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Adam is bad at kingdom design
« on: May 19, 2015, 12:43:12 pm »
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So through my endless enthusiasm for Dominion I've put myself in a situation where I'm responsible for selecting kingdoms for a high-profile match on a regular basis, and also I'll be designing kingdoms for an IRL tournament. This is awesome, except for the fact that I don't think I'm particularly good at kingdom design.

For the league champion match, I usually have some other people I can consult with -- other commentators and league moderators. We get the job done. I consider this an easier job because it's kingdom evaluation instead of kingdom design, so at worst I can just play them and see how I feel at the end of it. Extra help is usually appreciated here, but it's probably more helpful if I know that the helping person is unlikely to be playing in a Champion Match any time soon. That's why I'm a good fit for this :P

But this IRL tournament, there are an interesting set of constraints for these kingdoms, and I happen to know that some people out there are pretty enthusiastic about kingdom design. It would be nice to have some people out there who I could consult with -- particularly people from far away who I know aren't going to this tournament. I know of a couple of people who I'll be contacting soon, but I'd like to see if there's anyone out there that would like to participate in my kingdom design adventures.

So let me know. PM me or reply here.
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Re: Adam is bad at kingdom design
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2015, 01:11:07 pm »
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King's Court, Possession, Wharf, Fishing Village, Chapel, Grand Market, Band of Misfits, Procession, Cultist, Fortress.
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Re: Adam is bad at kingdom design
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2015, 01:17:11 pm »
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I'm far away and I think I'm also somewhat decent at kingdom design.
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Re: Adam is bad at kingdom design
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2015, 02:35:42 pm »
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King's Court, Possession, Wharf, Fishing Village, Chapel, Grand Market, Band of Misfits, Procession, Cultist, Fortress.

Is it bad that this post gave me butterflies?
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Re: Adam is bad at kingdom design
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2015, 02:38:29 pm »
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King's Court, Possession, Wharf, Fishing Village, Chapel, Grand Market, Band of Misfits, Procession, Cultist, Fortress.

Is it bad that this post gave me butterflies?

Probably, since it doesn't have much to do with the original topic. It appears the purpose of this kingdom is to build a deck that does nothing but play as many Possessions as possible each turn. Not exactly the type of kingdom I'm looking for  :-\
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Re: Adam is bad at kingdom design
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2015, 02:58:50 pm »
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I'd appreciate it if everyone could keep this thread on topic, which is posting kingdoms that Adam won't use for his tournament.
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Re: Adam is bad at kingdom design
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2015, 03:17:18 pm »
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I'd appreciate it if everyone could keep this thread on topic, which is posting kingdoms that Adam won't use for his tournament.

Well, if we come up with enough kingdoms that he -shouldn't- use,  by default he'll be left with all the ones that he should.

Sound logic to me.
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Re: Adam is bad at kingdom design
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2015, 05:27:07 pm »
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Re: Adam is bad at kingdom design
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2015, 05:36:12 pm »
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But this IRL tournament, there are an interesting set of constraints for these kingdoms
What are the constraints?

Here's a nice kingdom:
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embargo, crossroads, native village, apothecary, guide, monument, silk road, count, tactician, treasure trove

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Re: Adam is bad at kingdom design
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2015, 05:36:42 pm »
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Watchtower, 9 cards that combo with watchtower.

I'll give serious help if you want it too, and constraints are cool.
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Re: Adam is bad at kingdom design
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2015, 05:44:42 pm »
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What are the constraints?

I sort of don't want to make them public, because if someone sees them it might be unfair in some universes. Suffice it to say that they're constraints you might run into if you were running an IRL tournament.

If you want to help, I can tell you  ;)
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Re: Adam is bad at kingdom design
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2015, 05:45:46 pm »
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Words can not explain how much I love designing kingdoms. Do you mind some adventures cards in the mix?
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Re: Adam is bad at kingdom design
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2015, 05:47:37 pm »
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Words can not explain how much I love designing kingdoms. Do you mind some adventures cards in the mix?

I'd like to use all the expansions, yes.
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Re: Adam is bad at kingdom design
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2015, 08:43:12 pm »
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I have never tried my hand at Kingdom Design, so I'm curious what different people take into account when they do this.  Where do you start?  What do you consider?  How do you balance things?
I think this would be an interesting article to read.  (but of course don't write it until you respond to Adam's OP ;) )
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Re: Adam is bad at kingdom design
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2015, 08:52:42 pm »
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I have never tried my hand at Kingdom Design, so I'm curious what different people take into account when they do this.  Where do you start?  What do you consider?  How do you balance things?
I think this would be an interesting article to read.  (but of course don't write it until you respond to Adam's OP ;) )

Here's a useful guide by Polk5440: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11099.msg378452#msg378452
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Re: Adam is bad at kingdom design
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2015, 11:14:08 pm »
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Count me in.  I typically hand-pick any kingdom I play in real life.  I tend to skew toward engine games, but I can probably whip up something less railroaded if you like.  If you can PM me the constraints, I'll send you a few kingdoms.
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Re: Adam is bad at kingdom design
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2015, 12:50:36 am »
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I'm pretty good at kingdom design. I would love to help. Just PM me the details. Also, I plan on running an irl tournament soon, so I know about constraints.
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Re: Adam is bad at kingdom design
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2015, 04:27:13 am »
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I'm happy to help with this.

I have the opposite constraint to JaquesThe Bard in that I've never played with Adventures. Count me in unless you want Adventures cards in all your kingdoms!
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Re: Adam is bad at kingdom design
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2015, 05:16:34 am »
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Re: Adam is bad at kingdom design
« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2015, 08:41:06 am »
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Would this thread help?

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11251

Unfortunately, if the kingdom is publicly posted somewhere I really shouldn't use it, just in case  :-\
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Re: Adam is bad at kingdom design
« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2015, 09:03:55 am »
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I might have to come up with a Kings Island theme for your IRL tournament.
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Re: Adam is bad at kingdom design
« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2015, 09:08:48 am »
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I might have to come up with a Kings Island theme for your IRL tournament.

Mason is very close to King's Island, which will be open by that point :P

BTW, to everyone who has responded in this thread, I'll hopefully be able to whip up a PM by the end of the week with all the details. I still need to pull some information together, the big piece of information I still don't have ready to fly right now is about sleeves.
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Re: Adam is bad at kingdom design
« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2015, 09:11:44 am »
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Unless I'm mistaken, KI is already open. ;)
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Re: Adam is bad at kingdom design
« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2015, 09:43:14 am »
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King's Court, Possession, Wharf, Fishing Village, Chapel, Grand Market, Band of Misfits, Procession, Cultist, Fortress.

You forgot Goons.
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