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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #875 on: December 03, 2015, 07:47:54 am »

One other general point:

I understand why many of you see me as scummy.  I really do.  This is not a new experience; I've gone through this at each site I've been to, especially in my early games, because my playstyle tends to come off scummy.  Just know that you're misinterpreting playstyle for scum play. 

(It usually takes at least one game of getting mislynched early to get this point to sink in.  However, I'm trying to do my best to prevent a mislynch here.)


Other random point:

I'm having a really hard time reading Egor.  He's playing differently from last game, but last game was an RMM where everyone plays a bit differently anyways.  I feel like he's more vocal in general though, and that tends to lean slightly scummy, though could be me doing the exact same thing to him that I'm encouraging you all not to do to me. :P
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #876 on: December 03, 2015, 07:48:50 am »

I could see myself lynching haddock. I got  lots and lots of town vibes in JK and get none here at all.

any thoughts?

It seems like you consistently, throughout the entire game, can 'see yourself lynching' anyone who openly disagrees with you.
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Igu is town or trying the hardest he ever has as scum.

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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #877 on: December 03, 2015, 07:49:07 am »

I no longer am super duper happy with the Egor lynch. Who would I be okay to lynch, you might ask? Here it is, from scummiest to towniest.
Amaphoros
Iguanaiguana?
Egor
Yuma
Hydrad
Roadrunner

How can yuma not be the scummiest? It's flagrant that he's not town.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #878 on: December 03, 2015, 08:07:57 am »

I could see myself lynching haddock. I got  lots and lots of town vibes in JK and get none here at all.

any thoughts?

It seems like you consistently, throughout the entire game, can 'see yourself lynching' anyone who openly disagrees with you.

I can see myself lynching a lot of people period. I didn't even know haddock was disagreeing with me on anything.

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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #879 on: December 03, 2015, 08:13:37 am »

with barely any good reason at all.

if by 'barely any good reason' you mean the best case that has been made this game

My comment above was based on you making this one. I admit I may be have completely misread your motives.
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Igu is town or trying the hardest he ever has as scum.

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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #880 on: December 03, 2015, 08:34:43 am »

with barely any good reason at all.

if by 'barely any good reason' you mean the best case that has been made this game

My comment above was based on you making this one. I admit I may be have completely misread your motives.

oh, that's right. I did disagree with him.

It's coincidence, though:

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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #881 on: December 03, 2015, 08:49:01 am »

Vote Count 1.8:

iguanaiguana (1): Hydrad
silverspawn (1): Haddock
Witherweaver (1): Awaclus
Ampharos (3): 2.7, WW, ss
faust (1): Ampharos
EgorK (3): iguana, faust, RR
RR (1): EgorK
Hydrad (1): Teproc

Not Voting (1): yuma

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on December 8 at 9:00 a.m. forum time.

This is bad. All those people who are the only person voting for someone, I would really love to hear why.

We need more wagons. I love your individual opinions, but we have to do something. Put a bite on your second best or something.

So I agree with this. The main reason I haven't moved is because I don't like the case on Ampharos very much. Early on I said he was a loose cannon, but I don't think his loose cannon statements are indicative of alignment. I think they are just indicative of Ampharos being Ampharos. And the statements he's made that do not look like loose cannon statements look town to me. Obviously its hard to tell, because we only have one flip for Ampharos as town. In that game (RMM28) he was a lot lurkier than here, but the kind of things he said were similar when he did talk.

So basically (in my mind) the case for scum!Ampharos is that he's intentionally making loose cannon statements in order to mask scumminess hidden beneath a surface appeal look of trying to help town. So if he's scum he's pretty good at it (which I think you've already said). It's possible... especially considering that he admits to having played before. But... eh... at this point I have a pretty bad feeling about it.


At this point the EgorK case is... also not great, but its at least better than the Ampharos case (in my view). We've never really had much of a wagon on Egor either, but several people have voted for him and then unvoted at various times. So I'm willing to believe that it could happen, and I Egor has at least decent chances of being scum.

The biggest problem right now is that when people unvote from a wagon they don't go to another wagon, they go to some random vote (like how Egor just changed from RR to e) and so even though people are changing their votes, we are still in constant disagreement.

It's a mess.
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Igu is town or trying the hardest he ever has as scum.

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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #882 on: December 03, 2015, 09:07:06 am »

Does WW usually throw his vote around this much? Wait I'm confusing faust's avatar with WW's.  Fail.  Forget that.

Because we look so similar.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #883 on: December 03, 2015, 09:07:58 am »

Its just silver and faust. WW and 2.7 moved off, both to Awaclus.

Looking at the whole game, those and iguana have voted for you.

So, when you say scum is on your wagon, who do you find scummy among those 4 ? faust obviously, who else ?

There's the potential for WW to be scum this game.

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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #884 on: December 03, 2015, 09:09:59 am »

Vote Count 1.8:

iguanaiguana (1): Hydrad
silverspawn (1): Haddock
Witherweaver (1): Awaclus
Ampharos (3): 2.7, WW, ss
faust (1): Ampharos
EgorK (3): iguana, faust, RR
RR (1): EgorK
Hydrad (1): Teproc

Not Voting (1): yuma

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on December 8 at 9:00 a.m. forum time.

This isn't right.. I'm voting Awaclus; Awaclus (at least was) voting Yuma.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #885 on: December 03, 2015, 09:10:25 am »

Ampharos still looks pretty scummy with the latest posts.  He's better than Egor, I think.

Of course, we can always lynch Awaclus. 
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #886 on: December 03, 2015, 10:08:20 am »

Vote Count 1.9:

silverspawn (1): Haddock
Ampharos (3): ss, faust, Hydrad
faust (1): Ampharos
EgorK (3): iguana, RR, Teproc
RR (1): EgorK
yuma (1): Awaclus
Awaclus (2): WW, 2.7

Not Voting (1): yuma

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on December 8 at 9:00 a.m. forum time.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #887 on: December 03, 2015, 10:12:16 am »

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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #888 on: December 03, 2015, 10:12:53 am »

Vote Count 1.9:

silverspawn (1): Haddock
Ampharos (3): ss, faust, Hydrad
faust (1): Ampharos
EgorK (3): iguana, RR, Teproc
RR (1): EgorK
yuma (1): Awaclus
Awaclus (2): WW, 2.7

Not Voting (1): yuma

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on December 8 at 9:00 a.m. forum time.

Haddock switched to Egor I believe. Didn't realize there were 4 on him (didn't realize RR didn't actually switch off)
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #889 on: December 03, 2015, 10:14:34 am »

The Golden Rule:
This is a game. Everyone who signs up to play must be considerate of each other, never get personal, and focus on having fun. Once the game starts, having signed up is a commitment: inactivity is just as inconsiderate as rude comments.


I think yuma has been violating this rule. Will there be any consequences?
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #890 on: December 03, 2015, 10:16:10 am »

The Golden Rule:
This is a game. Everyone who signs up to play must be considerate of each other, never get personal, and focus on having fun. Once the game starts, having signed up is a commitment: inactivity is just as inconsiderate as rude comments.


I think yuma has been violating this rule. Will there be any consequences?

Seconded.  Interested to see what the ruling will be, if any.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #891 on: December 03, 2015, 10:19:51 am »

vote: yuma

Not a policy vote.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #892 on: December 03, 2015, 10:25:49 am »

It's tempting...

Up until now, I thought this could be yuma trying to generate reactions by not posting... which, while not my playstyle, might be useful. But the fact that he continues this after lots of reacting has happened makes me think that this is not the case.

So he might be genuinely frustrated. I have reason to believe this might not be the case.

That would leave only scum, yes? I have restated my question to ash via PM as no questions in the thread will be answered. So let's see where that goes first. But I am prepared to vote for yuma if nothing happens.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #893 on: December 03, 2015, 10:27:03 am »

Okay, I won't get an answer.

Vote: yuma
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #894 on: December 03, 2015, 10:27:37 am »

It's tempting...

Up until now, I thought this could be yuma trying to generate reactions by not posting... which, while not my playstyle, might be useful. But the fact that he continues this after lots of reacting has happened makes me think that this is not the case.

So he might be genuinely frustrated. I have reason to believe this might not be the case.

That would leave only scum, yes? I have restated my question to ash via PM as no questions in the thread will be answered. So let's see where that goes first. But I am prepared to vote for yuma if nothing happens.

That's my thinking, yes. And I'm now excluding town!frustrated!yuma, because if he were that upset, he'd have been replaced.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #895 on: December 03, 2015, 10:29:06 am »

I don't really buy that.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #896 on: December 03, 2015, 10:30:22 am »

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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #897 on: December 03, 2015, 10:32:15 am »

All of it?
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #898 on: December 03, 2015, 10:33:24 am »

All of it?

Let me rephrase : what are your thoughts on yuma ?
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #899 on: December 03, 2015, 10:40:25 am »

I don't see him doing that as Mafia (scum with teammates).  Maybe as some third party (Survivor or SK), but I don't have any reason to think he's scum.  I assume he'll come back eventually and don't see a benefit in the lynch.
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