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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #1975 on: November 06, 2016, 04:18:46 pm »
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Pros and cons of rolling a D12 vs. 2D6?

A D12 always has a 1/12 chance to land on any number. 2D6 more often land on 5-8. You can't roll 1 on 2D6. In general I prefer rolling 2D6 when I want a "better roll", but I know people who think differently.
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #1976 on: November 06, 2016, 04:21:43 pm »
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2d6 will roll 1/2 higher on average.
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #1977 on: November 06, 2016, 04:32:05 pm »
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So if you're trying to roll higher than a D4, which is better? What if you're trying to roll higher than a D10? Or D20?
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #1978 on: November 06, 2016, 04:41:55 pm »
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Pros and cons of rolling a D12 vs. 2D6?

A D12 always has a 1/12 chance to land on any number. 2D6 more often land on 5-8. You can't roll 1 on 2D6. In general I prefer rolling 2D6 when I want a "better roll", but I know people who think differently.

Well, the expected value of 2d6 is 7 while the expected value of 1d12 is 6.5, so you do get a better roll with 2d6, but that's really only going to show up over many, many rolls.
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #1979 on: November 06, 2016, 04:43:48 pm »
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So if you're trying to roll higher than a D4, which is better? What if you're trying to roll higher than a D10? Or D20?

I'm not fully understanding this question. Like, what would you roll to guarantee that you get a higher result than what you get with a d4?

If that's the question, then 5+ dice of anything will do better than a d4. This could be 5d2 or 5d1000. Both would strictly give you a number higher than what you get with a d4.

Do I understand correctly?
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #1980 on: November 06, 2016, 04:55:05 pm »
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So if you're trying to roll higher than a D4, which is better? What if you're trying to roll higher than a D10? Or D20?

Isn't it just 2D6 every time? It rolls 7 on average, while 1D12 rolls only 6.5 on average. The weighting on 2D6 is also relevant against a D4 because the only losing numbers are super unlikely.
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #1981 on: November 06, 2016, 04:58:18 pm »
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So if you're trying to roll higher than a D4, which is better? What if you're trying to roll higher than a D10? Or D20?

I'm not fully understanding this question. Like, what would you roll to guarantee that you get a higher result than what you get with a d4?

If that's the question, then 5+ dice of anything will do better than a d4. This could be 5d2 or 5d1000. Both would strictly give you a number higher than what you get with a d4.

Do I understand correctly?
No, sorry.

If you roll a D4, which optiin (1d12 or 2d6) is more likely to beat the roll of the D4?
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #1982 on: November 06, 2016, 04:59:12 pm »
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So if you're trying to roll higher than a D4, which is better? What if you're trying to roll higher than a D10? Or D20?

Isn't it just 2D6 every time? It rolls 7 on average, while 1D12 rolls only 6.5 on average.
But you have a better chance of rolling a 12 (or 11, I think) with a D12, so doesn't that give you a better chance of beating a D20, since its average is 10?
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #1983 on: November 06, 2016, 05:05:39 pm »
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So if you're trying to roll higher than a D4, which is better? What if you're trying to roll higher than a D10? Or D20?

Isn't it just 2D6 every time? It rolls 7 on average, while 1D12 rolls only 6.5 on average.
But you have a better chance of rolling a 12 (or 11, I think) with a D12, so doesn't that give you a better chance of beating a D20, since its average is 10?

It's true that D12 has a better chance of beating 10, but a D20 only averages at 10, it doesn't roll it every time. To make it easier to wrap your head around the issue, imagine that you play the game 20 times and the D20 rolls each of its numbers exactly once.

I wrote a Python script to simulate this because it was easier than doing the math and it looks like 2D6 wins about 30% of the time, while 1D12 only wins about 27.5% of the time.
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #1984 on: November 06, 2016, 06:11:10 pm »
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So if you're trying to roll higher than a D4, which is better? What if you're trying to roll higher than a D10? Or D20?

Isn't it just 2D6 every time? It rolls 7 on average, while 1D12 rolls only 6.5 on average.
But you have a better chance of rolling a 12 (or 11, I think) with a D12, so doesn't that give you a better chance of beating a D20, since its average is 10?

It's true that D12 has a better chance of beating 10, but a D20 only averages at 10, it doesn't roll it every time. To make it easier to wrap your head around the issue, imagine that you play the game 20 times and the D20 rolls each of its numbers exactly once.

I wrote a Python script to simulate this because it was easier than doing the math and it looks like 2D6 wins about 30% of the time, while 1D12 only wins about 27.5% of the time.
Okay, that actually did help me wrap my head around it. Thank you!
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #1985 on: November 06, 2016, 06:18:25 pm »
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I think that was the most on-topic discussion in this thread!
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #1986 on: November 06, 2016, 08:58:32 pm »
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idea: reddit variant that lets you upvote/downvote individual words
e.g. my three favorite garies are gary from spongebob, gary johnson and gary, indiana
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #1987 on: November 06, 2016, 09:00:17 pm »
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idea: reddit variant that lets you upvote/downvote individual words
e.g. my three favorite garies are gary from spongebob, gary johnson and gary, indiana

Glengarry Glen Ross :/
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #1988 on: November 08, 2016, 02:42:08 pm »
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Played around with some effects. Didn't expect it to amount to anything, but...

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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #1989 on: November 08, 2016, 03:08:42 pm »
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Played around with some effects. Didn't expect it to amount to anything, but...

That's not terrible by any means. What did you use?
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #1990 on: November 08, 2016, 03:27:52 pm »
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Played around with some effects. Didn't expect it to amount to anything, but...

Well, I didn't need to sleep tonight.
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #1991 on: November 08, 2016, 08:43:14 pm »
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I use paint.net, I drew some circles and then randomly applied and reversed effects. Had no idea what I was doing.

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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #1992 on: November 11, 2016, 01:44:51 am »
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And you want to travel with her, and you want to travel blind
And you know that she will trust you
For you've touched her perfect body with your mind
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #1993 on: November 13, 2016, 06:47:21 am »
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And you want to travel with her, and you want to travel blind
And you know that she will trust you
For you've touched her perfect body with your mind
and who
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #1994 on: November 13, 2016, 08:41:38 am »
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Well, imagine you're building a house. There is the methodical aspect of it, which is about how tall you make it, how you order your rooms, whether or not you include a giant labyrinth into the cellar to troll people, and then there is the XXXX aspect, which is about what kind of cement you use, and which kinds of machines.

I think there is a word but I can't remember it.

Material. Capital.

I'm very late to the party, but maybe technical?
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #1995 on: November 13, 2016, 08:55:20 am »
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technical is pretty good

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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #1996 on: November 13, 2016, 10:55:37 am »
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technical is pretty good

Implementational?
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #1997 on: November 13, 2016, 01:37:10 pm »
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On my way home after finishing an RPG campaign we've been playing for the last seven years. Feels pretty good.
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #1998 on: November 13, 2016, 01:48:57 pm »
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On my way home after finishing an RPG campaign we've been playing for the last seven years. Feels pretty good.

Was the campaign that bad, if it feels good that it's over?
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #1999 on: November 13, 2016, 01:49:25 pm »
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On my way home after finishing an RPG campaign we've been playing for the last seven years. Feels pretty good.
Yeah I'd be sad if it was over
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