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Kuildeous

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Evaluating common games mathematically
« on: May 14, 2015, 02:27:53 pm »
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Seriously, I wish they didn't use the dumb headline of how to win any popular game. Knowing the popular spaces in chess will not give you a win, but I'm sure it can help out.

Sadly I'm not in a spot to watch the videos right now. I hope to do that later.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/05/08/how-to-win-any-popular-game-according-to-data-scientists/?hpid=z4

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Re: Evaluating common games mathematically
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2015, 03:57:37 pm »
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Quote from: Kuildeous on May 14, 2015, 02:27:53 pm
Seriously, I wish they didn't use the dumb headline of how to win any popular game. Knowing the popular spaces in chess will not give you a win, but I'm sure it can help out.
I mean, not really. The same info is conveyed by the well known idiom that you should strive to control the center.
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Re: Evaluating common games mathematically
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2015, 06:33:34 pm »
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I'm sure you can come up with very unhelpful chess statistics if you really wanted to such as
- the spaces where most pieces are lost (probably the center)
- the space where the king is most often checkmated (probably its starting space)

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Re: Evaluating common games mathematically
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2015, 07:15:55 pm »
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Better advice for the coin toss than not letting the same person choose and toss would be to not let the person tossing catch the coin in mid-air.
Also, have a disinterested third-party be the one to toss the coin.

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Re: Evaluating common games mathematically
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2015, 08:05:01 pm »
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Quote from: DG on May 14, 2015, 06:33:34 pm
I'm sure you can come up with very unhelpful chess statistics if you really wanted to such as
- the space where the king is most often checkmated (probably its starting space)
Yeah, that one's probably true, if you take into account all the children's games that end with Scholar's Mate. At the sort of levels where you'll get games going into databases, checkmate is pretty rare, so it's hard to know what results you'd get from those.
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Re: Evaluating common games mathematically
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2015, 05:42:17 am »
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Re: Evaluating common games mathematically
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2015, 08:53:29 am »
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Pretty sure "winning strategy" is a specific term that only applies to solved games..
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