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Captain Photon

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(New?) Turn 3 Province!
« on: January 08, 2012, 06:30:07 pm »
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Not a secret or anything, but I open Watchtower/tunnel, you open militia/silver and go first.

turn 3 i draw copper/copper/estate/watchtower/tunnel, eww gross.

You play militia, i discard tunnel/estate, reveal tunnel gain gold, reveal watchtower, put it on top of my deck.

my turn three i have watchtower/copper/copper, play watchtower, draw gold/copper/copper/copper

i buy province
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Re: (New?) Turn 3 Province!
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2012, 06:33:49 pm »
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If you're smart, you buy gold...
But also, there are many known turn 3 province things. There's a whole thread...

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Re: (New?) Turn 3 Province!
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2012, 09:01:13 pm »
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If you're smart, you buy gold...
But also, there are many known turn 3 province things. There's a whole thread...

Link?
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Re: (New?) Turn 3 Province!
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2012, 09:38:29 pm »
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Re: (New?) Turn 3 Province!
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2012, 01:08:35 am »
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I do feel that the thread is a bit out dated now, since it's possible to get a Province turn 2.
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Re: (New?) Turn 3 Province!
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2012, 01:27:02 pm »
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Is this somewhere in the puzzle thread? I can figure out how to do it in a 4p game without much difficulty, but not in a 2p game.
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Re: (New?) Turn 3 Province!
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2012, 02:32:50 pm »
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Is this somewhere in the puzzle thread? I can figure out how to do it in a 4p game without much difficulty, but not in a 2p game.

I'm sure there's other solutions, but:

Player 1 draws 4 Copper, 1 Estate.
Player 2 draws 4 Copper, 1 Estate.

- Turn 1 -
Player 1 plays 4 Copper and buys a Noble Brigand.
Player 2 reveals 2 Estate, discarding both and gaining a Copper.
Player 1 draws 3 Copper, 2 Estate.

Player 2 plays 4 Copper and buys an Envoy.
Player 2 draws 3 Copper, reshuffles, draws Envoy and 1 Copper.

- Turn 2 -
Player 1 does something; doesn't matter.

Player 2 plays Envoy, revealing 4 Copper and 1 Estate.
Player 1 discards 1 Estate from the revealed cards.
Player 2 puts 4 Copper into his hand.
Player 2 plays 8 Copper and buys a Province.
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Re: (New?) Turn 3 Province!
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2012, 02:47:50 pm »
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The exact same sequence replacing Envoy with Coppersmith would also work.

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Re: (New?) Turn 3 Province!
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2012, 06:15:25 pm »
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The exact same sequence replacing Envoy with Coppersmith would also work.

And wouldn't rely so much on collaborative play from one's opponent.  (While buying a Noble Brigand turn 1 is arguably dumb, it's not as clearly playing-to-lose as is making your opponent discard an Estate from 4x Copper, 1x Estate off an Envoy draw).
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Re: (New?) Turn 3 Province!
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2012, 06:39:27 pm »
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Open Fool's Gold/Fool's Gold, draw them with 3 Coppers.
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Re: (New?) Turn 3 Province!
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2012, 06:44:07 pm »
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The exact same sequence replacing Envoy with Coppersmith would also work.

And wouldn't rely so much on collaborative play from one's opponent.  (While buying a Noble Brigand turn 1 is arguably dumb, it's not as clearly playing-to-lose as is making your opponent discard an Estate from 4x Copper, 1x Estate off an Envoy draw).

I had an opponent recently make me discard a Tunnel from Envoy. :D
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Re: (New?) Turn 3 Province!
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2012, 10:22:18 am »
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Turn 2 requires some opponent help.

There are probably a handful of ways to get one with good shuffle luck on turn 3 and no opponent interaction.
Baron/Silver, draw Baron, Silver, Copper, Copper, Estate is what I came up with quickly to add to the double fool's gold.
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Re: (New?) Turn 3 Province!
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2012, 07:29:04 pm »
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That is true, if you consider your opponent opening NB as help you. Otherwise we all know you can nevery buy something worth more than 5 with your first two hands.
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Re: (New?) Turn 3 Province!
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2012, 09:33:46 pm »
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That is true, if you consider your opponent opening NB as help you. Otherwise we all know you can nevery buy something worth more than 5 with your first two hands.
Unless you open Platinum/Platinum http://councilroom.com/game?game_id=game-20110210-131456-d0bf5b5e.html
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Re: (New?) Turn 3 Province!
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2012, 08:39:32 am »
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Unless you open Platinum/Platinum http://councilroom.com/game?game_id=game-20110210-131456-d0bf5b5e.html

Wow. Was that a giant bug or was there some otehr shenanigans going on?
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Re: (New?) Turn 3 Province!
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2012, 09:44:39 am »
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Unless you open Platinum/Platinum http://councilroom.com/game?game_id=game-20110210-131456-d0bf5b5e.html

Wow. Was that a giant bug or was there some otehr shenanigans going on?

Kind of revolutionizes the Big Money strategy, doesn't it?
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Re: (New?) Turn 3 Province!
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2012, 11:06:34 am »
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Unless you open Platinum/Platinum http://councilroom.com/game?game_id=game-20110210-131456-d0bf5b5e.html

Wow. Was that a giant bug or was there some otehr shenanigans going on?
http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=1181.0

We start talking about it most of the way down the first page; basically he was cheating.
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