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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2015 Edition
« Reply #100 on: October 23, 2015, 03:41:21 pm »
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2015 Edition
« Reply #101 on: October 26, 2015, 08:40:28 pm »
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Just finished my lists. Apparently King's Court is 4th in the $6+ cards. I didn't think it would be that low, but I'm happy with that. Man, Events are really stinking good.

I remember doing a list of "favorites" before, I assume that's not happening this time, so I don't think I'm going to do the all cards list -- that's going to take forever.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2015 Edition
« Reply #102 on: October 27, 2015, 12:05:37 am »
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Do my rankings still count for something if I didn't finish all of the card duels for that category? (wondering if I should do some of each category or focus on finishing one more category, cause I got through the 2s and 3s and I think I might be past halfway on the 4s, so I wanted to do a little bit of the 5s & 6s too if they'd count.)


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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2015 Edition
« Reply #103 on: October 27, 2015, 06:42:29 am »
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Oh shit these are due really soon. I've really got to get to work on these.

I've been playing a lot of games with Events to try and learn them all to rank them accurately, and man Events are super fucking good. Just played a game where I opened Ferry / Hireling and got a 9 card hand every turn in no time, then picked up a bunch of $5 cost Expands to make a bunch of Provinces on a megaturn. Before that I played a game with Pathfinding where I turned Magpie into a super-Laboratory that gained copies of itself. And of course there's always Lost Arts combined with any terminal draw.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2015 Edition
« Reply #104 on: October 27, 2015, 06:45:18 am »
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Oh shit these are due really soon. I've really got to get to work on these.

I've been playing a lot of games with Events to try and learn them all to rank them accurately, and man Events are super fucking good. Just played a game where I opened Ferry / Hireling and got a 9 card hand every turn in no time, then picked up a bunch of $5 cost Expands to make a bunch of Provinces on a megaturn. Before that I played a game with Pathfinding where I turned Magpie into a super-Laboratory that gained copies of itself. And of course there's always Lost Arts combined with any terminal draw.

Those token events are super strong because you only have to spend one buy on them and you get the effect for the rest of the game. With something like King's Court, you need lots of them in your deck to really start to do broken things and that's expensive, but I put two events above King's Court this time and felt pretty good about it.

I also put Goons above KC. I'm not sure if I had done that in the past...
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2015 Edition
« Reply #105 on: October 27, 2015, 08:54:48 am »
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I agree with Lost Arts and Pathfinding to be really, really high but do you have training up there aswell? In my ranking, it's close to the bottom so far.

And inheritance is the total wildcard for me, I'm completely unsure how to rank that one. (It's pretty far up so far)
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2015 Edition
« Reply #106 on: October 27, 2015, 08:56:08 am »
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It was Inheritance and Lost Arts that were above King's Court. Pathfinding was like 60-70% and Training was towards the bottom.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2015 Edition
« Reply #107 on: October 27, 2015, 09:07:27 am »
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Training seems good but not like "OMG broken" good which is where we're at with King's Court.
Like drsteelhammer, I had really big problems to imagine how good Inheritance is and I'm quite baffled you put it over KC.
I still have KC first - I just can't believe we'll ever have a better Dominion card - followed by Pathfinding and Lost Arts with Goons only on 4, Inheritance and Training are somewhere in the mid field.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2015 Edition
« Reply #108 on: October 27, 2015, 09:11:00 am »
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Here's my list :)
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1.) King's Court   [X]
2.) Goons   [X]
3.) Lost Arts   [X]
4.) Pathfinding   [X]
5.) Grand Market   [X]
6.) Hunting Grounds   [X]
7.) Border Village   [X]
8.) Inheritance   [X]
9.) Training   [X]
10.) Altar   [X]
11.) Hireling   [X]
12.) Forge   [X]
13.) Nobles   [X]
14.) Expand   [X]
15.) Bank   [X]
16.) Prince   [X]
17.) Hoard   [X]
18.) Harem   [X]
19.) Peddler   [X]
20.) Adventurer   [X]
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2015 Edition
« Reply #109 on: October 27, 2015, 09:29:24 am »
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OK OK, I guess I'll post my list. This list is harder than others obvo because there are differing costs in this list, so you have to take that into account. Like, Pathfinding is really good but $8 is like so many dollars, man.

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1.) Lost Arts   [X]
2.) Goons   [X]
3.) Inheritance   [X]
4.) King's Court   [X]
5.) Grand Market   [X]
6.) Hunting Grounds   [X]
7.) Pathfinding   [X]
8.) Fairgrounds   [X]
9.) Hireling   [X]
10.) Peddler   [X]
11.) Forge   [X]
12.) Altar   [X]
13.) Prince   [X]
14.) Border Village   [X]
15.) Expand   [X]
16.) Bank   [X]
17.) Hoard   [X]
18.) Training   [X]
19.) Nobles   [X]
20.) Farmland   [X]
21.) Harem   [X]
22.) Adventurer   [X]
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2015 Edition
« Reply #110 on: October 27, 2015, 09:34:59 am »
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... at least we agree on the last three, Adam, although I still have Harem > Farmland ;)
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2015 Edition
« Reply #111 on: October 27, 2015, 09:37:06 am »
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I'm sorry, Adam, but "dollars" are not a fungible asset in the land of Dominion.  Perhaps you'd like to visit the currency exchange?
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2015 Edition
« Reply #112 on: October 27, 2015, 09:38:12 am »
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... at least we agree on the last three, Adam, although I still have Harem > Farmland ;)

I sat there thinking for a long time on that particular duel, actually. I figured Harem's money is much less conditional than Farmland's (I often say that Farmland is like a Silver that's only good for buying Provinces), but Farmland's on-gain ability is more flexible than Harem's. After like 3 minutes I decided it wasn't worth thinking about any longer and went with the one that I buy more often, which is Farmland.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2015 Edition
« Reply #113 on: October 28, 2015, 09:53:18 am »
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I signed in as my name, did my list through dueling, then adjusted a little, then saved at the bottom.  Did this for each cost.

Question is that all I have to do?  or do I need to save my complete list, or copy and paste and send it to you?  just want to make sure my rankings get added in because I have been a long time fan of your rankings Qvist and this is the first time I am ranking.  Thank you!
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2015 Edition
« Reply #114 on: October 28, 2015, 12:01:37 pm »
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Here is my list, for what it's worth.  It's interesting to see how many of us who have lots of experience playing with most of these cards, can still differ quite a bit on certain cards.  I think different playing styles and special encounters with a specific card, really factor in to that.Your ranking

1.) Goons   [X]
2.) King's Court   [X]
3.) Lost Arts   [X]
4.) Pathfinding   [X]
5.) Prince   [X]
6.) Grand Market   [X]
7.) Inheritance   [X]
8.) Nobles   [X]
9.) Border Village   [X]
10.) Hoard   [X]
11.) Hunting Grounds   [X]
12.) Hireling   [X]
13.) Peddler   [X]
14.) Training   [X]
15.) Bank   [X]
16.) Altar   [X]
17.) Forge   [X]
18.) Expand   [X]
19.) Fairgrounds   [X]
20.) Harem   [X]
21.) Farmland   [X]
22.) Adventurer   [X]
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2015 Edition
« Reply #115 on: October 28, 2015, 12:55:52 pm »
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Why does nobody have Possession in the top list? I know, it is very expensive, but that shouldn't matter in this ranking. And another whole turn is great, especially, if you can get more than one of them.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2015 Edition
« Reply #116 on: October 28, 2015, 01:03:05 pm »
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Why does nobody have Possession in the top list? I know, it is very expensive, but that shouldn't matter in this ranking. And another whole turn is great, especially, if you can get more than one of them.

Possession does not cost +.  It costs .  Therefore it goes in the list.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2015 Edition
« Reply #117 on: October 28, 2015, 01:07:09 pm »
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Why does nobody have Possession in the top list? I know, it is very expensive, but that shouldn't matter in this ranking. And another whole turn is great, especially, if you can get more than one of them.

Possession does not cost +.  It costs .  Therefore it goes in the list.
Are this the 6+-lists? I thought, they were the list with all cards...
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2015 Edition
« Reply #118 on: October 28, 2015, 04:08:34 pm »
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Do my rankings still count for something if I didn't finish all of the card duels for that category?

Your lists count even if you didn't finish all the lists.

I signed in as my name, did my list through dueling, then adjusted a little, then saved at the bottom.  Did this for each cost.

Question is that all I have to do?  or do I need to save my complete list, or copy and paste and send it to you?  just want to make sure my rankings get added in because I have been a long time fan of your rankings Qvist and this is the first time I am ranking.  Thank you!


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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2015 Edition
« Reply #119 on: October 28, 2015, 04:20:35 pm »
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Why does nobody have Possession in the top list? I know, it is very expensive, but that shouldn't matter in this ranking. And another whole turn is great, especially, if you can get more than one of them.

Possession does not cost +.  It costs .  Therefore it goes in the list.
Are this the 6+-lists? I thought, they were the list with all cards...

Yes, we were discussing the 6+ list. But Possession hasn't been near the top for the potion cards the last years, so I doubt it'd be on top overall now.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2015 Edition
« Reply #120 on: October 28, 2015, 04:27:35 pm »
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Ok, if everyone posts his list, then I'll do the same ;-)

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1.) King's Court   [X]
2.) Grand Market   [X]
3.) Goons   [X]
4.) Pathfinding   [X]
5.) Hireling   [X]
6.) Prince   [X]
7.) Inheritance   [X]
8.) Lost Arts   [X]
9.) Bank   [X]
10.) Altar   [X]
11.) Expand   [X]
12.) Nobles   [X]
13.) Hoard   [X]
14.) Training   [X]
15.) Hunting Grounds   [X]
16.) Forge   [X]
17.) Fairgrounds   [X]
18.) Border Village   [X]
19.) Harem   [X]
20.) Adventurer   [X]
21.) Farmland   [X]
22.) Peddler   [X]
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2015 Edition
« Reply #121 on: October 28, 2015, 05:22:44 pm »
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Why does nobody have Possession in the top list? I know, it is very expensive, but that shouldn't matter in this ranking. And another whole turn is great, especially, if you can get more than one of them.

Possession does not cost +.  It costs .  Therefore it goes in the list.

To be completely pedantic, 6P is more than 6, and thus Possession does cost 6+. So for example if you bought Possession with Haggler you could gain a Gold. However, the intent of the list clearly was not to include Potion cards.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2015 Edition
« Reply #122 on: October 28, 2015, 08:42:31 pm »
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I think I have Possession somewhere around... 7th or 8th on my Potion list. Above Transmute and Philosopher's Stone, naturally. Not sure exactly what else is hovering around its level. It's got a few cases where it's really good, but it costs so much (especially if there's no other Potion cards) and normally isn't too crazy. Plus, most of the Potion cards are really good, so it's up against stiff competition.
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« Reply #123 on: October 29, 2015, 08:36:01 am »
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I think I have Possession somewhere around... 7th or 8th on my Potion list. Above Transmute and Philosopher's Stone, naturally. Not sure exactly what else is hovering around its level. It's got a few cases where it's really good, but it costs so much (especially if there's no other Potion cards) and normally isn't too crazy. Plus, most of the Potion cards are really good, so it's up against stiff competition.

I think the biggest issue is that when Possession tends to be good, it is also super swingy like KC Possession or having Amb. out. For example, yesterday, I played an Ambassador game with lots of engine components, got Possession, but my opponent managed to Amb. my Possession to him, and I kept rebuying it, but he accumulated enough Possessions to stop me from doing anything. Essentially, I am saying the card is not worth buying at all, or can be a very swingy card. Although KC games with Possession or with Amb. I guess aren't too common.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2015 Edition
« Reply #124 on: October 29, 2015, 08:48:45 am »
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Yes, the other potion cards are just too good. I have Possession on #7, too, right before Golem. But I can see a point in doing it the other way around. The gap between 6 and 7 is quite big in my mind, though.

Just checked 2013 and 2014: Possession was on #8 in both years.
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