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[silverspawn]

Like I said, if faust wants me to respond to something specific, I am happy to do so. But I am not going to quote post walls of text because if I do that I won't keep playing at the end.

I mean, I have heard the excuse of "I don't want to respond because it'd be walls of text" exactly once, which was in my one and only offsite game, and I thought it was incredibly stupid. Like, wtf.

faust did address points, maybe 3 or so, and nothing stops you from addressing them. why does it matter if the post is long or short.

that said, I know that sometimes your mind can draw illogical associations with stuff that make things unpleasant even if there's no rational reason for it... so eh. Like I said, it doesn't really make you scummy anyway.

back to my lynch pool.

let's just do vote: gkrieg. if I'm not lynching faust, I might aswell sheep him.

[Roadrunner7671]

well, even though I'm still fearful of faust as always and that stuff I'm pretty sure I don't want to vote for him day 1.

That makes my current vote pool something like {Witherweaver, ashersky, gkrieg13, Awaclus, Ichimaru Gin, Jimmmmm, Chairs}

What am I, chopped liver?

 

I excluded about half of the playerbase. Are you trying to argue that you should be in the scummier half?

No, I am wondering why you excluded me.
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[Ichimaru Gin]

liver can't kill people--especially when it's been chopped into delicious little chunks.

[Roadrunner7671]

liver can't kill people--especially when it's been chopped into delicious little chunks.

Fair point.

[silverspawn]

No, I am wondering why you excluded me.

I mean, if you're really scum and you purposefully faked all the confusion / noobiness, then wow, amazingly well played.

If you're scum and didn't fake the confusion, then wtf did your scum buddies do?

The most likely explanation seems to be that they purposefully didn't tell you anything. that would be a cool strat.

but Occam's Razor says you're town. You're actually one of my strongest reads.

[silverspawn]

then again, gkrieg was so incredibly scummy in the game I modded that I almost feel this game isn't scummy enough to be scum.

[Ichimaru Gin]

then again, gkrieg was so incredibly scummy in the game I modded that I almost feel this game isn't scummy enough to be scum.

Was he in fact scum that game?

[Roadrunner7671]

No, I am wondering why you excluded me.

I mean, if you're really scum and you purposefully faked all the confusion / noobiness, then wow, amazingly well played.

If you're scum and didn't fake the confusion, then wtf did your scum buddies do?

The most likely explanation seems to be that they purposefully didn't tell you anything. that would be a cool strat.

but Occam's Razor says you're town. You're actually one of my strongest reads.

Occam's Razor?

[silverspawn]

No, I am wondering why you excluded me.

I mean, if you're really scum and you purposefully faked all the confusion / noobiness, then wow, amazingly well played.

If you're scum and didn't fake the confusion, then wtf did your scum buddies do?

The most likely explanation seems to be that they purposefully didn't tell you anything. that would be a cool strat.

but Occam's Razor says you're town. You're actually one of my strongest reads.

Occam's Razor?

or more relevant: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

Among competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected.

[silverspawn]

A self-evident but very relevant principle, in and outside mafia.

[Roadrunner7671]

A self-evident but very relevant principle, in and outside mafia.

Okay. Then why is chairs still voting for me?

[faust]

Like I said, if faust wants me to respond to something specific, I am happy to do so. But I am not going to quote post walls of text because if I do that I won't keep playing at the end.

No, you don't need to respond. People are apparently seeing that your case is bad, so there's no need to argue about it further.

I am wondering though, if you're town, do you not want to convince people? You should not answer the post for me, but for the other players in the game, who in your opinion need to be convinced to vote for me.

[gkrieg13]

then again, gkrieg was so incredibly scummy in the game I modded that I almost feel this game isn't scummy enough to be scum.

I don't think I follow...  Am I scummy this game or not?

[Roadrunner7671]

then again, gkrieg was so incredibly scummy in the game I modded that I almost feel this game isn't scummy enough to be scum.

I don't think I follow...  Am I scummy this game or not?

Well, you have a lot of votes for you...

[yuma]

If people have questions then they can ask. I feel that what I put out has merit. If others can't see that... well... I honestly don't know how to convince people any more. The case on HTSNBN last game was pretty clear cut, but people refused to listen because I apparently diluted that with talking too much or something, so let's try this method and see if it works...

[gkrieg13]

If people have questions then they can ask. I feel that what I put out has merit. If others can't see that... well... I honestly don't know how to convince people any more. The case on HTSNBN last game was pretty clear cut, but people refused to listen because I apparently diluted that with talking too much or something, so let's try this method and see if it works...

I think your case didn't work only because the two ICs were telling you you were wrong. I don't think it was dilution at all. I thought you had a great case so I had to make sure people discounted it.

[silverspawn]

then again, gkrieg was so incredibly scummy in the game I modded that I almost feel this game isn't scummy enough to be scum.

I don't think I follow...  Am I scummy this game or not?

you are scummy, just not as scummy as in fanfiction mafia.

[Roadrunner7671]

Are we seriously thinking about lynching gkreig?

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[silverspawn]

Are we seriously thinking about lynching gkreig?

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I don't know, are we? I am.

[faust]

If people have questions then they can ask. I feel that what I put out has merit. If others can't see that... well... I honestly don't know how to convince people any more. The case on HTSNBN last game was pretty clear cut, but people refused to listen because I apparently diluted that with talking too much or something, so let's try this method and see if it works...

Well, to be fair, a lot of people were also suspecting Awaclus in that game... for me personally, at some point I felt like you were just too emotionally invested and thus biased and thus I didn't listen to the case. Plus starting D3 you were very suspcious yourself due to the derphammer. Plus you didn't know Awaclus meta yet - at least for me that was something that made me take you less seriously (sorry about that).

I guess what I'm trying to say is I don't think you're unable to convince people. It was a very specific situation then and now it's very different.

Why am I encouraging you to push a case against me again?

[faust]

then again, gkrieg was so incredibly scummy in the game I modded that I almost feel this game isn't scummy enough to be scum.

I don't think I follow...  Am I scummy this game or not?

you are scummy, just not as scummy as in fanfiction mafia.

Seeing things from a mod's perspective is much different though. It's always easier to find people scummy when you know they're scum.

[faust]

Are we seriously thinking about lynching gkreig?

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Should we not?

[Roadrunner7671]

Are we seriously thinking about lynching gkreig?

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Should we not?

I don't really think he is.

[faust]

Are we seriously thinking about lynching gkreig?

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Should we not?

I don't really think he is.

That's not the impression I got from reading this:

Gkreig13: I could hop on his wagon. There is a lot of evidence against him, but I don't really want to anger him just in case he is scum. We'll say slightly scummy for this guy.

[Roadrunner7671]

Are we seriously thinking about lynching gkreig?

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Should we not?

I don't really think he is.

That's not the impression I got from reading this:

Gkreig13: I could hop on his wagon. There is a lot of evidence against him, but I don't really want to anger him just in case he is scum. We'll say slightly scummy for this guy.

I didn't post that!

In all seriousness, I said 'slightly' scummy. I'm not sure 'slightly' is enough to convict him.

On the other hand, if I defend him and he is scum, people will think I'm scum!

I think I've dug myself into a hole because of my big mouth.