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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #325 on: November 28, 2015, 12:45:03 pm »

I feel he is at least 50% chance of being scum.  I have nothing to back it up other than a sense that they're just going along with the crowd, playing a traditional safe day 1 scum.  Nothing extraordinary, nothing too dull.  As said before, I've never played them (him? yes?), so I could be off, but man.  Teh feelz.

Teproc is a guy, according to his forum profile.

And couldn't I just as easily turn this logic around on you? With your shocking total of six posts?

Of course you could!  I'd be glad to have an in-depth conversation with you for all to see about my potential townness or lack thereof.  However, I'm guessing we won't because you're already pretty sure I'm town.  But that is of course up to you.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #326 on: November 28, 2015, 12:50:06 pm »

You know what yellow Pokèmon guy? Let's talk about how you may be scum.

You're the wild card. We don't know how you behave as scum. Wouldn't it be the safe thing to lynch you because we don't know how you behave as scum?

(I'm playing devil's advocate)
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #327 on: November 28, 2015, 12:58:46 pm »

Fair.  I think the standard thing for scum is to try to float by, looking useful without causing too much of a stir.  There are exceptions, (Faust in the RMM game that just finished), but especially for people as myself who have played maybe 15 forum games total, we tend to not get TOO crazy as scum, especially early when not pressure.  Of course, having just said all that, it makes everything I do as potential scum WIFOM, but hey.  That's the game. 

I don't agree with lynching me because you don't know how I play as scum.  You want to lynch someone that either has a good potential of being scum (which really based on my playstyle I wouldn't lynch myself yet if I were another person in this game), or someone who will give boatloads of info on a flip.  Just lynching people cause you don't know how they play isn't very productive. 

Now, if the game goes later and you still have no idea if I'm scum or not, then you seriously start asking yourself: could this guy be scum?  But again you will probably end up realizing I'm not.  Course, I can't make up your mind for you; I'm just being honest about what you will probably end up thinking. 

Good stuff.  As Peyton Manning once said: "I like it."
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #328 on: November 28, 2015, 01:09:46 pm »

okay, vote: Ampharos

great job RR

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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #329 on: November 28, 2015, 01:10:03 pm »

sigh vote: Ampharos

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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #330 on: November 28, 2015, 01:15:20 pm »

Eh?
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #331 on: November 28, 2015, 01:22:17 pm »

Eh?

SS is voting me, hoping to pressure me into saying something scummy.  Don't worry about it, because he changes votes about as often as... something cliche.  I'm looking to get this over with quickly, so we can get back to scum hunting.  I'll be back when we're ready for that.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #332 on: November 28, 2015, 01:22:47 pm »

A lot of water from Ampharos. Reason to do this as either alignment escapes me
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #333 on: November 28, 2015, 01:37:11 pm »

Eh?

SS is voting me, hoping to pressure me into saying something scummy.  Don't worry about it, because he changes votes about as often as... something cliche.  I'm looking to get this over with quickly, so we can get back to scum hunting.  I'll be back when we're ready for that.

no, I'm voting for you because you already said something scummy. Not looking to change it.

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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #334 on: November 28, 2015, 01:42:50 pm »

okay, vote: Ampharos

great job RR
I did I thing?

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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #335 on: November 28, 2015, 05:35:24 pm »

Hello? Why did the game quiet down a ton?
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #336 on: November 28, 2015, 06:33:29 pm »

Hello? Why did the game quiet down a ton?
Some kind of holiday weekend in the US, isn't it?  Not sure.

Anyway, not sure what to say at this point.  I want to hear more from Ampharos before I come down either way for him.  Struggling with everyone else.

I just want to say well said re. faust's thing.  I've only played a couple of games, but it does seem like people put a lot on faust in terms of expecting him to scumhunt for them.  It just seems like such a bad idea.  It's a teambased game, you can't rely on one person.  Particularly since sometimes he's scum.
I don't think it can be a scumtell for him to scumhunt less (if indeed he is doing so).  Scum!faust surely goes out of his way to appear to scumhunt as much as town!faust usually does.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #337 on: November 28, 2015, 10:37:36 pm »

Ya I`m guessing monday it will pick up again.
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For anyone else, such a statement would be a scum tell.  For Hydrad, it's simply a tell that you're reading something from Hydrad.

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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #338 on: November 28, 2015, 10:38:09 pm »

okay, vote: Ampharos

great job RR

But I`m also kinda curious where the RR thanking came from.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #339 on: November 28, 2015, 10:38:48 pm »

You know what yellow Pokèmon guy? Let's talk about how you may be scum.

You're the wild card. We don't know how you behave as scum. Wouldn't it be the safe thing to lynch you because we don't know how you behave as scum?

(I'm playing devil's advocate)

Oh nvm I`m guessing it was this post. Somehow I missed it when I first posted.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #340 on: November 28, 2015, 11:08:11 pm »

Eh?

SS is voting me, hoping to pressure me into saying something scummy.  Don't worry about it, because he changes votes about as often as... something cliche.  I'm looking to get this over with quickly, so we can get back to scum hunting.  I'll be back when we're ready for that.

no, I'm voting for you because you already said something scummy. Not looking to change it.

Looks like we found something we agree on.

Vote: Ampharos
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #341 on: November 28, 2015, 11:38:24 pm »

What was it that he said?
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #342 on: November 29, 2015, 12:03:03 am »

He said:

Fair.  I think the standard thing for scum is to try to float by, looking useful without causing too much of a stir.  There are exceptions, (Faust in the RMM game that just finished), but especially for people as myself who have played maybe 15 forum games total, we tend to not get TOO crazy as scum, especially early when not pressure.  Of course, having just said all that, it makes everything I do as potential scum WIFOM, but hey.  That's the game. 

I don't agree with lynching me because you don't know how I play as scum.  You want to lynch someone that either has a good potential of being scum (which really based on my playstyle I wouldn't lynch myself yet if I were another person in this game), or someone who will give boatloads of info on a flip.  Just lynching people cause you don't know how they play isn't very productive. 

Now, if the game goes later and you still have no idea if I'm scum or not, then you seriously start asking yourself: could this guy be scum?  But again you will probably end up realizing I'm not.  Course, I can't make up your mind for you; I'm just being honest about what you will probably end up thinking. 

Good stuff.  As Peyton Manning once said: "I like it."
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #343 on: November 29, 2015, 12:38:28 am »

No, Awaclus, what was his scum tell? :-\
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #344 on: November 29, 2015, 07:02:18 am »

Vote: Ampharos
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #345 on: November 29, 2015, 07:31:30 am »

His scum tells are

- Look, I am calmly thinking about the possibility of scum!me, but it doesn't matter, since it's all hypothetical
- LOOK, I TOTALLY DO NOT FEEL PRESSURED BY YOUR VOTE!

These are the most important ones.

There's also

- Look, I consider your scum read on me to be valid
- Look, I am totally calm about the option of lynching me and am judging it objectively
- Obligatory 'you will realize I'm town' near the end

All of those (except maybe the last one if you take it out of context) are more likely to be from fairly new scum than fairly new town

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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #346 on: November 29, 2015, 07:45:35 am »

Those are actually good points.

What do you think about Haddock?
 
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #347 on: November 29, 2015, 08:15:23 am »

His scum tells are

- Look, I am calmly thinking about the possibility of scum!me, but it doesn't matter, since it's all hypothetical
- LOOK, I TOTALLY DO NOT FEEL PRESSURED BY YOUR VOTE!

These are the most important ones.

There's also

- Look, I consider your scum read on me to be valid
- Look, I am totally calm about the option of lynching me and am judging it objectively
- Obligatory 'you will realize I'm town' near the end

All of those (except maybe the last one if you take it out of context) are more likely to be from fairly new scum than fairly new town

I'M NOT CALM ABOUT THIS POSSIBILITY!!!! IT IS FREAKING ME OUT!
I AM SO TOTALLY PRESSURED BY YOUR VOTE, SO MUCH THAT IT MAKES ME TYPE IN CAPS AND MISS PUNCUTATION!!!111oneoneone

But wait!  For only $29.99 more, you get:

Your scum read of me is totally not valid in any way!
I am peeing my pants cause I'm so scared about getting lynched!
You'll never get the fact that I'm town, so why try?


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In all seriousness, that last one is kinda true.  I see what you're doing, but you're just wasting my time (I would say our time but technically you don't know my role, so you get a pass this time.). Go at least look at Teproc.  Also, consider the fact that I'm not that new (around 15 forum games and several hundred irc) and have developed my own playstyle.

(There are 15 scum tells in the above sentences; if you don't get them all, you're scum!!!!1111 one)
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #348 on: November 29, 2015, 08:25:13 am »

Those are actually good points.

What do you think about Haddock?
 

I think he was scummy, but I don't remember why.

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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #349 on: November 29, 2015, 08:26:14 am »

Also, consider the fact that I'm not that new (around 15 forum games and several hundred irc

mafia games? or just games?

in case of the latter, how does that make you any less new?
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