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[Ichimaru Gin]

phon post. I'm super busy today and tomorrow. have more time Friday. And Awaclus comes out of the gate swinging.

I can also guarantee he is absolutely wrong because I know my own alignment. Only one kill last night is great though. theres no way we could win if scum had killed two town last night.

[Haddock]

theres no way we could win if scum had killed two town last night.

As Awa said, there was technically a way we could have won in that scenario, but it was fairly unlikely.  So this is as good as it gets right now.

Obviously people can "guarantee" things, but there's no such thing as proof right now, no matter what RR says.  Without cop results we're relying pretty much entirely on reads.

[Ichimaru Gin]

Uh how? I if people don't play to their wincon or we lynch town today and scum NK each other?

[Haddock]

Uh how? I if people don't play to their wincon or we lynch town today and scum NK each other?

Or no lynch and scum NK each other. like i said, unlikely, but technically possible. Moot point now anyway.

[Ichimaru Gin]

I don't think you're scum. I think chairs is scum, probably the SK.

[Roadrunner7671]

I'm inclined to believe that RR is the last mafia and IG is the SK.

I can guarantee that that's incorrect.

Can you prove it?

Yep.

Then do.

I didn't say I could prove it before I flipped.

[Haddock]

I don't think you're scum. I think chairs is scum, probably the SK.

This is good to know.  I have a mild town read on you as well, mostly gut.  But we had two confirmed townies who thought you were scummy before they flipped, so if nothing better comes up I may have to vote for you eventually.  We need to lynch someone today (otherwise I think there's only a 25% chance that town is still in a winnable position tomorrow).

My biggest scumfeel is RR, as it has been for a while, I'd certainly rather lynch him than you.  Not based on much though; really I need to reread everyone, I'll get to that at some point.

[Roadrunner7671]

If you lynch me you will be very, very sorry.

[Awaclus]

If you lynch me you will be very, very sorry.

Then you should try to prevent that from happening.

[Roadrunner7671]

If you lynch me you will be very, very sorry.

Then you should try to prevent that from happening.

I have been doing that the whole game.

[Awaclus]

If you lynch me you will be very, very sorry.

Then you should try to prevent that from happening.

I have been doing that the whole game.

You haven't given me a single reason why I shouldn't want to lynch you.

[Roadrunner7671]

Post removed for rule violation. - TA

[Awaclus]

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I super don't care about any of that. You should point out some posts of yours that show beyond doubt that you had the information a townie has and the win con a townie has in mind while writing that post. If you can't, there's no reason to believe that you are town.

[Awaclus]

Also, even if you are a townie, lynching you definitely isn't going to cause town to lose. If we lynch a townie, we enter the night with 2 townies, 1 SK and 1 Mafia. I think the scum actually want to target each other here, but even if they shoot randomly, it is more likely than not (~56%) that at least one of them gets killed by the other. Then it's just a regular 2v1 situation, which is still pretty winnable.

[Awaclus]

On the other hand, if you are scum, lynching you is definitely going to cause your faction to lose.

[Roadrunner7671]

At this point there isn't anything I can say to change Awaclus's opinion. I don't know how to cross-quote.

I have acceptes my fate, even though I am a Vanilla Townie.

[Awaclus]

At this point there isn't anything I can say to change Awaclus's opinion.

Well, if that is true, then it must be true only because you're scum. If you are town, you should have posts where you exhibit a thought process that townies have and scummies don't, and you should be able to point them out too.

[Roadrunner7671]

At this point there isn't anything I can say to change Awaclus's opinion.

Well, if that is true, then it must be true only because you're scum. If you are town, you should have posts where you exhibit a thought process that townies have and scummies don't, and you should be able to point them out too.

I am a new Mafia player. How do I know how scum thinks?

[Awaclus]

I am a new Mafia player. How do I know how scum thinks?

Scum thinks by knowing that they are scum and wanting to win through the scum win condition.

[Roadrunner7671]

I am a new Mafia player. How do I know how scum thinks?

Scum thinks by knowing that they are scum and wanting to win through the scum win condition.

A typical Awalcus answer.

I'm gonna wait and see what other people say, I know Haddock wants to kill my cause I'm annoying, then a scum will probably jump on that wagon. This is bad.

[Haddock]

At this point there isn't anything I can say to change Awaclus's opinion.

Well, if that is true, then it must be true only because you're scum. If you are town, you should have posts where you exhibit a thought process that townies have and scummies don't, and you should be able to point them out too.

I am a new Mafia player. How do I know how scum thinks?

Well, as you keep pointing out, you're not really that new to Mafia any more. This is your first game, yes, but it's also arguably your third game or something. (Since you've now finished two other games).

[Roadrunner7671]

At this point there isn't anything I can say to change Awaclus's opinion.

Well, if that is true, then it must be true only because you're scum. If you are town, you should have posts where you exhibit a thought process that townies have and scummies don't, and you should be able to point them out too.

I am a new Mafia player. How do I know how scum thinks?

Well, as you keep pointing out, you're not really that new to Mafia any more. This is your first game, yes, but it's also arguably your third game or something. (Since you've now finished two other games).

You can't talk about other games.

It looks like you're gonna kill me too.
Cue a long, drawn out sigh.

[Ichimaru Gin]

Ok. Here for a bit. Pretty busy day.

You can talk about games that are officially over. You can't mention any ongoing games. I'm not sure if any of the games mentioned were ongoing, if none are, it's alright.

I feel like RR's fatalism is kinda townie. My bet is scum is Awaclus and chairs.

Maybe everyone should post the two people they think are scum and/or which scum they think they are.

[Roadrunner7671]

I agree with Chairs, but everyone else is a candidate for now.

I'm sleeping now, in the morning I will probably be at L-1.

[Haddock]

You can't talk about other games.

You can talk about games that are officially over. You can't mention any ongoing games. I'm not sure if any of the games mentioned were ongoing, if none are, it's alright.

Sorry about that, yeah.  I assumed that since RR had been referencing them that they must be over and therefore fair game.  No more mention of that then.

I'm sleeping now, in the morning I will probably be at L-1.

Noone's even voting for you right now!  This is such a weird thing to say.  You know I find you scummy, sure, but for what it's worth I think Awa talking to you is more just Awa playing devil's advocate, like he does.  And neither he nor I are voting for you right now, so stop panicking. 

Maybe everyone should post the two people they think are scum and/or which scum they think they are.

I'm up for this, but like I said I want to reread everyone first.  Will do that tonight.