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Re: Tavern Brawl Discussion
« Reply #325 on: October 22, 2015, 06:54:54 pm »
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gdi I just really need to get 3 paladin wins and I am awful at paladin.

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« Reply #326 on: October 30, 2015, 05:38:37 am »
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Why did I have to draw the win 5 brawls quest in the week they re-run webspinner brawl. :(
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Re: Tavern Brawl Discussion
« Reply #327 on: October 30, 2015, 12:44:44 pm »
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The Joust mechanic is annoying in this Brawl.
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Re: Tavern Brawl Discussion
« Reply #328 on: October 30, 2015, 01:30:43 pm »
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I love this brawl. Dread scale erry day.

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« Reply #329 on: October 30, 2015, 06:49:27 pm »
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This brawl is easily my least favorite of all the random-card brawls. There are so many trash beasts, that once you get done playing out your Webspinners, your hand ends up as absolute garbage most of the time. So almost every play is unpleasantly terrible, except when you luck into something OP like Savannah Highmane, in which case the play is still super boring (play Savannah Highmane, end turn). This also happens to make each game run stupidly long.

The brawl with lowered card costs was more fun because at least most turns you are making a powerful play, most of the games are over quickly, and when the games do last long then it's because the lead was swinging back and forth, not because both players were stuck with trash hands for many turns.
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Re: Tavern Brawl Discussion
« Reply #330 on: October 30, 2015, 07:17:51 pm »
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The only trash beast I've really gotten (other than a late-turns mukla) is the parrot that pulls pirates.

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Re: Tavern Brawl Discussion
« Reply #331 on: October 30, 2015, 09:32:19 pm »
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There are a lot of trash tier beasts in that brawl.

Angry Chicken, Stonetusk, Webspinner, Parrot, Crocolisk, Cobra, Dragonhawk, Raptor, Elephant, Murloc crab,1/4 ape.. like, 80% is crap.
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Re: Tavern Brawl Discussion
« Reply #332 on: October 31, 2015, 04:31:36 am »
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You must not play a lot of Arena if you think Webspinner, River Croc, Bloodfen Raptor, and Elekk are "trash-tier".
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« Reply #333 on: October 31, 2015, 08:21:49 am »
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You must not play a lot of Arena if you think Webspinner, River Croc, Bloodfen Raptor, and Elekk are "trash-tier".
Croc/Raptor are OK as 2-drops, but in this brawl you are unlikely to have one in hand on turn 2, and anyway you have a perfectly acceptable play of 2 webspinners on that turn. On later turns, they are subpar plays. Even in arena, where you can realistically play them as 2-drops, they're only rated average on heartharena's tier list. I think it's fair to call them bad in this brawl, and arguably trash.

Elekk whiffs nearly always in this brawl (Webspinner vs Webspinner) so it's basically just a raptor, so it's bad for the same reason as raptor.

I agree with you though that getting webspinner from webspinner is good here.

(I don't claim to be an expert on strategy in this brawl though. It's too painful to actually sit through the games to gain that experience...)
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Re: Tavern Brawl Discussion
« Reply #334 on: October 31, 2015, 11:07:20 am »
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You must not play a lot of Arena if you think Webspinner, River Croc, Bloodfen Raptor, and Elekk are "trash-tier".
Elekk whiffs nearly always in this brawl (Webspinner vs Webspinner) so it's basically just a raptor, so it's bad for the same reason as raptor.

Nearly always? How can you ever win besides a deck being empty?
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Re: Tavern Brawl Discussion
« Reply #335 on: October 31, 2015, 11:37:50 am »
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You must not play a lot of Arena if you think Webspinner, River Croc, Bloodfen Raptor, and Elekk are "trash-tier".
Elekk whiffs nearly always in this brawl (Webspinner vs Webspinner) so it's basically just a raptor, so it's bad for the same reason as raptor.

Nearly always? How can you ever win besides a deck being empty?

Gang Up and the Druid beast that gets shuffled into your deck come to mind.
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Re: Tavern Brawl Discussion
« Reply #336 on: October 31, 2015, 11:38:35 am »
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You must not play a lot of Arena if you think Webspinner, River Croc, Bloodfen Raptor, and Elekk are "trash-tier".
Elekk whiffs nearly always in this brawl (Webspinner vs Webspinner) so it's basically just a raptor, so it's bad for the same reason as raptor.

Nearly always? How can you ever win besides a deck being empty?

And an opponent's Recycle.
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Re: Tavern Brawl Discussion
« Reply #337 on: November 04, 2015, 11:18:28 am »
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big surprise, the new brawl is actually intersting. It's cooperative.
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Re: Tavern Brawl Discussion
« Reply #338 on: November 04, 2015, 03:34:13 pm »
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I love it.  I've also not won yet.  Best I've done is get it down to 10/2.
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Re: Tavern Brawl Discussion
« Reply #339 on: November 04, 2015, 06:36:48 pm »
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I like the new one, but I feel like you probably need really good shuffle luck to succeed. Hint: the paladin deck has a creature that gets +1 attack while in your hand every time one of your own creatures dies. I suspect this is a major choice of wincon in conjunction with "give this minion divine shield".

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Re: Tavern Brawl Discussion
« Reply #340 on: November 04, 2015, 06:41:55 pm »
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I like the new one, but I feel like you probably need really good shuffle luck to succeed. Hint: the paladin deck has a creature that gets +1 attack while in your hand every time one of your own creatures dies. I suspect this is a major choice of wincon in conjunction with "give this minion divine shield".

Actually I think the Priest's Millhouse Mana Storm, and the Lo Walker Cho are much bigger win conditions. Both decks are loaded with draw, and I think it's not too hard to win.
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Re: Tavern Brawl Discussion
« Reply #341 on: November 04, 2015, 06:58:37 pm »
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I like the new one, but I feel like you probably need really good shuffle luck to succeed. Hint: the paladin deck has a creature that gets +1 attack while in your hand every time one of your own creatures dies. I suspect this is a major choice of wincon in conjunction with "give this minion divine shield".

Until you notice there's Assasinates flying around.
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Re: Tavern Brawl Discussion
« Reply #342 on: November 04, 2015, 07:15:29 pm »
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Cho is definitely super good.
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Re: Tavern Brawl Discussion
« Reply #343 on: November 04, 2015, 07:24:09 pm »
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I managed to beat it once. I don't think there was any one thing that caused us to win; we just chipped away at him with medium-sized creatures and I tried to play around his removal as much as possible. Lorewalker Cho and Millhouse both did some work, but didn't win all at once. Blessed Champion is really good.

One helpful fact is that Assassinate will always target the minion with the highest attack, and breaks ties by targeting the earlier-played one. So it's usually best to spread around your bananas, put Divine Shield on the second-largest minion, and save big buffs for minions that can attack.
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Re: Tavern Brawl Discussion
« Reply #344 on: November 04, 2015, 07:25:06 pm »
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the paladin "double a minion's attack" blessing is pretty awesome.

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« Reply #345 on: November 04, 2015, 07:25:32 pm »
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I suspect if you can work out the logic the bot uses to throw the various cards, you could win fairly reliably.

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Re: Tavern Brawl Discussion
« Reply #346 on: November 04, 2015, 08:52:26 pm »
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I don't like co-op with random people in general, so I was only gonna like this if it was amazing... and it's not. I find it a bit frustrating how you can't do much with the given decks without sticking a minion on the board, and often he'll just randomly remove them.

I suspect if you can work out the logic the bot uses to throw the various cards, you could win fairly reliably.
I've seen him use Assassinate on an empty board, so I'm pretty sure it's just random.
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« Reply #347 on: November 04, 2015, 11:08:58 pm »
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But when he does use assassinate, it targets the highest attack minion.
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Re: Tavern Brawl Discussion
« Reply #348 on: November 05, 2015, 03:46:52 am »
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I played twice and won the second time.  The main contribution was from an Earthen Ring Farseer who survived several rounds of buff/shield/attack and finally took a Blessed Champion to get in two hits before finishing him off with the detritus left on board.
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Re: Tavern Brawl Discussion
« Reply #349 on: November 13, 2015, 09:14:45 pm »
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Nefarian can't actually lose right?  I had one Lay on Hands me for BM, for crying out loud.

Also had one T1 concede to me—not sure what that was about, as that's normally the correct play for Ragnaros.
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