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[silverspawn]

The game is over! The mafia team of Ichimaru Gin, gkrieg13, and Limetime wins!

[2.71828.....]

I guess I could have made other points that might have helped.  Look at my stance on chairs from D3 to D4.  Total reversal.  Because I investigated him and got town.  I had been throwing him out as a lynch candidate D3.  Does scum do that?  Create more ICs?  Not really.

[Witherweaver]

But getting town on Awaclus tells you that you can be certain of Ichi. 

I actually should have brought that up in the neighborhood on D2.  I wasn't paying enough attention early this game.

[Witherweaver]

I guess I could have made other points that might have helped.  Look at my stance on chairs from D3 to D4.  Total reversal.  Because I investigated him and got town.  I had been throwing him out as a lynch candidate D3.  Does scum do that?  Create more ICs?  Not really.

Well, yeah, but if you're fakeclaiming Cop you kind of have to do that.

[2.71828.....]

I wasn't paying enough attention early this game.

yeah, that was one reason why I ultimately picked gkrieg over you.  You brought up a point in your post where you voted that if you were a cop you wouldn't really trust your results that much.  But like....my entire game I totally did not trust my results at all until, like, today.  And even then not until I knew I was right in lylo. 

[Haddock]

Tough luck.

[silverspawn]

QTs:
Speccy
Mafia
Mod
Neighborhood 1
Neighborhood 2

Personal QTs may be shared by their owners.

Setup:
(Hidden Naive) Cop
(Hidden Naive) Cop
Cop
Tracker
Doctor
Lover, Gambler
Neighborizer
Friendly Neighbor
JOAT (Commutor, Vigilante, Weak Visitor, Doctor, Roleblocker, Voyeur)

vs

Goon
Goon
Goon

[pingpongsam]

Awesome setup. I really liked how the role powers could be honest woot revealing alignment. Also, for the next game when I cop somebody for god's sake lynch them. This is two games in a row where I am copping people and announcing the results on D2 and getting lynched for it. To give false results that early in the game is pure suicide and I don't really understand what about it is not believable. I suppose redirection, but look there was none of that, here.

Anyway, congrats to the scum team, especially since they had a noob who got busted up front. It's hard to recover from an early lynch like that.

[Witherweaver]

I wasn't paying enough attention early this game.

yeah, that was one reason why I ultimately picked gkrieg over you.  You brought up a point in your post where you voted that if you were a cop you wouldn't really trust your results that much.  But like....my entire game I totally did not trust my results at all until, like, today.  And even then not until I knew I was right in lylo.

It's actually a little unfortunate that you hit Ichi Night 1.  It made me go too far down the 'conspiracy theory' path

[pingpongsam]

Wait, what? Mafia had no role powers?

[Witherweaver]

Awesome setup. I really liked how the role powers could be honest woot revealing alignment. Also, for the next game when I cop somebody for god's sake lynch them. This is two games in a row where I am copping people and announcing the results on D2 and getting lynched for it. To give false results that early in the game is pure suicide and I don't really understand what about it is not believable. I suppose redirection, but look there was none of that, here.

Anyway, congrats to the scum team, especially since they had a noob who got busted up front. It's hard to recover from an early lynch like that.

But next time you're gonna lie!

[2.71828.....]

iguana in the speccy:

"I like e's case, which means that Haddock is probably town I guess. But I'd say he's their best lynch for today."

[iguanaiguana]

Wait, what? Mafia had no role powers?

Go to the first post in the mafia QT to see their powers.

[Ichimaru Gin]

Fun times. 

[Roadrunner7671]

Guuuuuuys

[silverspawn]

So this game had luck on both sides.

First scum got lucky with the RR mislynch, hitting the player that caused 2 town deaths.

Then town got really lucky with the cops. Three cops, two naive with negative utility, one sane with really high positive utility, the two naive ones die early, the sane one makes it to LyLo.

I thought about MVPs throughout the game, mostly expecting town to win as the cop results were piling up. My first thought was PPS, he used his power super well. I also thought e, for flying completely under the radar, great as the sane cop. And WW of course, if he had chosen correctly. I was going to make a poll.

With scum winning now, I'm still not completely sure. I'm leaning Ichi; he had two guilty results on him and got the PPS lynch through, which was game-deciding. But gkrieg won LyLo. What do you two think?

Wait, what? Mafia had no role powers?

No, no role powers 

Also a pretty amazing comeback; after the Limetime lynch, one scum was dead, one had a guilty result on him, and both were under scrutiny. I was already disappointed that it'd be too one-sided.

[Roadrunner7671]

I clearly had a MVP worthy performance.

[Awaclus]

Man, I told you Ichi was scum.

[pingpongsam]

Man, I told you Ichi was scum.

Which is why you died along with everyone else who kept saying that.

[Ichimaru Gin]

Man, I told you Ichi was scum.

Which is why you died along with everyone else who kept saying that.

[Axxle]

I clearly had a MVP worthy performance.

[Roadrunner7671]

I clearly had a MVP worthy performance.

You agree?

[2.71828.....]

I think gkrieg should get the MVP.  Yes, Ichi had a great game surviving as long as he did, but gkrieg helped play a decent enough part in the PPS lynch that was the critical turning point, plus watch at just the right time and just the right person to get the result that he got, plus survive through the end to get WW to vote for me.  Granted, surviving to the end isn't everything when you have a partner that set you up perfectly, but gkrieg's work throughout the game plus being able to win the lylo tips it to him.  I mean, because really both Ichi and gkrieg survived incriminating results against them.  Ichi had my copping plus PPS, gkrieg had my copping. 

I do think it is close, and both Ichi and gkrieg played great games, but I think gkrieg should get it in the end.

[gkrieg13]

Thanks for the nod e!  Really fun setup!

As you can see in the mafia QT I really didn't think I was going to make it there at the end

To the people in the speccy, I couldn't kill e because his role would be revealed and Hydrad already had an innocent result from him and IG had flipped

I think it's interesting the choices we could make at the beginning of the game and how different it would've been if we hadn't picked voyeur and watcher

[Ichimaru Gin]

I won't say anything about my own play. I actually don't recall a ton of it; school has a way of squeezing out stuff.

gkrieg pretty much single handedly made all the decisions for our night actions and picking powers though, which I feel should count for something. I also think he played really well this game in general.

No matter who gets it, I kinda felt like he was the leader of scum.