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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day5)
« Reply #1300 on: November 21, 2015, 09:13:31 pm »

iguana, I need you to claim your target.

Does it have to be iguana? Since I'm guessing someone got told they got targetted so that would save time.

That would work as well I suppose.

he targetted me. Just wanted to make sure there wasn't some sort of plan i would ruin by saying that.
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day5)
« Reply #1301 on: November 21, 2015, 09:27:00 pm »

Most curious. It fits with my information, so that's good.

I think I have this game solved. Obviously for that to work, you need to assume that I am town.

If I am town, so is RR.

Tonight, I targetted WW. That was a bit of a gambit - I thought to myself "how do we lose this game?" Well, the obvious next lynch targets were iguana/WW. If iguana was town, I was pretty sure he would jailkeep WW because he believed in a Xerxes/WW team. So if WW was scum, he would be jailkept and we'd get no night kill, it would not be the end of the world if I died because iguana could just have jailkept WW again. And I was pretty sure scum would not kill WW, so I was safe from kills there.

Now obviously I live. WW is town (or, non-mafia - it's not out of the question for this game to have a Survivor I guess).

So, I am town, WW is town, RR is town.

That leaves iguana/Hydrad. iguana is plenty scummy, but to be absolutely sure, we could also lynch Hydrad and if he's town have him shoot iguana. Obviously that requires iguana's cooperation.
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day5)
« Reply #1302 on: November 21, 2015, 10:01:18 pm »

Most curious. It fits with my information, so that's good.

I think I have this game solved. Obviously for that to work, you need to assume that I am town.

If I am town, so is RR.

Tonight, I targetted WW. That was a bit of a gambit - I thought to myself "how do we lose this game?" Well, the obvious next lynch targets were iguana/WW. If iguana was town, I was pretty sure he would jailkeep WW because he believed in a Xerxes/WW team. So if WW was scum, he would be jailkept and we'd get no night kill, it would not be the end of the world if I died because iguana could just have jailkept WW again. And I was pretty sure scum would not kill WW, so I was safe from kills there.

Now obviously I live. WW is town (or, non-mafia - it's not out of the question for this game to have a Survivor I guess).

So, I am town, WW is town, RR is town.

That leaves iguana/Hydrad. iguana is plenty scummy, but to be absolutely sure, we could also lynch Hydrad and if he's town have him shoot iguana. Obviously that requires iguana's cooperation.

one thing is that we can also clear you being town kinda thing with us lynching iguana first. then next day if we are wrong to lynch me and i shoot you.
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day5)
« Reply #1303 on: November 21, 2015, 11:37:47 pm »

I jailkept Hydrad and there was still a kill. After yesterday's endgame I no longer believed that Witherweaver/Faust was possible.

I don't know what to say. I know what I know and all of the people Faust has vouched for cannot possibly be town. Therefore, unless Hydrad can kill while being jailkept or Town!Faust is either lying or mistaken, I'm forced to believe against all probability of reads that Faust is in fact scum.
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day5)
« Reply #1304 on: November 21, 2015, 11:43:27 pm »

I'm sorry I meant I no longer believed WW/Xerxes was possible.

At any rate it hardly matters at all. If Faust is scum, we will lose because I was the only one who refused to blindly follow after the pied piper.

If faust is town, we likely still lose because he has made a mistake of some kind.

Either way my only vindication will be my death and my flip.

So go ahead and kill me you cowards.

<b> Vote: Iguana </b>
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day5)
« Reply #1305 on: November 21, 2015, 11:45:17 pm »

Bolded wrong dangit.

Guess I'd better change that to

Vote: Faust
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day5)
« Reply #1306 on: November 22, 2015, 12:08:47 am »

well I don't think this should be lylo. so I think we are still fine even if you get lynched.
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day5)
« Reply #1307 on: November 22, 2015, 01:07:29 am »

well I don't think this should be lylo. so I think we are still fine even if you get lynched.

O gee good point better just kill me.

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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day5)
« Reply #1308 on: November 22, 2015, 01:09:54 am »

well I don't think this should be lylo. so I think we are still fine even if you get lynched.

O gee good point better just kill me.

I'm not saying you have to be it. I'm fine with lynching you or faust today. And if we are wrong we lynch me the next day and I kill the other. Seems like a good deal to me!
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day5)
« Reply #1309 on: November 22, 2015, 01:11:14 am »


I think I have this game solved...
you need to assume that I am town.


He does have this game solved. He needs town to continue assuming he is town so that he can win.
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day5)
« Reply #1310 on: November 22, 2015, 01:13:22 am »

I jailkept you Hydrad. And there was still a kill. How can you be mafia and kill in jail? Explain that to me.

You aren't scum. It is Faust or WW. Probably Faust. So vote for him.
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day5)
« Reply #1311 on: November 22, 2015, 01:16:02 am »

iguana is plenty scummy,

DUDE!!! Screw you man!!! I don't care how scummy I look because YOU ARE THE SCUM.

DUDE BRO DUDE BRO DUDE BRO DUDE
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day5)
« Reply #1312 on: November 22, 2015, 01:17:14 am »

I jailkept you Hydrad. And there was still a kill. How can you be mafia and kill in jail? Explain that to me.

You aren't scum. It is Faust or WW. Probably Faust. So vote for him.

see but the issue here is I can't be 100% sure your town.

but faust has cleared WW and RR apparently. so either hes telling the truth or if hes lying hes scum and we win anyways.

Or its you.

The one thing I think that could happen to us is there is possibly 2 scum left somehow? Otherwise we should be fine.
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day5)
« Reply #1313 on: November 22, 2015, 01:20:35 am »

Tomorrow when I flip town, Faust goes after you Hydrad. This is how he wins. With his insane fake towncred.
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day5)
« Reply #1314 on: November 22, 2015, 01:23:33 am »

Tomorrow when I flip town, Faust goes after you Hydrad. This is how he wins. With his insane fake towncred.

well even if we end up lynching you and he goes after me we still win.

My role is pretty good it seems.
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day5)
« Reply #1315 on: November 22, 2015, 01:24:12 am »

also it doesn't matter to me that much I'm still fine going for faust today.

to me I don't really see a difference
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day5)
« Reply #1316 on: November 22, 2015, 01:40:06 am »

iguana is plenty scummy,

DUDE!!! Screw you man!!! I don't care how scummy I look because YOU ARE THE SCUM.

DUDE BRO DUDE BRO DUDE BRO DUDE
Very convincing.
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day5)
« Reply #1317 on: November 22, 2015, 02:42:28 am »

Then let's go for Faust. Roadrunner are you in?

Also if you let me live one more night and somehow its WW not Faust then I can at least Jailkeep him.
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day5)
« Reply #1318 on: November 22, 2015, 05:08:49 am »

Eh. No risks here. Scum could still somehow kill twice for all we know.

Vote: iguana

I'm sorry you're frustrated.
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day5)
« Reply #1319 on: November 22, 2015, 05:10:52 am »

iguana jailkeeping Hydrad when he thinks WW and me are scummy makes very little sense.
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day5)
« Reply #1320 on: November 22, 2015, 05:11:38 am »

hmm interesting thought came into my head. what happens if its me and scum as last 2 alive? is it a draw? because if he lynches me hes dead and if he kills me hes dead...
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day5)
« Reply #1321 on: November 22, 2015, 05:13:17 am »

hmm interesting thought came into my head. what happens if its me and scum as last 2 alive? is it a draw? because if he lynches me hes dead and if he kills me hes dead...

- In the event of a standstill, non-town aligned factions will be forced to act.
- in the event of a standstill that can't be broken the mod will determine the winner from a pre-established set of criteria that will not be made public. (Think how boxing wins are rewarded when no KO occurs). This will only be used as an absolute last resort under extreme situations.

I think the first point here means town wins? Mafia would be forced to kill you.
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day5)
« Reply #1322 on: November 22, 2015, 05:14:39 am »

Ah, no, I'm stupid... then mafia dies as well... I depends on how things are determined. Technically, for a short amount of time, the mafia player is the only one left alive. ... It might be a draw. Though yuma I think has said previously that he doesn't like draw endings, so maybe not.
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day5)
« Reply #1323 on: November 22, 2015, 05:15:03 am »

Anyway it shouldn't come to that. We can win this.
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day5)
« Reply #1324 on: November 22, 2015, 05:21:46 am »

I jailkept you Hydrad. And there was still a kill. How can you be mafia and kill in jail? Explain that to me.

Roles Possible in the Game

Ascetic, Commuter, Hider, Rolestopper, Strongman, Strong-willed

Now a lot of that does not make sense given that Hydrad knew you targetted him... but it is technically possible.
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