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Quality of card images on wiki
« on: April 26, 2015, 09:13:29 pm »
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When first putting up Adventures images for the wiki, I scanned them at 300 dpi.  Essentially, a little lower quality, for a couple reasons.  1) It scans faster and 2) It's a lower resolution, so if any lint or hair or dust or whatever gets stuck on the card or the scanner, all it takes is a couple eyedropper/pencil strokes in paint to pretend they never happened.  However, the images look a bit "washed out", particularly some of the cards with art that has a lighter background.

When I was rescanning Prosperity and Adventures cards, I scanned them at 400 dpi.  This was definitely a higher quality image where you could see details better, but 1) This makes it scan longer, and if there's lint/dust/whatever it takes me longer to deal with it, or else I have to wipe everything and rescan and 2) They look like newspaper cutouts for some reason. 

Maybe it's just my shitty scanner, but I can't seem to scan cards so they look like the images on the wiki for Base through Alchemy.

So I'm leaving it up to you people - which do you prefer?  Is "washed out" fine, and I can call it a day?  Or would you prefer "newspaper", given that it looks better and fits more with the other scanned cards?  I don't mind rescanning, just don't expect it to be done tonight.

Washed out cards:



Newspaper cards:

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Re: Quality of card images on wiki
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2015, 09:33:25 pm »
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I would do the "washed out" for all of them, and then redo the ones where it looks really bad (e.g. lost city) at a higher resolution later.
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Re: Quality of card images on wiki
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2015, 09:41:10 pm »
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I prefer newspaper, but not enough to make anyone scan all the cards again.
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Re: Quality of card images on wiki
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2015, 10:45:27 pm »
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I prefer newspaper, but not enough to make anyone scan all the cards again.

It's fine.  I have a fair amount of free time anyway.
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Re: Quality of card images on wiki
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2015, 10:46:38 pm »
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That you could spend playing Adventures instead!
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Re: Quality of card images on wiki
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2015, 10:47:40 pm »
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That you could spend playing Adventures instead!

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Re: Quality of card images on wiki
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2015, 11:02:35 pm »
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Also just realized that now that I'm updating the pictures you can't see the difference anymore...
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Re: Quality of card images on wiki
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2015, 11:46:32 pm »
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(1) Clean your scanner surface with a lint-free cloth.
(2) Scan at 2400 dpi.
(3) ???
(4) Profit.
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Re: Quality of card images on wiki
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2015, 12:11:20 am »
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My scanner only goes up to 600 dpi.
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Re: Quality of card images on wiki
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2015, 01:14:52 am »
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Also just realized that now that I'm updating the pictures you can't see the difference anymore...

That's like how my opponent and I both suffered from turns where we couldn't buy the amount of Peddlers we anticipated because we had played Knights that revealed other knights and got trashed mid-turn.


Okay maybe it's not similar.
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Re: Quality of card images on wiki
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2015, 01:57:45 am »
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There must be something wrong with me, but I can't see the difference at all.

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Re: Quality of card images on wiki
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2015, 02:29:40 am »
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There must be something wrong with me, but I can't see the difference at all.

Oh, I thought you were being facetious.
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Re: Quality of card images on wiki
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2015, 03:20:35 am »
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I really don't know why you'd bother to scan at something lower than your scanner's max DPI.

Yeah it takes longer, but you multitask during that time; it takes the same amount of effort to put the card in and run the scan... and gives a better result.

The higher DPI images in the OP look much nicer. Perhaps their brightness/contrast should be tweaked, but the detail is great and obviously better.
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Re: Quality of card images on wiki
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2015, 05:12:04 am »
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I prefer the newspaper style. More details are visible and the contrast is soft.

The washed out cards look like bad low-budget displays. Dark parts are just black and bright areas are white without any details. The contrast is way too high. Maybe you could do some postprocessing to improve the image quality.
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Re: Quality of card images on wiki
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2015, 06:14:14 am »
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The yellow, it ows.
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Re: Quality of card images on wiki
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2015, 07:54:32 am »
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There must be something wrong with me, but I can't see the difference at all.

Heh. Maybe I should adjust color settings on my display. Because now, me being at work, the difference is clearly seen (and second option looks way nicer).

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Re: Quality of card images on wiki
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2015, 08:18:51 am »
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Can you just up the brightness / saturation on the Newspaper cards? I don't like how the first cards are so washed out, and the only problem for me with the second set of cards is that they're a bit dark.
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Re: Quality of card images on wiki
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2015, 10:00:21 am »
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When I had a scanner, there was an option called "reduce moiré". Without checking that, I got the "newspaper" version. Checking that, no problem. I'm sure your scanner has the same or something that works the same.

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« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2015, 10:02:41 am »
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On my iPod the 2nd set look nicer.
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Re: Quality of card images on wiki
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2015, 10:38:03 am »
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The yellow, it ows.

Actually, that's black and blue, not white and yellow.
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Re: Quality of card images on wiki
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2015, 10:40:19 am »
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When I had a scanner, there was an option called "reduce moiré". Without checking that, I got the "newspaper" version. Checking that, no problem. I'm sure your scanner has the same or something that works the same.

It's the "reduce moire" setting that gives it the washed out look.  :/
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Re: Quality of card images on wiki
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2015, 11:54:00 am »
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Are moire pattern visible without that option active? I do not expect that because short period patterns are rare in dominion card art.
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Re: Quality of card images on wiki
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2015, 12:25:06 pm »
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Are moire pattern visible without that option active? I do not expect that because short period patterns are rare in dominion card art.

Any printed image, if you look at it very closely, is going to be printed as a stippling of four primary colors: magenta, cyan, yellow and black.



What the "reduce moire" setting is doing here is not actually getting rid of any moire, because there isn't any - it's smoothing out that stippling.  Unfortunately, the quality of my scanner means that picking that option washes out the image.

Without reducing "moire":



With reducing "moire":

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Re: Quality of card images on wiki
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2015, 12:30:34 pm »
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Here's a more contrasting example:

Without reducing "moire":



With reducing "moire":

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Re: Quality of card images on wiki
« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2015, 12:45:29 pm »
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OK I got it.
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