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Dominion vs. Hearthstone shorthand is f-ing me up
« on: August 10, 2015, 05:17:48 pm »
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Every time I hear "topdecking" I think Courtyard.

Every time I hear "BM" I think "no good Actions".
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Re: Dominion vs. Hearthstone shorthand is f-ing me up
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2015, 05:26:48 pm »
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Don't get me started on Minions.
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Re: Dominion vs. Hearthstone shorthand is f-ing me up
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2015, 05:33:49 pm »
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Don't get me started on Minions.
Minions remind me more of League of Legends back when I was playing that.

Go winions (said every time a tower falls to minions)!
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Re: Dominion vs. Hearthstone shorthand is f-ing me up
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2015, 06:23:38 pm »
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Don't get me started on Minions.
Minions remind me more of League of Legends back when I was playing that.

Go winions (said every time a tower falls to minions)!

They're just absolutely everywhere.

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Re: Dominion vs. Hearthstone shorthand is f-ing me up
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2015, 01:20:23 pm »
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you think Dominion + hS is bad? Add MtG lingo to the mix. I've described HS cards using MtG keywords like doublestrike and haste.
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Re: Dominion vs. Hearthstone shorthand is f-ing me up
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2015, 02:03:50 pm »
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you think Dominion + hS is bad? Add MtG lingo to the mix. I've described HS cards using MtG keywords like doublestrike and haste.

I'm surprised HS doesn't have a First Strike mechanic.
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Re: Dominion vs. Hearthstone shorthand is f-ing me up
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2015, 02:18:06 pm »
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you think Dominion + hS is bad? Add MtG lingo to the mix. I've described HS cards using MtG keywords like doublestrike and haste.

I'm surprised HS doesn't have a First Strike mechanic.

Divine Shield is pretty close though.
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Re: Dominion vs. Hearthstone shorthand is f-ing me up
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2015, 02:33:04 pm »
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Haste shows up in about every creature based CCG (except Elements, because everything has haste, except on activated abilities wtf?).  The CCG will either name it something super hipstery that makes people feel like it's somehow a different mechanic, when really it isn't, or it will give it a name that is technically different, but reminds one of the real original keyword, like Charge or Rusher, or it will just completely not give a flip and call it "Haste".  I like the last one the most.

I never call Windfury Double Strike, they are just different enough, to me.

Deathtouch and First Strike both give you significant bonuses for creature vs. creature combat, so they are tricky to balance for Hearthstone since it's easy to arrange some creature vs. creature combat in Hearthstone, while in Magic the Gathering one player can easily unilaterally decide that there will be no creature vs. creature combat all game if he's willing to lose a few life points for it.  Deathtouch has shown up but the cards it appears on are not pushed at all, they're rather cautious.  Deathtouch nombos with buff, so if you restrict the minions that actually get it, you can't make the ability more ridiculous using buffs, so it's very safe balance-wise.  First strike combos with buff, so even cautiously overcosted first strikers run some risk of getting out of hand with buffs, so it would have to be watched so carefully they probably would just rather not do it.


@ Awaclus, Divine Shield has a little similarity but I wouldn't use language nearly as strong as "pretty close".  Shield Minibot can kill two 2/2's, White Knight can kill 9,989 2/2's.
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Re: Dominion vs. Hearthstone shorthand is f-ing me up
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2015, 02:37:54 pm »
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@ Awaclus, Divine Shield has a little similarity but I wouldn't use language nearly as strong as "pretty close".  Shield Minibot can kill two 2/2's, White Knight can kill 9,989 2/2's.

It's close enough that there would be little point in having both in HS.
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Re: Dominion vs. Hearthstone shorthand is f-ing me up
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2015, 02:49:01 pm »
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@ Awaclus, Divine Shield has a little similarity but I wouldn't use language nearly as strong as "pretty close".  Shield Minibot can kill two 2/2's, White Knight can kill 9,989 2/2's.

It's close enough that there would be little point in having both in HS.

It's too similar to be a rival keyword, I agree.  But also not "pretty close".  If you had ommitted the adverb, I'd have said nothing.
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Re: Dominion vs. Hearthstone shorthand is f-ing me up
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2015, 02:59:28 pm »
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Shield Minibot can kill two 2/2's, White Knight can kill 9,989 2/2's.

Alternatively, White Knight can kill exactly one 2/2, if it's double blocked by two of them.
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Re: Dominion vs. Hearthstone shorthand is f-ing me up
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2015, 03:57:45 pm »
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I'm surprised Poison doesn't have a keyword.  It has its own little art on the cards...
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Re: Dominion vs. Hearthstone shorthand is f-ing me up
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2015, 04:01:27 pm »
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Shield Minibot can kill two 2/2's, White Knight can kill 9,989 2/2's.

Alternatively, White Knight can kill exactly one 2/2, if it's double blocked by two of them.

Yeah Shielded Minibot is almost never satisfied with killing one 2/2, its lust for minion flesh is pretty insatiable.  Also, threat level is ALWAYS set to "red alert", even during tavern brawl, duel with a friend, casual play mode, and the "easy" setting on the innkeeper, so it goes out of its way to justify its massacres in a manner even more disingenuous than the threat assessments made by the U.S. government.  First strikers are just so different from that.
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Re: Dominion vs. Hearthstone shorthand is f-ing me up
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2015, 06:22:02 pm »
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I don't know about you guys, but whenever I'm second player with Coin I usually refer to it as being "on the button".
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Re: Dominion vs. Hearthstone shorthand is f-ing me up
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2015, 06:35:56 pm »
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I don't know about you guys, but whenever I'm second player with Coin I usually refer to it as being "on the button".

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Re: Dominion vs. Hearthstone shorthand is f-ing me up
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2015, 02:00:33 pm »
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I don't know about you guys, but whenever I'm second player with Coin I usually refer to it as being "on the button".

You may have Coined that phrase, but it's not going to stick.
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