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JSH's True Art Rankings
« on: August 11, 2015, 12:53:21 pm »
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Many years ago, a great man began a project that would revolutionize our view and understanding of Dominion. He spent countless hours writing about various cards, putting himself out there and hoping only for the respect and toleration of his peers. That man's name was theory, and without him, Dominion Strategy may well never have existed. Let's give him a hand. Not a literal one, though. Ew.

But enough about that guy. Last summer, I began a thread that sought to rank all of the Dominion cards by the quality of their art. Everything started off well enough, but little known fact: by that time, I had already joined the playtester group for Dominion: Adventures. Why did I start a ranking thread, knowing full well that there would one day be more cards to rank? What kind of lunatic would make life harder on himself like that? Apparently this guy. Anyway, eventually the weight of the project got to be too much. Aside from turbulent scenarios on my own life making it harder to care about ranking art, the futility of the whole thing got to be too much once the expansion started nearing release. But then I got to thinking: I could make the project less of an ordeal for myself by simply posting one card a day, sticking to one expansion at a time, and not adhering to a stupid gimmick in my write-ups every post. Sure, it could take a mammoth amount of days, but it would also be easier for everyone, most importantly myself.

At the end of each expansion, a ranking of the overall art cohesion and my perceived quality will appear. I will be keeping numerical scores of each picture private, but will show the 'average' number in those posts. The Promos and Base Cards will have their own separate expansion, and box art/mat art/etc will be evaluated with the expansion they belong in.

As an aside, a common complaint in the last ranking thread was that I was judging the quality of art by how it appeared on the card and not in high-res pictures seen online. In order to continue being a troll to these types of nitpickers I am going to continue judging the art by how it appears on the cards. That is the medium the art is intended to be seen in, and as such it will be in my mind.

As a final note, I want to get this out there to any Dominion artists who happen upon the thread. As an artist, I'm sure you understand the concept of subjectivity and hope you won't take offense if I happen to place a picture you drew lower on the list. This stuff is your work that you put sweat and tears into and I have no intention of putting you down for it. I've been there. Besides, even some art I dislike is loved by others. Also, I am in no way a professional art critic and actually have no clue what I'm talking about! Teehee!

As a true final note because I'm a liar, these rankings are not going to match up with the previous list. Times change, people change, art changes. Even war has changed.
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Re: JSH's True Art Rankings
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2015, 01:01:42 pm »
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PART ONE: THE BASE SET

This is where it all began. The base set was composed of cards, most simple, some moderately complex, and the art reflects that, only substituting complexity for prettiness.

25. Smithy



There are two men here, one holding an anvil while the other pounds it. The dwarven smith, with his misshapen face and enormous fingers, looks like something out of a fairy tale. Some say Dominion had no fantasy roots until Alchemy, but here it is. Those people had also never heard of Witch. Something about the details on the two men's skin has always rubbed me the wrong way in this art, but it's hard to describe as a layperson. Yes, the anvil holder seems muscular, but he also appears to be made of marble, ill fitting the darkness of the forge the two reside in. Today is the first day I noticed the smith is wearing a green hat. Go me. The anvil (or is it an axe head?) is drawn a bit crookedly, I think. Whatever the minor details are, at the end of the day this art doesn't please me particularly. I always feel like I'm losing fashion points by adding it to my deck. Let's get out of here before these two start looking at me funny.
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Re: JSH's True Art Rankings
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2015, 01:04:32 pm »
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Keep it up, jsh. Just a few more card rankings on f.DS and I can finally post my card ranking ranking.
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Re: JSH's True Art Rankings
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2015, 01:11:24 pm »
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Man, you already ruined it. 25 should be council room, did you not learn anything from last time? I can't take this ranking seriously anymore.
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Re: JSH's True Art Rankings
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2015, 01:30:22 pm »
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Oh Yes! Oh Yes! He's back.

Have you already seen the summon event card art in "HD" or in IRL? The pixelated image on the wiki can't be a reference for the true promo and base card art ranking.
Do you both rank, the primary base cards and the fancy reworked ones with new illustrations?
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Re: JSH's True Art Rankings
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2015, 01:38:28 pm »
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Oh Yes! Oh Yes! He's back.

Have you already seen the summon event card art in "HD" or in IRL? The pixelated image on the wiki can't be a reference for the true promo and base card art ranking.
Do you both rank, the primary base cards and the fancy reworked ones with new illustrations?

By the time I get to promos, the card will certainly be out. I will be looking at the old base card art for the base set, but the pretty base cards art when I get to Base Cards.
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Re: JSH's True Art Rankings
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2015, 02:22:54 pm »
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Even war has changed.

+1 for Fallout reference.
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Re: JSH's True Art Rankings
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2015, 02:33:58 pm »
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Oh Yes! Oh Yes! He's back.

Have you already seen the summon event card art in "HD" or in IRL? The pixelated image on the wiki can't be a reference for the true promo and base card art ranking.
Do you both rank, the primary base cards and the fancy reworked ones with new illustrations?

By the time I get to promos, the card will certainly be out. I will be looking at the old base card art for the base set, but the pretty base cards art when I get to Base Cards.

By the time you get to the Promos, there will probably be another expansion out to deal with first.
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Re: JSH's True Art Rankings
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2015, 02:36:21 pm »
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Re: JSH's True Art Rankings
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2015, 03:03:03 pm »
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24. Chancellor



Chancellor's art is clearly flawed. It seems a little rushed or sketchy, especially in the coat area. One could argue that the card is intended to be goofy-looking, but the image strikes me as unintentionally goofy. There is enough detail on the face, particularly its butt chin, to suggest our favorite cycler was meant to seem like a stern and grumpy man in an old time portrait. Instead, he looks like a guy being forced to poorly cosplay a university professor at graduation. His hat was probably fashionable back in the day, but I think we can all agree he looks like a tool now. So how is this worse than Council Room? Well, it's true that Council Room has a fatal flaw in perspective, but at least it might take you a while to notice that. The Chancellor just looks ridiculous from the get-go.
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Re: JSH's True Art Rankings
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2015, 06:42:19 pm »
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At least the two men printed on the Smithy card are bearded men (without visible butt chin). The smithy even wears four tight fitting golden rings, which ensure nice vertical mustache style by gravity force. I would have ranked Chancellor on 25. ;)
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Re: JSH's True Art Rankings
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2015, 07:14:42 pm »
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A smithy is a place. The person who works there is called a smith.

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Re: JSH's True Art Rankings
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2015, 10:32:29 pm »
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Chancellor: Testes or a chin?  You decide!
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« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2015, 01:40:22 pm »
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Re: JSH's True Art Rankings
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2015, 03:09:36 pm »
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23. Woodcutter



Sometimes I think if I stare hard enough, maybe this picture makes sense. Actually, I did some thinking on this not long ago, and I guess it's possible that someone came along and started cutting the tree, then went out on lunch break, and then these two saps showed up and started cutting a new wound. I don't know if the average person wants to go to those lengths to defend the canon of Dominion card art backstories. Instead, I'm just going to assume the artist didn't think this through all the way. As a side note, I wonder if the woodcutter on the right is related to the smith's assistant from Smithy. Maybe they coordinate baldness and beards.
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Re: JSH's True Art Rankings
« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2015, 08:05:32 am »
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I actually think it looks pretty okay, but you're right they're cutting the tree in a slightly roundabout way..
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« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2015, 08:24:35 am »
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Man, that art is actually pretty bad.
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« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2015, 08:36:02 am »
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It makes more sense when you realize they're scraping vertically, not sawing horizontally.
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« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2015, 03:20:53 pm »
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22. Council Room



Despite what some think, Dominion is a very socially progressive game. Here we see that the Council Room has chairs of various sizes; trolls, dwarves, and men of all shapes and sizes can unite to discuss council. There's no human height privilege here. From a distance, this card looks like a chocolate bar. If you don't believe me, try looking at it for yourself. Jokes aside, perspective is the only thing that actually ruins this picture for me, but it's hard not to notice once you're aware of the issue. Boy, these terminal draw cards are unfashionable. It's almost like the artists don't want me to win.


21. Festival



Festival doesn't have a terrible picture, but it's not an inspiring one either. While the perspective work is better than on Council Room, somehow the elf looks too big in relation to what he's standing in front of. On the bright side, there's some nice variety in color here that keeps Festival out of the bottom four. Geez, that elf has quite the noggin. I'm not sure I'd be paying this con artist to get in to this particular festival. There's some kind of street fight going on inside, and a cop standing by to let it happen. Then again, maybe that's not so different from real life.
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« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2015, 09:27:32 pm »
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Boy, have you seen the Festival and Fairgrounds pictures in Dominion Times this morning? Where would you like to go?

Yeah, let's go to the Festival. There are giant colorful elves.
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« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2015, 02:36:50 am »
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Jsh, sometimes you have to eat your veggies before you can eat desert.
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« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2015, 02:45:46 pm »
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Jsh, sometimes you have to eat your veggies before you can eat desert.
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« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2015, 03:14:06 pm »
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20. Remodel



You know what they say. A card doesn't have to look bad to rank this low; it could just be ho-hum. Remodel is some sketch on a piece of paper with some okay lighting work, nothing more, nothing less. I'm sure there are Remodel fanboys out there who will disagree with me, but I'm not giving the thing a merit award for doing an adequate job. I think the real question is, who is 'they' and why do they say all that?
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« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2015, 03:29:05 pm »
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I'm sure there are Remodel fanboys out there who will disagree with me

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« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2015, 06:26:56 pm »
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The candlestick holder is impressively done although I suspect CGI being used for it.
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« Reply #26 on: August 17, 2015, 04:36:52 pm »
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19. Militia



Two of the least fashionable guys in Dominion art right here, folks. Sure, the one guy has a nice beard, but wearing his fur coat thing over a red shirt is a fashion no-no right up there with blue polka dots before Colombus Day. Also, having your fur hang in uneven lengths over your chest is like the popped collar of the middle ages. His balding friend fares no better with his ugly scale armor and his blade blends in so weirdly with the armor that he appears to have left his weapon behind. Edit: Actually, holy cow, I am seeing an optical illusion. He's not carrying his blade. Someone should probably send this Miltia to a support group before they go spreading their bad taste all over the kingdom.
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« Reply #27 on: August 18, 2015, 09:31:22 am »
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23. Woodcutter
Sometimes I think if I stare hard enough, maybe this picture makes sense. Actually, I did some thinking on this not long ago, and I guess it's possible that someone came along and started cutting the tree, then went out on lunch break, and then these two saps showed up and started cutting a new wound. I don't know if the average person wants to go to those lengths to defend the canon of Dominion card art backstories. Instead, I'm just going to assume the artist didn't think this through all the way.

So has anyone round here cut down a tree that size?

If someone who had cut down a tree that big came up and told me that the best way to do it was to use you axes to strip of the bark and outer layer of wood and then get out you two-man saw ... I might well be inclined to believe them.

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« Reply #28 on: August 18, 2015, 12:32:11 pm »
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So has anyone round here cut down a tree that size?

If someone who had cut down a tree that big came up and told me that the best way to do it was to use you axes to strip of the bark and outer layer of wood and then get out you two-man saw ... I might well be inclined to believe them.

That's what these people do.





I don't know for sure why the bark gets stripped first, but I do know that bark contains dirt, and dirt dulls saw blades much faster than wood, so maybe that's why.
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« Reply #29 on: August 18, 2015, 12:39:36 pm »
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The sad thing is that, no matter how accurate or inaccurate the depiction is, they still look ugly doing it.
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« Reply #30 on: August 18, 2015, 01:19:20 pm »
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Philosoraptor: If Woodcutter is singular, why does its art depict two people?
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« Reply #31 on: August 18, 2015, 01:33:43 pm »
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Philosoraptor: If Woodcutter is singular, why does its art depict two people?

I could be using the noun as a classification.

Are we human, or are we woodcutter?
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« Reply #32 on: August 18, 2015, 02:02:10 pm »
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The bark strip that they made is a horrendous diagonal mess, and they started sawing into it way too low. Soon the guy on the left will be sawing through bark anyway. There's a reason these people work all day, then barely muster two coin and a buy.
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« Reply #33 on: August 18, 2015, 04:01:19 pm »
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18. Market



Here's another case of 'well, it's not bad, but it's not that great either.' To the picture's credit, there's a lot of detail here, and I'd certainly put this one a tier above the previous listed cards. Take a look at the old guy, second from the left, though. Is that not the most disturbing gentleman seen on any Dominion card? He looks like a Sith lord or some kind of dark wizard just casually browsing this innocent market.
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« Reply #34 on: August 18, 2015, 05:54:37 pm »
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Take a look at the old guy, second from the left, though. Is that not the most disturbing gentleman seen on any Dominion card? He looks like a Sith lord or some kind of dark wizard just casually browsing this innocent market.

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« Reply #35 on: August 19, 2015, 12:43:05 pm »
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Thank you so much for starting this up again.  It was a big favorite of mine when you were doing it earlier. 

In regard to Smithy, I have to say that when I look at it, it really worries me that someone is going to cut something off that they would prefer to keep.  Shouldn't you be hammering on the axe with it laying flat on the anvil rather than standing up like that?  If he hits that axe head a little too far to the right, the guy holding it may get his beard shaved and more.  I don't think OSHA would be in favor of doing the job this way.
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« Reply #36 on: August 19, 2015, 01:15:09 pm »
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Thank you so much for starting this up again.  It was a big favorite of mine when you were doing it earlier. 

In regard to Smithy, I have to say that when I look at it, it really worries me that someone is going to cut something off that they would prefer to keep.  Shouldn't you be hammering on the axe with it laying flat on the anvil rather than standing up like that?  If he hits that axe head a little too far to the right, the guy holding it may get his beard shaved and more.  I don't think OSHA would be in favor of doing the job this way.

You've clearly never studied basic axe construction. An axe handle has a thin groove cut down the middle of the handle (bridle joint) at the end where the head is installed. After the head is placed onto the handle a wedge is driven into the groove to secure the head onto the handle. It would be near impossible to perform this installation with the axe upside down.
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« Reply #37 on: August 19, 2015, 04:26:33 pm »
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17. Moneylender



The Moneylender is dressed appropriately and takes his job very seriously. Volumes of literature adorn his shelves, and the candle indicates he works deep into the night. There's nothing wrong with the way he looks, but he could stand to get a better hat if he plans on winning this pageant. It's also difficult to make out what he's writing there. I guess the folks borrowing money are still getting to keep it off public record hundreds of years down the road. What's funny is you could probably swap this card art on to something like "Scholar" or "Taxman" or "Accountant" or "Hot Air Balloon" and nobody could tell the difference.
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« Reply #38 on: August 19, 2015, 07:15:16 pm »
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It's also difficult to make out what he's writing there.

Looks like sudoku.
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« Reply #39 on: August 19, 2015, 09:46:30 pm »
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It's also difficult to make out what he's writing there.

Looks like sudoku.

Or many many solitaire games of Tic-Tac-Toe.
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« Reply #40 on: August 19, 2015, 10:01:30 pm »
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It's also difficult to make out what he's writing there.

Looks like sudoku.

Or many many solitaire games of Tic-Tac-Toe.
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« Reply #41 on: August 19, 2015, 10:10:54 pm »
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It's also difficult to make out what he's writing there.

Looks like sudoku.

Or many many solitaire games of Tic-Tac-Toe.
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« Reply #42 on: August 20, 2015, 12:13:25 am »
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« Reply #43 on: August 20, 2015, 06:52:38 pm »
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16. Chapel



Just lookie here at this darlin' card. Ain't it symmetrical? Symmetrical as a baby's behind. Sorry about that; I come from the South. Something notable about this Chapel is that it's completely empty. Maybe the people have abandoned religion due to the dominance of Witches in their kingdoms. Maybe the artist took a snapshot on a weekday. It could be night; I'm not sure if the glass in the center is a window or stained glass. Well, either way let's keep the glass half full. I think all the pictures above this one are at least 'above average.' We're out of the lower tier now for this set of cards. Rejoice and gather; there's a whole empty Chapel here to do it in even.
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« Reply #44 on: August 20, 2015, 09:35:49 pm »
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It's stained glass.  You can see the colored light on the altar and floor.
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« Reply #45 on: August 21, 2015, 03:19:06 pm »
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15. Witch



How come there aren't warlocks in Dominion, huh? Only women get to be magical beings? I'm gonna start picketing right now. Well, in a while. I'll get back to you guys on that one. Here we see the return of the butt chin, but at least the Witch looks more sinister than the Chancellor did. Is she really? Who can say. I'd probably vote for her over that guy. I'm not sure why this lady is conjuring a cartoony yellow apple with fangs, but sometimes you have to stop asking questions and accept surreality.
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« Reply #47 on: August 21, 2015, 05:15:17 pm »
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Thank you so much for starting this up again.  It was a big favorite of mine when you were doing it earlier. 

In regard to Smithy, I have to say that when I look at it, it really worries me that someone is going to cut something off that they would prefer to keep.  Shouldn't you be hammering on the axe with it laying flat on the anvil rather than standing up like that?  If he hits that axe head a little too far to the right, the guy holding it may get his beard shaved and more.  I don't think OSHA would be in favor of doing the job this way.

You've clearly never studied basic axe construction. An axe handle has a thin groove cut down the middle of the handle (bridle joint) at the end where the head is installed. After the head is placed onto the handle a wedge is driven into the groove to secure the head onto the handle. It would be near impossible to perform this installation with the axe upside down.

I see the wedge now. Thanks for pointing that out. I always thought he was doing something to continue fashioning the blade. Either way, I would not want to be the guy holding it.
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« Reply #48 on: August 22, 2015, 04:02:00 pm »
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14. Cellar



With its dark blue, brown, and black hues, the Cellar's art can be tricky to make out on the printed cards. It's a nice little picture, but not a particular stand-out of its set. I do want to take a moment to comment on Catrein's style as long as we're on a boring picture here. You may have noticed he was the artist for nearly every picture in the set so far. (cut him some slack if some art is better than others, as he drew the overwhelming majority of art in the base set overall) In my humble opinion, Catrein's landscape and environmental art in Dominion is a lot more visually appealing and fitting than his drawings of humans and random objects ("still life" i guess), which is why you'll see more of that in the upper half here. I looked around at other art Catrein's done to see if that was consistent in all his work, but as far as I can tell it's only an issue in Dominion. I don't have a point to make here; all I'm saying is I like Cellar and Gardens a whole lot more than Chancellor and Militia. Perhaps you all have other opinions.
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« Reply #49 on: August 22, 2015, 04:57:04 pm »
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I actually like Militia quite a bit, one of the best of the Base Set IMHO.
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« Reply #50 on: August 23, 2015, 04:59:08 pm »
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13. Adventurer



The Adventurer has a cool map-reading pose, and he's gazing out at the mountains, implying an epic journey taking place. That mental image counts for a lot; it counts for enough to make Adventurer one of the nicer looking cards in the set. Considering only the technical details of the grass and rocks, proportions, and whatnot I'm not all that impressed with the picture, but concept wins out over the details here. It has a cartoonier style than other cards in the expansion, but also doesn't clash as much as Harem or Shanty Town in Intrigue. Blue is a nice color, isn't it? Blue, blue.
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« Reply #51 on: August 24, 2015, 11:33:28 am »
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I never noticed that awfully drawn grass. Now i can't unsee it. Either way, i would argue that Adventurer is much, much worse than Remodel or Chapel.

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« Reply #52 on: August 24, 2015, 04:23:48 pm »
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12. Spy



I think this spy started staking out the area a bit too early in the day. He blends in with the building well enough, but someone could easily see him up there. On the bright side, he looks pretty cool. It's funny how you won't notice little details even after already doing one card art list; I never noticed the spy was holding a rope. The gargoyle is a nice touch, too. This picture has come up a lot in my estimation.
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« Reply #53 on: August 24, 2015, 05:26:44 pm »
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I just noticed the wings of that stone creature and checked one of my physical cards. It's hardly visible, you have to know it.
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« Reply #54 on: August 25, 2015, 05:49:52 pm »
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11. Bureaucrat



You have to hand it to the B-crat, he makes the pink shirt work. This picture is apparently a self-portrait, and it seems fairly flattering, though I'm not sure why you'd want to paint yourself as a bureaucrat. I suppose it was difficult to find a good reference to work with. Look how cool this middle-management hipster is. Just emptily gazing around the room like he doesn't even care. I think this card art could easily be swapped around with the next three, for the record, but this is where I'm ranking it.


10. Gardens



Although Gardens has some of the same perspective issue seen on Council Room, in general it's a prettier picture so it gets more of a pass. The peacock is a nice little touch that adds some character, and what can I say, I enjoy looking at a clean garden. I suppose the picture is a little blurry, but that is less noticeable on the actual card.
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« Reply #55 on: August 26, 2015, 04:50:26 pm »
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The perspective issue doesn't bother me.  It's supposed to be, well, artistic.  :P
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« Reply #56 on: August 27, 2015, 03:00:23 pm »
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9. Moat



Bet you didn't see this one coming. I know I didn't because I hardly ever take the time to look at Moat's art, but it sure does look nice. The gray palette, while normally a bit dull, works here, giving the card a certain old-school vibe. I like the plants here a lot, which show this is a stronghold that has stood up long enough to have some weeds climbing the sides. The reflections in the water are maybe not entirely accurate, but show some thought on the part of the artist. Moat's art also works well with the Reaction Blue color scheme, which clashes with a few reactions down the road.

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« Reply #57 on: August 28, 2015, 10:39:45 pm »
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Chicken legs?  What chicken legs?  Did you put that just to see if people were paying attention?
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« Reply #58 on: August 28, 2015, 10:53:34 pm »
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Chicken legs?  What chicken legs?  Did you put that just to see if people were paying attention?

They are hanging next to the lamp
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« Reply #59 on: August 28, 2015, 11:29:11 pm »
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Chicken legs?  What chicken legs?  Did you put that just to see if people were paying attention?

They are hanging next to the lamp

There are no chicken legs in that picture.
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« Reply #60 on: August 28, 2015, 11:32:03 pm »
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7. Library



We have reached the cream of the base set crop. All of the card art from this point is stuff I'd rank with the best overall. The library seen here is loaded with books, and even though all of the diagonal ones look the same, it seems individual care was given to the detail of most of the books by the artist. A nice tile floor, grand pillars, and fine mahogany give the library a grand feeling worthy of its creative combo potential.
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« Reply #61 on: August 29, 2015, 11:56:18 pm »
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Chicken legs?  What chicken legs?  Did you put that just to see if people were paying attention?

They are hanging next to the lamp

There are no chicken legs in that picture.

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Yay for Library!

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« Reply #63 on: August 30, 2015, 03:01:58 pm »
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6. Feast



It's the final Catrein card art for Base; he had quite the range of selections. Although I will say these aren't my favorite looking people in Dominion art, I think the artist did a good job depicting a joyous feast. Everyone's having a good time here, all the women are looking at the back of the room, and the front of the table cloth looks like legs in a pair of white pants. They're going to be very disappointed when this Feast turns in to a highway and another beautiful building falls victim to urban development.
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« Reply #64 on: August 30, 2015, 07:06:46 pm »
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Chicken legs?  What chicken legs?  Did you put that just to see if people were paying attention?

They are hanging next to the lamp
That is a vest.
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« Reply #65 on: August 30, 2015, 07:19:54 pm »
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Chicken legs?  What chicken legs?  Did you put that just to see if people were paying attention?

They are hanging next to the lamp
That is a vest.

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« Reply #66 on: August 30, 2015, 07:21:27 pm »
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Chicken legs?  What chicken legs?  Did you put that just to see if people were paying attention?

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That is a vest.

Why would someone wear a vest made of chicken legs?
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« Reply #67 on: August 31, 2015, 03:35:10 pm »
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5. Village



The nature of this card makes it an iconic part of the Dominion experience, so it's nice that there's some good art to back Village up. It's neat that the artist chose to focus on the traveler's journey to an upcoming village rather than the village itself. This adds a sense of life and reality to the card. I am a bit confused by the split path beneath the traveler's horse, though. Is this a road for gnomes and brownies traveling to and from the village? Is the pictured traveler actually a giant heading toward a munchkin village that is not actually in the distance? Am I just messing with you people who take everything I write at face value?
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« Reply #68 on: August 31, 2015, 04:39:01 pm »
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Split path is caused by a horse walking down the middle pulling a wagon with two wheel making the paths on each side.
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« Reply #69 on: August 31, 2015, 06:46:59 pm »
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But why do they merge to one wide single path? Maybe they lead from different villages to vanilla village, right?

Take a look at the no-head-shadow on the left, the horse blankets are transparent for sunlight.
Nevertheless, I like that picture, the colors, the contrast, the clouds, the wind, the details, the atmosphere. :) I agree, it's one of the best cards from base.
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« Reply #70 on: September 01, 2015, 06:23:17 pm »
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4. Throne Room



The vampire's blood-red Throne Room is a sight to behold, worthy of its regal name. Sure, the chandeliers aren't as symmetrical as they should be, but we're not going to focus on that here. Instead, we'll admire the fine ceiling pattern and sheer variety of red shades. It's a throne room worthy of a dashing Prince. Man, too bad about that one.
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« Reply #71 on: September 01, 2015, 08:05:11 pm »
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I bet a lot of people died hitting their head on that rather low-hanging left chandelier. "Hey guys, look at me, i'm Duke, i totally love posing at windooooAAARRRRGHHH!!!"

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« Reply #72 on: September 02, 2015, 08:50:42 am »
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« Reply #73 on: September 02, 2015, 07:34:33 pm »
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3. Laboratory



This is one cool-looking lab. Little details are waiting here to be discovered like the chains hanging from the ceiling and that curious electric-looking device up on the pillar. The lab workers seem to have come out of a fantasy universe, which I guess means this is supposed to be an alchemist's laboratory. The only real issue I have with this art is that the brightly lit center portion (containing the chandelier) stands out a bit too much at the distance you are normally looking at the card from, and I often only see that when playing with it. In fact, when I envision this card's art in my mind, that shape is all I can think of.  Well, it's still one of the better looking Dominion cards, so that's me being extremely picky.

Obviously, there is no point leaving anyone in suspense about number 1, so I'll be posting two cards tomorrow and then moving on to the Base Set as a whole after that.
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« Reply #74 on: September 03, 2015, 12:41:34 am »
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The only real issue I have with this art is that the brightly lit center portion (containing the chandelier) stands out a bit too much at the distance you are normally looking at the card from, and I often only see that when playing with it.

I only see that part too, unless I'm really looking hard at the picture and trying to see it as a laboratory.  When I'm not thinking about it, I automatically see it as MetaKnight's mask.
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« Reply #75 on: September 03, 2015, 10:52:55 am »
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« Reply #76 on: September 03, 2015, 10:58:00 am »
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So witch will be 2nd and 15th, averaging out out to a solid 7,5th place?
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« Reply #77 on: September 03, 2015, 10:58:46 am »
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The shape in Laboratory is Hot Air Balloon.
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« Reply #78 on: September 03, 2015, 12:19:50 pm »
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With Laboratory 3rd, and Mine and Thief on the first two places, i finally see what makes Dominion art good for jsh357: Guys with pointy hats.

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« Reply #79 on: September 03, 2015, 02:56:44 pm »
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So witch will be 2nd and 15th, averaging out out to a solid 7,5th place?
Yes. Library has slightly better art that the Witch, but Workshop? Witch can take 7.5 home.
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« Reply #80 on: September 03, 2015, 03:10:43 pm »
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2. Mine



I think these are some of the best-drawn human (or gnome) characters in Dominion. I particularly like the pose of the foremost miner. That hint of an action adds some depth to the art. Another thing that works for me here is the clothing, all properly wrinkly and fashionable. The mine is a humble set-piece, but with nice-looking inhabitants and excellent lighting and shading, it's easily among the best pictures in the Base Set.

1. Thief



Go figure one of the worst cards in the game has some of the best art. There's excellent use of color here, showing our well-attired, crooked friend sneaking out of a village under cover of the darkness. His facial expression and demeanor reminds me of one of my favorite gaming heroes, Garrett from the Thief series, as well. Also, let's face it: the thief is a stylin' vagabond. He clearly gets all of his shadowy attire from the finest tailors in the land. Tailor, huh. There's a good card name that hasn't happened yet.

Tomorrow I'll wrap up thoughts on the Base Set, taking a look at the box art, the backs of cards, trash pile, base cards, what have you. If you folks want to be interactive, feel free to post your own ranking list of the Base Set here (I'd recommend a single post) and we can see how much you disagree with my wild claims.



So real quick, let's take a peek at the base cards.






I feel like these were never asking for much. I'm okay with the simple designs, even if I personally think the big coins are a little ugly. The victory shields look fine. I will say I like playing with the original victory cards more than the fancy Base Cards ones simply because the values are larger. I'd say the same for Curses, but man, the new Curse art is nice. As for the original trash pile card, it looks like about what you'd expect, but maybe it's a bit too cartoony for the general tone of Dominion's artwork. Anyway, the original base cards get the job done, but they don't pop.



The Base Set's box art feels pretty average to me. It's not as nice looking as a lot of the later ones, and it seems to imply the game is going to have more of a war theme than it does with all those men carrying spears. As such, I feel like the art does not get across the theme of the game very well, inasmuch as the theme is important. I see Dominion as a game of warring economies and property development, not combat.  It's not a horrible picture by any means, but nothing inspiring either.



One last little criticism, since Mic has pointed it out to me in the past and I tend to agree. I'm really not a fan of how the backs of Dominion cards look. The logo is a little hard to read since it's blue on a different shade of blue (and that font is less than stylish). Blue and brown is also just a weird color scheme to me. There's nothing that can be done about this now, but for me it's one of the bigger problems with Dominion art overall. It feels like they went with an 'acceptable' that doesn't gel too well with nicer art in later sets.

On to NUMBERS, my overall average rating (out of 10) for the Base Set's cards is 6.4. Most of the art in the set is okay to good, but there are outliers in both directions. We'll see how it all compares down the line.

Next up: Probably Intrigue, but I'll let you guys decide.
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« Reply #81 on: September 04, 2015, 11:00:13 pm »
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I think I overall agree with your ranking of the cards.  I must admit that I had not looked as closely at Spy before, probably because I never buy it.  It is much better than it appears at first glance.  There is also a lot more going on in Lab than I appreciated.  I think your final rating for the overall set is very good.  And in regard to the box cover, I actually had that impression of it as a war game when I saw the cover.  I didn't look too closely at the game at first because of that.  Fortunately, I later took time to look closer at the mechanics and components of the game and gave it a chance, which I am extremely glad I did.

It is fun to look at these cards for their aesthetics in art rather than the usual way we discuss them.  Thanks for taking the time to do this.  I personally would like to see you go on to the next set in order of release, Intrigue.
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« Reply #82 on: September 05, 2015, 03:08:25 pm »
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Part 2: Intrigue

The cards in Intrigue are meant to give us a peek in to that more mature, Machiavellian aspect of running a kingdom. Deals are made, parties are held, people disappear, bacon goes bad. Does the art reflect that? Well, some of it does. Some of it's really cute. Some of it is just confusing. Let's start off with the Kalusky marathon!

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We all know it, we all love it on some level deep in our hearts. I feel like you can make all kinds of excuses for Harem's weird art, but at the end of the day it doesn't fit the art style of the game and even if we were not taking that in to account I wouldn't have much nice to say about it. Harem gets some points for being funny and that's it.
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« Reply #83 on: September 05, 2015, 03:23:17 pm »
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Also the red colour scheme mixing with the green-yellow Treasure-VP frame. What is this, Christmas?
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« Reply #84 on: September 05, 2015, 05:00:40 pm »
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at the end of the day it doesn't fit the art style of the game

IMO Dominion's art style IS that card art represents different genres, and i think it's refreshing. In fact, personally i find Harem's art easily more appealing than Mine's (hear me out on this one).

One reason for this is that i like cartoon art. And even though this one is a bit goofy, it still beats dark men in front of a dark background in my book. Accoring to the Wiki, Mine's original art is a tone lighter then what we see on the card, but hey, we talk about the art on the actual cards, right? And obviously you could argue that Mine's art is "higher quality" because it's more realistic and pretty much flawless, but that's part of what makes it so boring to me. Harem is goofy, but entertaining.

Which leads me to the second reason why i prefer Harem's art over Mine's: Its functional role as a game component. Harem's art stands out, which in turn makes the card more memorable, which is something you want in a game where you have to keep 10 different cards in mind. Admittedly, being the only Treasure-Victory card, Harem becomes even easier to recognize because of its color scheme, but again, we talk about the art on the cards, not the art in a vakuum. Also, i think the color combination looks nice.

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« Reply #85 on: September 05, 2015, 05:10:46 pm »
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Well in practice when I play with Harem, it comes off as really exotic with its colours, which kinda fits I suppose. When I play with Mine, I imagine it as the "black card". Mint is that " kinda black card with blue in it". I ultimately don't mind card art because they get the job done of letting me associate an effect with a picture.
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« Reply #86 on: September 05, 2015, 07:05:00 pm »
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As we kick off the Intrigue part, I find myself immediately disagreeing with JSH. I mean, you think Harem is worse than Great Hall?
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« Reply #87 on: September 05, 2015, 07:26:47 pm »
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Posting here to get updates. I can't wait until you get to Alayna Lemmer's art - I frickin ADORE her.
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« Reply #88 on: September 05, 2015, 07:29:28 pm »
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Apparently harem art is the new meta. Sorry guys, clearly not hip enough.
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« Reply #89 on: September 05, 2015, 08:47:48 pm »
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I can't wait until you get to Alayna Lemmer's art - I frickin ADORE her.

I never paid any attention to which artists did which Dominion cards before, but this post inspired me to take a couple minutes and browse the illustrators page on the wiki. It's interesting to look at each illustrator's set of cards.

If you folks want to be interactive, feel free to post your own ranking list of the Base Set here (I'd recommend a single post) and we can see how much you disagree with my wild claims.
I'll plan on doing this sometime soon.
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« Reply #90 on: September 05, 2015, 09:22:23 pm »
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Hey, jsh: want to use the new images of the cards that I meticulously scanned and uploaded to the wiki?

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Can we get an official ruling on the gender of the person in the red robe in the middle of the card?
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« Reply #93 on: September 06, 2015, 04:10:57 am »
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Can we get an official ruling on the gender of the person in the red robe in the middle of the card?
You'll have to ask Maura.

I can totally see a few Intrigue cards being lower than Harem for most people. For starters, man, Shanty Town is the same artist/style with none of the charm.
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« Reply #94 on: September 06, 2015, 07:18:36 am »
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Can we get an official ruling on the gender of the person in the red robe in the middle of the card?
You'll have to ask Maura.

I can totally see a few Intrigue cards being lower than Harem for most people. For starters, man, Shanty Town is the same artist/style with none of the charm.
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« Reply #95 on: September 06, 2015, 08:42:08 am »
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I think Shanty Town is pretty good actually. It has some nice strong centers and a lot of unobtrusive background, unlike Harem which is just a huge indecipherable mess.
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What are those things that are poking out of the barrel on the bottom right???
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« Reply #97 on: September 06, 2015, 09:00:10 am »
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What are those things that are poking out of the barrel on the bottom right???

That's a board game.
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What are those things that are poking out of the barrel on the bottom right???
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What are those things that are poking out of the barrel on the bottom right???

Notice the woman on the far right has one in her hand. So, it's some sort of tobacco?
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« Reply #101 on: September 06, 2015, 01:03:48 pm »
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Hey, jsh: want to use the new images of the cards that I meticulously scanned and uploaded to the wiki?

I like mine better.

So does jsh.

I think Harem has easily got the worst art of all expansions. And (sorry if I sound like a prude here) the worst name/theme too.

I also don't think shanty town is particularily beautiful, but it has a nice color scheme, and a bit of gloom. And a nice moon too. Moon beats giant halfhead any time.

Edit: Also, I just noticed that the girl on the left has a thigh that's much longer than her leg. Yuk.
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« Reply #102 on: September 06, 2015, 01:27:46 pm »
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Hey, jsh: want to use the new images of the cards that I meticulously scanned and uploaded to the wiki?

(image)
I like mine better.
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Really? That filter destroys most of the detail on the card and gives it a washed-out look. The copyright line is nearly unreadable and the center person appears to be sporting an ice pick for an arm. Not to mention the creepy flesh-colored eyes.
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« Reply #103 on: September 06, 2015, 01:44:33 pm »
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Really? That filter destroys most of the detail on the card and gives it a washed-out look. The copyright line is nearly unreadable and the center person appears to be sporting an ice pick for an arm. Not to mention the creepy flesh-colored eyes.

The more detail you destroy of Harem, the better it looks.

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« Reply #104 on: September 06, 2015, 01:58:38 pm »
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What are those things that are poking out of the barrel on the bottom right???

That's a board game.

I think it' actually a kind of puzzle, and that i even think i recall reading about it a while ago. Can't remember what the name was, though. Also, yes, i like Shanty Town a lot less. I think it looks like screenshot from the Simpsons.

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« Reply #105 on: September 06, 2015, 03:16:47 pm »
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24. Scout



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This is his thread, not yours? Maybe you should start a new thread to complain about the images that he is choosing to use in his thread?
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« Reply #109 on: September 07, 2015, 09:08:19 am »
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As an aside, a common complaint in the last ranking thread was that I was judging the quality of art by how it appeared on the card and not in high-res pictures seen online. In order to continue being a troll to these types of nitpickers I am going to continue judging the art by how it appears on the cards. That is the medium the art is intended to be seen in, and as such it will be in my mind.

This is his thread, not yours? Maybe you should start a new thread to complain about the images that he is choosing to use in his thread?

This is how they appear on the cards.  He was talking about using the original art, something like this:



I'm using a better scan of the actual card image.  Whoever first scanned the Intrigue and Seaside cards did a real shit job.
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« Reply #110 on: September 07, 2015, 12:43:36 pm »
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I think his hand is in his pocket...
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« Reply #111 on: September 07, 2015, 01:39:40 pm »
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I think his hand is in his pocket...

I think his hand is doing something else.
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« Reply #112 on: September 07, 2015, 03:09:57 pm »
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23. Shanty Town



"But it's supposed to look crappy, that's the joke!" Thank you, commenter! Isn't everything easier when other people do your job for you? Someone mentioned earlier that I was being unfair to Harem because it's cartoony whereas cards like Mine are more realistic. I do want to stress that I don't dislike cartoon art or think it has no place in a serious game or anything. I just think the art in the game looks disjointed and strange when random cartoon-style images are sitting next to a horde of more traditional-looking art. As I said in the last attempt at this thread, there's nothing wrong with Kalusky's style inherently, but the lack of consistency is a perfectly legitimate complaint to make about Dominion's or any other game's art (which I have seen in plenty of reviews) and it's something that I'm not fond of personally. It doesn't ruin the game at all, but it's very much there.

And at any rate, I feel like Harem could at best be seen as #21 or so out of Intrigue by most, so it's an awfully strange card to jump on defending, but I of course have no intention of shutting down discussion.
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« Reply #113 on: September 07, 2015, 05:05:32 pm »
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Oh come on, jsh357, don't let somebody disagreeing with your order stop you from being funny. After all which art you prefer is subjective. And i certainly didn't say you were unfair, in fact i pointed out that besides being more realistic, Mine also lacks the flaws Harem has. I just happen to find realism boring, and to like oddballs and cartoons. Also, things that are generally liked don't need somebody to defend them.

Either way, the nature of this thread will mean people will disagree, and i didn't intend to offend you, honestly. Your thread has been very enjoyable, and the way you talked about the art, with all the little weird details you pointed out, made it worth reading on its own - regardless on whether i agree on a particular position or not.

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« Reply #114 on: September 07, 2015, 05:26:00 pm »
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I'm not offended, I just felt the need to respond and defend my position a little since that post seemed to draw a lot of criticism this time around.

Also, nothing against you guys posting other pictures, but for people reading the thread through it might be kind of distracting, so for the sake of others I'll politely ask it be toned down unless there's a funny picture to entertain people or something.
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« Reply #115 on: September 07, 2015, 07:22:30 pm »
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The shanty-owner's head, although horrendously giant, somehow still manages to look as though its skull is nearly bursting through, in an almost reptilian way.

That central detail distracts me intensely from the rest of the card, which I think is at least not poorly drawn.
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« Reply #116 on: September 07, 2015, 08:26:36 pm »
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Also, nothing against you guys posting other pictures, but for people reading the thread through it might be kind of distracting, so for the sake of others I'll politely ask it be toned down unless there's a funny picture to entertain people or something.

Can you at least use the better quality pictures on the wiki?  I'm assuming you're getting these from dieherstraits.
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« Reply #117 on: September 08, 2015, 03:12:25 am »
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As I said in the last attempt at this thread, there's nothing wrong with Kalusky's style inherently, but the lack of consistency is a perfectly legitimate complaint to make about Dominion's or any other game's art (which I have seen in plenty of reviews) and it's something that I'm not fond of personally. It doesn't ruin the game at all, but it's very much there.

And at any rate, I feel like Harem could at best be seen as #21 or so out of Intrigue by most, so it's an awfully strange card to jump on defending, but I of course have no intention of shutting down discussion.
I actually really dislike Kalusky's style. I'd totally put Harem at #25 and Shanty Town at #24 just because of the face of that guy inside the house... I really don't like it... Shanty Town is probably more okay because there are less people on it. The ladies on Harem are really atrocious.
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« Reply #118 on: September 08, 2015, 03:41:31 am »
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If you folks want to be interactive, feel free to post your own ranking list of the Base Set here (I'd recommend a single post) and we can see how much you disagree with my wild claims.
I'll plan on doing this sometime soon.
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25 Chancellor (tier 5)
24 Woodcutter  (tier 5)
23 Smithy (tier 5)
22 Council Room (tier 5)
21 Cellar (tier 4)
20 Chapel (tier 4)
19 Moneylender (tier 4)
18 Militia (tier 4)
17 Witch (tier 4)
16 Festival (tier 4)
15 Gardens (tier 3)
14 Bureaucrat (tier 3)
13 Workshop (tier 3)
12 Moat (tier 3)
11 Remodel (tier 3)
10 Throne Room (tier 2)
9 Market (tier 2)
8 Adventurer (tier 2)
7 Mine (tier 2)
6 Feast (tier 2)
5 Village (tier 2)
4 Thief (tier 1)
3 Spy (tier 1)
2 Library (tier 1)
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« Reply #119 on: September 08, 2015, 09:15:21 am »
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I feel like you should add the ranking list to the original post with links to the individual posts.  Of course it's a pain and takes time, but think of all the internet points you could get!
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« Reply #120 on: September 08, 2015, 11:52:25 am »
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Can we get an official ruling on the gender of the person in the red robe in the middle of the card?


I'm a woman and I'm very glad that Harem is painted in a "funny way". It feels strange to buy a Harem anyway so at least the picture is ironic.
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« Reply #121 on: September 08, 2015, 11:56:35 am »
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Can we get an official ruling on the gender of the person in the red robe in the middle of the card?


I'm a woman and I'm very glad that Harem is painted in a "funny way". It feels strange to buy a Harem anyway so at least the picture is ironic.

I like that they're all smirking.
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« Reply #122 on: September 08, 2015, 03:03:45 pm »
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22. Steward



I think that more than anything it's the colors here that look gross, both in the scans and on the physical card. That weird blurry/foggy effect, which I assume is supposed to be some kind of shadow, does not seem artful. The man on the right's posture is strange too. I do like that the man on the left (I assume he is the actual Steward even though the guy in green is the focal point of the image) is offering what appears to be a plate of chicken vest to the snooty man. Now that I look, the guy on the right is doing the same. So we've been wrong all along and this card should be 'Stewards' plural.
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« Reply #123 on: September 08, 2015, 03:59:02 pm »
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The snooty man is the steward. A steward is in charge of a household.
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« Reply #124 on: September 08, 2015, 04:05:36 pm »
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The snooty man is the steward. A steward is in charge of a household.

It honestly can work either way looking at the definitions of the word.  Either he's managing the two servants or they are stewards bringing him stuff.
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« Reply #125 on: September 08, 2015, 06:17:28 pm »
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And in regard to the box cover, I actually had that impression of it as a war game when I saw the cover.  I didn't look too closely at the game at first because of that.  Fortunately, I later took time to look closer at the mechanics and components of the game and gave it a chance, which I am extremely glad I did.

I had the exact same impression (and was almost completely new to boardgaming, so it wasn't like I was thinking "Oh that's like ASL" or something). I wonder how common this is.
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« Reply #126 on: September 08, 2015, 07:06:00 pm »
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And in regard to the box cover, I actually had that impression of it as a war game when I saw the cover.  I didn't look too closely at the game at first because of that.  Fortunately, I later took time to look closer at the mechanics and components of the game and gave it a chance, which I am extremely glad I did.

I had the exact same impression (and was almost completely new to boardgaming, so it wasn't like I was thinking "Oh that's like ASL" or something). I wonder how common this is.

Which is precisely why the german edition used another cover back when Hans im Glück published it:


(Left is Intrigue, right is Base - together they are one big image)

They blew it on several occasions, but HiG's cover art looks much nicer than the original, i dare say.

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« Reply #127 on: September 08, 2015, 11:14:17 pm »
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They subtitled it "What a world!"?  :o
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« Reply #128 on: September 09, 2015, 12:11:05 am »
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Am I wrong in thinking that the perspective in that is off? Those look like some very small mountains.
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« Reply #129 on: September 09, 2015, 03:52:45 am »
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They subtitled it "What a world!"?  :o

Yes. Adding unneccessary subtitles is a thing german translatores tend to do. It's also very common with movies. To be fair, "Dominion" isn't a very well known word in germany and the direct translation would be "Reich". Now imagine the game box saying that  ;)

Also sorry for derailing the thread but i felt it might be interesting to take a look at international covers, even if they are not included in the ranking.

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« Reply #130 on: September 09, 2015, 05:42:02 am »
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They subtitled it "What a world!"?  :o

Yes. Adding unneccessary subtitles is a thing german translatores tend to do. It's also very common with movies. To be fair, "Dominion" isn't a very well known word in germany and the direct translation would be "Reich". Now imagine the game box saying that  ;)

Also sorry for derailing the thread but i felt it might be interesting to take a look at international covers, even if they are not included in the ranking.

I guess it's better than the Dutch version, which has 'In naam van de Koning' as a subtitle, translated: 'In the name of the King'. Just... why?
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« Reply #131 on: September 09, 2015, 03:00:29 pm »
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I am loving the box art discussion. I have to agree that the Dutch version's art fits the game much better.

21. Nobles



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« Reply #132 on: September 09, 2015, 03:56:45 pm »
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I did agree with JSH (for the most part) with the base cards, but man, in my opinion, he's really screwing up Intrigue (I say that meaning as little offense as possible). I have only agreed that 2/5 of the cards that he has talked about should be low (and I think Scout would be a big higher for me) but I do not agree with Harem, Nobles or Steward being this low. I mean, where is Bridge?
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« Reply #133 on: September 09, 2015, 04:55:46 pm »
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I did agree with JSH (for the most part) with the base cards, but man, in my opinion, he's really screwing up Intrigue (I say that meaning as little offense as possible). I have only agreed that 2/5 of the cards that he has talked about should be low (and I think Scout would be a big higher for me) but I do not agree with Harem, Nobles or Steward being this low. I mean, where is Bridge?
What? I love Bridge, I think it has the best art in the whole set. Having said that, I have to admit that I don't think Nobles deserved to be this low.
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« Reply #134 on: September 09, 2015, 05:02:39 pm »
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I did agree with JSH (for the most part) with the base cards, but man, in my opinion, he's really screwing up Intrigue (I say that meaning as little offense as possible). I have only agreed that 2/5 of the cards that he has talked about should be low (and I think Scout would be a big higher for me) but I do not agree with Harem, Nobles or Steward being this low. I mean, where is Bridge?
What? I love Bridge, I think it has the best art in the whole set. Having said that, I have to admit that I don't think Nobles deserved to be this low.
Well, I am sorry that our opinions differ, but my statement still stands (for me).
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I think we should've seen Minion by now.

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« Reply #136 on: September 10, 2015, 08:14:22 pm »
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20. Minion



The power of the beard keeps Minion out of the bottom five, but it can't do much else for him. He's got terrible taste in portraits and is just asking to take his left hand out. Hold it at the hilt, dude. If you zoom in you can make out lots of arm hair and wrinkles, too. I think the artist overdid it a bit on the details there.
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« Reply #137 on: September 10, 2015, 08:37:24 pm »
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called it.
I never realized that thing he's holding was a dagger. and his beard is funny looking. That's why he's angry: he wishes he had a real beard like the guy in the portrait.

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« Reply #138 on: September 11, 2015, 10:57:18 am »
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called it.
I never realized that thing he's holding was a dagger. and his beard is funny looking. That's why he's angry: he wishes he had a real beard like the guy in the portrait.

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« Reply #139 on: September 11, 2015, 03:31:58 pm »
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called it.
I never realized that thing he's holding was a dagger. and his beard is funny looking. That's why he's angry: he wishes he had a real beard like the guy in the portrait.

To be a man and not have a beard in Dominion is blasphemy.
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« Reply #140 on: September 11, 2015, 04:03:38 pm »
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19. Upgrade



It's been like a year since I did the last list and they're STILL working on it. Get it together, guys.

18. Baron



I don't always make card ranking lists, but when I do Baron doesn't place very highly.

17. Duke



the Duke is wearing a fine chicken leg vest that looks like the inside of my winter coat. I bet he's proud of himself. His window overlooks a very close-by river (seriously, take a look at that perspective) and his chair is cut from the same chicken as his shirt. I don't know what else to tell you people. It's not a downright ugly card but I'm not letting it perch any higher on the Intrigue list.
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What's wrong with Baron?
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« Reply #142 on: September 14, 2015, 07:12:28 am »
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So, to you, jsh, "chicken leg" = "quilted"?
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« Reply #143 on: September 14, 2015, 07:20:51 am »
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Baron and Duke? Wow, now I'm wondering what the top 10 could possibly be. I really don't know about your look on Intrigue cards...
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« Reply #144 on: September 14, 2015, 08:56:10 am »
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« Reply #145 on: September 14, 2015, 10:04:17 am »
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« Reply #146 on: September 14, 2015, 11:04:42 am »
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I love Upgrade's art.

Baron's face looks like that of a war criminal, and Duke is clearly a seller of snake oil.
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« Reply #147 on: September 14, 2015, 02:45:14 pm »
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The power of the beard keeps Minion out of the bottom five, but it can't do much else for him. He's got terrible taste in portraits and is just asking to take his left hand out. Hold it at the hilt, dude. If you zoom in you can make out lots of arm hair and wrinkles, too. I think the artist overdid it a bit on the details there.
It was a scroll originally. We complained that he looked like an evil secretary, and the artist changed it to a dagger.
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« Reply #148 on: September 14, 2015, 03:10:42 pm »
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16. Wishing Well



Flavor text followed by nonsensical joke then meta commentary on the art of listing. Commentary on how odd the placement of the art seems since a lot of people like the picture, then weak justification that invites angry comments. Something about bacon and/or chicken for good measure. Note about blurriness, fuzziness, or some other notable quality of card art to leave the reader questioning their perception. Lack of surprise when they get defensive anyway. Reference to f.ds meme and or stream to end on a snappy note.
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« Reply #149 on: September 14, 2015, 03:29:53 pm »
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« Reply #150 on: September 14, 2015, 04:05:59 pm »
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Wait, why is there light coming out of the well? Is there some sort of literal wish-granting magical being down there?
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« Reply #151 on: September 14, 2015, 04:07:34 pm »
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"I wish this well had a light in it": Guy standing at the wishing well, probably.
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« Reply #152 on: September 14, 2015, 05:05:42 pm »
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Posting of better scan of card.

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« Reply #153 on: September 14, 2015, 05:20:21 pm »
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« Reply #154 on: September 14, 2015, 05:32:13 pm »
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Posting of better scan of card.

Keep on keeping on, wero. I too wish jsh would use the better scans you've made.
Indeed. Looking at the better scan, I can see that the guy on the right is not in fact wearing his hood and the woman is definitely holding a letter.

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« Reply #155 on: September 14, 2015, 05:34:56 pm »
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Posting of better scan of card.

Keep on keeping on, wero. I too wish jsh would use the better scans you've made.
Indeed. Looking at the better scan, I can see that the guy on the right is not in fact wearing his hood and the woman is definitely holding a letter.

Hrm the scene doesn't make all that much sense.

You have to write up and seal your wishes ahead of time.  Otherwise someone could overhear them and they wouldn't come true!

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« Reply #156 on: September 14, 2015, 05:44:09 pm »
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Posting of better scan of card.

Keep on keeping on, wero. I too wish jsh would use the better scans you've made.
Indeed. Looking at the better scan, I can see that the guy on the right is not in fact wearing his hood and the woman is definitely holding a letter.

Hrm the scene doesn't make all that much sense.

A forbidden love? A murderous intrigue? Secrets, hopes and danger. Not even we know.

After looking at it closely for the first time now, i think i actually like this quite a lot. Not sure what it depicts, or whether it's supposed to be clear, but i like to believe it's a couple meeting at a secret spot, "wishing" for happiness <3

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« Reply #157 on: September 14, 2015, 05:59:48 pm »
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Posting of better scan of card.

Keep on keeping on, wero. I too wish jsh would use the better scans you've made.

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« Reply #158 on: September 14, 2015, 11:24:38 pm »
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The Duke's beard, though not awesome, is still better than the Baron's and the Minion's.

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« Reply #159 on: September 15, 2015, 03:15:17 pm »
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15. Tribute



I think I said it all last time. It's hard to make out what's going on in this picture at all, especially on the actual card. Apparently whoever painted this portrait was the same guy who decorated the Throne Room too. At least it gets points for consistency.
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I think they're paying tribute to the guy.
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Duke >>> Tribute. He is a clever guy, using the nearby river as a moat.
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« Reply #163 on: September 16, 2015, 05:37:40 pm »
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[img]http://dominion.diehrstraits.com/scans/intrigue/saboteur.jpg[/img It's lit, so we can only assume he plans to plant it and teleport away at light speed. Either that or this guy is a moron.
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« Reply #165 on: September 16, 2015, 06:59:54 pm »
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14. Saboteur

It's lit, so we can only assume he plans to plant it and teleport away at light speed. Either that or this guy is a moron.
Or he could throw it?
He throws it, and causes damage to a random target somewhere in the vicinity. Which is pretty much what the actual card does.
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Everybody knows that bombs only explode in orthogonal directions, so he just has to move to the other side of the corner and he will be safe.
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« Reply #167 on: September 16, 2015, 08:28:27 pm »
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Why isn't he attacking with wooden shoes? What kind of sabotage is complete without them?
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« Reply #168 on: September 17, 2015, 08:13:35 pm »
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13. Pawn



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13. Pawn



 I can't tell if he's depressed, ill, disappointed in himself, or what.
He is obviously constipated.
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« Reply #170 on: September 17, 2015, 09:27:59 pm »
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« Reply #171 on: September 18, 2015, 06:20:50 am »
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"Yes, I must poop here, in the middle of the room, just in front of the fireplace."

I think he looks like a LotR human. Also one does not simply poop in the middle of the room.

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Man, last thread nobody even believed me that he was constipated. Look at you all now.
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Man, last thread nobody even believed me that he was constipated. Look at you all now.
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Man, last thread nobody even believed me that he was constipated. Look at you all now.

I actually thought it was one of the funniest things you wrote on the previous rankings. I have gone back and corrected my error of not giving you +1 on that at the time.
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12. Bridge



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oh my goodness... i was watching that show today with my 2 year old (introducing her to the Ringo Starr edition of course) and thought the exact same thing!
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« Reply #179 on: September 18, 2015, 08:36:35 pm »
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oh my goodness... i was watching that show today with my 2 year old (introducing her to the Ringo Starr edition of course) and thought the exact same thing!

If you play the show backwards you can hear, "Donald X is dead."
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« Reply #180 on: September 19, 2015, 08:42:57 pm »
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11. Conspirator



Doctor Who is back on! Whoo! Thanks for rocking the Tardis blue in celebration, guys. Yeah, Conspirator has some cool art. If nothing else it's a spiffy concept that fits the theme of Intrigue well. I dig their masks; they seem to resemble Oni masks from Japanese folklore, but the intent could be some culture I'm not as studied up on. If those aren't masks, then whoa, these guys need to see a Doctor right away.  See what I did there?
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« Reply #181 on: September 19, 2015, 09:48:53 pm »
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I never noticed this before, but do those streaks imply they're meeting in the rain? That's cool.
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I'm not convinced they're wearing masks.  I think that guy may just have a really big shnoz.
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« Reply #183 on: September 20, 2015, 09:37:33 pm »
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10. Masquerade



Sorry to be late. A natural consequence of doing this list this way in the middle of grad school is I may not feel like writing much some days, but I'll still update the list. Boy, that man is having a ball, huh? The image implies he's some kind of wizard or otherwise magical being, but the name of the card just implies a dance. Well, it looks sinister and evokes that shady feeling we want out of Intrigue, so I guess it's a winner.
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I think the Masquerade art is really good.
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9. Torturer



The Torturer has spent so much time in the Throne Room that the redness has sunk in to his skin. Either that or he's got a wicked sunburn. I'm not too big a fan of Mr. Torturer's overall design, but you have to admit he looks threatening, which is the entire point. That belt buckle, though. Wow.
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« Reply #187 on: September 21, 2015, 07:43:18 pm »
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It looks like he's sporting a pair of headphones (Beats I assume). I wonder what his torturing playlist is.
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It looks like he's sporting a pair of headphones (Beats I assume). I wonder what his torturing playlist is.

Alice in Chains.
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« Reply #189 on: September 21, 2015, 07:49:06 pm »
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It looks like he's sporting a pair of headphones (Beats I assume). I wonder what his torturing playlist is.

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« Reply #190 on: September 22, 2015, 11:01:18 am »
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, it looks like there is top hat flipping off the top of his head.
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« Reply #191 on: September 22, 2015, 02:05:45 pm »
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Man, I feel like I haven't been berating Jsh enough. The fact that you 'can't dig deeper on Bridge' should put it lower, but whatever, I think Bridge looks okay. I do think Masquerade is one of the best looking cards in Intrigue, and I feel like it should be higher.
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« Reply #192 on: September 22, 2015, 03:26:05 pm »
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Man, I feel like I haven't been berating Jsh enough. The fact that you 'can't dig deeper on Bridge' should put it lower, but whatever, I think Bridge looks okay. I do think Masquerade is one of the best looking cards in Intrigue, and I feel like it should be higher.

I don't think this is true. If I have a skillet covered in bacon and it all looks glorious and crispy, but I don't have anything else to say about it, does that devalue the bacon? No way, man. I can appreciate the bacon on its own terms. Bacon is truth; truth, bacon. That is all we know on earth, and all we need to know.
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« Reply #193 on: September 22, 2015, 03:31:09 pm »
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Man, I feel like I haven't been berating Jsh enough. The fact that you 'can't dig deeper on Bridge' should put it lower, but whatever, I think Bridge looks okay. I do think Masquerade is one of the best looking cards in Intrigue, and I feel like it should be higher.

I don't think this is true. If I have a skillet covered in bacon and it all looks glorious and crispy, but I don't have anything else to say about it, does that devalue the bacon? No way, man. I can appreciate the bacon on its own terms. Bacon is truth, truth, bacon. That is all we know on earth, and all we need to know.
That doesn't devalue the bacon, but if you are explaining the bacon to people who haven't seen the bacon, it gets devalued. Instead of saying that it was glorious and crispy, you just tell them that you had bacon.
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« Reply #194 on: September 22, 2015, 03:36:14 pm »
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I'm sorry. But it's all okay. In just a few lengths of time, you will be able to elect a more serious Dominion Card Art Commentator to satisfy your never-ending hunger for academic, post-modern analysis on cartoon bridges.
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« Reply #195 on: September 22, 2015, 03:37:25 pm »
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Bacon is truth, truth, bacon.

Your first comma should have been the most obvious semi-colon in the long and violent history of punctuation.
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« Reply #196 on: September 22, 2015, 03:52:15 pm »
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Bacon is truth, truth, bacon.

Your first comma should have been the most obvious semi-colon in the long and violent history of punctuation.

You are correct. If it's any consolation for me, you can always blame that John guy for getting it wrong in the first place.

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« Reply #197 on: September 22, 2015, 05:17:10 pm »
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I think Torturer looks horrible. Talk about impossible body standards. And about how to draw realistical abs, too.
What I love about Masquerade is that the art sort of reflects the mechanics of the card. It's cute.
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« Reply #198 on: September 22, 2015, 06:49:51 pm »
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As long as people are still annoyed by my presence, I don't like Great Hall very much, either.
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« Reply #199 on: September 22, 2015, 07:03:30 pm »
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Oh, so Great Hall has art? I never noticed it.
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« Reply #200 on: September 22, 2015, 07:04:15 pm »
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The Great Hall is so dark, and tinged with green, that it always looks like a forest to me at first glance. In any case, if they couldn't afford a working chandelier it can't be *that* Great, can it?
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« Reply #201 on: September 22, 2015, 07:53:30 pm »
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Is it truly fair for the beyond amateur art critic to speak for these images? What I say is only a truth defined by my own perceptions, and many would argue that the art should speak for itself. Let's satisfy a thought experiment. Great Hall, can you, an image created by a person, defend your placement on this ranking of card art from an expansion to Dominion, a game created by a different person? What are your thoughts on the value of art in our lives, Great Hall? Speak up; don't be shy.
Great Hall is a piece that defies criticism. Oh sure, you can complain about the colors, or how they're arranged. But while Great Hall the card does nothing, the art for it does nothing. And in doing so it leaves nothing left for the critic, who resorts to critiquing himself; they form a Venn diagram with no overlap. Great Hall forces this situation; it creates a vast gulf between itself and the critic, or perhaps an empty corridor of some kind.

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« Reply #202 on: September 23, 2015, 05:43:29 pm »
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7. Trading Post



I think this is a pretty great picture, not just because it looks nice, but since it's open to interpretation. Is the person hiding behind the tree waiting for an opportunity to steal something? Planning to trade in that sword? Admiring the view but being super-cautious about it? You can never be too safe in Dominion Land. It could be that this person's story is only a small sub-story of the overall daily routine at this trading post, and I like that. We're getting a peek at a larger world with subtle implications. Of course, it could also be that the art was submitted for another card name, but that doesn't lessen what we have here. Score another point for Intrigue having art that fits its overall theme if my interpretation is right.
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« Reply #203 on: September 23, 2015, 07:32:09 pm »
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I would have liked this artwork for Black market. It's pretty good nonetheless, though
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« Reply #204 on: September 23, 2015, 08:09:40 pm »
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Admiring the view but being super-cautious about it?

You'd be cautious too if you went near a trading post that can trash you for a Silver.
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« Reply #205 on: September 24, 2015, 08:06:40 pm »
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6. Ironworks



This is what, the fourth card with some weird overuse of red? Oh well, it looks cool. Got to love that lighting on the ceiling, and the workers are all carrying giant steel beams like you'd expect to see at the ironworks. They must pump a lot of iron to be able to lift those things.
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« Reply #206 on: September 25, 2015, 10:51:12 am »
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Pardon me saying this, but i think the fact that you might actually mistake the hideous pseudo-cubist faces on Conspirator for grotesque masks shouldn't be taken as a sign of quality.

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« Reply #207 on: September 25, 2015, 10:54:02 am »
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7. Trading Post



I think this is a pretty great picture, not just because it looks nice, but since it's open to interpretation. Is the person hiding behind the tree waiting for an opportunity to steal something? Planning to trade in that sword? Admiring the view but being super-cautious about it? You can never be too safe in Dominion Land. It could be that this person's story is only a small sub-story of the overall daily routine at this trading post, and I like that. We're getting a peek at a larger world with subtle implications. Of course, it could also be that the art was submitted for another card name, but that doesn't lessen what we have here. Score another point for Intrigue having art that fits its overall theme if my interpretation is right.

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« Reply #208 on: September 25, 2015, 01:56:22 pm »
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Allright guys, let me clear this up for you. As we all know, the Recipe for creating Intrigue card art is as follows:
1. Depict the thing the card actually names.
2. Add two people acting suspicious.

Unlike Wishing Well, Shanty Town, Nobles and Baron, Trading Post only has one visible person acting suspicious, which explains why all of you are confused. What you are missing is that the other person is simply very well hidden, and that THIS is where the actual Intrigue lies. I must say i'm disappointed that none of you got this obvious fact. I mean, really, when will you stop falling for troll posts with over-the-top theories like "He's going to rob the Trading Post"?

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« Reply #209 on: September 25, 2015, 02:25:54 pm »
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« Reply #210 on: September 25, 2015, 05:32:08 pm »
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5. Mining Village



Not much time today. It's snowy and nice. The artist didn't have to use this type of environment, but it paid off, I think. The guy in the cape climbing up that tower looks pretty rad as well. Also there is a man in a pointy hat.
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« Reply #211 on: September 25, 2015, 05:34:27 pm »
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Wow, i didn't even know that was a guy climbing up the tower.  I always just looked at the outline and thought it was some kind of weighting mechanism in a machine, like you see in an oil rig.
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« Reply #212 on: September 25, 2015, 05:35:12 pm »
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5. Mining Village

Not much time today. It's snowy and nice. The artist didn't have to use this type of environment, but it paid off, I think. The guy in the cape climbing up that tower looks pretty rad as well. Also there is a man in a pointy hat.
Shanty Town has a guy in a pointy hood, but it got to be just about at the bottom.
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« Reply #213 on: September 25, 2015, 05:39:43 pm »
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5. Mining Village

Not much time today. It's snowy and nice. The artist didn't have to use this type of environment, but it paid off, I think. The guy in the cape climbing up that tower looks pretty rad as well. Also there is a man in a pointy hat.
Shanty Town has a guy in a pointy hood, but it got to be just about at the bottom.

The moral of the story is that hats are better than hoods.
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« Reply #214 on: September 25, 2015, 05:40:01 pm »
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Wow, i didn't even know that was a guy climbing up the tower.  I always just looked at the outline and thought it was some kind of weighting mechanism in a machine, like you see in an oil rig.

Man, me too. I thought both of those guys were machine parts of some sort.
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« Reply #215 on: September 25, 2015, 05:59:30 pm »
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5. Mining Village

Not much time today. It's snowy and nice. The artist didn't have to use this type of environment, but it paid off, I think. The guy in the cape climbing up that tower looks pretty rad as well. Also there is a man in a pointy hat.
Shanty Town has a guy in a pointy hood, but it got to be just about at the bottom.

The moral of the story is that hats are better than hoods.
I will continue arguing because I think hoods are better than most hats.
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« Reply #216 on: September 25, 2015, 06:07:11 pm »
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So that leaves Courtyard, Secret Chamber Coppersmith, and Swindler.

I hope Courtyard is number 1, but I bet it will be Secret Chamber. Second guess, Coppersmith.
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« Reply #217 on: September 25, 2015, 06:23:55 pm »
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5. Mining Village

Not much time today. It's snowy and nice. The artist didn't have to use this type of environment, but it paid off, I think. The guy in the cape climbing up that tower looks pretty rad as well. Also there is a man in a pointy hat.
Shanty Town has a guy in a pointy hood, but it got to be just about at the bottom.

The moral of the story is that hats are better than hoods.
I will continue arguing because I think hoods are better than most hats.

Then why is Shanty Town so much lower than Mining Village?
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« Reply #218 on: September 25, 2015, 06:29:26 pm »
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5. Mining Village

Not much time today. It's snowy and nice. The artist didn't have to use this type of environment, but it paid off, I think. The guy in the cape climbing up that tower looks pretty rad as well. Also there is a man in a pointy hat.
Shanty Town has a guy in a pointy hood, but it got to be just about at the bottom.

The moral of the story is that hats are better than hoods.
I will continue arguing because I think hoods are better than most hats.

Then why is Shanty Town so much lower than Mining Village?
I blame Jsh's personal opinion.
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« Reply #219 on: September 26, 2015, 09:25:57 am »
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4. COPPEE SMITH


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« Reply #220 on: September 26, 2015, 12:45:47 pm »
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What the what? Some of us always type from mobile, it's really not that bad.
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« Reply #221 on: September 26, 2015, 05:52:10 pm »
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My avatar is Rank 4 for Intrigue. Not bad. I wish your post was easier to read. I post on mobile all the time and my posts don't look like that.
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« Reply #222 on: September 26, 2015, 06:27:04 pm »
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Is criticizing jsh over everything a forum joke?
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« Reply #223 on: September 26, 2015, 06:28:07 pm »
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I ask because if it is, it hasn't been explained yet.  I need to know if I should find it funny or not.
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« Reply #224 on: September 26, 2015, 06:29:57 pm »
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In not sure but my post was intended to b a joke
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In not sure but my post was intended to b a joke

I thought maybe you had big fat fingers or something.
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« Reply #226 on: September 27, 2015, 12:41:18 am »
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In not sure but my post was intended to b a joke
Yeah, but I wanted to hear more about your thoughts on Coppersmith. More of that red overdose. It emanates warmth that makes you wish it was good more often.
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« Reply #227 on: September 27, 2015, 10:02:37 am »
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It's good as an opener if there aren't any Attacks and there's at least one Village on the board.  It likes draw, too.
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« Reply #228 on: September 27, 2015, 10:24:09 am »
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It's good as an opener if there aren't any Attacks and there's at least one Village on the board.  It likes draw, too.

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Re: JSH's True Art Rankings
« Reply #229 on: September 28, 2015, 12:10:21 am »
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Sorry for not having a post. It's been a heck of a weekend. You'll get three today if I'm up to it.
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« Reply #230 on: September 28, 2015, 09:20:14 am »
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Sorry for not having a post. It's been a heck of a weekend. You'll get three today if I'm up to it.

Is this an apology or more avant garde art criticism? I don't even know what's real anymore.
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« Reply #231 on: September 28, 2015, 02:48:59 pm »
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3. Secret Chamber



Continuing the theme of bad cards having great art, here's Secret Chamber. Let's look past the fact that the head ornament looks ripped right out Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets; it's still a baller detail that makes the image visually striking. The open panel on the roof is another nice touch. It definitely looks like some screwy stuff goes on in this chamber, and I don't think we could ask for much else.

2. Swindler



The Swindler is one of the best-dressed gentlemen in the entire game's canon. That look on his face is absolutely perfect for what the card does too. He's offering you nothing but garbage and it couldn't be more apparent. You know you're in for a fun game when you see this charming gentleman in his dapper pink attire.

1. Courtyard



The majestic Courtyard has the best art in intrigue. I love this picture. The plants are all beautiful, the building clean and wealthy. Even the cute detail of the young lady about to fall in a well stands out here. It's one of my favorite pictures in the game and I couldn't rank it any lower. How far we've come.

Thank you all for bearing with me. Or not. We'll wrap up Intrigue tomorrow and see how it compares to the Base Set. You all seemed interested in just sticking with linear release order, so Seaside will follow.

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« Reply #232 on: September 28, 2015, 06:39:00 pm »
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one would be led to believe that mr. swindler is all too conscious of what his left hand is up to, he could have at least borrowed one of the glass things from his uncle to hold instead of that uncomfortable thumbs-up he's doing
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« Reply #233 on: September 28, 2015, 07:32:09 pm »
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He's giving a thumbs-up to all the wonderful merchandise he has waiting for you inside.
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« Reply #234 on: September 29, 2015, 04:32:02 pm »
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That's it for Intrigue. The set has its artistic ups and downs. I feel as if the lows are lower than the Base Set but the highs are mostly higher. I think the theme I perceive in the set is the strongest thing it has going. Seventeen of the kingdom cards feature either shady characters, people whispering to each other, or some kind of meeting of questionable moral. It is nice that the artists all seemed to get the memo on that one; even innocuous cards like Wishing Well fit in to the theme.

The box art is not my favorite. I don't care for the way the trees look like they were glued on to the landscape, and the evening colors look just a little too pink, which is even weirder since the sky is blue above the logo. Still, it's got a shady meeting going on, so it has something.

My average rating for the cards in Intrigue is 6.02, a bit lower than the Base Set overall. Some of this has to do with the inconsistency (Harem/Shanty Town really stick out) and some drawings I'm not entirely sure were finished. It's still above average, but hey, the best is yet to come.

Next time: Seaside
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« Reply #235 on: September 29, 2015, 05:40:36 pm »
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Seaside has a lot of really beautiful art; that should be a fun list to make (after Navigator).  Intrigue is definitely hit or miss, but some of the top cards (Courtyard, Mining Village) are some of my favorites from all of Dominion.
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« Reply #236 on: September 30, 2015, 05:06:54 pm »
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Part 3: Seaside

24. Navigator



Is anyone surprised by this? If you are, man, I don't know what to tell you. Look at his massive arm. I'm not sure what Bruce Banner is doing out on the open seas, but hopefully the poor guy found some peace out there.

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« Reply #237 on: September 30, 2015, 05:17:34 pm »
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Massive arm?  What about his massive... lips?
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« Reply #238 on: September 30, 2015, 05:22:29 pm »
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So you're doing the Native Village/Pirate Ship/Island triptych as one piece of art, huh? I'm not sure how much sense that really makes. I mean yes they connect together seamlessly, but they're pretty disjoint apart from that. You might as well just rank each artist for their art across all the cards.
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« Reply #239 on: September 30, 2015, 05:37:40 pm »
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Navigator art is I think the worst among all Dominion cards with other obviously bad ones not even being close.

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« Reply #240 on: September 30, 2015, 05:54:19 pm »
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By this point, I doubt anyone is surprised that I like the Navigator art.
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By this point, I doubt anyone is surprised that I like the Navigator art.

I think your profile picture was enough to stunt our surprise. 
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« Reply #242 on: September 30, 2015, 05:57:31 pm »
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By this point, I doubt anyone is surprised that I like the Navigator art.

I think your profile picture was enough to stunt our surprise.
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« Reply #243 on: September 30, 2015, 05:59:35 pm »
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So you're doing the Native Village/Pirate Ship/Island triptych as one piece of art, huh? I'm not sure how much sense that really makes. I mean yes they connect together seamlessly, but they're pretty disjoint apart from that. You might as well just rank each artist for their art across all the cards.

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« Reply #244 on: September 30, 2015, 06:02:40 pm »
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You might as well just rank each artist for their art across all the cards.
Jsh should totally rank the artists at the end.
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« Reply #245 on: September 30, 2015, 06:05:56 pm »
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Those aren't big arms, just poofy sleeves.
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« Reply #246 on: September 30, 2015, 06:16:00 pm »
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Those aren't big arms, just poofy sleeves.
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« Reply #247 on: September 30, 2015, 06:22:13 pm »
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Those aren't big arms, just poofy sleeves.

I'm not sure replacing "massive arms" with "poofy sleeves" really invalidates the criticism in any way.
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« Reply #248 on: September 30, 2015, 07:14:32 pm »
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I also dislike navigator's four-finger-hands. This man wasn't created for any Disney or Simpsons cartoon!
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« Reply #249 on: October 01, 2015, 03:02:07 pm »
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23. Treasure Map



It took me this long to realize that the picture is meant to be half a map, which explains why it looks like the artist stopped drawing it on one side. I still dislike how the scope device looks and think the coins look weird. Aside from that, it's not that bad a picture, but Seaside is a step beyond the first two sets in terms of art so Treasure Map ends up ranking pretty low.
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« Reply #250 on: October 01, 2015, 03:55:00 pm »
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but Seaside is a step beyond the first two sets in terms of art so Treasure Map ends up ranking pretty low.

Perhaps you could say that with Seaside, you don't have to go diving for its pearls.
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« Reply #251 on: October 02, 2015, 04:07:02 pm »
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22. Treasury



The way all these coins are stacked up looks silly and unrealistic. They are all 'facing' the same way too. I like the little dragon near the middle and the small assortment of gems sitting around, but meh, this picture doesn't do it for me. I hope whoever opened that door has an insurance policy because it sure looks like those fat stacks are about to crash down on a brother.
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« Reply #252 on: October 03, 2015, 02:05:45 pm »
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I've always had mixed feelings towards Treasury. On the one hand the perspective is weird as all get out; on the other it's very distinct and fits the card name very well. Plus Treasury has been one of my favorite cards from the beginning.
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« Reply #253 on: October 03, 2015, 03:44:08 pm »
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21. Sea Hag



The Sea Hag resembles a Cabbage Patch Kid. A Cabbage Patch Kid gone wrong who just left an anime convention. I still have no idea why there are black pencil marks drawn all over her torch fire. Aside from succeeding at looking vaguely inhuman, there's not too much for me to love here.
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« Reply #254 on: October 03, 2015, 04:13:17 pm »
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21. Sea Hag



The Sea Hag resembles a Cabbage Patch Kid. A Cabbage Patch Kid gone wrong who just left an anime convention. I still have no idea why there are black pencil marks drawn all over her torch fire. Aside from succeeding at looking vaguely inhuman, there's not too much for me to love here.

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« Reply #255 on: October 03, 2015, 05:22:40 pm »
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« Reply #256 on: October 03, 2015, 10:25:42 pm »
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21. Sea Hag



The Sea Hag resembles a Cabbage Patch Kid. A Cabbage Patch Kid gone wrong who just left an anime convention. I still have no idea why there are black pencil marks drawn all over her torch fire. Aside from succeeding at looking vaguely inhuman, there's not too much for me to love here.

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« Reply #257 on: October 04, 2015, 04:10:16 am »
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« Reply #258 on: October 04, 2015, 03:05:28 pm »
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20. Pearl Diver



The Pearl Diver is secretly one of the many sons of Stretch Armstrong. His special ability comes in handy when diving for pearls that are slightly out of reach. This card is also probably Maura Kalusky's best contribution to Dominion, so credit where credit is due. I do think the head looks really funny in Dominion Online's fortune teller ball thing too. I was going to claim that Pearl Diver was actually blue and feign ignorance about how he's underwater, but you guys can never detect any of my jokes so that seemed a little risky.
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« Reply #259 on: October 04, 2015, 03:23:08 pm »
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« Reply #260 on: October 04, 2015, 04:24:06 pm »
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but you guys can never detect any of my jokes so that seemed a little risky.

It is because you never put it in the super silly joke format!

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« Reply #261 on: October 04, 2015, 05:43:14 pm »
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That's supposed to be Wei-Hwa Huang (designer of Roll for the Galaxy). A prize for winning a little tournament at the Gathering of Friends.

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« Reply #262 on: October 05, 2015, 03:06:14 pm »
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19. Lookout



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« Reply #263 on: October 05, 2015, 03:12:46 pm »
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Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Navigator is supposed to be a depiction of one of the developers, Dale Yu. I'm not sure which is the bigger slap in the face to Dale; jsh ranking the card last in the set or the artist for actually drawing such a lame picture.
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« Reply #264 on: October 05, 2015, 03:33:43 pm »
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Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Navigator is supposed to be a depiction of one of the developers, Dale Yu. I'm not sure which is the bigger slap in the face to Dale; jsh ranking the card last in the set or the artist for actually drawing such a lame picture.
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« Reply #265 on: October 05, 2015, 03:37:19 pm »
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Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Navigator is supposed to be a depiction of one of the developers, Dale Yu. I'm not sure which is the bigger slap in the face to Dale; jsh ranking the card last in the set or the artist for actually drawing such a lame picture.
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