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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #950 on: October 26, 2015, 11:04:30 am »

Or before I saw your post, rather. You had probably sent it before I finished the re-read.
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #951 on: October 26, 2015, 11:10:30 am »

those that have decided against me have decided against me long, long before I ever did the gambit

I had just finished re-reading and concluded that I didn't see a particular reason to think you're scum before you claimed SK. But I won't be changing my mind now.

That is convenient. Or untimely unfortunate.

You did say you would do a reread here:
I'm not super against a yuma lynch at this moment, but I want to re-read before making a decision.

followed by my claim here:
Thanks!

I claim serial killer.

and then I am guessing you had finished your reread by here:
Vote: yuma

i mean I suppose I could try and be convinced to use my shot elsewhere... but then you would have to trust me to use it on that person and not on awaclus. And I can't guarantee that... But I could try to guarantee it.

Well, you're clearly not playing towards your win con, so there's absolutely no reason at all to trust you on anything.

All that adds up timestamp wise, so I guess I believe you.

I for one would have liked to have seen what you had written up from that reread, but then again you just don't post stuff just for the sake of posting it do you... even though it can often end up being useful later on.

Mums the word with you...
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #952 on: October 26, 2015, 11:12:09 am »

Or before I saw your post, rather. You had probably sent it before I finished the re-read.

And so if I am following correctly. You say you didn't think I was scum but then saw that I had claimed SK... so that must mean that what you had thought earlier (about me not being scum) was wrong. What withholds you from being wrong this time as well?

Or are you admitting that you think I am the SK and not mafia?
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #953 on: October 26, 2015, 11:22:08 am »

Or before I saw your post, rather. You had probably sent it before I finished the re-read.

And so if I am following correctly. You say you didn't think I was scum but then saw that I had claimed SK... so that must mean that what you had thought earlier (about me not being scum) was wrong. What withholds you from being wrong this time as well?

Well, I didn't have a super strong town read on you either, more like null. I would have voted for Haddock over you, though. But then you were claiming a win con that you weren't playing towards, and I continue to firmly believe that everyone who does that should always be lynched.
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #954 on: October 26, 2015, 11:30:25 am »

Or before I saw your post, rather. You had probably sent it before I finished the re-read.

And so if I am following correctly. You say you didn't think I was scum but then saw that I had claimed SK... so that must mean that what you had thought earlier (about me not being scum) was wrong. What withholds you from being wrong this time as well?

Well, I didn't have a super strong town read on you either, more like null. I would have voted for Haddock over you, though. But then you were claiming a win con that you weren't playing towards, and I continue to firmly believe that everyone who does that should always be lynched.

Well I don't disagree with you about lynching people who aren't playing toward their win con. No argument there. But I would say that this whole time I have been playing to my win condition, as was shown once I revealed my SK claim to be a gambit. I want to win. However, in this game winning doesn't necessarily mean staying alive... well if town it doesn't (SK has to stay alive, mafia needs to have at least one player stay alive. But town can die off. I have won multiple times as town after dying.

In this case I saw that I was dying soon via lynch. I felt there was more benefit to try and get information out of my lynch via the gambit than there was trying to forestall the inevitable.

So if you think I am scum then vote for me at this point. But you don't get to say whether or not I am playing to my win condition. I say that I am and believe I have helped town slightly (by providing info on finding the SK down the road) and more so than I would have by belligerently fighting my impending and certain lynch.
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #955 on: October 26, 2015, 11:57:20 am »

Chairs and Awaclus both will vote for me if Yuma is mafia. I expect that. I am so confident that Yuma isn't Mafia that I am willing to risk my life.
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #956 on: October 26, 2015, 11:59:57 am »

Chairs and Awaclus both will vote for me if Yuma is mafia. I expect that. I am so confident that Yuma isn't Mafia that I am willing to risk my life.

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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #957 on: October 26, 2015, 12:09:31 pm »

Chairs and Awaclus both will vote for me if Yuma is mafia. I expect that. I am so confident that Yuma isn't Mafia that I am willing to risk my life.

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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #958 on: October 26, 2015, 05:21:59 pm »

Just letting everyone know I'm still here.
I don't have much to add at this point unless people have questions for me.
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #959 on: October 26, 2015, 05:26:34 pm »

Just letting everyone know I'm still here.
I don't have much to add at this point unless people have questions for me.

I don't think you ever answered my "do you think I am mafia or SK?" question...
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #960 on: October 26, 2015, 05:34:02 pm »

Oh yeah maybe I didn't. 
On balance I think you're mafia.  Call it 65/35.
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M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #961 on: October 26, 2015, 05:39:41 pm »

For easy access later:

Thinks I am mafia: Haddock, Jimmmmm
Thinks I am SK: Awaclus (implied), gkrieg, chairs, WW

Thinks I am neither: RR, Ichi, Hydrad

Knows I am neither: yuma
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #962 on: October 26, 2015, 05:48:38 pm »

I reread.  I can't shake my gut.  Your original claim feels genuine.  If you faked it, you faked it well.  I guess that means your other one would have to have been you changing your mind and going for your only out, which is possible.   That's not quite convincing to me, but more convincing than you staging the first one as town, or as scum really. 

Anyway,

Vote: Yuma

Sorry if I'm wrong.
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #963 on: October 26, 2015, 05:49:30 pm »

sad face...

the saddest of the sad faces
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #964 on: October 26, 2015, 05:49:41 pm »

kill awaclus for me!
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #965 on: October 26, 2015, 05:52:15 pm »

Well he could be SK if you aren't.
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #966 on: October 26, 2015, 05:53:00 pm »

Well he could be SK if you aren't.

I'm not!
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #967 on: October 26, 2015, 05:53:54 pm »

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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #968 on: October 26, 2015, 05:58:59 pm »

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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #969 on: October 26, 2015, 06:01:31 pm »

Vote Count 2.Final

Haddock (2): Hydrad, Roadrunner7671
Yuma (6): Jimmmmm, Chairs, gkrieg13, Awaclus, Haddock, Witherweaver
Awaclus (1): Yuma

Not Voting (1): Ichimaru Gin

With 10 alive, it took 6 to lynch.
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #970 on: October 26, 2015, 06:03:30 pm »

Yuma has been lynched. He was the Mafia aligned Cop Switch.

N1 begins now and will last 48 hours until 10/28 at 6 pm forum time. Night actions are due before day start.

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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Night 2)
« Reply #971 on: October 28, 2015, 07:26:31 pm »

Witherweaver has been killed in the night. He was a Vanilla Townie.

Jimmmmm has been killed in the night. He was the town Vigilante.

D3 begins!
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Night 2)
« Reply #972 on: October 28, 2015, 07:28:10 pm »

Vote Count 3.0

Not Voting (7): Roadrunner7671, gkrieg13, Haddock, Awaclus, Hydrad, Ichimaru Gin, Chairs

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

D3 ends at Tuesday 11/4 at 7 pm forum time.
« Last Edit: October 28, 2015, 07:33:03 pm by Twistedarcher »
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 3)
« Reply #973 on: October 28, 2015, 07:32:05 pm »

Okay, time to beg for my life.

I am sorry, everyone. I let you all down. Whatever you do to me I probably deserve, even though I am 100% a VT.

If you are too blind to see that, I don't blame you.
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 3)
« Reply #974 on: October 28, 2015, 07:36:08 pm »

Now just to look at interactions.
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