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[Witherweaver]

vote: faust

So I'm guessing, by your previous posts, that this vote is because I am a null read of silver, I would make sense as a night kill, and I was on two town wagons... is that about right?

You seem to have thought this through!

[Witherweaver]

Welcome back!

Nice how Hydrad doesn't provide anything during the day, but he's always the first to come in after the thread unlock.

[Witherweaver]

I'd like to hear from Yuma.

[Haddock]

I'd like to hear from Yuma.

So would we all, I think.

Re hydrad, I definitely need to have a look at him. He feels scummy this game but I dont know why.

[Witherweaver]

I'd prefer not to lynch Hydrad today.

[Haddock]

I probably agree in that I would prefer to lynch onwagon.

But I still need to look at him.

[Witherweaver]

Actually I kind of like off-wagon, which would only leave EgorK, Ampharos, Hydrad, and Teproc.  Teproc sounds town. 

[Witherweaver]

Though, the fact that Yuma derphammered town, as town, before (i.e., me) makes it more suspicious here, not less.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 2.2:

2.7 (1): Haddock
yuma (1): EgorK
faust (3): Teproc, Ampharos, iguanaiguana
Ampharos (1): Hydrad

Not Voting (5): yuma, 2.7, faust, WW, RR

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Day Two ends at 3:00 a.m. on December 19.

[Teproc]

faust, was Awaclus your strongest scum read at the end of day 1 ?

[Roadrunner7671]

I'm not feeling a Faust lynch. I'll post more later.

[2.71828.....]

town points to Haddock for his faust defense.

[yuma]

Vote: yuma. I do not believe about not getting PPE, sorry

I don't care if you are sorry.

vote: egorK looking for an easy mislynch on me

[yuma]

Vote: yuma. I do not believe about not getting PPE, sorry

Explain to me why, in your scenario, scum!yuma fakes a derphammer ?

This

[yuma]

There's also yuma, though I still think he's town. Annoying, but town.

{Picture of me}

{sticking my tongue out at you}

[yuma]

Vote: yuma. I do not believe about not getting PPE, sorry

Explain to me why, in your scenario, scum!yuma fakes a derphammer ?

To get lynch through? As we would say as always "scum would never do this". Yuma would

Do we always say, "scum would never do this?"

Cause I don't think we do. I feel like I have been on the minority soapbox for a long, long, long time trying to get people to stop voting for weird or unusual behavior (as opposed to scummy behavior) and can't get any traction on this.

So for me to hypothetically do this as scum would require me to count on someone else saying "scum would never do this" (cause my word alone obviously wouldn't be sufficient) and I am certainly not confident that others would... and even if they did I can guarantee that there would be others who for some reason would feel compelled to add the caveat that you just did "yuma would", which while completely inaccurate in the case of this game is also completely inaccurate in the assessment of me as a scum player.

I take risks as scum. But calculated, well thought out risks. Not ridiculous ploys in which I base the entire game on whether or not someone comes rushing to my defense.

[yuma]

So... the kill has no identifiable flavor, so I'm guessing yuma did not shoot? That's anti-town. yuma gets away with quite a lot of anti-town behaviour. Unfortunately, I am not convinced he is scum.

I didn't shoot. Not sure why it was anti-town.

[yuma]

So... the kill has no identifiable flavor, so I'm guessing yuma did not shoot? That's anti-town. yuma gets away with quite a lot of anti-town behaviour. Unfortunately, I am not convinced he is scum.

Why is anti-town for yuma not to shoot here ?

I've been over why I thought yuma should shoot. This and his end-of-D1 behaviour is only really excusable if he was going to shoot and tried to make scum think he wouldn't.

I took your points into consideration when deciding if I would shoot or not, in the end I rejected them for my own and those of people suggesting that I not shoot. You aren't the end all and be all of game play theory and decisions.

And my end-of-Day1 behavior, the hammer aside, was an attempt to make it look like to scum that I was going to shoot.

Here is what I said to ash in my PM, summarized to be safe:

Not shooting Night1

Town is probably annoyed with me. And, contrary to what I said I am not annoyed with them. I said those things in hopes of absorbing a mafia night action of some sort with my antics getting them to think that I was going to shoot tonight."

[yuma]

I didnt get a PPE there, btw. So its not completely foolproof.

HA!

[yuma]

Though, the fact that Yuma derphammered town, as town, before (i.e., me) makes it more suspicious here, not less.

very different situation and scenario...

[EgorK]

Vote: yuma. I do not believe about not getting PPE, sorry

I don't care if you are sorry.

vote: egorK looking for an easy mislynch on me

Vote: yuma. I do not believe about not getting PPE, sorry

Explain to me why, in your scenario, scum!yuma fakes a derphammer ?

To get lynch through? As we would say as always "scum would never do this". Yuma would

Do we always say, "scum would never do this?"

Cause I don't think we do. I feel like I have been on the minority soapbox for a long, long, long time trying to get people to stop voting for weird or unusual behavior (as opposed to scummy behavior) and can't get any traction on this.

So for me to hypothetically do this as scum would require me to count on someone else saying "scum would never do this" (cause my word alone obviously wouldn't be sufficient) and I am certainly not confident that others would... and even if they did I can guarantee that there would be others who for some reason would feel compelled to add the caveat that you just did "yuma would", which while completely inaccurate in the case of this game is also completely inaccurate in the assessment of me as a scum player.

I take risks as scum. But calculated, well thought out risks. Not ridiculous ploys in which I base the entire game on whether or not someone comes rushing to my defense.

But that's exactly what's happen. Someone do some tiny weird scummy thing - they got lynched over it. Someone do something really scummy for a day - nah, scum never do this.

Also OMGUS

Also do not see anything easy in this (not mis)lynch. I anticipate uphill battle because see above

[yuma]

But that's exactly what's happen. Someone do some tiny weird scummy thing - they got lynched over it. Someone do something really scummy for a day - nah, scum never do this.

Also OMGUS

Also do not see anything easy in this (not mis)lynch. I anticipate uphill battle because see above

But, I as scum. Couldn't have anticipated that. I would have to do that to feel confident to take said risk. And that is putting the entire onus on someone else to take that responsibility for me, and that just isn't how scum thinks or operates in general and is absolutely not how I operate as scum.

And OMGUS what? What does that even mean? Put something behind it if you are going to say it.

And, yes now that a bunch of people have chimed in, this will be an uphill battle. But when you came out of the gates no one had chimed in so you coudln't have known it would be an uphill battle and perhaps thought it would be easier., which is a mistake... [brag]I am very, very hard to mislynch...[/brag] At the very least you have people talking about me instead of talking about potential other scum (not exclusively of course, but I am a focal point of conversation at the start of this day).

[faust]

Can you provide a single example of you voting for someone on your own initiative in this game?

I started the Awaclus wagon. I could list other examples, but you know, you asked for a single one, so I'm not going to do that work.

[faust]

Actually I kind of like off-wagon, which would only leave EgorK, Ampharos, Hydrad, and Teproc.  Teproc sounds town.

Why this? I mean, Egor, Ampharos and Hydrad are all a bit scummy, so the selection is not bad, but you seem to have come to this the other way around.

[Roadrunner7671]

The main thing that makes me think Faust is town is his outburst against Iguanaiguana on early D1. As scum, he should've and probably woulf've continued leading the town (to destruction, like he does when he is scum).

I'm thinking about Vote: Iguanaiguana , but I'm not sure if that's the right move.
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