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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #800 on: June 19, 2015, 01:05:02 pm »

Faust can't answer my question. I could ask it again tonight, (and maybe have chairs give me the two-times power again?) except with "invite."

My concern with this is that I think you're a likely NK target.

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #801 on: June 19, 2015, 01:05:52 pm »

Also. It's bad, bad, bad to vote someone in the pool of protected people.
You're also defending Awaclus--who is incredibly suspect to me at this point.

I think everyone is misunderstanding hockey's power. It wasn't "protected and not protected" as far as I can tell, it was "split everyone into two rooms. People in Room A can't do anything to people in Room B and vice-versa".

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #802 on: June 19, 2015, 01:06:19 pm »

I mean, granted, I could be wrong, but that's what it appears to be based on the way it's been trickled out.

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #803 on: June 19, 2015, 01:07:28 pm »

Also. It's bad, bad, bad to vote someone in the pool of protected people.
You're also defending Awaclus--who is incredibly suspect to me at this point.

I think everyone is misunderstanding hockey's power. It wasn't "protected and not protected" as far as I can tell, it was "split everyone into two rooms. People in Room A can't do anything to people in Room B and vice-versa".

I think it was only one directional.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #804 on: June 19, 2015, 01:09:34 pm »

Also. It's bad, bad, bad to vote someone in the pool of protected people.
You're also defending Awaclus--who is incredibly suspect to me at this point.

I think everyone is misunderstanding hockey's power. It wasn't "protected and not protected" as far as I can tell, it was "split everyone into two rooms. People in Room A can't do anything to people in Room B and vice-versa".

I think it was only one directional.
Yeah, that was my understanding. So the people that were protected couldn't be targeted by people who weren't protected; but, the people who were protected could target anyone they wanted.

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #805 on: June 19, 2015, 01:12:35 pm »

Also. It's bad, bad, bad to vote someone in the pool of protected people.
You're also defending Awaclus--who is incredibly suspect to me at this point.

It's not that bad if there's a good reason to believe someone in there (such as WW) is scum. And defending Awaclus is a pro-town thing to do, since scum could just push the easy mislynch, waste two entire days mislynching a townie, and probably even get away with it.

Faust can't answer my question.

See, this is what I was trying to say.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #806 on: June 19, 2015, 01:21:02 pm »

Also, we're at D2. If Awaclus and I were scum partners, do you think I'd defend him this hard? I think it'd be better to stay sidelined or even pop him myself for the credit.

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #807 on: June 19, 2015, 01:26:09 pm »

Also, we're at D2. If Awaclus and I were scum partners, do you think I'd defend him this hard? I think it'd be better to stay sidelined or even pop him myself for the credit.

I don't think you're scum partners, but I do think Awaclus is scum. I think you're just wrong in defending him. I honestly don't trust him and as of right now we have a tentative scum result and a lie result, better than anything else we have to go on.

I think he'd give that to silver just to get town cred, at the very least, or maybe to a scum partner under the guise of trying to help town. Again, could've given it to me or hockey, but instead gives it to someone that isn't confirmed town because he thinks it just might help more.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #808 on: June 19, 2015, 01:53:08 pm »

I don't think you're scum partners, but I do think Awaclus is scum. I think you're just wrong in defending him. I honestly don't trust him and as of right now we have a tentative scum result and a lie result, better than anything else we have to go on.

Yeah, where "tentative scum result and a lie result" == "nothing and a false result", respectively. Which is absolutely not better than the case on WW.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #809 on: June 19, 2015, 02:00:12 pm »

I don't think you're scum partners, but I do think Awaclus is scum. I think you're just wrong in defending him. I honestly don't trust him and as of right now we have a tentative scum result and a lie result, better than anything else we have to go on.

Yeah, where "tentative scum result and a lie result" == "nothing and a false result", respectively. Which is absolutely not better than the case on WW.

What's the case on WW, again?

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #810 on: June 19, 2015, 02:00:41 pm »

FWIW my top Town reads this game so far are awaclus and mail-mi.

That's even over hockey and DeDe, our claimed masons.

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #811 on: June 19, 2015, 02:30:14 pm »

FWIW my top Town reads this game so far are awaclus and mail-mi.

That's even over hockey and DeDe, our claimed masons.

Are you doubting their masonhood?  You shouldn't.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #812 on: June 19, 2015, 02:31:14 pm »

Or, at least, RMM-version-of-mason-hood
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #813 on: June 19, 2015, 02:32:46 pm »

What's the case on WW, again?

  • Posting a massive amount of absolutely nothing
  • Scummy position on the Hydrad wagon
  • Pseudo-contributing towards my D1 wagon without really committing to anything
  • Buddying various people who had claimed something
  • Nervous response to my accusations in the neighborhood QT
    • Scum reads on mail-mi and silverspawn (who I believe are town) for weak reasons

    Or you could go read him yourself and come to your own conclusions. Doing so is a huge pain in the ass though, because of the first point.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #814 on: June 19, 2015, 02:53:42 pm »

Wait. Were people protected or untargetable? If they were untargetable, someone MUST have redirected me to someone else OR the protection didn't work for some reason AND Awaclus is lying.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #815 on: June 19, 2015, 02:56:53 pm »

I don't agree with the first point; the second point is wrong---Hydrad was a good choice for yesterday.  I don't really know what the third point means.  The people that have claimed something so far have had reason to be believed.  I had no nervous response to you; that is confirmation bias. 

I wasn't aware of my scum reads on Mail-Mi and Silverspawn.  I think I didn't really like Mail-Mi wagon yesterday, and I don't remember what Silverspawn was like. 
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #816 on: June 19, 2015, 02:57:31 pm »

Also. I'm a demon, if that matters.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #817 on: June 19, 2015, 02:57:38 pm »

Wait. Were people protected or untargetable? If they were untargetable, someone MUST have redirected me to someone else OR the protection didn't work for some reason AND Awaclus is lying.

I'm glad we agree you were redirected or otherwise made to receive bad data.

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #818 on: June 19, 2015, 03:07:47 pm »

What's the case on WW, again?

  • Posting a massive amount of absolutely nothing
  • Scummy position on the Hydrad wagon
  • Pseudo-contributing towards my D1 wagon without really committing to anything
  • Buddying various people who had claimed something
  • Nervous response to my accusations in the neighborhood QT
    • Scum reads on mail-mi and silverspawn (who I believe are town) for weak reasons

    Or you could go read him yourself and come to your own conclusions. Doing so is a huge pain in the ass though, because of the first point.
Wait a second... Uhm why did you choose WW to be in your neighborhood? [/list]
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
« Reply #819 on: June 19, 2015, 03:40:13 pm »

    Wait a second... Uhm why did you choose WW to be in your neighborhood? [/list]

    I had to make the choice during the day action window, and I had to make it in a hurry because some IRL stuff suddenly came up that day and I wasn't sure if I would have been back before the deadline. At that point, I just chose people arbitrarily. Then it turned out that said IRL stuff didn't need me after all, which is why I was around for the deadline, but I didn't really see a reason to change my targets anymore.

    Inviting WW turned out to be a brilliant idea however, because that meant he couldn't target me, mail-mi or silverspawn. Perhaps scum wanted to kill mail-mi, and that's why they had a non-WW scum perform the kill, which then failed.
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    Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
    « Reply #820 on: June 19, 2015, 03:42:18 pm »

    Brilliant.  You've foiled all of our plans.  MVP to you.
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    Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
    « Reply #821 on: June 19, 2015, 03:42:51 pm »

    ... why would scum want to kill Mail-Mi?
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    Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
    « Reply #822 on: June 19, 2015, 03:44:08 pm »

    I am waiting for some clarification from faust
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    Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
    « Reply #823 on: June 19, 2015, 03:44:41 pm »

    DD/Hockey, I'm unclear:

    Can those in the "protected" group target those outside of the "protected" group?
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    Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D2)
    « Reply #824 on: June 19, 2015, 03:47:25 pm »

    ... why would scum want to kill Mail-Mi?

    I don't know if you did. It's a possibility, though.

    I am waiting for some clarification from faust

    What kind of clarification?
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