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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1400 on: December 09, 2015, 03:25:39 am »

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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1401 on: December 09, 2015, 04:14:18 am »

So Awaclus can still talk? Is that right? That's good to have.
Nk could be worse too, no offence to Ss.

Obvious candidates for today are yuma and RR, but how about vote: e as an alternate?
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M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1402 on: December 09, 2015, 04:15:55 am »

Thanks, mod!Hydrad ?

silverspawn, huh. That's unexpected. Let's take a look.

PPE : That is an excellent question. I don't quite understand what "active tree stump" means.

ash, can we get a vote count ?
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1403 on: December 09, 2015, 04:16:17 am »

So Awaclus can still talk? Is that right? That's good to have.
Nk could be worse too, no offence to Ss.

Obvious candidates for today are yuma and RR, but how about vote: e as an alternate?

Why is RR an obvious candidate ?
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1404 on: December 09, 2015, 04:17:26 am »

Actually vote count won't tell me much if Awaclus is a tree stump.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1405 on: December 09, 2015, 04:32:34 am »

So Awaclus can still talk? Is that right? That's good to have.
Nk could be worse too, no offence to Ss.

Obvious candidates for today are yuma and RR, but how about vote: e as an alternate?

Why is RR an obvious candidate ?
I don't actually think he's scum.  I'm just saying those last two votes (from yuma and RR) look pretty suspicious at first glance.  When you think about it some more it seems like it might be too bold a play for scum to make.  Maybe I could see it from yuma? 

Hence I'm going for now with someone onwagon who I already found scummy.

This is by no means authoritative, just a start.  Obviously a proper reread is in order.
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M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1406 on: December 09, 2015, 04:38:16 am »

Vote: yuma. I do not believe about not getting PPE, sorry
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1407 on: December 09, 2015, 04:45:16 am »

Vote Count 2.0:

2.7 (1): Haddock
yuma (1): EgorK

Not Voting (9): Ampharos, Hydrad, yuma, 2.7, Teproc, faust, WW, iguanaiguana, RR

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Day Two ends at 3:00 a.m. on December 19.
« Last Edit: December 09, 2015, 04:48:50 am by ashersky »
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1408 on: December 09, 2015, 04:47:18 am »

Was there any problem with formatting or you just missed my vote?
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1409 on: December 09, 2015, 04:49:04 am »

Was there any problem with formatting or you just missed my vote?

Sorry, just missed it.  Fixed.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1410 on: December 09, 2015, 05:07:57 am »

So, silver.

Early on, he was all about iguana, got bogged down in a scumslip discussion. IIRC he never really dropped his suspicion of igua, we'll see how that plays out.

I like that much more!

but I'm not so sure about igu being scum anymore after his most recent posts. His 'I went wrong as town last game, I'm not gonna do that mistake again' read genuine to me.

is your vote serious?

Or not.

Votes for Ampharos, WW, then back to Ampharos, whom he pushes a lot. He then grows unsure about Ampharos.

Declares RR obv!town, votes Awaclus, then Haddock, then Hydrad for posting only fluff.

Calls a Hydrad/yuma/iguana team. Those are never very serious, but it does mean he still suspected iguana.

Well, he votesiguana again after his reads list, so there's that too.

see, this is one of the reasons why you are scummy, although not the most important one.

You think reads lists are towny. So you make a reads list, and now you expect to be towny because of it.

It does not work that way. towniness is not some progressive point gathering, it's a judgement of your alignment. Every scum can sit down and write a reads list. It depends on the content.

That's bad for you both because you have being towny in the forefront of your mind, and because you gave Amph unjustified town points.

Increasingly clashes with yuma over many things, mostly silver's case on iguana (he makes a case on him based on iguana's reads list somewhere in there). Things get out of hand.

Then votes Ampharos because his iguana vote is not doing anything.

After being absent for a while, comes back and asks if there's support for a Haddock or WW lynch. Still wants to lynch iguana.

Votes yuma for being inconsistent about the use of his power.

There are lots of towny people this game, not so many scummy people.

let's see

Witherweaver
yuma
silverspawn
Teproc
iguanaiguana
Hydrad
Roadrunner7671
2.7...
faust
Ampharos
EgorK
Awaclus
Haddock

At some point in here he sheeps me on e.

vote: YPG
vote: Awaclus
vote: e


we should lynch one of those guys. too much stalling is going on right now.

So... silver was moving his vote around a lot. By the end of day 1, he was clearly saying he was pretty unsure of his reads. Pretty much the only consisten thing is his scum read on igua (and his town on read on RR). He also suspected Ampharos a lot,and yuma to a certain extent. ENded up reversing on WW/Haddock, didn't look like a very strong read either way.

Didn't see any hintof PR, which, you know, he wasn't one so that makes sense.

Briefly looking at reads list towards the end of the day, it's not like he was a consensus town read either. But I guess no one really is in this game.

So... the obvious explanation here is "silverspawn is active, not the most likely to be lynched, generally pro-town, let's kill him". But why him more than other players who fit that description (there are a few) ? As scum, I kill people I think are going to suspect me in the future, preferably if they're not suspecting me now. I don't think iguana would have been that worried about silver : he continually failed to get support there, and killing him only serves to bring his case in the light again. I think his kill makes me suspect his null reads the most, from the above reads post. So that's {Teproc, Hydrad, 2.7, faust, Egork}.

There's also yuma, though I still think he's town. Annoying, but town. And there's Ampharos, whom I specifically reread during the night and concluded he was town. His reads are constantly moving in a way that feels ery organic, I think most of the suspicion he got was a playstyle thing, he's very self-aware, like silver actually when he started playing here.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1411 on: December 09, 2015, 05:30:31 am »

Vote: yuma. I do not believe about not getting PPE, sorry

Explain to me why, in your scenario, scum!yuma fakes a derphammer ?
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1412 on: December 09, 2015, 05:43:38 am »

Worth noting we had two wagons go to L-1 on day 1, both of them on town :

Vote Count :

silverspawn (6): yuma, WW, Hydrad, faust, iguanaiguana, Awaclus
iguanaiguana (1): Teproc
Faust (1): silverspawn
Hydrad (1): EgorK

Not Voting (4): RR, 2.7, Ampharos, Haddock

NB : not a real vote count, I edited it to show votes at the exact moment Awaclus briefly put silver at L-1.

Final Day 1 Vote Count:

Ampharos (1): Hydrad
yuma (1): Awaclus
2.7 (3): EgorK, Teproc, silverspawn
Awaclus (7): faust, WW, iguana, 2.7, Haddock, RR, yuma

Not Voting (1): Ampharos

Too earl to make much of it right now, but worth remembering.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1413 on: December 09, 2015, 05:50:53 am »

vote: faust
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1414 on: December 09, 2015, 05:51:58 am »

I think in your second vote could you meant to make awaclus green?
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1415 on: December 09, 2015, 05:53:47 am »

I think in your second vote could you meant to make awaclus green?

Right, yes. It should be forbidden to have people with the same starting letter in the same game, clearly.

Thoughts on stuff, Hydrad ?
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1416 on: December 09, 2015, 05:59:11 am »

I think in your second vote could you meant to make awaclus green?

Right, yes. It should be forbidden to have people with the same starting letter in the same game, clearly.

Thoughts on stuff, Hydrad ?

Hmm...

I guess i'm interested to see if awaclus can still post here.

as for nightkill I'm not able to gain a ton of info from a ss kill.

Yuma's hammer feels accidental and i still have him as a town read.

and I guess i'm wondering where your faust vote came from.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1417 on: December 09, 2015, 06:00:07 am »

Vote: amp
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1418 on: December 09, 2015, 06:00:23 am »

also going to sleep now. glhf!
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1419 on: December 09, 2015, 06:04:21 am »

Vote Count 2.1:

2.7 (1): Haddock
yuma (1): EgorK
faust (1): Teproc
Ampharos (1): Hydrad

Not Voting (7): Ampharos, yuma, 2.7, faust, WW, iguanaiguana, RR

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Day Two ends at 3:00 a.m. on December 19.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1420 on: December 09, 2015, 06:08:39 am »

Vote: yuma. I do not believe about not getting PPE, sorry

Explain to me why, in your scenario, scum!yuma fakes a derphammer ?

To get lynch through? As we would say as always "scum would never do this". Yuma would
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1421 on: December 09, 2015, 06:11:32 am »

Vote: yuma. I do not believe about not getting PPE, sorry

Explain to me why, in your scenario, scum!yuma fakes a derphammer ?

To get lynch through? As we would say as always "scum would never do this". Yuma would

Is an Awaclus lynch that hard to push through that he would have needed that ?
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1422 on: December 09, 2015, 06:13:46 am »

To get lynch through? As we would say as always "scum would never do this". Yuma would
I think yuma MIGHT.
But that would make two super-bold scum plays in one day - the claim and the hammer.  That would take some serious stones.
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M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1423 on: December 09, 2015, 06:39:54 am »

OK the vote count would strongly indicate that Awa is indeed dead-dead. 

I guess he was already a tree stump?  (ie. voteless or something).  Then we uprooted him. :(
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M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1424 on: December 09, 2015, 07:05:46 am »

Hello!
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