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French Preview : Pistage / Quête
« on: April 09, 2015, 07:59:51 am »
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French distributor of Dominion (Ystari) make an article on his website with 2 events we doesn't know yet.
http://www.ystari.com/?p=3283

In French : Pistage -> In English : Tracking (?)
In French : Quête  -> In English : Quest (?)

Pistage/Tracking : cost $2
+1 buy, Look at the top 5 cards of your deck. Discard 3 and place the other cards on top of your deck in any order.

Quête/Quest : cost $0
You can discard one Attack card or 2 curses or any 6 cards. In this case, gain a gold
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Re: French Preview : Pistage / Quête
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2015, 08:08:35 am »
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That translation of Quest makes no sense.

Tracking seems pretty sweet. $2 seems a reasonable price tag for that ability.

EDIT: Hmm, well, if Quest is to be taken literally I guess that means you discard from your current hand. So, if you have an unused attack, get a free gold. Have two curses, get a free gold. Not bad actually. This also can make one think twice about going for a curser. Very interesting. The first time I read Quest, for some reason, I thought it was referring to your hand for the next turn. For the cost of $0, this is actually pretty darn strong. Sure, I will discard a Fortune Teller for a gold. 6 cards seems a bit trickier though.
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Re: French Preview : Pistage / Quête
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2015, 08:27:31 am »
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That translation of Quest makes no sense.

...it's easy to understand:


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Quête/Quest : cost $0
You may discard one Attack card, or 2 curses, or any 6 cards. If you do, gain a Gold.

The fact that Quest still costs a buy makes it more expensive than it looks.
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Re: French Preview : Pistage / Quête
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2015, 08:30:12 am »
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That translation of Quest makes no sense.

...it's easy to understand:


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Quête/Quest : cost $0
You may discard one Attack card, or 2 curses, or any 6 cards. If you do, gain a Gold.

The fact that Quest still costs a buy makes it more expensive than it looks.

My misunderstanding came from the fact that for some weird reason I thought it was referring to your hand for the next turn.
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Re: French Preview : Pistage / Quête
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2015, 08:31:52 am »
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Quest should be good against Haunted Woods.
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Re: French Preview : Pistage / Quête
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2015, 08:34:41 am »
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Tracking seems like a card that really adds a lot of strategic depth. Man, this expansion is really going to make our heads hurt.
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Re: French Preview : Pistage / Quête
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2015, 08:36:17 am »
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That translation of Quest makes no sense.

Tracking seems pretty sweet. $2 seems a reasonable price tag for that ability.
I was unable to find an example an example of an "if you do" clause in Dominion cards translated to French on google. I assume Quest(?) reads:

"You may discard an Attack Card, 2 Curses or any 6 cards. If you do, gain a gold."

How do you capture having to discard the specified amount of cards to get an effect. Like, do you actually have to trash 2 csrd s to get Mercenary's effect, or can you get the draw even if you only trash one card?

"Dans ce cas " really does translate to "in this case" though. Maybe that's just how those kinds of effects are written in French.

This event would mean you can still buy Gold with weak hands. Say you play a Smithy but still come up short on $6, you can just buy this event. The other conditions can come into play too of course.
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Re: French Preview : Pistage / Quête
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2015, 08:39:29 am »
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If you thought a double Ambassador opening was good before…
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Re: French Preview : Pistage / Quête
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2015, 08:42:31 am »
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If you thought a double Ambassador opening was good before…

That's one way to take care of Ambassador collision.
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Re: French Preview : Pistage / Quête
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2015, 08:55:46 am »
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The more I think about it, the more I think the Attack option will be the most useful on Quest. You can overbuy terminal attacks without fear of collision
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Re: French Preview : Pistage / Quête
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2015, 09:00:15 am »
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The more I think about it, the more I think the Attack option will be the most useful on Quest. You can overbuy terminal attacks without fear of collision

It's certainly the option I've used most often, but I have used all three.
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Re: French Preview : Pistage / Quête
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2015, 09:04:48 am »
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If you thought a double Ambassador opening was good before…

That's one way to take care of Ambassador collision.

Now I'm starting to wonder if Ambassador/Stonemason(Ambassador/Ambassador) is a good opening on a board with Baker and Quest.
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Re: French Preview : Pistage / Quête
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2015, 09:13:16 am »
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If you thought a double Ambassador opening was good before…

That's one way to take care of Ambassador collision.

Now I'm starting to wonder if Ambassador/Stonemason(Ambassador/Ambassador) is a good opening on a board with Baker and Quest.

…You still want your Ambassadors to line up with pairs of Copper or Estate, right?
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Re: French Preview : Pistage / Quête
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2015, 09:15:46 am »
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I guess there is no harm in stating those translations are, though not perfect, accurate to what the cards do.  I'll let you guys speculate on the name of the first one, though.

Quest is hilarious with Tunnel, btw.
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Re: French Preview : Pistage / Quête
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2015, 09:49:20 am »
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Guess we already have a couple translations!
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Re: French Preview : Pistage / Quête
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2015, 09:58:20 am »
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I'm really happy that there are more free events/ones that give a buy, because I didn't want borrow to be the only one.

I don't see myself having 6 cards I'm willing to discard for a gold very often.
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Re: French Preview : Pistage / Quête
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2015, 10:01:48 am »
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I'm really happy that there are more free events/ones that give a buy, because I didn't want borrow to be the only one.

I don't see myself having 6 cards I'm willing to discard for a gold very often.

Imagine you're in a bad slog, but you have some draw.  Every now and then, you draw enough bad cards to justify this.  Quest is a neat card in Cursing games in general.
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Re: French Preview : Pistage / Quête
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2015, 10:02:36 am »
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I'm really happy that there are more free events/ones that give a buy, because I didn't want borrow to be the only one.

I don't see myself having 6 cards I'm willing to discard for a gold very often.
What if you were looking to buy a Gold anyway, but came short on cash. But yeah, the other options feel more natural.
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Re: French Preview : Pistage / Quête
« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2015, 10:05:15 am »
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"Dans ce cas " really does translate to "in this case" though. Maybe that's just how those kinds of effects are written in French.

That's how it's translated (check "Prêteur sur Gages", for example). Otherwise they would have to write "Si vous le faites", which is a bit longer.

I don't see myself having 6 cards I'm willing to discard for a gold very often.

BM+Terminal Draw? Especially with Witch.
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Re: French Preview : Pistage / Quête
« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2015, 10:08:19 am »
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I'm really happy that there are more free events/ones that give a buy, because I didn't want borrow to be the only one.

I don't see myself having 6 cards I'm willing to discard for a gold very often.

I've done this many times with Vault.  It's common to not discard the Coppers... but you might as well.  Same thing here, those three Coppers and three greens weren't doing much for you, take a Gold instead.
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Re: French Preview : Pistage / Quête
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2015, 10:10:48 am »
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Uhh, so sounds like none of you 4 are actually dissagreeing with me. I said not very often... and note that in thise same scenarios I am also reasonably likely to have two curse or an attack card. Sometimes you won't have those things and you'll have to use the third option, but that won't be very often.
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Re: French Preview : Pistage / Quête
« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2015, 10:11:15 am »
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If you don't have an Attack or Curse or 6 cards in hand, can you still buy a Quest to just discard as many cards as you can?
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Re: French Preview : Pistage / Quête
« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2015, 10:12:12 am »
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If you don't have an Attack or Curse or 6 cards in hand, can you still buy a Quest to just discard as many cards as you can?

Yes.  Hence the amazing synergy with Tunnel.
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Re: French Preview : Pistage / Quête
« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2015, 10:21:22 am »
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When there is no more curse, my SeaHag go in a quest trying to imitate Soothsayer !
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Re: French Preview : Pistage / Quête
« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2015, 10:26:02 am »
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Uhh, so sounds like none of you 4 are actually dissagreeing with me. I said not very often... and note that in thise same scenarios I am also reasonably likely to have two curse or an attack card. Sometimes you won't have those things and you'll have to use the third option, but that won't be very often.

I don't think you are going to discard your attack card unless it's dead in your hand.

I think all +2 cards Actions are going to be good with Quest in BM, but special mention on Courtyard.
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