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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #325 on: October 16, 2015, 03:27:00 pm »

This conversation has slipped away from me again. I'm not going to vote until real evidence is presented.

you're never going to vote until a cop has a guilty result on someone?
I didn't say proof, I said evidence.
and now you taught me something about the English language!

That said, I doubt that a day-1 lynch will likely be more than, mh, maybe 1,3 times as likely to hit scum as a random lynch?
My statement still stands for now. Vote: no vote.

it's vote: nolynch but I don't think that's a good idea for day 1

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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #326 on: October 16, 2015, 03:31:04 pm »

This conversation has slipped away from me again. I'm not going to vote until real evidence is presented.

you're never going to vote until a cop has a guilty result on someone?
I didn't say proof, I said evidence.
and now you taught me something about the English language!

That said, I doubt that a day-1 lynch will likely be more than, mh, maybe 1,3 times as likely to hit scum as a random lynch?
My statement still stands for now. Vote: no vote.

it's vote: nolynch but I don't think that's a good idea for day 1
Lol thanks. I will, however, listen to you. Why isn't this a good idea?
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #327 on: October 16, 2015, 03:43:15 pm »

Lol thanks. I will, however, listen to you. Why isn't this a good idea?

well, town's only way to win is to lynch. each lynch, be it on town or on scum, comes with a death of town during the night. You can consider a Nightkill to be a lynch with 0% chance of hitting scum. So, even if your day 1 lynch has 25% chance to hit scum but your day 2 lynch 35%, you'd still get

(0%, 35%, 0%) rather than (25%, 0%) due to no-lynching day 1

at the start of your next day. The latter is preferable.

the other answer is that lynching on day 1 generates information for day 2 which increases the chances for a successful lynch there. It doesn't just magically get better, it gets better because you lynched day 1.

No-lynching day 1 is generally considered to be awful. An exception would only be made for setup reasons.

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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #328 on: October 16, 2015, 03:44:17 pm »

Lol thanks. I will, however, listen to you. Why isn't this a good idea?

well, town's only way to win is to lynch. each lynch, be it on town or on scum, comes with a death of town during the night. You can consider a Nightkill to be a lynch with 0% chance of hitting scum. So, even if your day 1 lynch has 25% chance to hit scum but your day 2 lynch 35%, you'd still get

(0%, 35%, 0%) rather than (25%, 0%) due to no-lynching day 1

at the start of your next day. The latter is preferable.

the other answer is that lynching on day 1 generates information for day 2 which increases the chances for a successful lynch there. It doesn't just magically get better, it gets better because you lynched day 1.

No-lynching day 1 is generally considered to be awful. An exception would only be made for setup reasons.
That makes a lot of sense to me. Thanks!
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #329 on: October 16, 2015, 03:44:35 pm »

Vote: ashersky
Oops   ::)
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #330 on: October 16, 2015, 06:02:33 pm »

I could vote for faust... people have said they agreed with me about jimmmm but no actual love there... sad face

vote: faust for being a hipster and for posting a reads list (which I felt was out of character as others have said) and then not using said reads list when voting for gkrieg. Shows that the reads list was just a piece of fluff and basically made up. You know who else makes stuff up?

Obviously, by yuma's standards, once one has posted a reads list, one is not allowed to change his reads for the rest of the game.
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #331 on: October 16, 2015, 06:02:56 pm »

Hmm. This is my last thought before sleep, but I reckon ill switch to vote: hydrad overnight. He's still not really contributed.
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #332 on: October 16, 2015, 06:06:16 pm »

So 4 people are voting for me, 2 still from RVS and two because I posted reads. Surely we can do better than that? But I think we need to focus more on the people who have just not contributed.
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #333 on: October 16, 2015, 06:08:24 pm »

RR seems to know what OMGUS is, anyway.
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #334 on: October 16, 2015, 06:08:39 pm »

Prod requests on gkrieg and Hydrad
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #335 on: October 16, 2015, 06:11:32 pm »

RR seems to know what OMGUS is, anyway.
I googled it.
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #336 on: October 16, 2015, 06:12:31 pm »

I'm here! sorry!

Unvote: faust though
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #337 on: October 16, 2015, 06:13:15 pm »

Roadrunner seems town to me! I know I couldn't fake acting like this so that means its impossible for everyone and hes now confirmed town. ez
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #338 on: October 16, 2015, 06:14:23 pm »

Vote: ashersky

if I can't read him may as well kill him.
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #339 on: October 16, 2015, 06:15:35 pm »

Vote: ashersky

if I can't read him may as well kill him.

You're not allowed to say this and not vote Awaclus.
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #340 on: October 16, 2015, 06:21:21 pm »

Vote: ashersky

if I can't read him may as well kill him.

You're not allowed to say this and not vote Awaclus.

thats a good point... but awaclus has no votes on him yet.

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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #341 on: October 16, 2015, 06:45:39 pm »

Prod requests on gkrieg and Hydrad
Had no idea it had been that long since I'd posted. Had lots of midterms this week so I've just been skimming. It seems like most of the discussion has been around the new guys. Yuma seems town to me. Faust still seems scummy. Has seems different but maybe not in a scummy way?  I don't like the votes on ash so far
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #342 on: October 16, 2015, 06:46:59 pm »

Roadrunner seems town to me! I know I couldn't fake acting like this so that means its impossible for everyone and hes now confirmed town. ez
Thanks!
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #343 on: October 16, 2015, 06:52:59 pm »

I think one of the new guys is scum but I don't want to lunch them today
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #344 on: October 16, 2015, 06:54:38 pm »

I think one of the new guys is scum but I don't want to lunch them today
*insert joke about lunch*

Why do you think we're scum?
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #345 on: October 16, 2015, 06:56:41 pm »

I think one of the new guys is scum but I don't want to lunch them today

As you say, Scummy McScum.
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #346 on: October 16, 2015, 06:58:28 pm »

I could vote for faust... people have said they agreed with me about jimmmm but no actual love there... sad face

vote: faust for being a hipster and for posting a reads list (which I felt was out of character as others have said) and then not using said reads list when voting for gkrieg. Shows that the reads list was just a piece of fluff and basically made up. You know who else makes stuff up?

Obviously, by yuma's standards, once one has posted a reads list, one is not allowed to change his reads for the rest of the game.

that isn't what I said
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #347 on: October 16, 2015, 06:59:58 pm »

I think one of the new guys is scum but I don't want to lunch them today

As you say, Scummy McScum.
First thing you've said all game that I agree with.
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #348 on: October 16, 2015, 07:18:40 pm »

I think one of the new guys is scum but I don't want to lunch them today

As you say, Scummy McScum.
First thing you've said all game that I agree with.

So you didn't agree with me saying you're town? Interesting.
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Re: M70: Switch Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #349 on: October 16, 2015, 07:42:17 pm »

I think one of the new guys is scum but I don't want to lunch them today

As you say, Scummy McScum.
First thing you've said all game that I agree with.

So you didn't agree with me saying you're town? Interesting.
Didn't I claim to be a VT? Can you lie in a claim? What if I make it bold?
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