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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #800 on: October 24, 2015, 02:22:11 pm »

There is this switch thing, and 2 Mafia alive.  SK dead means they can neutralize whatever PRs we have left every night.
The SK is going to murder Awalcus. And Awalcus is town, he told me.
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #801 on: October 24, 2015, 02:22:16 pm »

I had a similar thing happen to me as SK; because of interactions (and fake claims by Awaclus~)

Hey, it still was an investigative result on you confirming you as not town. I only fake claimed the part where I got it with my own role.

No, you claimed I was Mafia, and I wasn't.
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #802 on: October 24, 2015, 02:24:09 pm »

Hitting Mafia today is probably better than hitting SK, though Yuma may likely just shoot Awaclus which is probably bad.
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #803 on: October 24, 2015, 02:27:46 pm »

Yuma want to claim who you shot last night?
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #804 on: October 24, 2015, 02:28:51 pm »

Hitting Mafia today is probably better than hitting SK, though Yuma may likely just shoot Awaclus which is probably bad.
Hitting Mafia is better than hitting SK. However,

1. Yuma knows this, he is Mafia and claimed SK to save his skin for one day.

2. Hitting SK is better than not hitting SK, and the town would be divided between you and Haddock.

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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #805 on: October 24, 2015, 02:30:06 pm »

Hitting Mafia today is probably better than hitting SK, though Yuma may likely just shoot Awaclus which is probably bad.
Hitting Mafia is better than hitting SK. However,

1. Yuma knows this, he is Mafia and claimed SK to save his skin for one day.

2. Hitting SK is better than not hitting SK, and the town would be divided between you and Haddock.

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True; we should still think it through, though, and reread under an assumption that Yuma is not Mafia. 

My guess is Ichi/Haddock. 
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #806 on: October 24, 2015, 02:30:46 pm »

Well, maybe Hydrad.  Is he even here?
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #807 on: October 24, 2015, 02:31:35 pm »

Well, maybe Hydrad.  Is he even here?
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #808 on: October 24, 2015, 02:35:33 pm »

Whoa k. I stepped out for a bit after I unvoted. What's going on?
Yuma's at L-1 again?

Yeah, I don't think it's traditional for scum to get last requests. I could also see him lying on this.

I'm getting all the bad feels from WW as well now--seems like a grab for town points. I'm not not going to lynch claimed scum. Plus, if Mafia want to make a kill, they can only block one PR.

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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #809 on: October 24, 2015, 02:38:23 pm »

How could this possibly be a grab for town points?
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #810 on: October 24, 2015, 02:39:58 pm »

Yeah I may just hammer yuma to put a stop this nonsense.
SK has greater potential to block town PR's than scum ya know.

We have scum (either SK or lying Mafia--or crazy outside chance of town not playing to their wincon?) on a silver platter right now.
Don't act as if it's a choice between lynching SK and Mafia. We have no guarantee whatever other person we lynch today besides yuma will be Mafia.

PPE: It feels like you're acting townie, but what you're positing isn't actually in town's best interest.

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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #811 on: October 24, 2015, 02:42:36 pm »

I don't see Yuma lying here.  Unless he's Mafia and telly thinks he can direct us towards a mislynch.  But I believe him just based on tone.

I didn't know Mafia couldn't switch and kill, so that's not so bad.
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #812 on: October 24, 2015, 02:44:54 pm »

I think not ending the day is in town's best interest, no question.  It may be the case that lynching Yuma is the right thing to do.

But think of it this way, it lets us take out one person from an already small pool for Mafia.
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #813 on: October 24, 2015, 02:45:44 pm »

Damn it. The forum's hanging for me again.

Yeah, scratch you making a grab for town points. It's more just trying to lead the game. Assuming yuma is the SK though, there are still the two mafia left. I'm not sure who WW's partner would be...
I don't think it's a foregone conclusion you're scum at this point, but I've had a scumread on you for most of this game. I didn't push it too hard though, because I wanted to continue observing your play.

PPE: this sounds more reasonable. I feel like you normally pay much more attention to the setup though. The voices are telling me this is a faked townslip.
PPE: I'll wait to hammer yuma. I still think he is and should be today's lynch, but we do have time.

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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #814 on: October 24, 2015, 02:47:02 pm »

Plus assuming Yuma is not Mafia, they never no issues lynching him pre-claim.  As far as they know it's a town lynch.  So wagon could be informative as well.
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #815 on: October 24, 2015, 02:52:41 pm »

Even if it was a grab for town points, I don't see how that makes him scum. I grab for town points as town all the time.
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #816 on: October 24, 2015, 02:55:17 pm »

Maybe we should let yuma kill you.

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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #817 on: October 24, 2015, 02:55:42 pm »

Plus assuming Yuma is not Mafia, they never no issues lynching him pre-claim.  As far as they know it's a town lynch.  So wagon could be informative as well.
Also, I don't understand this.

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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #818 on: October 24, 2015, 02:58:16 pm »

Phone posting, autocorrect problem.

I mean scum would get on the Yuma wagon as they would a normal mislynch.  Honestly I found your vote suspicious (before he claimed), so that wont really appeal to you, but maybe I'm wrong.
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #819 on: October 24, 2015, 03:05:59 pm »

Phone posting, autocorrect problem.

I mean scum would get on the Yuma wagon as they would a normal mislynch.  Honestly I found your vote suspicious (before he claimed), so that wont really appeal to you, but maybe I'm wrong.
Ah. I see what you mean. No, I think that makes sense. I mean, they're happy to lynch any non-Mafia person. Suspect me all you want.

I felt very wishy-washy about yuma, til I really thought hard about what he had done this game and how he had reacted to things. Of course, I was right that he's scum--but you'd ignore that. Ya know, did you ever consider I just read him correctly?

If we aren't lynching yuma today, I think I want to lynch you.

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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #820 on: October 24, 2015, 03:17:09 pm »

Phone posting, autocorrect problem.

I mean scum would get on the Yuma wagon as they would a normal mislynch.  Honestly I found your vote suspicious (before he claimed), so that wont really appeal to you, but maybe I'm wrong.
Ah. I see what you mean. No, I think that makes sense. I mean, they're happy to lynch any non-Mafia person. Suspect me all you want.

I felt very wishy-washy about yuma, til I really thought hard about what he had done this game and how he had reacted to things. Of course, I was right that he's scum--but you'd ignore that. Ya know, did you ever consider I just read him correctly?

If we aren't lynching yuma today, I think I want to lynch you.

You're being inconsistent as to whether or not you're accepting the premise that lynching SK does not equate to town points.

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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #821 on: October 24, 2015, 03:32:31 pm »

Thing is we're both PoE'd so even if you're town it makes sense we'd expect each other.  For me it's {Hydrad, Ichi, Haddock} and for (town) you it's {Hydrad, me, Haddock}.  Yuma being out of that set is a big boon, 2 in 3 instead of 2 in 4.  (Plus not having to worry about the SK, which could have been any of the unlikely-bussing-Ash-wagoners {Jimmm, Chairs, Awaclus, Gkrieg}.)

Without the blocking issue, lynching Yuma is more okay, but regardless we have a lot of information now. 
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #822 on: October 24, 2015, 04:03:42 pm »

Phone posting, autocorrect problem.

I mean scum would get on the Yuma wagon as they would a normal mislynch.  Honestly I found your vote suspicious (before he claimed), so that wont really appeal to you, but maybe I'm wrong.
Ah. I see what you mean. No, I think that makes sense. I mean, they're happy to lynch any non-Mafia person. Suspect me all you want.

I felt very wishy-washy about yuma, til I really thought hard about what he had done this game and how he had reacted to things. Of course, I was right that he's scum--but you'd ignore that. Ya know, did you ever consider I just read him correctly?

If we aren't lynching yuma today, I think I want to lynch you.

You're being inconsistent as to whether or not you're accepting the premise that lynching SK does not equate to town points.
I kind of understand this statement. Ah, that's because me wanting to lynch you equates to not lynching yuma today--and you could be town. I think I get it.

If you are Mafia and Awaclus isn't your partner, not lynching yuma basically gets you an extra townie dead for free: lynch town today, SK kills Awaclus, Mafia NKs town, then you lynch the SK the next day. That would also mean you'd have to manage to keep yourself and your partner from getting lynched I guess; maybe Haddock is the mislynch you want today.

Yeah. Is Hydrad VLA? Cause his absence is raising my heckles a bit.

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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #823 on: October 24, 2015, 04:13:40 pm »

Yeah. So please tell me the town narrative for not lynching yuma today, cause I don't see it.
Do you think Awaclus is scum?

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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #824 on: October 24, 2015, 04:16:34 pm »

Six people scum watching. Something gonna say something?
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