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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« Reply #2550 on: July 24, 2015, 01:49:32 pm »

I'm leaning your way; I want to hear from e, because he'll either confirm he's scum to make you the kingmaker (probably not because you said you're leaning town) or he'll try to convince me he's town.

As of right now I am leaning towards ash. I want the day action window to end to confirm something though, but that's where I stand. Ash's story makes sense.

Ash what's your wincon?

Be alive when someone wins.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« Reply #2551 on: July 24, 2015, 01:52:40 pm »

Also how do you have a killing power?!

It's flavor related, from what I can see.  I gained it when Tara died.  It wasn't in my original QT message -- it was added N2.   Without quoting, it was talking about how Xander and Tara were dead and I was really angry.

I didn't use it until I was pretty sure I was going to hit scum/narrow down the field.

Also, Hydrad probably Sidekicked someone, and that's why he died.  If he Sidekicked 2.7, he would have taken my shot from there, plus if either scum shot him.  That'd be two kills, one doctor protection, and he'd die.

Don't know why we weren't thinking about that.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« Reply #2552 on: July 24, 2015, 01:53:37 pm »

Arch was "devil's advocate" which I'm not sure what that is. Advocate is not a role on the wiki.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« Reply #2553 on: July 24, 2015, 01:58:45 pm »

My problem is why did you shoot hockey? He couldn't have been scum because that would have made me scum and made it either another 2 person team, or a three person team, a two person team and three solo teams. I don't see the reasoning behind shooting him?

Also you said you knew that e was scum... Is this because you shot him or something else? If you knew he was scum, why did you shoot hockey and arch and not the confirmed scum in your eyes?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« Reply #2554 on: July 24, 2015, 02:03:14 pm »

My problem is why did you shoot hockey? He couldn't have been scum because that would have made me scum and made it either another 2 person team, or a three person team, a two person team and three solo teams. I don't see the reasoning behind shooting him?

Also you said you knew that e was scum... Is this because you shot him or something else? If you knew he was scum, why did you shoot hockey and arch and not the confirmed scum in your eyes?

I didn't "know" he was scum, so much as I was absolutely SURE he is scum.

Like I said, I needed to confirm you two weren't lying (crazy things were happening).  This could have been an epic backfire if both of them had been town...except, well, I could have just claimed anyway and won with whichever scum team wanted to use me.

As I've pointed out, third parties do whatever it takes to win.  I put myself in the position to win either way, and I'm giving you the option to win.  2.7 gets the same option, of course, but I'm literally offering it to you.

You could hammer me and scum wins.  But that isn't in your best interest.  Or you could hammer 2.7 and we both win, together.

So was my choice to kill hockey strictly best for town?  Probably not.  It was best for me, though.  You can hold that against me if you want, but it worked out for you in the end.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« Reply #2555 on: July 24, 2015, 02:04:53 pm »

For what it's worth, I did play the game as much as possible to win with town.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« Reply #2556 on: July 24, 2015, 02:04:59 pm »

Wait no you're lying.

There were 5 people left. You, the masons, arch, and e.

You win, apparently, when another team wins. You only had to shoot arch and e and you would've won no matter what my alignment was.

The thing is, that's not your win con. Had you done that, you would've been lynched because hockey and I both know we're town.

Good game, man.

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« Reply #2557 on: July 24, 2015, 02:06:28 pm »

Good game 2.7, you mean.

I lose.  You lose.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« Reply #2558 on: July 24, 2015, 02:06:34 pm »

You're either scum, and I was right, or a SK, in which e is scum and I kingmake him.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« Reply #2559 on: July 24, 2015, 02:07:21 pm »

You were wrong, dude.  Sorry.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« Reply #2560 on: July 24, 2015, 02:08:14 pm »

Why would you choose to give 2.7 the win anyway?

No offense to him, but man I played this game way better than he did, and deserved the win over him.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« Reply #2561 on: July 24, 2015, 02:09:05 pm »

You wouldn't have done that if that was really your win con.

Also, you know I can invite so you're trying to convince me too.

You can't lose if that's your win con too. Gg
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« Reply #2562 on: July 24, 2015, 02:09:41 pm »

Oh no you still lose, but that's not your win con anyway.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« Reply #2563 on: July 24, 2015, 02:10:11 pm »

My role name is self-aligned Vengeful Witch.

That really irks me that you'd choose the 2.7/EgorK scum team to have the win over me after over 100 pages of game.

Doesn't seem right.  What a waste of effort and energy for me.

Feels like you just fucked me over for spite.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« Reply #2564 on: July 24, 2015, 02:10:48 pm »

You wouldn't have done that if that was really your win con.

Also, you know I can invite so you're trying to convince me too.

You can't lose if that's your win con too. Gg

I can't win if I'm lynched.  Which I am.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« Reply #2565 on: July 24, 2015, 02:11:00 pm »

Had that actually been your win con you would've killed e and 2.7 because hockey and I would be alive. Had we been scum, we both win. Since we're town, you still win,

You're lying.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« Reply #2566 on: July 24, 2015, 02:12:46 pm »

Had that actually been your win con you would've killed e and 2.7 because hockey and I would be alive. Had we been scum, we both win. Since we're town, you still win,

You're lying.

Not spite, I just caught you in a lie.

You were actually convincing me too, I was even watching e to try to see what he did today.

Then I realized you had to be lying.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« Reply #2567 on: July 24, 2015, 02:13:28 pm »

Whatever.  It's my own fault for leaving you alive after you showed how you felt about me earlier in the game.

I was NOT scum, for fuck's sake.  If faust is still alive, he'll confirm it for you when he writes the flip and awards the win to 2.7/EgorK, who had to do literally NOTHING to win the game but let you lynch me.

Faust, great game.  Sorry I'm so bitter, it isn't at you.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« Reply #2568 on: July 24, 2015, 02:14:57 pm »

Whatever.  It's my own fault for leaving you alive after you showed how you felt about me earlier in the game.

I was NOT scum, for fuck's sake.  If faust is still alive, he'll confirm it for you when he writes the flip and awards the win to 2.7/EgorK, who had to do literally NOTHING to win the game but let you lynch me.

Faust, great game.  Sorry I'm so bitter, it isn't at you.

Did you read what I wrote?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« Reply #2569 on: July 24, 2015, 02:17:51 pm »

Had that actually been your win con you would've killed e and 2.7 because hockey and I would be alive. Had we been scum, we both win. Since we're town, you still win,

You're lying.

Not spite, I just caught you in a lie.

You were actually convincing me too, I was even watching e to try to see what he did today.

Then I realized you had to be lying.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« Reply #2570 on: July 24, 2015, 02:18:01 pm »

Had that actually been your win con you would've killed e and 2.7 because hockey and I would be alive. Had we been scum, we both win. Since we're town, you still win,

You're lying.

Not spite, I just caught you in a lie.

You were actually convincing me too, I was even watching e to try to see what he did today.

Then I realized you had to be lying.

Why is me lying so bad that you'd prefer 2.7's scum team to win over 3rd party me?

Like, you got to choose who won, given you were going to lose anyway.  You made a conscious decision to let a scum team that just didn't play that well or hard (I guess 2.7 survived all this time, and that's good, and he clearly made some good night action choices) win over me.

Maybe I'm just self-centered, but it took a lot of effort to stay alive all this time.  And you were like "welp, fuck that, have a win, scum team #2."
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« Reply #2571 on: July 24, 2015, 02:18:44 pm »

Your choice was:

1.  Ash wins.
2.  2.7/EgorK wins.

You chose #2.  The most likely reason for that is spite.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« Reply #2572 on: July 24, 2015, 02:19:43 pm »

Whatever.  It's my own fault for leaving you alive after you showed how you felt about me earlier in the game.

I was NOT scum, for fuck's sake.  If faust is still alive, he'll confirm it for you when he writes the flip and awards the win to 2.7/EgorK, who had to do literally NOTHING to win the game but let you lynch me.

Faust, great game.  Sorry I'm so bitter, it isn't at you.

Did you read what I wrote?

What you wrote has nothing to do with why you chose to give the win to the 2.7/EgorK scum team over me.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« Reply #2573 on: July 24, 2015, 02:20:27 pm »

2.7 lied too, at some point in this game.

Why is his lie okay and my lie not?  How do you make that qualitative judgement?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« Reply #2574 on: July 24, 2015, 02:20:48 pm »

You had no reason to lie about your win con, and you must have because you wouldn't have killed those two people since you could've just won the game right out.

Your attempts to make me switch after I caught you in a lie are somewhat disrespectful. Please stop. It is a game, get over it.

Had that actually been your win con you would've killed e and 2.7 because hockey and I would be alive. Had we been scum, we both win. Since we're town, you still win,

You're lying.

Not spite, I just caught you in a lie.

You were actually convincing me too, I was even watching e to try to see what he did today.

Then I realized you had to be lying.

Why is me lying so bad that you'd prefer 2.7's scum team to win over 3rd party me?

Like, you got to choose who won, given you were going to lose anyway.  You made a conscious decision to let a scum team that just didn't play that well or hard (I guess 2.7 survived all this time, and that's good, and he clearly made some good night action choices) win over me.

Maybe I'm just self-centered, but it took a lot of effort to stay alive all this time.  And you were like "welp, fuck that, have a win, scum team #2."

Why is lying so bad?! Probably because the only way this narrative works is if you are right and telling the truth. But by your confirmation, you're lying. So I don't believe you, so I think you're egor's partner and e is town.
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