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Scout's best combo?
« on: December 14, 2015, 11:07:34 pm »
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Scout. The one card the community can't seem to stop talking about. I am making this poll not only because I want to get a good idea of what people think about Scout, but also because I want to see if polls are as easy to make as they appear to be. I also sort of want to find the line: when will I be shunned by the community because I have seen the way? Maybe a poll is going to far, maybe it isn't. But we'll see if people answer!

EDIT: There's no way to tell who said what, is there? For example, something that Iguanaiguana says, or Adam says, or Voltaire says, or like shark bait or Liopoli says, I would listen to that more than like, a guest (no offense to any guests).
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Re: Scout's best combo?
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2015, 11:35:53 pm »
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Either Masquerade or Ambassador, because you can use them to pass Scouts to your opponent.
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Re: Scout's best combo?
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2015, 11:37:46 pm »
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Either Masquerade or Ambassador, because you can use them to pass Scouts to your opponent.
But the question is: which one is better?
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Re: Scout's best combo?
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2015, 11:41:40 pm »
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Scout. The one card the community Roadrunner can't seem to stop talking about.


Inheritance should be on the list. It's the one thing that might make me likely to buy a Scout.
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Re: Scout's best combo?
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2015, 11:49:31 pm »
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Scout. The one card the community Roadrunner can't seem to stop talking about.


Inheritance should be on the list. It's the one thing that might make me likely to buy a Scout.
Oh man! How did I forget Inheritance??!!
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Re: Scout's best combo?
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2015, 11:55:12 pm »
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Remind me how storeroom works with scout?  I mean, I just don't see that.  Like, at all.  All the other cards combo with scout well enough.  I mean, being that "combo with scout" is a very bold statement.

edit: oh, and warehouse too.  I don't think those two should even be options here.
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Re: Scout's best combo?
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2015, 11:58:08 pm »
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Remind me how storeroom works with scout?  I mean, I just don't see that.  Like, at all.  All the other cards combo with scout well enough.  I mean, being that "combo with scout" is a very bold statement.

edit: oh, and warehouse too.  I don't think those two should even be options here.
You're probably right, even I will admit this is pretty weak. In theory, you increase your handsize by drawing Victory cards, which helps discard for benefit. You can also organize the cards that you want to draw with Warehouse but particularly Storeroom.
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Re: Scout's best combo?
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2015, 12:04:47 am »
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EDIT: There's no way to tell who said what, is there? For example, something that Iguanaiguana says, or Adam says, or Voltaire says, or like shark bait or Liopoli says, I would listen to that more than like, a guest (no offense to any guests).

You have to set it up as not private when you set up the poll.  I'm not sure if you can change it or not at this point.
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Re: Scout's best combo?
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2015, 12:06:24 am »
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EDIT: There's no way to tell who said what, is there? For example, something that Iguanaiguana says, or Adam says, or Voltaire says, or like shark bait or Liopoli says, I would listen to that more than like, a guest (no offense to any guests).

You have to set it up as not private when you set up the poll.  I'm not sure if you can change it or not at this point.
Oops. No biggs.
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Re: Scout's best combo?
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2015, 08:29:38 am »
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You're probably right, even I will admit this is pretty weak. In theory, you increase your handsize by drawing Victory cards, which helps discard for benefit. You can also organize the cards that you want to draw with Warehouse but particularly Storeroom.

Scout decreases your hand size.
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Re: Scout's best combo?
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2015, 08:30:50 am »
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Scout. The one card the community can't seem to stop talking about.

if by "the community" you mean "you"

can we please talk about anything else
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Re: Scout's best combo?
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2015, 08:31:17 am »
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Apothecary/Scout is a nice combo in engines without (good) trashing. I remember seeing this game which was really awesome:

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Re: Scout's best combo?
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2015, 09:25:09 am »
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Either Masquerade or Ambassador, because you can use them to pass Scouts to your opponent.
But the question is: which one is better?

Ambassador, you don't need to buy Scout repeatedly and can't get it back on your own Masquerade play. Never did that, though.
I used Scout as a stepping stone for Upgrade on a Scrying Pool board recently without any other -cost (except for Potion).
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Re: Scout's best combo?
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2015, 09:41:58 am »
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Scout. The one card the community can't seem to stop talking about.

if by "the community" you mean "you"

can we please talk about anything else
Well, what would you like to talk about?
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Re: Scout's best combo?
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2015, 05:23:45 pm »
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Just commented, "a card name, don't be a troll"  ;)

But for real, probably Apothecary.  Mostly because VP makes Apothecary stall hard.  A single Scout in an Apothecary deck can go a long ways.  There is also the lack of opportunity cost.  Most other cards you will almost always say, "should have been another X" in regards to grabbing Scout.  But with Apothecary the Potion cost makes it possible to actually pick up Scout and not miss out on an Apothecary purchase.
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Re: Scout's best combo?
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2015, 05:24:48 pm »
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Just commented, "a card name, don't be a troll"  ;)

But for real, probably Apothecary.  Mostly because VP makes Apothecary stall hard.  A single Scout in an Apothecary deck can go a long ways.
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EDIT: I wonder how many other people did that...
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Re: Scout's best combo?
« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2015, 12:14:30 pm »
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Feast.
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Re: Scout's best combo?
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2015, 01:19:15 am »
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Feast.

Play Feast to gain a Scout?  I love it!!

I've said it once and I'll say it again.. I think Scout-Ironworks-Great Hall is a thing.  I know, 3-card combos are shunned round these parts.  But they're all from Intrigue.  So if that's what you're playing with, it's worth at least keeping an eye out for.  Especially if your opponent is not contesting the Great Halls with you.
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Re: Scout's best combo?
« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2015, 01:24:45 am »
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It's probably best to buy cards that do their job well right away instead of trying to make Scout work.
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Re: Scout's best combo?
« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2015, 01:35:20 am »
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Feast.

Play Feast to gain a Scout?  I love it!!

I've said it once and I'll say it again.. I think Scout-Ironworks-Great Hall is a thing.  I know, 3-card combos are shunned round these parts.  But they're all from Intrigue.  So if that's what you're playing with, it's worth at least keeping an eye out for.  Especially if your opponent is not contesting the Great Halls with you.

I think simulator results have shown it's a thing. Anyway, there's at least one Intrigue campaign level in the first set that has the those 3 cards (plus Nobles and Harem). I don't remember which one it is, but you can have some fun there.
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Re: Scout's best combo?
« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2015, 02:25:00 am »
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Stop trying to make Scout happen.



It's not going to happen.
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Re: Scout's best combo?
« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2015, 04:33:34 am »
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I voted for Apothecary, but could also go with Wishing Well.

The beauty here of course is that you'd rather have Apothecary/Wishing Well than Apothecary/Scout or Wishing Well/Scout.
Scout is essentially the third wheel on that wagon.

It's just very very harsh that Scout doesn't simply have a +1 Card by default (you know, like Apothecary does) and that's just what kills it and makes it a handsize decreaser most of the time. If you'd make Scout similar to Apothecary but for VP cards instead of Coppers, it would read:

+1 Card
+1 Action

Reveal the top 4 cards of your deck. Put the revealed Victory cards into your hand. Put the other cards back on top of your deck in any order.

Now there's a card I would actually voluntarily get for $4.
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Re: Scout's best combo?
« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2015, 04:39:37 am »
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I voted for Apothecary, but could also go with Wishing Well.

Scout/Wishing Well is worse than just Wishing Well.
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Re: Scout's best combo?
« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2015, 04:43:48 am »
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Well, it's really marginal, I'll give you that.

Best case is you have 2 WW's in hand, reveal no Victory cards and get 2 perfect guesses.
The WW-density does decrease a smidge, but I'm pretty sure it must be helpful later in the game.
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Re: Scout's best combo?
« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2015, 05:32:01 am »
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Best case is you have 2 WW's in hand, reveal no Victory cards and get 2 perfect guesses.

Yeah, that's still worse than nothing.
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