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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1000 on: June 24, 2015, 10:19:44 am »

EgorK, why didn't you accuse me of being scum, since I'm also a demon? And if you're town, why didn't you tell all of us these subsets? It would make finding scum MUCH easier. Because you suspected that demons dind't have to equal scum? In that case, your initial Awaclus vote doesn't make much sense.

As much as I still doubt ADK is town, and I'm starting to come with terms with my investigation being tampered with, I think you're scum. Because your claim doesn't seem to add up.

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How this could help town aside from catching someone lying about alignment (and for that reason it should be kept secret)?
Why do you assume you was in the subset on which my power was exercised?
You see, you are the one whose claim do not add up at the moment. I understand that there may be reasons for it, but still, this looks like you try to redirect attention from you.

See, the reason I asked about if your power was global or not was because I wanted to know if it affected everyone, which  you now say it didn't?

I answered right there, I am not sure what you want to say:

EgorK, was your investigation global?

I've already said. It returned all demons in some subset of players
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1001 on: June 24, 2015, 10:25:59 am »

Tara's a witch and Willow's love interest.

Tara feels vaguely fake-claimy, and Spike could easily be both a fake claim and/or evil. Spike as a fake claim would even make you safe if someone detected you as a vampire.

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1002 on: June 24, 2015, 10:42:25 am »

Tara's a witch and Willow's love interest.

Tara feels vaguely fake-claimy, and Spike could easily be both a fake claim and/or evil. Spike as a fake claim would even make you safe if someone detected you as a vampire.

Wait, Willow was a lesbian?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1003 on: June 24, 2015, 10:42:53 am »

Tara's a witch and Willow's love interest.

Tara feels vaguely fake-claimy, and Spike could easily be both a fake claim and/or evil. Spike as a fake claim would even make you safe if someone detected you as a vampire.

More importantly, what do you think of the recent Egor/Lekkit interaction?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1004 on: June 24, 2015, 11:06:24 am »

Tara's a witch and Willow's love interest.

Tara feels vaguely fake-claimy, and Spike could easily be both a fake claim and/or evil. Spike as a fake claim would even make you safe if someone detected you as a vampire.

Wait, Willow was a lesbian?

Well, she has a boyfriend at one point, so it's probably more complex than that.

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1005 on: June 24, 2015, 11:07:10 am »

Tara's a witch and Willow's love interest.

Tara feels vaguely fake-claimy, and Spike could easily be both a fake claim and/or evil. Spike as a fake claim would even make you safe if someone detected you as a vampire.

More importantly, what do you think of the recent Egor/Lekkit interaction?

Makes me more confident that one of them is scum. I'm still betting on Egork.

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1006 on: June 24, 2015, 11:10:11 am »

Tara's a witch and Willow's love interest.

Tara feels vaguely fake-claimy, and Spike could easily be both a fake claim and/or evil. Spike as a fake claim would even make you safe if someone detected you as a vampire.

More importantly, what do you think of the recent Egor/Lekkit interaction?

Makes me more confident that one of them is scum. I'm still betting on Egork.

Does it seem kind of artificial?  Like, they only started suspecting each other once someone pointed out that hey, they should be doing that.  All of the sudden scum reads pop up.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1007 on: June 24, 2015, 11:18:10 am »

...that's a good point.

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1008 on: June 24, 2015, 12:28:38 pm »

EgorK, why didn't you accuse me of being scum, since I'm also a demon? And if you're town, why didn't you tell all of us these subsets? It would make finding scum MUCH easier. Because you suspected that demons dind't have to equal scum? In that case, your initial Awaclus vote doesn't make much sense.

As much as I still doubt ADK is town, and I'm starting to come with terms with my investigation being tampered with, I think you're scum. Because your claim doesn't seem to add up.

Vote: EgorK

How this could help town aside from catching someone lying about alignment (and for that reason it should be kept secret)?
Why do you assume you was in the subset on which my power was exercised?
You see, you are the one whose claim do not add up at the moment. I understand that there may be reasons for it, but still, this looks like you try to redirect attention from you.

See, the reason I asked about if your power was global or not was because I wanted to know if it affected everyone, which  you now say it didn't?

I answered right there, I am not sure what you want to say:

EgorK, was your investigation global?

I've already said. It returned all demons in some subset of players

The way I interpreted it was that you got all players grouped together in smaller groups, each group had a demon.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1009 on: June 24, 2015, 12:49:41 pm »

I thought he meant he could get an answer to something like "How many demon players satisfy condition X."
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1010 on: June 24, 2015, 01:05:25 pm »

Their intetaction seems awful scummy and forced, I agree with WW.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1011 on: June 24, 2015, 01:10:34 pm »

Vote: EgorK

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1012 on: June 24, 2015, 01:17:40 pm »

Vote Count 2.7

Awaclus (2): ashersky, mail-mi
EgorK (5): hockeysemlan, chairs, Delirious Deleuze, Lekkit, Witherweaver
A Drowned Kernel (1): EgorK
Witherweaver (1): Awaclus

Not Voting (4): 2.71828....., Ichimaru Gin, silverspawn, A Drowned Kernel

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1013 on: June 24, 2015, 01:24:04 pm »

The case is fine and the lynch would be informative.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1014 on: June 24, 2015, 01:24:22 pm »

Vote: EgorK, this is L-1
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1015 on: June 24, 2015, 02:42:43 pm »

On phone for a minute. Should I hammer?

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1016 on: June 24, 2015, 02:46:15 pm »

On phone for a minute. Should I hammer?

I guess claiming isn't as necessary in RMM, but Egor still had a fullclaim to do, right? Last word-ish maybe should be in place?

Or what is praxis here..? 
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1017 on: June 24, 2015, 03:48:13 pm »

Definitely give him a last word. If he's actually town, before the hammer he can give thoughts on what it means when he flips. If he flips and is scum we can ignore it, but if he's town then we have a last word/perspective to read into.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1018 on: June 24, 2015, 04:24:27 pm »

Egor? Eh, I still want awaclus. But Egor's lynch will definitely be informative, so I'm for it.

I'll hammer if IG hasn't after Egor says stuff.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1019 on: June 24, 2015, 04:31:56 pm »

I know Tara is in the game.  I don't know if she's town or not.

I'd prefer not to lynch her.

We can pretty easily confirm either role via results.  Or through the lynch of Awa, which I still prefer.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1020 on: June 24, 2015, 04:38:17 pm »

I know Tara is in the game.  I don't know if she's town or not.

I'd prefer not to lynch her.

We can pretty easily confirm either role via results.  Or through the lynch of Awa, which I still prefer.

Through the lynch of Awa, we can only confirm that I'm 1-shot lynchproof.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1021 on: June 24, 2015, 04:38:42 pm »

I know Tara is in the game.  I don't know if she's town or not.

I'd prefer not to lynch her.

We can pretty easily confirm either role via results.  Or through the lynch of Awa, which I still prefer.

Why do you not prefer that lynch? Also how can we "easily" confirm role via results?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1022 on: June 24, 2015, 04:42:25 pm »

I think Egork is a good lynch.

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1023 on: June 24, 2015, 04:47:18 pm »

My biggest concern with Awaclus is that 1-shot lynchproof is generally provided to anti-Town roles (e.g. Survivor).

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1024 on: June 24, 2015, 04:48:21 pm »

That said I would generally prefer an Egork lynch, or possibly somebody that hasn't gotten any attention at all (but I'm not sure anybody qualifies on that front).

SS - can you do that vote count history thingy and see if there's anybody who's been surprisingly light?
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