L buys and gains a Province.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 16 - crapshoot
c plays a Throne Room.
c plays a Throne Room.
c plays a Smithy.
c draws a Throne Room and 2 Villages.
c plays a Smithy again.
c draws a Province, a Remodel and a Smithy.
c plays a Throne Room again.
c plays a Throne Room.
c plays a Smithy.
c draws 3 Remodels.
c plays a Smithy again.
c draws a Province and 2 Remodels.
c plays a Throne Room again.
c plays a Village.
c draws a Gold.
c gets +2 Actions.
c plays a Village again.
c gets +2 Actions.
c plays a Remodel.
c trashes a Remodel.
c gains a Gold.
c plays a Village.
c shuffles their deck.
c draws a Gold.
c gets +2 Actions.
c plays a Remodel.
c trashes a Village.
c gains a Duchy.
c plays a Remodel.
c trashes a Village.
c gains a Duchy.
c plays a Remodel.
c trashes a Gold.
c gains a Province.
c plays a Remodel.
c trashes a Gold.
c gains a Province.
c shuffles their deck.
c draws 2 Provinces, a Remodel, a Smithy and a Throne Room.

It's your buy phase, you may...
• start buying cards.









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Game #21071804, unrated.
L starts with 7 Coppers.
L starts with 3 Estates.
c starts with 7 Coppers.
c starts with 3 Estates.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 5 cards.
c shuffles their deck.
c draws 3 Coppers and 2 Estates.

Turn 1 - Lord Rattington
L plays 5 Coppers. (+$5)
L buys and gains a Market.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 1 - crapshoot
c plays 3 Coppers. (+$3)
c buys and gains a Silver.
c draws 4 Coppers and an Estate.

Turn 2 - Lord Rattington
L plays 2 Coppers. (+$2)
L buys and gains a Moat.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 2 - crapshoot
c plays 4 Coppers. (+$4)
c buys and gains a Smithy.
c shuffles their deck.
c draws 3 Coppers, a Silver and a Smithy.

Turn 3 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Market.
L draws a card.
L gets +1 Action.
L gets +1 Buy.
L gets +$1.
L plays 3 Coppers. (+$3)
L buys and gains a Remodel.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 3 - crapshoot
c plays a Smithy.
c draws 2 Coppers and an Estate.
c plays a Silver and 5 Coppers. (+$7)
c buys and gains a Gold.
c shuffles their deck.
c draws 2 Coppers and 3 Estates.

Turn 4 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Moat.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays 4 Coppers. (+$4)
L buys and gains a Throne Room.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 4 - crapshoot
c plays 2 Coppers. (+$2)
c buys and gains a Moat.
c draws 3 Coppers, a Silver and a Gold.

Turn 5 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes an Estate.
L gains a Remodel.
L plays 3 Coppers. (+$3)
L buys and gains a Village.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 5 - crapshoot
c plays a Silver, 3 Coppers and a Gold. (+$8)
c buys and gains a Gold.
c shuffles their deck.
c draws 3 Coppers, an Estate and a Smithy.

Turn 6 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes an Estate.
L gains a Smithy.
L plays 3 Coppers. (+$3)
L buys and gains a Village.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 6 - crapshoot
c plays a Smithy.
c draws a Copper, a Gold and an Estate.
c plays 4 Coppers and a Gold. (+$7)
c buys and gains a Gold.
c draws 2 Coppers, a Gold, an Estate and a Moat.

Turn 7 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Throne Room.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Village again.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Moat.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes an Estate.
L gains a Throne Room.
L plays 4 Coppers. (+$4)
L buys and gains a Remodel.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 7 - crapshoot
c plays a Moat.
c draws a Copper and a Silver.
c plays a Silver, 3 Coppers and a Gold. (+$8)
c buys and gains a Province.
c shuffles their deck.
c draws a Copper, a Gold, a Province, a Moat and a Smithy.

Turn 8 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Throne Room.
L plays a Market.
L draws a card.
L gets +1 Action.
L gets +1 Buy.
L gets +$1.
L plays a Market again.
L draws a card.
L gets +1 Action.
L gets +1 Buy.
L gets +$1.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Copper.
L gains a Moat.
L plays 3 Coppers. (+$3)
L buys and gains a Market.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 8 - crapshoot
c plays a Smithy.
c draws a Copper and 2 Estates.
c plays 2 Coppers and a Gold. (+$5)
c buys and gains a Smithy.
c draws 3 Coppers, a Silver and a Gold.

Turn 9 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Throne Room.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Smithy.
L gains a Gold.
L plays a Remodel again.
L trashes a Copper.
L gains a Moat.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 9 - crapshoot
c plays a Silver, 3 Coppers and a Gold. (+$8)
c buys and gains a Province.
c shuffles their deck.
c draws 2 Coppers, a Gold, an Estate and a Province.

Turn 10 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Throne Room.
L plays a Market.
L draws a card.
L gets +1 Action.
L gets +1 Buy.
L gets +$1.
L plays a Market again.
L draws a card.
L gets +1 Action.
L gets +1 Buy.
L gets +$1.
L plays a Moat.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Moat.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Copper.
L gains a Moat.
L plays 3 Coppers and a Gold. (+$6)
L buys and gains 2 Villages.
L buys and gains a Moat.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 10 - crapshoot
c plays 2 Coppers and a Gold. (+$5)
c buys and gains a Silver.
c draws 2 Coppers, a Gold, a Province and a Moat.

Turn 11 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Throne Room.
L plays a Market.
L draws a card.
L gets +1 Action.
L gets +1 Buy.
L gets +$1.
L plays a Market again.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws a card.
L gets +1 Action.
L gets +1 Buy.
L gets +$1.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Moat.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Throne Room.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Copper.
L gains a Moat.
L plays a Remodel again.
L trashes a Copper.
L gains a Moat.
L plays a Copper and a Gold. (+$4)
L buys and gains 2 Villages.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 11 - crapshoot
c plays a Moat.
c draws a Silver and an Estate.
c plays a Silver, 2 Coppers and a Gold. (+$7)
c buys and gains a Gold.
c draws a Copper, a Gold, an Estate and 2 Smithies.

Turn 12 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Market.
L draws a card.
L gets +1 Action.
L gets +1 Buy.
L gets +$1.
L plays a Moat.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Moat.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Moat.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Moat.
L gains a Smithy.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Moat.
L gains a Remodel.
L plays a Copper. (+$1)
L buys and gains a Moat.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 12 - crapshoot
c plays a Smithy.
c shuffles their deck.
c draws 2 Coppers and a Silver.
c plays a Silver, 3 Coppers and a Gold. (+$8)
c buys and gains a Province.
c draws a Copper, a Silver, a Gold, an Estate and a Moat.

Turn 13 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Throne Room.
L plays a Market.
L draws a card.
L gets +1 Action.
L gets +1 Buy.
L gets +$1.
L plays a Market again.
L draws a card.
L gets +1 Action.
L gets +1 Buy.
L gets +$1.
L plays a Throne Room.
L plays a Village.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Village again.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Moat.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Moat.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Smithy.
L draws 3 cards.
L plays a Moat.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Moat.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Market.
L gets +1 Action.
L gets +1 Buy.
L gets +$1.
L plays a Village.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Moat.
L gains a Remodel.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Moat.
L gains a Smithy.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Copper.
L gains a Moat.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Copper.
L gains a Cellar.
L plays a Gold. (+$3)
L buys and gains 2 Villages.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 13 - crapshoot
c plays a Moat.
c draws a Copper and a Gold.
c plays a Silver, 2 Coppers and 2 Golds. (+$10)
c buys and gains a Province.
c draws 2 Coppers, an Estate and 2 Provinces.

Turn 14 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Throne Room.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Village again.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Smithy.
L draws 3 cards.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Throne Room.
L plays a Market.
L draws a card.
L gets +1 Action.
L gets +1 Buy.
L gets +$1.
L plays a Market again.
L draws a card.
L gets +1 Action.
L gets +1 Buy.
L gets +$1.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Market.
L draws a card.
L gets +1 Action.
L gets +1 Buy.
L gets +$1.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Moat.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Moat.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Moat.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Smithy.
L draws a card.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Remodel.
L gains a Gold.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Cellar.
L gains a Throne Room.
L plays a Moat.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Throne Room.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Gold.
L gains a Province.
L plays a Remodel again.
L trashes a Gold.
L gains a Province.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Village.
L gains a Duchy.
L plays a Moat.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 2 cards.
L buys and gains a Village.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 14 - crapshoot
c plays 2 Coppers. (+$2)
c buys and gains an Estate.
c shuffles their deck.
c draws 2 Coppers, a Silver, a Gold and a Province.

Turn 15 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Smithy.
L draws 3 cards.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Moat.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Smithy.
L draws 3 cards.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Moat.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Throne Room.
L plays a Market.
L draws a card.
L gets +1 Action.
L gets +1 Buy.
L gets +$1.
L plays a Market again.
L draws a card.
L gets +1 Action.
L gets +1 Buy.
L gets +$1.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Moat.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Throne Room.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Village again.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Market.
L draws a card.
L gets +1 Action.
L gets +1 Buy.
L gets +$1.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Village.
L gains a Duchy.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Village.
L gains a Duchy.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Moat.
L gains a Remodel.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Moat.
L gains a Throne Room.
L buys and gains a Village.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 15 - crapshoot
c plays a Silver, 2 Coppers and a Gold. (+$7)
c buys and gains a Duchy.
c draws a Gold, an Estate, a Province, a Moat and a Smithy.

Turn 16 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Throne Room.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Remodel.
L gains a Gold.
L draws 5 cards.

Turn 16 - crapshoot
c plays a Smithy.
c draws a Copper, a Gold and an Estate.
c plays a Copper and 2 Golds. (+$7)
c buys and gains a Duchy.
c draws 4 Coppers and a Silver.

Turn 17 - Lord Rattington
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Moat.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Moat.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Throne Room.
L plays a Market.
L draws a card.
L gets +1 Action.
L gets +1 Buy.
L gets +$1.
L plays a Market again.
L draws a card.
L gets +1 Action.
L gets +1 Buy.
L gets +$1.
L plays a Smithy.
L draws 3 cards.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Throne Room.
L plays a Market.
L draws a card.
L gets +1 Action.
L gets +1 Buy.
L gets +$1.
L plays a Market again.
L draws a card.
L gets +1 Action.
L gets +1 Buy.
L gets +$1.
L plays a Smithy.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 3 cards.
L plays a Throne Room.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Village again.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Moat.
L draws 2 cards.
L plays a Village.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Throne Room.
L gains a Gold.
L plays a Village.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws a card.
L gets +2 Actions.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Gold.
L gains a Province.
L plays a Remodel.
L trashes a Gold.
L gains a Province.
L buys and gains 2 Estates.
L shuffles their deck.
L draws 5 cards.

Waiting for Lord Rattington.

[Simon Jester]

Isotropic bot?

Oh. You mean Shuffle IT.

Please don't do those mistakes.

It hurts. *Nostalgia flood*

[RTT]

5d) The Trasher

The Trasher just realized that Chapel is awesome, and by logical extension, he should chapel everything. He Chapels coppers and estates while buying Silver, he Chapels Silver when buying Gold, runs out of steam after 3 Provinces, and loses to Big Money. This is a trap even experienced players sometimes fall for - just this morning I realized I'd trashed down to only 1 silver and had to embarrassedly buy a copper.

Man experienced players sucked back in the day.