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Mario Maker
« on: September 13, 2015, 04:55:40 pm »
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Here's a compilation of f.DS member profile pages on the Super Mario Maker Bookmark site.

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With these, a collection of individual level codes is less necessary, but the original modified original post is below:

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[b]F.DS Levels:[/b]

[quote author=scott_pilgrim]
I don't know how much you guys like throwing things at your TV, but in case it's a lot, I made some levels for you:

Wall Jumps: E1C9-0000-007A-CC92
Spinning Saws: B603-0000-007A-CDB9

This one is just a silly idea I had, if you didn't like those two because they were unreasonably hard, you still might like this one:

Race the Spiny: B87F-0000-007A-CFC4[/quote]

[quote author=Tables]
Okay, Goomba Lair: F7F9-0000-0069-35B0. It's my first course, uses nothing but the intial set of items, and any feedback would be nice (provided it isn't Joseph2302 saying "it sucks" and nothing else)

After looking at the feedback people have given, I've updated Goomba Lair. New code is 246F-0000-0069-C928

Why did I even do this? It was an idea I had before the game even came out, and wanted to try and make it work. I kinda succeeded. Sadly Bowser doesn't move quite like I'd hoped, so some bits can be frustrating because of AI.

Bowser Escort Mission: 4C57-0000-0081-CBAE

Bullet Bill Blaster Surprise: 1918-0000-00A3-FB92

What's inside the Bullet Bill Blaster? I can't wait to find out! Unless it's Magikoopas. Then I'm happy to wait to find out. This course is similar in style to my first course (Goomba Lair), with a single main theme being explored (hey what can I do with Bullet Bill Blasters), but hopefully a few interesting secrets, challenges and the like.

I got the itch just now to make something. Two or three hours later and we have Bowser Jr's Mole Armada: 3D8D-0000-00C9-F3C8

I expect this will be fairly easy for most people here (I've aimed for easier difficulty than my last two levels), although there's a few places you might get hit or fall, so you could still die if you're not careful.
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[quote author=LastFootnote]
[b]Super Spinies:[/b] 8F29-0000-0040-2DD1

My goal was to make a level that you might see in a Mario game. The theme is giant Spinies. There are secrets to be found; some are obvious and some are less obvious. Feedback is very welcome!

Chomp Caverns: B929-0000-0058-B6EF

Another traditional-style Mario level. Medium-Hard difficulty. Lots of goodies to find!

Flying Fish: DEAC-0000-006E-8BBE

It's a athletic-style level with a slow autoscroll. The primary theme is Cheep Cheeps with wings. Cheep Cheeps don't interact with much in Mario Maker—you can't make something ride around on them, for instance—so it was tough thinking of interesting things to do. Anyway, I think the result is worth a play or two. There's a choice between the low road (through a short underwater sub-area) and the high road (bouncing off Cheep Cheeps) near the middle of the stage.
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[quote author="Drab Emordnilap"]"Careful Coin Collection" -- This is a fairly short, kinda puzzly level.
718E-0000-0016-D06C

"Platform Gauntlet (Find 3 1ups)" -- This one is more ambitious. The general theme involves riding slow-moving platforms and dealing with enemies/danger without falling off.
54F2-0000-0031-E70A

"Don't Lose That Cannon!" -- This one's pretty long. I'm a sucker for gimmicks in level design. You'll see. Just don't lose that cannon! He is your only friend.
8C79-0000-0040-66AA

[s]"Don't Lose That Cannon!" v1.2 -- Now with checkpoints!
A8A0-0000-00AA-CF20[/s]

Don't Lose That Cannon! v1.3
E517-0000-0109-0CA1

Your Eternal Reward
2828-0000-004D-F565
It's... not as friendly as I envisioned it. But it is what it is.

Waluigi's Eternal Reward
976D-0000-006C-B970
It's better now.

New level. "Lemmings". I think you can guess the idea.
B733-0000-0079-182E

Lemmings v1.2
ED2D-0000-007E-2141

[s]All is not as it seems...
7762-0000-0094-898C
Block Glitch Level

Memory Maze
EE7B-0000-0097-586F
Everyone likes mazes, right? I hope you have a good memory...[/s]

Haunted Sewer
2E08-0000-00B7-EE85
Pipes and Boos. Checkpoints.

Half-Minute Hero
F6F3-0000-00E6-62B8
There's no way you can beat this level in 30 seconds. But maybe you can make some progress?

Half-Baked Hero
6F08-0000-00F7-F67B
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[b]ORIGINAL POST BELOW:[/b]

So Mario Maker finally released Friday, and my whole weekend has basically been playing around with it. My one big gripe is how popular "non-levels" are in the Course World -- almost every top level is either a roller coaster where you win by pressing no buttons, ascii art, a collection of one of every powerup, or just complete chaos. It's harder than I'd like to find playable, "Mario style" levels.

At least you can share level codes with people, though. I've finished two levels so far, if anyone wants to give them a try.

"Careful Coin Collection" -- This is a fairly short, kinda puzzly level.
718E-0000-0016-D06C

"Platform Gauntlet (Find 3 1ups)" -- This one is more ambitious. The general theme involves riding slow-moving platforms and dealing with enemies/danger without falling off.
54F2-0000-0031-E70A


If anyone else has made any levels, I'd love to play them also!
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Re: Mario Maker
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2015, 05:57:33 pm »
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The quality of levels created by others is the one thing holding me back from buying the game. It reviewed extremely well and looks super fun from what I'd seen on Youtube, but that was what reviewers/letsplayers were making being played. Now it's everyone, and I was worried in advance the quality would be poor. From what I've heard, it seems my fears have come true, so I'll really have to wait and see if anything improves.
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Re: Mario Maker
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2015, 06:08:22 pm »
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The quality of levels created by others is the one thing holding me back from buying the game. It reviewed extremely well and looks super fun from what I'd seen on Youtube, but that was what reviewers/letsplayers were making being played. Now it's everyone, and I was worried in advance the quality would be poor. From what I've heard, it seems my fears have come true, so I'll really have to wait and see if anything improves.

When playing the Challenge mode where the game gives you random levels uploaded by other users to beat, most of the levels have been decent to good. I'm not sure what algorithms they use to pull those levels, but they seem alright. The problems I have seem to be mostly with the "Featured Levels" section. 
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Re: Mario Maker
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2015, 06:54:40 pm »
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I tried a level where I told it to look at Expert levels, and the one I played was pretty good (and hard).  That might help you find good levels.
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« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2015, 07:01:48 pm »
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I had this same fear and the same disappointment.

Anyway, I plan to build "Mario-like" levels, although I'm a day behind on content "delivery". I will definitely try yours tonight, Drab Emordnilap.
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Re: Mario Maker
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2015, 03:29:23 am »
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You can put chain chomps in clown cars.  I just think everyone should take that into consideration when deciding whether to purchase this game.
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Re: Mario Maker
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2015, 03:30:36 am »
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You can put chain chomps in clown cars.  I just think everyone should take that into consideration when deciding whether to purchase this game.

You can put ANYTHING in clown cars. It's amazing.
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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2015, 06:58:27 am »
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I don't play video games, but this does look fun. I think as time goes on, there will be a way for people to find out what the best levels to play are. The game is fairly new. I am guessing some discussion forum or something will pop up somewhere praising certain levels or certain level makers. Honestly though, the game looks awesome.
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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2015, 11:18:19 am »
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Go play Super Mario World rom hacks instead ^_^
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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2015, 12:20:09 pm »
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Go play Super Mario World rom hacks instead ^_^

Because none of those are unfun, oh no. :p
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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2015, 01:43:34 pm »
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Most of them are unfun, but some of them are really good.

It's really interesting to experience a difficulty level that's unavailable in published games.  Not Kaizo Mario, that's just bad, but there are a few good rom hacks that are about as difficult as the hardest SMW levels but the whole way through which is unique.

And you definitely don't run into automatic levels hardly at all.  Everyone knows no one will download your ROM if it's automatic levels. 
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Re: Mario Maker
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2015, 02:42:23 pm »
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I had this same fear and the same disappointment.

Anyway, I plan to build "Mario-like" levels, although I'm a day behind on content "delivery". I will definitely try yours tonight, Drab Emordnilap.
If you're impatient, fill up a level with blocks a few times, then go into play and back into edit. Early delivery!

I know a 6-year-old and a 7-year-old who have uploaded multiple levels. The 6-year-old's are often mostly empty, and someone out there must try them. And they star anything easy. I suspect though that you can just bypass all of that by not playing Easy levels.

OTOH when I played 100 Mario Challenge on Easy, it wasn't empty levels. It wasn't like, I want to endlessly do this to unlock costumes, but it was okay for unlocking a few costumes so I had some.
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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2015, 03:35:00 pm »
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OTOH when I played 100 Mario Challenge on Easy, it wasn't empty levels. It wasn't like, I want to endlessly do this to unlock costumes, but it was okay for unlocking a few costumes so I had some.

I'm enjoying the Normal level of difficulty for the 100 Mario Challenge. For each batch of 16 levels, I star about 4 of them.

One problem is that the game itself subtly pushes you into making short, gimmicky levels rather than longer, robust levels. There are no checkpoints, that's the biggest thing. The game is filled with small disappointments, though. There's no way to do the standard Mario thing where if you're small Mario, a block contains a mushroom, but it contains something else if you're big Mario. If you put a mushroom in a block, it's always a mushroom, and ditto with the other power-ups. You can go backwards in SMB1 levels. A lot of little stuff like that which adds up. There is a lot of neat stuff you can do, though. I will eventually get used to all the little changes.

Once I finally unlock invisible blocks, I will probably publish my first level. Any decent Mario level has invisible blocks.
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« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2015, 03:37:37 pm »
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I will definitely try yours tonight, Drab Emordnilap.

I did try them! Careful Coin Collection is more of a level snippet, but I did enjoy it. Platform Gauntlet was also fun. I enjoyed herding Dry Bones onto the platform that I wouldn't be on once they split. 2 out of 2 stars.
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« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2015, 04:53:43 pm »
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I did try them! Careful Coin Collection is more of a level snippet, but I did enjoy it. Platform Gauntlet was also fun. I enjoyed herding Dry Bones onto the platform that I wouldn't be on once they split. 2 out of 2 stars.

Originally Careful Coin Collection was going to be more robust; I was going to have the items drop on opposite ends of the level. The problem I ran into is, if you go too far away from any item or enemy, it'll respawn in its original location, so to get the mechanism to work, it all had to fit on a single screen.

And please, post your levels too; I was hoping I could come to this thread and see other f.ds'ers creations to enjoy/hate myself over. :)
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« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2015, 05:03:17 pm »
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And please, post your levels too; I was hoping I could come to this thread and see other f.ds'ers creations to enjoy/hate myself over. :)

Once I unlock invisible blocks, I will probably make and publish a level. I will definitely post it here. It might be nice to collect all the level codes in the top post.
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« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2015, 06:26:00 pm »
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It's really interesting to experience a difficulty level that's unavailable in published games.  Not Kaizo Mario, that's just bad, but there are a few good rom hacks that are about as difficult as the hardest SMW levels but the whole way through which is unique.

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« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2015, 09:57:55 pm »
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OK, remember everything I said about the disappointments? Well forget all that. This game lets you make a cannon that flies around in a cloud, only instead of firing bullets, it fires fish.
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« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2015, 10:15:43 pm »
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OK, remember everything I said about the disappointments? Well forget all that. This game lets you make a cannon that flies around in a cloud, only instead of firing bullets, it fires fish.

Is the ammunition customizable?  Could you make a cannon that fires power-ups for some reason?  Could you put that among other flying cannons that rain death upon you to make some sort of bullet hell mini-game where you have to collect power-ups without dying?
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« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2015, 10:42:40 pm »
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OK, remember everything I said about the disappointments? Well forget all that. This game lets you make a cannon that flies around in a cloud, only instead of firing bullets, it fires fish.

Is the ammunition customizable?  Could you make a cannon that fires power-ups for some reason?  Could you put that among other flying cannons that rain death upon you to make some sort of bullet hell mini-game where you have to collect power-ups without dying?

Yes to all that.
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« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2015, 10:45:17 pm »
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Can you have the cannons shoot other cannons and use exponential growth to destroy the game?
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« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2015, 10:46:49 pm »
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Can you have the cannons shoot other cannons and use exponential growth to destroy the game?

No, that you can't do.
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« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2015, 10:53:25 pm »
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This reminds me of my favorite custom mario romhack level.

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« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2015, 02:31:07 am »
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Can you have the cannons shoot other cannons and use exponential growth to destroy the game?

I believe bullet bill launchers/cannons/pipes/lakitu can release the majority of temporary things, but can't release each other, bowser and perhaps one or two other things.
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« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2015, 02:43:32 am »
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OK, remember everything I said about the disappointments? Well forget all that. This game lets you make a cannon that flies around in a cloud, only instead of firing bullets, it fires fish.

Is the ammunition customizable?  Could you make a cannon that fires power-ups for some reason?  Could you put that among other flying cannons that rain death upon you to make some sort of bullet hell mini-game where you have to collect power-ups without dying?

Yes to all that.

Can you make a cannon that fires chain chomps which remain attached to the cannon, such that it becomes a flying, writhing medusa head?
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« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2015, 04:31:12 am »
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Can you make a cannon that fires chain chomps which remain attached to the cannon, such that it becomes a flying, writhing medusa head?

Firing Chain Chomps shoots them loose; the chain won't be attached to anything.
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Can you make a cannon that fires chain chomps which remain attached to the cannon, such that it becomes a flying, writhing medusa head?

Firing Chain Chomps shoots them loose; the chain won't be attached to anything.

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« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2015, 02:37:00 pm »
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Man, making a level that really feels Mario-like is tough. I'm only halfway done with my first level, and even after I'm "finished" it's going to need more polish. I really, really wish there were a way to add checkpoints.
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« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2015, 02:41:07 pm »
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Man, making a level that really feels Mario-like is tough. I'm only halfway done with my first level, and even after I'm "finished" it's going to need more polish. I really, really wish there were a way to add checkpoints.

Best thing I've figured out is pipes that emit mushrooms, that the player can return to if they take a hit, and avoiding using death pits (because those ignore your checkpoints).

I wish it was easier to get feedback on unfinished levels, too. I want to talk about what I'm working on, but short of buying a capture card it's hard to do that online.
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« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2015, 04:00:32 pm »
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Man, making a level that really feels Mario-like is tough. I'm only halfway done with my first level, and even after I'm "finished" it's going to need more polish. I really, really wish there were a way to add checkpoints.

Best thing I've figured out is pipes that emit mushrooms, that the player can return to if they take a hit, and avoiding using death pits (because those ignore your checkpoints).

Well, that's certainly one way to solve the issue. I would still like players to be able to die in the level, though.

What mushroom (and other power-up) pipes are really good for is guaranteeing that you always have x ability, which enables you to build levels that require x ability. That's what I mean by gimmicky levels, though. In any real Mario game, you can beat any level as small Mario if you're skilled enough. Probably I'll warm to the idea eventually, but for now it seems wrong somehow.
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« Reply #30 on: September 15, 2015, 05:09:16 pm »
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Man, making a level that really feels Mario-like is tough. I'm only halfway done with my first level, and even after I'm "finished" it's going to need more polish. I really, really wish there were a way to add checkpoints.

Best thing I've figured out is pipes that emit mushrooms, that the player can return to if they take a hit, and avoiding using death pits (because those ignore your checkpoints).

Well, that's certainly one way to solve the issue. I would still like players to be able to die in the level, though.

What mushroom (and other power-up) pipes are really good for is guaranteeing that you always have x ability, which enables you to build levels that require x ability. That's what I mean by gimmicky levels, though. In any real Mario game, you can beat any level as small Mario if you're skilled enough. Probably I'll warm to the idea eventually, but for now it seems wrong somehow.
I guess you could try to make a Super Mario Bros 3 level since those don't have checkpoints.
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« Reply #31 on: September 15, 2015, 05:21:40 pm »
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Man, making a level that really feels Mario-like is tough. I'm only halfway done with my first level, and even after I'm "finished" it's going to need more polish. I really, really wish there were a way to add checkpoints.

Best thing I've figured out is pipes that emit mushrooms, that the player can return to if they take a hit, and avoiding using death pits (because those ignore your checkpoints).

Well, that's certainly one way to solve the issue. I would still like players to be able to die in the level, though.

What mushroom (and other power-up) pipes are really good for is guaranteeing that you always have x ability, which enables you to build levels that require x ability. That's what I mean by gimmicky levels, though. In any real Mario game, you can beat any level as small Mario if you're skilled enough. Probably I'll warm to the idea eventually, but for now it seems wrong somehow.
I guess you could try to make a Super Mario Bros 3 level since those don't have checkpoints.

They don't? Man, I think you're right. Huh. I never noticed that.
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« Reply #32 on: September 15, 2015, 05:36:00 pm »
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In any real Mario game, you can beat any level as small Mario if you're skilled enough. Probably I'll warm to the idea eventually, but for now it seems wrong somehow.

This isn't true in Super Mario World at least. The speed run category for "small Mario only" has a set of exits / levels that simply can't be done.
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« Reply #33 on: September 15, 2015, 05:46:39 pm »
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In any real Mario game, you can beat any level as small Mario if you're skilled enough. Probably I'll warm to the idea eventually, but for now it seems wrong somehow.

This isn't true in Super Mario World at least. The speed run category for "small Mario only" has a set of exits / levels that simply can't be done.

Well shut my mouth. I had no idea. I'll have to replay through Super Mario World to see which levels are like that.
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« Reply #34 on: September 15, 2015, 05:53:51 pm »
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In any real Mario game, you can beat any level as small Mario if you're skilled enough. Probably I'll warm to the idea eventually, but for now it seems wrong somehow.

This isn't true in Super Mario World at least. The speed run category for "small Mario only" has a set of exits / levels that simply can't be done.

Well shut my mouth. I had no idea. I'll have to replay through Super Mario World to see which levels are like that.

According to this, the run completes 86/96 exits. It's "no powerups", which includes no Yoshi and no switch palaces either.
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« Reply #35 on: September 15, 2015, 06:09:50 pm »
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Is it for Wii U only or?
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« Reply #36 on: September 15, 2015, 07:05:35 pm »
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Is it for Wii U only or?

Yes, Wii U only.
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« Reply #37 on: September 15, 2015, 07:15:43 pm »
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According to this, the run completes 86/96 exits. It's "no powerups", which includes no Yoshi and no switch palaces either.

For the curious, the 10 exits that aren't made in this run:

The 4 Switch Palaces, which are completable as Small Mario, but are counted as "Powerups" and so are skipped

The secret exit to the first Ghost House (requires flying with the cape), which leads to a bonus level

The secret exit to Cheese Bridge Area (requires either the cape or Yoshi to go underneath the main exit), which leads to Soda Lake

The exit to Soda Lake, which you can't get to because of the previous item

Both exits from Star World 1 (filled entirely with blocks you have to break by spin-jumping on them). A Mushroom is provided at the start.

The secret exit to Valley of Bowser 4 (requires using Yoshi to collect an item through an unbreakable wall with his tongue), which leads to one of the entrances to the Star Road bonus levels


Notably, none of these are on the "main path" through the game; almost all of them lead to "bonus" content of one form or another.
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« Reply #38 on: September 15, 2015, 07:19:27 pm »
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Yeah I almost made a post saying that providing items for part of a level is ok in Mario if it's for a secret part of a level.  I decided not to post it since LastFootnote would already know that and feel insulted.

I guess maybe I should have contributed.
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« Reply #39 on: September 15, 2015, 08:40:45 pm »
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New question -- to what can you attach Chain Chomps?  Could you leash it to a Cheep Cheep?  Could you link a bunch together into a Chain Chomp Centipede?  Could you attach them all to a flying cannon to make a flying Chain Chomp Medusa head (that, sadly, does not continue to grow hair)?
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« Reply #40 on: September 15, 2015, 09:18:48 pm »
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New question -- to what can you attach Chain Chomps?  Could you leash it to a Cheep Cheep?  Could you link a bunch together into a Chain Chomp Centipede?  Could you attach them all to a flying cannon to make a flying Chain Chomp Medusa head (that, sadly, does not continue to grow hair)?

I made you a video.


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« Reply #41 on: September 15, 2015, 09:35:13 pm »
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Looks like you can't attach them to each other then?  And you can't attach multiple to the same point?  Still, pretty great.  I feel that Chain Chomps attached to Boos would make for some great fun.
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« Reply #42 on: September 16, 2015, 12:10:39 am »
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First level uploaded.

Super Spinies: 8F29-0000-0040-2DD1

My goal was to make a level that you might see in a Mario game. The theme is giant Spinies. There are secrets to be found; some are obvious and some are less obvious. Feedback is very welcome!
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« Reply #43 on: September 16, 2015, 01:50:31 am »
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First level uploaded.

Super Spinies: 8F29-0000-0040-2DD1

My goal was to make a level that you might see in a Mario game. The theme is giant Spinies. There are secrets to be found; some are obvious and some are less obvious. Feedback is very welcome!

Neat level! It feels more like a Mario level than most I've played so far. I found the pipe to the Fire Flower where you have to crouch underneath them, but no other secrets so far.
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« Reply #44 on: September 16, 2015, 09:22:26 am »
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Those level codes seems surprisingly short for holding the information for a whole level.

I mean they definitely aren't giving you guys enough access to tweaking physics variables and modifying the childhood experiences of each individual Koopa and stuff.

EDIT: OH duh they must be codes to go look at the level where it has been uploaded.  In that case they are surprisingly long, how many levels will there be?
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« Reply #45 on: September 16, 2015, 02:19:16 pm »
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First level uploaded.

Super Spinies: 8F29-0000-0040-2DD1

My goal was to make a level that you might see in a Mario game. The theme is giant Spinies. There are secrets to be found; some are obvious and some are less obvious. Feedback is very welcome!

Neat level! It feels more like a Mario level than most I've played so far. I found the pipe to the Fire Flower where you have to crouch underneath them, but no other secrets so far.

Well "secrets" is a relative term. There is one other underground area that's very easy to access and there are two invisible blocks in the overworld area.

Also I forgot to say this earlier: in case some folks aren't aware, you can use the ZL button (left trigger) to spin jump on Spinies without injury. That's not necessary to beat the level, but it does help.
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« Reply #46 on: September 16, 2015, 02:19:50 pm »
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Yeah I almost made a post saying that providing items for part of a level is ok in Mario if it's for a secret part of a level.  I decided not to post it since LastFootnote would already know that and feel insulted.

I do not feel insulted! And I agree with you that it's OK (and even desirable) to need power-ups in order to access some secret areas.
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« Reply #47 on: September 16, 2015, 02:40:34 pm »
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Those level codes seems surprisingly short for holding the information for a whole level.

I mean they definitely aren't giving you guys enough access to tweaking physics variables and modifying the childhood experiences of each individual Koopa and stuff.

EDIT: OH duh they must be codes to go look at the level where it has been uploaded.  In that case they are surprisingly long, how many levels will there be?

I read that right now around 135,000 courses are being uploaded per day. Don't know if that's true or not, but assuming it hovers at around, say, 50K per day on average, perhaps 20 million in a year's time?

Also it's worth noting that of the 16 digit codes, right now four of those digits seem to be always zero, so the codes are kinda not as long as they first look.
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« Reply #48 on: September 16, 2015, 03:03:23 pm »
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Also it's worth noting that of the 16 digit codes, right now four of those digits seem to be always zero, so the codes are kinda not as long as they first look.

Six of them, actually! I have yet to see a code where the 9th and 10th digits weren't also zeros.
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« Reply #49 on: September 16, 2015, 03:30:43 pm »
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Those level codes seems surprisingly short for holding the information for a whole level.

I mean they definitely aren't giving you guys enough access to tweaking physics variables and modifying the childhood experiences of each individual Koopa and stuff.

EDIT: OH duh they must be codes to go look at the level where it has been uploaded.  In that case they are surprisingly long, how many levels will there be?

I read that right now around 135,000 courses are being uploaded per day. Don't know if that's true or not, but assuming it hovers at around, say, 50K per day on average, perhaps 20 million in a year's time?

Also it's worth noting that of the 16 digit codes, right now four of those digits seem to be always zero, so the codes are kinda not as long as they first look.
If it's a hundred million a year, then we have 180 billion years until the 18 quintilion possible codes indexed by a 16 character hex code are exhausted.

At that time, Nintendo will probably be giving us E3 sneak peaks of a game system sequel to the Wii U with similar specs to the old one but with a brand new way of controlling the game and we will be so excited we will stop making Mario levels until Mario Maker 2 comes out and we make the Mario levels with Playdough.

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« Reply #50 on: September 16, 2015, 04:57:26 pm »
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Those level codes seems surprisingly short for holding the information for a whole level.

I mean they definitely aren't giving you guys enough access to tweaking physics variables and modifying the childhood experiences of each individual Koopa and stuff.

EDIT: OH duh they must be codes to go look at the level where it has been uploaded.  In that case they are surprisingly long, how many levels will there be?

I read that right now around 135,000 courses are being uploaded per day. Don't know if that's true or not, but assuming it hovers at around, say, 50K per day on average, perhaps 20 million in a year's time?

Also it's worth noting that of the 16 digit codes, right now four of those digits seem to be always zero, so the codes are kinda not as long as they first look.
If it's a hundred million a year, then we have 180 billion years until the 18 quintilion possible codes indexed by a 16 character hex code are exhausted.

At that time, Nintendo will probably be giving us E3 sneak peaks of a game system sequel to the Wii U with similar specs to the old one but with a brand new way of controlling the game and we will be so excited we will stop making Mario levels until Mario Maker 2 comes out and we make the Mario levels with Playdough.

This. Also, levels apparently expire after a while, making it possible—although probably not advisable—to reuse codes.
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« Reply #51 on: September 16, 2015, 08:59:31 pm »
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Did you know you can follow course makers? You can! Just touch their portrait and then touch the heart icon in the upper right to follow them.

Anyhow, Drab, I just played "Don't Lose The Cannon!" I think I almost finished it. It's got a lot of great ideas, but the whole package is just too difficult. After dying against Bowser I didn't have the patience to start all over again. Mind you this was my 12th attempt or so. I think it really needs to be two courses.
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« Reply #52 on: September 16, 2015, 11:22:22 pm »
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Yeah, that's the rub -- even with faux checkpoints, if you do die it's so punishing.

And yeah, the Bowser fight is the last part.
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« Reply #53 on: September 19, 2015, 01:00:46 am »
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I uploaded a new level.

Your Eternal Reward
2828-0000-004D-F565


It's... not as friendly as I envisioned it. But it is what it is.
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« Reply #54 on: September 19, 2015, 01:21:24 am »
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I uploaded a new level.

Your Eternal Reward
2828-0000-004D-F565


It's... not as friendly as I envisioned it. But it is what it is.

Man, you posted this just as I stopped playing. I'll check it out tomorrow evening at the latest.

I've just started designing my second level: Chomp Caverns. There are some neat things you can do with chain chomps, but I'm going to do my best to keep the difficulty manageable.
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« Reply #55 on: September 20, 2015, 03:20:11 pm »
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Chomp Caverns: B929-0000-0058-B6EF

Another traditional-style Mario level. Medium-Hard difficulty. Lots of goodies to find!
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« Reply #56 on: September 22, 2015, 04:33:22 pm »
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Do you have to beat your level to upload it?
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« Reply #57 on: September 22, 2015, 05:02:26 pm »
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Do you have to beat your level to upload it?

Yes.
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« Reply #58 on: September 22, 2015, 05:17:11 pm »
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Oh, this is relevant here:

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11642.msg526312#msg526312

The links eventually lead to the source.
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« Reply #59 on: September 22, 2015, 05:43:44 pm »
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Oh, this is relevant here:

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11642.msg526312#msg526312

The links eventually lead to the source.

The designer is putting videos on Youtube too.  Here's another:

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« Reply #60 on: September 22, 2015, 05:46:35 pm »
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Premise appears to be impossible precision in timing.
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« Reply #61 on: September 23, 2015, 05:52:58 pm »
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So I did it. I bought the game. Haven't had much time playing it yet, about halfway through making my first course, which I've tentatively named Goomba Lair. Hopefully it'll be not entirely terrible.

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« Reply #62 on: September 24, 2015, 12:50:48 pm »
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Okay, Goomba Lair: F7F9-0000-0069-35B0. Version 2: 246F-0000-0069-C928. It's my first course, uses nothing but the intial set of items, and any feedback would be nice (provided it isn't Joseph2302 saying "it sucks" and nothing else)
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« Reply #64 on: September 24, 2015, 03:27:18 pm »
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Okay, Goomba Lair: F7F9-0000-0069-35B0. It's my first course, uses nothing but the intial set of items, and any feedback would be nice (provided it isn't Joseph2302 saying "it sucks" and nothing else)

It's certainly pretty darn good for a level that only uses the initial set of items.

Originally I was going to wait the full 9 days for everything to unlock, but I wasn't interested in creating a level without invisible blocks (day 6) or sub-areas (day 9) that I could use for secret bonus items and areas.

To unlock everything faster, first make sure you've used all the parts you have available at least once (none of them should have a red exclamation mark by them). After about 5 minutes of doing stuff in the editor, the game will pop up a dialog and tell you that a new shipment of stuff is on the way. When this happens, fill your entire course with blocks, preferably using the copy/paste tool (L to select an area of blocks; ZL to copy them). Eventually the game will tell you that your stuff came earlier than expected.

Repeat the instructions of the previous paragraph until you've unlocked everything (the game will tell you when this has happened).
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« Reply #65 on: September 24, 2015, 04:24:30 pm »
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Okay, Goomba Lair: F7F9-0000-0069-35B0. It's my first course, uses nothing but the intial set of items, and any feedback would be nice (provided it isn't Joseph2302 saying "it sucks" and nothing else)

It's pretty good! There's a couple parts that seem quite difficult to pass without taking damage, but overall it's especially good for just using the basic items.
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« Reply #66 on: September 24, 2015, 04:31:59 pm »
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It's certainly pretty darn good for a level that only uses the initial set of items.

It's pretty good! There's a couple parts that seem quite difficult to pass without taking damage, but overall it's especially good for just using the basic items.

Thanks :). There's one or two bits that I'm still interested in making a few minor changes to (the penultimate jump in the final staircase is really hard, and I feel like the course ramps up a little bit too fast in the middle) but otherwise, I was quite pleased with how it turned out.

Oh, and just to mention, did either of you find the hidden area to the top left? Without one up mushrooms to add, I had to improvise a little on the reward, but, you know... maybe it's even better this way anyway.

it sucks

Thanks for the feedback. It's advice like this that really lets me know there's still work to be done, especially since you aren't Joseph.
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« Reply #67 on: September 24, 2015, 04:36:01 pm »
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I don't really like making Mario levels, I just like playing them.  I'm thinking I should wait 3 years until the actual best creations are consolidated and identified and conveniently available before picking this up.
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« Reply #68 on: September 24, 2015, 05:22:23 pm »
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After looking at the feedback people have given, I've updated Goomba Lair. New code is 246F-0000-0069-C928
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« Reply #69 on: September 24, 2015, 05:24:53 pm »
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It's certainly pretty darn good for a level that only uses the initial set of items.

It's pretty good! There's a couple parts that seem quite difficult to pass without taking damage, but overall it's especially good for just using the basic items.

Thanks :). There's one or two bits that I'm still interested in making a few minor changes to (the penultimate jump in the final staircase is really hard, and I feel like the course ramps up a little bit too fast in the middle) but otherwise, I was quite pleased with how it turned out.

Oh, and just to mention, did either of you find the hidden area to the top left? Without one up mushrooms to add, I had to improvise a little on the reward, but, you know... maybe it's even better this way anyway.

it sucks

Thanks for the feedback. It's advice like this that really lets me know there's still work to be done, especially since you aren't Joseph.

I did. I may or may not have hit myself with the Koopa.
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« Reply #70 on: September 24, 2015, 05:36:50 pm »
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After looking at the feedback people have given, I've updated Goomba Lair. New code is 246F-0000-0069-C928
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« Reply #71 on: September 24, 2015, 05:42:35 pm »
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After looking at the feedback people have given, I've updated Goomba Lair. New code is 246F-0000-0069-C928
Glad I could help.

What's your new opinion? it sucks I guess

Also once I have some spare time (likely Saturday) I plan to play through all the courses people have uploaded, and will give my thoughts on them then.
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« Reply #72 on: September 24, 2015, 05:47:44 pm »
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After looking at the feedback people have given, I've updated Goomba Lair. New code is 246F-0000-0069-C928
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What's your new opinion?

Uh, I don't think you should take Watno seriously. When I played it, Drab was the only other person who had done so, yet that was after Watno posted "It sucks".
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« Reply #73 on: September 24, 2015, 07:16:52 pm »
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I picked this up yesterday, and managed to die on some fairly straightforward courses so I don't think I'll be trying any of the Dark Souls-style ones any time soon. I'll try to remember to grab some level codes from here for future reference.
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« Reply #74 on: September 24, 2015, 09:41:56 pm »
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This is a cool concept: don't jump. 

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« Reply #75 on: September 24, 2015, 09:55:35 pm »
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There's a littlemac skin available in mario maker?
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« Reply #76 on: September 24, 2015, 10:03:29 pm »
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There's a littlemac skin available in mario maker?

Yeah, every Amiibo has a skin.
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« Reply #77 on: September 24, 2015, 10:25:58 pm »
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A metroid-style level.

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« Reply #78 on: September 25, 2015, 10:26:27 pm »
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A metroid-style level.

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Is this one your level, or someone else's?
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« Reply #79 on: September 26, 2015, 12:19:03 am »
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I don't have a Wii U!  Just sharing interesting videos I found. :)

Here's a non-SMM video I found that might be old hat to some:



The level was made by the same guy who made Bomb Voyage and those other inhuman-timing levels.
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« Reply #80 on: September 26, 2015, 12:39:41 am »
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Finally finished my third stage.

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It's a athletic-style level with a slow autoscroll. The primary theme is Cheep Cheeps with wings. Cheep Cheeps don't interact with much in Mario Maker—you can't make something ride around on them, for instance—so it was tough thinking of interesting things to do. Anyway, I think the result is worth a play or two. There's a choice between the low road (through a short underwater sub-area) and the high road (bouncing off Cheep Cheeps) near the middle of the stage.
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« Reply #81 on: September 26, 2015, 01:08:48 am »
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I'd love it if you guys posted videos of your stages so I could see them. :)
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« Reply #82 on: September 26, 2015, 02:17:18 am »
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I'd love it if you guys posted videos of your stages so I could see them. :)

Sadly it's much harder to do than it would be if it were a PC game. Unless all you want is shaky cellphone footage. :p
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« Reply #83 on: September 26, 2015, 06:11:58 am »
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I played them all!

Super Spinies: I liked it, it did feel like a natural Mario level. Only thing I disliked was the mushroom at the start is a little tricky to grab if you aren't expecting it due to the holes right ahead of it.

Chomp Caverns: I played it twice. The stars make it pretty easy I would say, but whatever. Played it twice, it's a bit harder without the stars.

Careful Coin Collection: Pretty easy but a really nice idea.

Platform Gauntlet: Pretty tough course but pretty fun. Took me a few tries to get through. Found all three 1-ups as well (One's near the start, one is in plain sight in the middle, one is in the block at the end))

Don't Lose That Cannon!: Really cool idea, and executed pretty well too. There were one or two frustrating parts (the bit after the first pipe is overly spammy on enemies, I would say, and I got squished by the cannon against a wall once in the first area which is pretty annoying). But it was a fun level. Sadly almost ran out of time at the end.

Waluigi's Eternal Reward: I... don't get the name, but this is a fun challenge. Reminds me of the P-switch challenge Nintendo's YT showed off about two months or so ago (the one made by the speedrunner IIRC). Much less brutal than their version though, which is good.
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« Reply #84 on: September 28, 2015, 03:11:24 am »
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New level. "Lemmings". I think you can guess the idea.

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« Reply #85 on: September 28, 2015, 06:36:53 pm »
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I don't know how much you guys like throwing things at your TV, but in case it's a lot, I made some levels for you:

Wall Jumps: E1C9-0000-007A-CC92
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This one is just a silly idea I had, if you didn't like those two because they were unreasonably hard, you still might like this one:

Race the Spiny: B87F-0000-007A-CFC4

I also just got around to playing everyone's levels.  There were some good ideas there!  Some random comments:

Chomp Caverns: I assume at the end, you wanted the platforms to start at the vertices of the triangle or something like that.  Unfortunately, it’s hard to make several objects move on the same track the way you want them to, because it’s based on when they’re loaded on the screen.  For me two of the platforms were basically overlapping and it looked weird.

Careful Coin Collection: The idea behind this level is really clever and I really like it.

Platform Gauntlet: I like this one too, my only complaint is that the ending gets too chaotic.

Your Eternal Reward: This is a cool idea too, and really hard.  I think I like it a lot.  I’m confused by the ending, though.  There’s a path for you to go up to the left, then back to the right, and hit the switch and go down to the flagpole, so it looks like that’s what you’re supposed to do.  But you can also just go all the way to the right (along the “lower” path, above the row of switches), press the switch at the end and jump to the flagpole.  I did this because I noticed the regular ground there and thought I was supposed to do that to land on the ground, but when I hit the switch and jumped the flagpole appeared and I accidentally grabbed it and won.  Is that intentional?  And what is the door for?
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« Reply #86 on: September 28, 2015, 07:11:33 pm »
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Your Eternal Reward: This is a cool idea too, and really hard.  I think I like it a lot.  I’m confused by the ending, though.  There’s a path for you to go up to the left, then back to the right, and hit the switch and go down to the flagpole, so it looks like that’s what you’re supposed to do.  But you can also just go all the way to the right (along the “lower” path, above the row of switches), press the switch at the end and jump to the flagpole.  I did this because I noticed the regular ground there and thought I was supposed to do that to land on the ground, but when I hit the switch and jumped the flagpole appeared and I accidentally grabbed it and won.  Is that intentional?  And what is the door for?

Yeah, I didn't consider that you could do that; the intended route is to go up and to the right, and fall straight down to the flagpole. The regular ground isn't editable, it's built in to the flagpole, sadly.

The door at the start shows you the end, where you're supposed to hit the P-Switch to finish the level. I wanted to make that P Switch as distinct as possible to ensure that people would recognize that yes, you're supposed to hit that one.

I also made an easier version of the level (Waluigi's Eternal Reward) with some of the P Switches moved/removed, since the clear rate was so low on the original version. But I'm glad you liked it!
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« Reply #87 on: October 01, 2015, 12:58:52 pm »
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Why did I even do this? It was an idea I had before the game even came out, and wanted to try and make it work. I kinda succeeded. Sadly Bowser doesn't move quite like I'd hoped, so some bits can be frustrating because of AI.

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« Reply #88 on: October 01, 2015, 03:21:41 pm »
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Why did I even do this? It was an idea I had before the game even came out, and wanted to try and make it work. I kinda succeeded. Sadly Bowser doesn't move quite like I'd hoped, so some bits can be frustrating because of AI.

Bowser Escort Mission: 4C57-0000-0081-CBAE
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« Reply #89 on: October 07, 2015, 01:37:19 pm »
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So this guy found(?) a glitch where you can overlap two blocks, and have a note block that looks like ground until you touch it, for instance.

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« Reply #90 on: October 07, 2015, 02:45:08 pm »
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So this guy found(?) a glitch where you can overlap two blocks, and have a note block that looks like ground until you touch it, for instance.

http://www.twitch.tv/linkums

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« Reply #91 on: October 07, 2015, 04:03:17 pm »
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So this guy found(?) a glitch where you can overlap two blocks, and have a note block that looks like ground until you touch it, for instance.

http://www.twitch.tv/linkums

How do you do it?

Place two different solid blocks (Solid, Ice, Note, ?, Hidden, Brick). Place a short section of track. Attach one block to the track. Pick up the track (and block attached to it), and overlay the two blocks. Select the track tool, and delete the track by drawing over it (NOT using the delete tool).

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« Reply #92 on: October 07, 2015, 04:34:49 pm »
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« Reply #93 on: October 07, 2015, 06:40:39 pm »
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« Reply #94 on: October 09, 2015, 01:19:39 am »
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« Reply #95 on: October 12, 2015, 02:47:35 pm »
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« Reply #96 on: October 27, 2015, 12:46:22 pm »
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New update! Checkpoints! Scaling powerups!

November 4th!
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« Reply #97 on: October 27, 2015, 03:15:42 pm »
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New update! Checkpoints! Scaling powerups!

November 4th!

Man, I am looking forward to this. I wish those two features had been included from the start, but better late than never I guess.
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« Reply #98 on: October 27, 2015, 05:08:42 pm »
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Not included: Slopes. You know, like the ones found in the Super Mario Maker course in Smash Bros?
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« Reply #99 on: October 27, 2015, 05:59:31 pm »
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Not included: Slopes. You know, like the ones found in the Super Mario Maker course in Smash Bros?

I think people underestimate how complicated slopes are. I mean, not impossible, but there's a lot of interactions to program and error check; slopes have always been one of the glitchiest types of terrain even in normal Mario games.
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« Reply #100 on: October 28, 2015, 12:22:38 pm »
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I want not only slopes, but slopes that you can use to exploit glitches and pass into walls.

Also, what are scaling powerups?
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« Reply #101 on: October 28, 2015, 12:32:05 pm »
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Also, what are scaling powerups?

You can make it so that, if you're small, a block contains a mushroom, but if you're already big, it contains another power-up. The trailer shows it working with a Fire Flower, but hopefully it works with the MysteryShroom/Leaf/Cape/PropellerShroom too.
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« Reply #102 on: October 28, 2015, 11:09:38 pm »
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Also, what are scaling powerups?

You can make it so that, if you're small, a block contains a mushroom, but if you're already big, it contains another power-up. The trailer shows it working with a Fire Flower, but hopefully it works with the MysteryShroom/Leaf/Cape/PropellerShroom too.

MysteryShroom makes you turn tiny when you get hit, though, so I'm not sure if it would be a good idea to go from Mushroom to MysteryShroom.  The only difference (most of the time) is that with a MysteryShroom your hitbox is smaller.
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« Reply #103 on: October 29, 2015, 08:58:31 pm »
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« Reply #104 on: November 04, 2015, 05:50:22 pm »
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My mind just got blown.

My brother was playing a Mario World airship level, and I said, "It's interesting how they just used a couple songs for all of the music for that game.  There's the overworld song which is used in the athletic theme, underwater, and underground, while there's the castle theme, which is used for the...

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« Reply #105 on: November 12, 2015, 09:02:38 pm »
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« Reply #106 on: November 22, 2015, 12:34:26 pm »
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All of my courses have been updated! I'd be happy for any feedback or thoughts on the new courses.

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« Reply #107 on: December 22, 2015, 11:59:09 am »
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I am sad that turtles don't bounce off of the new bouncy thing. They just fall through it.
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« Reply #108 on: December 22, 2015, 03:39:47 pm »
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I am sad that turtles don't bounce off of the new bouncy thing. They just fall through it.

I'm sad that they haven't added more new stuff yet. I mean there's a whole empty row left in the palette, which is potentially 12 new things. And of course there's obvious directions to go with the existing things. Hammer Bros + shaking = Boomerang Bros. Hammer Bros + Fire Flower = Fire Bros. In fact I'm kind of surprised they didn't do the "drag a Fire Flower onto it" thing with Piranha Plants and the clown car, among other things.

I guess you can argue that the stuff they have covers a lot of bases, functionally. A lot of missing enemies are similar to ones they have.
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« Reply #109 on: December 23, 2015, 01:04:41 am »
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I'm sad that they haven't added more new stuff yet. I mean there's a whole empty row left in the palette, which is potentially 12 new things. And of course there's obvious directions to go with the existing things. Hammer Bros + shaking = Boomerang Bros. Hammer Bros + Fire Flower = Fire Bros. In fact I'm kind of surprised they didn't do the "drag a Fire Flower onto it" thing with Piranha Plants and the clown car, among other things.

I guess you can argue that the stuff they have covers a lot of bases, functionally. A lot of missing enemies are similar to ones they have.
I have been expecting that they'll have DLC that adds desert and ice levels, with new objects and monsters that match. The game is a hit so of course they should have DLC (requiring the DLC to make but not to play), and that's the obvious thing to do. I don't think there's a shortage of good stuff to do for at least one expansion (provided it can all be stuff the original game didn't have). I feel like the two little updates are just there to keep up interest in the interim. But uh, with turtles just falling through the bouncy thing, I dunno, it seems like their hearts aren't in it.
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« Reply #110 on: December 23, 2015, 08:07:24 am »
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I am sad that turtles don't bounce off of the new bouncy thing. They just fall through it.

I'm sad that they haven't added more new stuff yet. I mean there's a whole empty row left in the palette, which is potentially 12 new things. And of course there's obvious directions to go with the existing things. Hammer Bros + shaking = Boomerang Bros. Hammer Bros + Fire Flower = Fire Bros. In fact I'm kind of surprised they didn't do the "drag a Fire Flower onto it" thing with Piranha Plants and the clown car, among other things.

I guess you can argue that the stuff they have covers a lot of bases, functionally. A lot of missing enemies are similar to ones they have.

The empty row in the palette is a shortcut row; you can drag other things to it to have a "favorite" tool list.
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« Reply #111 on: December 23, 2015, 08:09:14 am »
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Also, the new bumpers fill a niche specifically because turtles fall through them -- previously there was no object that passed every non-Mario entity through, but rejected Mario.

Plus, the Bumper is mostly a re skinned Grinder, which also didn't interact with enemies at all.
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« Reply #112 on: December 23, 2015, 09:13:11 am »
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I am sad that turtles don't bounce off of the new bouncy thing. They just fall through it.

I'm sad that they haven't added more new stuff yet. I mean there's a whole empty row left in the palette, which is potentially 12 new things. And of course there's obvious directions to go with the existing things. Hammer Bros + shaking = Boomerang Bros. Hammer Bros + Fire Flower = Fire Bros. In fact I'm kind of surprised they didn't do the "drag a Fire Flower onto it" thing with Piranha Plants and the clown car, among other things.

I guess you can argue that the stuff they have covers a lot of bases, functionally. A lot of missing enemies are similar to ones they have.

The empty row in the palette is a shortcut row; you can drag other things to it to have a "favorite" tool list.

Yes, but that's nonsense because you can drag anything anywhere in the palette.
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« Reply #113 on: December 23, 2015, 09:08:13 pm »
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Also, the new bumpers fill a niche specifically because turtles fall through them -- previously there was no object that passed every non-Mario entity through, but rejected Mario.

Yeah, this. Plus, if you want turtles to bounce you've got lots of options, including note blocks and springboards.
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« Reply #114 on: December 24, 2015, 01:49:40 pm »
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The empty row in the palette is a shortcut row; you can drag other things to it to have a "favorite" tool list.

Yes, but that's nonsense because you can drag anything anywhere in the palette.

Well, sure, but it's _official_ nonsense.
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« Reply #115 on: December 30, 2015, 02:33:43 am »
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Fort Hammer: BB6A-0000-0158-B152

After many months, I finally took the time to finish my fourth level. I'm glad I waited, since checkpoints allowed me to make a much more extensive course. I even used the new bumpers in a bonus room, taking advantage of the fact that non-Mario entities pass through them! Lots of secrets to be found, and hopefully the level is good enough to warrant replaying in order to find them. Please give it a shot if you have the time!
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« Reply #116 on: December 30, 2015, 08:08:44 am »
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https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/courses/BB6A-0000-015B-B152

The new bookmark site makes it really convenient to play levels later -- I can add a level to my bookmarks while I'm at work, so I don't have to remember to do it later. :)

However, I can't get this level to load. Is the code correct for sure?
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« Reply #117 on: December 30, 2015, 09:24:56 am »
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https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/courses/BB6A-0000-015B-B152

The new bookmark site makes it really convenient to play levels later -- I can add a level to my bookmarks while I'm at work, so I don't have to remember to do it later. :)

However, I can't get this level to load. Is the code correct for sure?

Ack, it was not! The 12th character should be an '8', not a 'B'. I have updated it in the above post! And here's the correct link to bookmark it: https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/courses/BB6A-0000-0158-B152
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« Reply #118 on: December 31, 2015, 01:04:44 pm »
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A few months back I was playing some great levels (I think by OmegaDyne) and he was doing a neat thing that I didn't know was possible. It turns out that you can overlay any number of pipes, and if they overlap, the most recently linked one will be the one that Mario uses when he enters the pipe. This allows you to…

• Create several entrance pipes that all lead to the same exit. If you go back into the exit, the entrance pipe you end up at will be the one you last linked.
• Have a pipe that, if you re-enter it, takes you somewhere other than where you were when you entered it the first time.

My latest stage, Fort Hammer, does both of these things. The first area has a two pipes that take you to two different rooms, but then both lead to the same checkpoint afterward. And at the end of the stage, you can re-enter a pipe in order to access a secret bonus area.
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« Reply #119 on: December 31, 2015, 01:20:20 pm »
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Here's a compilation of f.DS member profile pages on the Super Mario Maker Bookmark site.

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I can't find scott_pilgrim's profile right now. Apologies if I missed anyone else, but feel free to add your page. I will update this post with it (or Drab will if he puts this in the OP).
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« Reply #120 on: January 04, 2016, 11:02:32 am »
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Fort Hammer: BB6A-0000-0158-B152

After many months, I finally took the time to finish my fourth level. I'm glad I waited, since checkpoints allowed me to make a much more extensive course. I even used the new bumpers in a bonus room, taking advantage of the fact that non-Mario entities pass through them! Lots of secrets to be found, and hopefully the level is good enough to warrant replaying in order to find them. Please give it a shot if you have the time!

I enjoyed this level very much! You obviously put a lot of work into making it not only play nicely, but look visually appealing also. That last boss fight is quite difficult if you die, since the checkpoint doesn't give you a fire flower back.

At least unless you find the hidden shellmet. Did you intend that to let you skip the boss? You can just crouch on the donut blocks and Bowser Jr. can't stop you from passing by without defeating them.
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« Reply #121 on: January 04, 2016, 01:44:40 pm »
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I enjoyed this level very much! You obviously put a lot of work into making it not only play nicely, but look visually appealing also.

Thanks very much! It is my magnum opus, at least for the time being.

That last boss fight is quite difficult if you die, since the checkpoint doesn't give you a fire flower back.

At least unless you find the hidden shellmet. Did you intend that to let you skip the boss? You can just crouch on the donut blocks and Bowser Jr. can't stop you from passing by without defeating them.

Well, "skip the boss" is relative. It was intentional that you could reach the axe without defeating the boss. If I had found some really good way to make you fight the boss (within that constained space, so no clown cars etc.), I may have gone for it, but it's not so bad that you don't have to. It's nice when there are multiple ways to overcome an obstacle; players get to feel clever. In fact, the shellmet isn't even the easiest way to pass that boss! You can beat the level without ever entering the boss's chamber. Or for a different kind of challenge, you can find the POW block hidden halfway through the stage, then carry it all the way to the end for an insta-kill against the boss.

Just for fun, here's a checklist of the secrets I've hidden throughout the level.

Area 1
• Super Star in a hidden block on the left side of the pit where the first Hammer Bro is jumping
• 1-Up Mushroom in the last Fire Bar of the area

There are two Warp Pipes out of Area 1: the earlier one that's harder to enter leads to Area 2A, while the one at the end leads to Area 2B.

Area 2A
• Shellmet in the Fire Bar

Area 2B
• 1-Up Mushroom in a hidden block to the right of the exit pipe

Area 3
• POW Block in a hidden block at the start of the area, between the groups of blocks on the upper level
• Super Mushroom/Fire Flower in a hidden block after the first group of Hammer Bros

Area 4
• Warp Pipe accessible by jumping off the Sledge Bro at the end of the area to get above the ceiling

Area 5: Boss
• Shellmet in a hidden block on the left side of the first chamber
• Bonus Room w/100 Coins accessible by re-entering the pipe from Area 4
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« Reply #122 on: January 17, 2016, 12:17:46 pm »
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« Reply #123 on: January 17, 2016, 02:59:36 pm »
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For those who missed it:

At AGDQ (Awesome Games Done Quick) 2016, two teams of four players each competed at Super Mario Maker to complete a set of 8 rather difficult courses they had never seen before, as fast as possible. Then, two teams of two competed to complete 8 extremely hard Mario Maker courses, all of which can be found out in the wild. Both are well worth a watch, in my opinion.
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« Reply #124 on: January 17, 2016, 03:26:38 pm »
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For those who missed it:

At AGDQ (Awesome Games Done Quick) 2016, two teams of four players each competed at Super Mario Maker to complete a set of 8 rather difficult courses they had never seen before, as fast as possible. Then, two teams of two competed to complete 8 extremely hard Mario Maker courses, all of which can be found out in the wild. Both are well worth a watch, in my opinion.

Are they worth a watch if I'm not particularly into Mario Maker or Awesome Games Done Quick (but don't really hate them either)?
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« Reply #125 on: January 17, 2016, 04:48:47 pm »
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There's probably highlights from both that are worth a watch, but if you aren't especially into Mario games being played fast, then watching the entire things is probably not so worthwhile. They have some very good moments and some really nice tricks, but lots of deaths and stuff, so it's not exactly a showstopper from start to finish. Maybe check out the first minute of the first one and see what you think.
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« Reply #126 on: January 17, 2016, 05:13:38 pm »
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There's probably highlights from both that are worth a watch, but if you aren't especially into Mario games being played fast, then watching the entire things is probably not so worthwhile. They have some very good moments and some really nice tricks, but lots of deaths and stuff, so it's not exactly a showstopper from start to finish. Maybe check out the first minute of the first one and see what you think.

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« Reply #127 on: March 03, 2016, 06:29:02 pm »
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Update in a week.

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Super Mario Maker: More than 6.2 million courses from players around the world are available for others to play, and now a free March 9 update will add a Super Expert mode to the 100-Mario Challenge. The mode is unlocked after players clear Expert mode. Super Expert Mode dishes out six extremely tough courses. Additionally, 12 new Mystery Mushroom costumes have been added to 100 Mario Challenge. The update also provides level creators with even more tools:

> Shake a P Switch to turn it into a key. Shake a Door to turn it into a Key Door. Creators can make enemies hold keys, meaning players can’t advance without defeating mandatory bosses.
> Shake a Coin to turn it into a Pink Coin. Players must collect them all to make a key appear.
> Shake a Thwomp to turn it into a massive Skewer column from Super Mario World.

Additionally, the Super Mario Maker Bookmark site will see additions such as ranking categories for world records and the number of first clears on courses, inspiring new ways to experience the main game.
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« Reply #128 on: March 03, 2016, 09:58:04 pm »
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So much good stuff coming. Hopefully the Super Expert challenge will suck in all the courses with <1% pass rate or so, leaving the Expert challenge at something just marginally less infuriating. I'm not sure I like the sound of mandatory bosses, though.
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« Reply #129 on: March 08, 2016, 02:56:00 pm »
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I'm pretty excited about the update. The pink coins especially are cool. I wonder how many you can have in a level, and if they carry over from between sub-areas. I'm guessing "five" and "yes", respectively. Also it's interesting that keys don't have to be carried, but just float along with you. I guess that had to be the case to make them work with the original Super Mario Bros.

I will once again lament the absence of some really obvious stuff the game should have. Today's complaint: you should be able to place blue coins, a.k.a. coins that only appear once you hit a P-Switch.

EDIT: A new video was uploaded; 5 pink coins is indeed the maximum per stage. Also you can hold up to 8 keys at once for some reason. Looks like pairs of doors remain permanently unlocked, though, so I'm not sure why you'd ever need more than fou—oh, right, it's 4 sets of doors per area, so you might need 8 keys after all. Guess that means you can take keys through pipes.

EDIT: Correction: it appears you can have 10 pink coins total, 5 in each area. But they all stack together; you need all of them to make a single key.
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« Reply #131 on: March 23, 2016, 04:47:02 pm »
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Lately I've been playing 100 Mario Mode on Expert difficulty. For some reason that even I cannot fathom, I am trying to collect all the costumes, and have already gotten all the Easy and Medium ones.

I like Expert mode! The average quality of levels tends to be much higher. Starting today, I plan to post levels that I found particularly excellent. I'm going to aim for one per day, but we'll see if I can keep that up (I can't). Today's level is 36 Chambers, and as the name implies, it's a gauntlet of 36 rooms, each with a unique obstacle. There are two checkpoints.





Also I'll do a quick plug for Drab's latest level, The Gatekeepers v1.1, which I played just last night. In some ways it's of a theme with 36 Chambers, but there are 8 chambers and each one contains a mini-boss fight. Each battle is more clever than the last!



Remember that you can follow these links and bookmark these stages using your browser, making them easily accessible from your Wii U without the need to enter the 16-digit code.
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« Reply #132 on: March 24, 2016, 09:49:06 am »
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Today I have a real humdinger for you: Bowser's Flame Wheel Fortress! Over 5500 people have played it, so it's possible you've seen it before. But if you haven't, you should give it a look! Belgian creator Jadpraet drops fire bars on tracks in order to create moving wheels of flame, as you can see in this screenshot.



But I wouldn't be recommending the level just for that gimmick alone. It's a well-designed level, and there was a moment that made me say "Wow". Check it out!
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« Reply #133 on: March 28, 2016, 06:35:50 pm »
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Thanks LFN! I will be bookmarking these, and dying many times over to them in the future.
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« Reply #134 on: March 30, 2016, 06:07:59 pm »
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I played last night, but for some reason the courses I thought I'd bookmarked weren't there. So I've tried again, hopefully they'll be there next chance I get to play.

It's a shame there's no easy way to go in the other direction - play a course then bring up its code in the bookmarks. I'll have to track down a couple I played last night, there were some cool ones, including a neat little one-room puzzle.

Speaking of one-room puzzles, this one took me far too long to figure out for how simple it was, but I reckon some of you might enjoy it: One-Screen Puzzle #8.
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« Reply #136 on: May 24, 2016, 12:50:37 pm »
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I made another level! The Hot House - ED32-0000-0241-C127 (or get it from my maker page or however that works)
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I can feel myself getting angry just watching these.
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« Reply #138 on: July 20, 2016, 02:36:50 pm »
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I made another level! The Hot House - ED32-0000-0241-C127 (or get it from my maker page or however that works)

I finally played this! Nice level.
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« Reply #139 on: July 20, 2016, 02:49:09 pm »
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For those who didn't see it, the SGDQ blind Mario Maker race was pretty great. A few levels were perhaps a little too hard (Wallkick Sunshine Happytime in particular) but it was still pretty exciting and has some really cool levels involved.

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« Reply #140 on: July 20, 2016, 04:02:22 pm »
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« Reply #141 on: August 04, 2016, 04:32:47 pm »
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Something I'm pretty pleased with in this stage is that every section has multiple ways through. Usually there's an alternate faster method than the obvious way through. Some sections even have 3 or more ways. This also applies to the mini Rube Goldberg machine at the end, which can do one of three different things depending on how you end the level (well potentially more if you jump over the end goal and mess with the machine itself, but... yeah).

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« Reply #142 on: August 26, 2016, 11:27:55 am »
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A series of mini challenges level - The Six Coins: 16C5-0000-028D-D003
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« Reply #143 on: October 04, 2016, 05:29:27 pm »
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https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/courses/BB11-0000-02A6-4266 - Assassin Mario. Pretty tough, probably slightly easier than The Six Coins, but likely still Expert level difficulty.
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« Reply #144 on: December 04, 2016, 08:45:25 am »
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So I got a Wii U recently, along with Mario Maker. Been playing a bunch of one screen puzzle levels. Mostly by Sean Hip. Anyone else play or make one screen puzzles? I'm not much into the creating part of he game; I don't have any good ideas.
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Sean Hip's puzzles are completely insane. I've been watching CarlSagen42 play through them on Youtube, which is pretty entertaining, but yeah, his puzzles are amazing.

I haven't made any puzzles personally. I've considered it, but they seem very difficult to make work and work well.
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« Reply #146 on: December 05, 2016, 12:14:09 pm »
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Sean Hip's puzzles are completely insane. I've been watching CarlSagen42 play through them on Youtube, which is pretty entertaining, but yeah, his puzzles are amazing.

I haven't made any puzzles personally. I've considered it, but they seem very difficult to make work and work well.

Yeah Carl Sagan is how I found about Sean Hip too. He's the only MM streamer I've found that I like. I've been solving a puzzle, then watching the Sagan video on it to see how his thought process differed from mine. Often we have slightly varying versions of the solution.
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« Reply #147 on: December 05, 2016, 05:14:25 pm »
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I watched a few random CarlSagan videos on YouTube, and I'm now suckered into the long series where he keeps playing "one more" level by Kanade, aka "this Japanese girl with huge glasses". It's kind of nice to see someone streaming a game like this and get through levels not because of some miraculous ability to always get frame-perfect moves but through careful logic and lots of patience.
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« Reply #148 on: December 05, 2016, 07:15:15 pm »
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I watched a few random CarlSagan videos on YouTube, and I'm now suckered into the long series where he keeps playing "one more" level by Kanade, aka "this Japanese girl with huge glasses". It's kind of nice to see someone streaming a game like this and get through levels not because of some miraculous ability to always get frame-perfect moves but through careful logic and lots of patience.

Yeah, that series was amazing. Also, it turned out that maker had copied all her levels from other people and has since been banned.
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« Reply #149 on: December 05, 2016, 07:37:15 pm »
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Aww :(
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« Reply #150 on: December 06, 2016, 11:24:29 am »
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I made my first level! Not counting one stupid one that I made and uploaded when I first got the game just to play around with it. I'd delete that one now but somehow it has 2 stars. Anyway: https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/courses/5E6B-0000-02C9-D0D9.

It's one of those short but hard levels. Feels like it would just take WAY too long to actually build a full-length / longer level. This one is at the high-end of my own skill level; so I don't expect the average play to be able to beat it. Let me know what you think!
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« Reply #151 on: December 06, 2016, 04:34:26 pm »
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I don't expect to make many levels though.
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« Reply #152 on: December 06, 2016, 07:28:44 pm »
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I did it again!

Tower Ascent - D8AF-0000-027C-DF0A

Something I'm pretty pleased with in this stage is that every section has multiple ways through. Usually there's an alternate faster method than the obvious way through. Some sections even have 3 or more ways. This also applies to the mini Rube Goldberg machine at the end, which can do one of three different things depending on how you end the level (well potentially more if you jump over the end goal and mess with the machine itself, but... yeah).

Anyway I'm going to go play JSH's level now.

Just got world record on this!  :D Good level.

I wasn't as much a fan of Bowser Escort Mission. He's just so random, I gave up after several attempts where he just wouldn't ever jump to the right places.
Also beat Donald X's level.
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« Reply #153 on: December 13, 2016, 05:01:45 pm »
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What happened to Drab anyway? No posts for a long time. This thread isn't dead is it?  :(
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« Reply #154 on: January 07, 2017, 11:30:57 am »
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I've made a few more levels now. Man this thread is dead.  >:(

Also, I finished every Sean Hip one screen puzzle! They're so amazing.
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« Reply #155 on: March 28, 2017, 02:55:59 pm »
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Made another level a couple days ago. Another hard one, of course.

Anyone here still playing?
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« Reply #156 on: March 28, 2017, 06:05:52 pm »
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Made another level a couple days ago. Another hard one, of course.

Anyone here still playing?
Rarely. Been busy running my restaurant in Hyrule.
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« Reply #157 on: March 28, 2017, 06:10:16 pm »
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Rarely. Been busy running my restaurant in Hyrule.
I know that place. The simmered fruit is amazing.
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« Reply #158 on: March 28, 2017, 08:23:39 pm »
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Rarely. Been busy running my restaurant in Hyrule.
I know that place. The simmered fruit is amazing.
And incredibly healthy. The fried wild greens are even better, though.
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« Reply #159 on: February 20, 2019, 11:28:36 am »
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I could make a new thread, but I don't want to see this thread die anyway....

So Mario Maker 2 was finally announced!!

I'm so very hyped. Although I don't play a lot of Mario Maker these days, I still spend a lot of time watching a bunch of different streamers play it.

This will make me go out and buy a Switch within the next few months. I just can't wait to see all the new stuff.

I'm mostly curious about the modes of game play and options for level sharing; because those were the worst parts of Mario Maker 1. I mean, even with just 2-3 new types of items, the creative creators out there would be able to make huge numbers of new levels and ideas. So what matters even more than "so many new items/enemies" to me is how they are going to make it so that you can find and play good levels in a fun and challenging mode.
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« Reply #160 on: February 20, 2019, 01:07:42 pm »
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Yeah, after stopping playing Mario Maker for several years, I actually picked it back up again in July last year and became super addicted. I'm super excited for MM2 and I'm probably going to take a few days off work when it comes out just to have more time to play. I've already got some sections of levels mentally mapped out.

The new stuff they've revealed suggests to me that they're actually listening to the community (slopes, new backgrounds, camera manipulation, on/off blocks, etc.). Hopefully that means that they'll fix things like restarting from checkpoints vs. restarting the whole level (though for troll levels, this would make anti soft locks no longer a thing), getting i-frames when switching between edit and play mode, being able to test interactions with checkpoints in from the editor, etc.

I am also interested in how level accessibility will change. I find it annoying that if I see a cool level on youtube that I want to play, I have to actually write down the level code rather than just search the name of the level or creator. I can't force myself to play through 100-mans because most of the levels are just so bad that I don't get any entertainment value out of it. I'm not sure how they can fix that; if they make star rating matter more, there's more of a positive feedback problem (no pun intended) for new level designers, but if they make it matter less, you see worse levels more often. CarlSagan42 suggested it would be cool if you could tag levels, and then say something like "I want to do a 100-man with only puzzle levels" or whatever.
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« Reply #161 on: February 20, 2019, 08:06:44 pm »
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Just uploaded a level, in case anyone's still playing:
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That's probably my last until MM2 comes out.
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« Reply #162 on: February 21, 2019, 10:08:51 am »
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Survival mini-games? Not sure when I'll have time to play, but I'm in!

Also, to make it easier for people, https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/courses/591B-0000-03D8-CCD0

A bunch of your other ones look right up my alley as well.
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« Reply #163 on: February 21, 2019, 01:13:43 pm »
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After the announcement, I did go back to try my hand at some more 100-Mario runs. Oh man, so much garbage.

I'm OK at Mario games, but here's the problem I have. The "Hard" setting is a mix of Expert levels that haven't become Expert yet, bullshit instakill levels, and maybe one good level per run. The "Medium" setting is a mix of trivially easy levels and auto-win levels that must have snuck out of "Easy" because people skip them? Or maybe all levels start in medium before collecting statistics? Anyway, again, I tend to find one good level and 15 terrible ones. It's just so awful.

Here are a few thoughts I have. First, if I star a level, I want to see other levels that people who liked this level also like. I mean ostensibly Netflix, Amazon, etc. have algorithms that do this, right? Nintendo needs to get their act together here.

Second, every level should be tested by the server to see if it can be beaten by 1) doing nothing, 2) holding down the right directional button, or 3) holding down the Y button and the right directional button. I do not want to "play" these levels! If I wanted to watch a complex Mario-Goldberg machine, I'd go on YouTube. Put these levels (and all music levels) in their own category for people who want to see them.

I would be willing to occasionally play 10 random levels to help the algorithm sift through the new trash if it meant that I could usually play through 10 levels and like 8 or 9 of them.



OK, rant over. I'm also very excited about Super Mario Maker 2. So much cool new stuff! The one caveat is it's disappointing that so many things seem to be locked to the new Super Mario 3D World mode. I mean I love Super Mario 3D World and I'll likely be making some levels in that style, but I really hope they translate more of that stuff into the other modes before release. Though I also wonder if this somehow signals that the older modes will also be truer to their games. Will you be able to prevent players from moving left in SMB1 mode, for instance? Will you no longer be able to jump high off of enemies in SMB1? Probably these will be anachronistic like in Mario Maker 1, but it's a thought I had. Will SMB1 mode not have slopes?

Things I'm most looking forward to include scriptable autoscrolling, water in non-underwater levels, and configurable goals (get 50 coins in this level, etc.).
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« Reply #164 on: March 13, 2019, 10:45:29 pm »
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Just uploaded a level, in case anyone's still playing:
591b 0000 03d8 ccd0
That's probably my last until MM2 comes out.

First clear!

Great level; quite difficult. You managed to beat all 7 of those without a checkpoint; 3 times? Impressive.

The fire and the saw/conveyer were the hardest. Most of the obstacles were really cool and unique. The boot section is completely cheesable. You can stand on top of a sideways one-way, and just wait the timer out. Don’t even need the boot. The mushroom section was my favorite.

Your shell game level was awesome as well. Great concept. Shame that it’s impossible to do it in a random way, so that if you lose a later level, you can just use memorization to beat the previous ones the next time. I got super lucky on the final one; I only eliminated one option through tracking, and just got a random 1/4 chance and was right.

Trying to do the puzzle level... stuck. Haven’t tried the second room yet, but I wouldn’t mind a small hint on the first room. Our thoughts so far...

- guessing the ice blocks at the top aren’t a clue, but are just showing the 5 objects that we're dealing with.

- either the 2 rows of question mark blocks are a hint to how to rad the other 9 rows, or the other 9 rows are a hint of how to read the 2 question mark block rows.

- unsure if it’s specificlaly 3 sets of 3, or just 9 rows arranged that way for best visibility.

- we’ve eliminated looking at which object appears the most in each position, as well as which position each object appears in the most. Also eliminated finding objects that only appear once in a position, or objects that are never in a position.
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« Reply #165 on: March 14, 2019, 07:31:33 pm »
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Glad you liked them!

The boot section is completely cheesable. You can stand on top of a sideways one-way, and just wait the timer out. Don’t even need the boot.

Yeah, I noticed the boot room was cheesable after I uploaded, and didn't want to re-upload. I think you actually found a different cheese than I did; I noticed you can just bounce on the bumper repeatedly without ever going through the one-ways. I worked so hard at de-cheesing that room in other ways that I missed some obvious stuff. I'm not actually sure the concept can be done in a non-cheesable way...

- unsure if it’s specificlaly 3 sets of 3, or just 9 rows arranged that way for best visibility.

Answer to this: They are 3 sets of 3.                                                                 

Related hint (guessing this will be enough for you to solve it, though it may still take some effort): Each set can be thought of as 2 rows of input followed by 1 row of output.

Also,
- guessing the ice blocks at the top aren’t a clue, but are just showing the 5 objects that we're dealing with.
it's been a while since I made the level so I'd have to look back at it to be sure, but I think the stuff in the ice blocks are an important part of the clue, but they are "distinct" in some way from the rest of the stuff.

I think you're getting stuck on those things means I didn't communicate some stuff as clearly as I had hoped. Let me know if you need more hints!
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« Reply #166 on: March 15, 2019, 09:43:50 pm »
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Lol thought that repeatedly bouncing off of the bumper was the intended strat; I see now that it’s much harder; to repeatedly bounce in and out of the boot over the flames.

Still stuck one room one! Given your hint, I figured that each set being a 5-digit math equation made a lot of sense... but there don’t appear to be any possible digits that each item could be to make either addition or subtraction work. Also, it would be a big coincidence that each row has exactly one of each item if it were something like that.

Should each row be read as a whole unit? Or is each column it’s own individual hint?  Um, any other hint you can give without just giving it away? Is it math-related?
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« Reply #167 on: March 16, 2019, 12:15:10 pm »
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Lol thought that repeatedly bouncing off of the bumper was the intended strat; I see now that it’s much harder; to repeatedly bounce in and out of the boot over the flames.

Still stuck one room one! Given your hint, I figured that each set being a 5-digit math equation made a lot of sense... but there don’t appear to be any possible digits that each item could be to make either addition or subtraction work. Also, it would be a big coincidence that each row has exactly one of each item if it were something like that.

Should each row be read as a whole unit? Or is each column it’s own individual hint?  Um, any other hint you can give without just giving it away? Is it math-related?

Each row is its own unit. It is indeed math related. Specifically (this may give it away depending on your background) group theory related, though I think it's still reasonable to solve without having run across the group theory concept before. I guess I could say that it's math-related, but there are not really any numbers involved.

The observation that each row has exactly one item is significant, as you guessed. If I have more time later, I may post other sets of 3 rows to give you additional information. I think 3 sets of 3 rows might have been too few.
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« Reply #168 on: March 17, 2019, 05:31:48 pm »
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Either the puzzle is super hard, or I’m not as smart as I thought. I have some basic understanding of group theory, though it has been a long time since I took abstract algebra. but it doesn’t seem to help. Problem is, items aren’t generally in a particular order in a mathematical group, are they? So reordering them, as what seems to be happening here, doesn’t really make sense to me. The closest thing I can get is the concept of permutation groups, but there doesn’t appear to be any consistent function used there.
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« Reply #169 on: March 19, 2019, 10:33:01 pm »
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permutation groups

I think the level must communicate stuff way worse than I thought, because this is basically it. I'm not sure I can give any more hints without just giving away the answer.

Sorry for making it so hard; hopefully the other room is better.
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« Reply #170 on: March 20, 2019, 01:59:53 pm »
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I gave the level a shot as well. In an earlier time in my life, I think it would have maybe been a cool challenge. Right now I don't have hours of time to throw at something that hard. I finished one or two of the challenges, and didn't try them all. But I couldn't justify spending any more of my very scant free time on it.

I could tell that a lot of craftsmanship went into it, though. It's very well made.
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« Reply #171 on: March 20, 2019, 10:13:32 pm »
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permutation groups

I think the level must communicate stuff way worse than I thought, because this is basically it. I'm not sure I can give any more hints without just giving away the answer.

Sorry for making it so hard; hopefully the other room is better.

Solved the first room! Yeah, you're right, you don't really need to know group theory to solve it. You just have to realize the pattern. The main thing that really made it extra tough was not considering the original order (given in ice blocks) as part of every set of 3. That, and not having any distinction between the first 2 rows and the 3rd; letting you know that the 3rd was the "answer", and the first 2 told you how to turn the start (the ice block order) into the result (the 3rd row).

So if you wanted to make something a little more accessible; it could help just to distinguish the parts a little more. But the thing with puzzles is that you really need a lot of different people to check them out in order to know how hard they are. A given thing could take one person, even someone who is good at puzzles, a super long time to figure out. While something that you might think is really hard could turn out to be much easier. I've seen a lot of stuff like this doing the "Exit" games; one of the puzzles I spent the longest on could have easily been done super quickly, if you just happened to notice one little thing.

So.... um, any hint on room 2? Not really sure where to start lol. Though It seems very likely that just like room 1, you have 3 "samples" that show you how the equation works; and then 4th one where the answer is missing. I figured out that the width of each box is the same as the number of items in it... the largest one having 6 items and being 6 blocks wide. But I don't know if that's actually important at all; or just a good way to hold items. I was figuring that likely the 1, 2, or 3 is the number of times you apply some thing to end up with the answer. We couldn't figure out though if the 6 ice boxes are arranged in a specific pattern; is it specifically 2 columns of 3 boxes each? The fact that 2 of the boxes are identical seems to suggest that at least the position matters; otherwise why bother having another box that's the same?
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« Reply #172 on: May 17, 2019, 12:25:05 pm »
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Can't wait!
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Can't wait!

Never had Mario maker, but this game looks amazing. I don't play many console games, but I think this might be my next one
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« Reply #174 on: May 19, 2019, 10:22:15 am »
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Can't wait!

Never had Mario maker, but this game looks amazing. I don't play many console games, but I think this might be my next one

Yeah I don’t play many either, but Mario Maker 1 made me buy a Wii U, and 2 is making me buy a Switch.
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