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Author Topic: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (Game over - Vampires win!)  (Read 258208 times)

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #550 on: June 16, 2015, 10:00:55 am »

Vote Count 1.10

mail-mi (2): Delirious Deleuze, hockeysemlan
EgorK (4): Ichimaru Gin, silverspawn, mail-mi, chairs
Awaclus (1): Lekkit
A Drowned Kernel (2): EgorK, 2.71828.....
Witherweaver (3): ashersky, Awaclus, Hydrad
Hydrad (1): Witherweaver

Not Voting (1): A Drowned Kernel

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. D1 ends on June 16, noon forum time. That's in 2 hours.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #551 on: June 16, 2015, 10:01:57 am »

Any second opinions?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #552 on: June 16, 2015, 10:11:04 am »

No one thinks Hydrad is scummy?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #553 on: June 16, 2015, 10:18:09 am »

I could go for Hydrad. vote: Hydrad
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #554 on: June 16, 2015, 10:18:25 am »

I do.  vote: Hydrad
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #555 on: June 16, 2015, 10:35:12 am »

why Hydrad? I'm of course bad at reading him, but from skimming through his posts, I don't really see what makes him so scummy.

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #556 on: June 16, 2015, 10:36:33 am »

Hydrad is ok. Vote: Hydrad
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #557 on: June 16, 2015, 10:43:59 am »

why Hydrad? I'm of course bad at reading him, but from skimming through his posts, I don't really see what makes him so scummy.

Well, mostly an alternative to Egor and ADK, and me of course.  Plus that weird hedgey post about trying out lynching me (yeah, yeah, his sig).  I don't think he has a whole lot of content, and he's been mostly wagon jumping.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #558 on: June 16, 2015, 10:44:42 am »

DD and hokey are still on Mail-Mi.. have we decided to not do Mail-Mi because of the Chairs thing?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #559 on: June 16, 2015, 10:45:35 am »

DD and hokey are still on Mail-Mi.. have we decided to not do Mail-Mi because of the Chairs thing?

I think so.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #560 on: June 16, 2015, 10:45:59 am »

I prefer Egork to hydrad though. and the fact that we're having so much resistance now just makes me want to lynch Egork more.

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #561 on: June 16, 2015, 10:47:01 am »

Hydrad - His initial thoughts on flavor claiming I think aren't the best.  I mean, all he says is that he doesn't care.  So his thoughts aren't bad in that I disagree with him, they are bad in that I can't disagree with him.  Non-committal, hedgy.  His thoughts on the dayvig are interesting.  He starts against it, but then changes his mind and is for it.  I usually think developing opinions and openly sharing your thoughts is a town characteristic, but I am not sold here.  His reasoning for being against it is that "scum can manipulate town" better D1.  Then he changes his mind because it will give us a "more meaningful D1."  That feels a lot like arguing for a D1 no-lynch because "we usually lynch town" but then realizing that the townie position is actually that we should lynch, even if we miss and hit town.  Thus the flip-flop.  The next strike against him is when he asks chairs if he should flavor claim if he feels like chairs is town.  It just feels very martyr-ish to me.  "Hey guys, I can take the bullet to help out chairs here.  No, really, its no problem, I think he is town."  I mean, that might be an exaggeration (ok, it is an exaggeration), but I don't get warm fuzzies there.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #562 on: June 16, 2015, 10:50:44 am »

They are at 4/4 right now I believe

EgorK (4): Ichimaru Gin, silverspawn, mail-mi, chairs
Hydrad (4): Witherweaver, ADK, 2.7, EgorK

Voting other places (6): Delirious Deleuze, hockeysemlan, ashersky, Awaclus, Hydrad, Lekkit
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #563 on: June 16, 2015, 10:52:33 am »

oh yeah, I guess there was that.

Hm.

dunno, I just... I'm feeling Egork. It feels like we'll hit scum! but Hydrad is an option, also because he's so hard to read later on.

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #564 on: June 16, 2015, 10:54:58 am »

Egor doesn't feel like we hit scum to me. 
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #565 on: June 16, 2015, 10:56:43 am »

So I was going to wait until Egork did the Hydrad reread before sleeping so that I could defend myself and stuff if needed. But it seems to be taking longer then I thought.

Also I think just 4 hours left.

Last time we lynched someone who was away at deadline he was town (silverspawn).  I don't know how I feel about lynching Hydrad while he is gone, especially since he did not feel the need to basically guarantee EgorK's lynch by voting for him.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #566 on: June 16, 2015, 10:58:19 am »

let's see their voting histories:

#69: Hydrad votes mail-mi (L-7)
#417: Egork votes A Drowned Kernel (L-7)
#457: Hydrad votes Egork (L-6)
#529: Hydrad votes Witherweaver (L-5)
#556: Egork votes Hydrad (L-4)

oh, uhm, that's, well, short. eh. not really anything to go on. If anything it makes both of them scummy.

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #567 on: June 16, 2015, 10:59:06 am »

also this

Oh hey thats nice of you. Now we can stop worrying about going on Egork for just a lynch to go through.

I wanna go

Vote: WW

'hey, now I can stop bussing'

This is a fun narrative.  But the chances that we have a two scum as targets D1 seems low to me.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #568 on: June 16, 2015, 11:01:21 am »

This is a fun narrative.  But the chances that we have a two scum as targets D1 seems low to me.

yeah... well, if they are both scum, we're lynching scum either way, since it's between them now.

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #569 on: June 16, 2015, 11:01:47 am »

I think I'll stay on Egork.

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #570 on: June 16, 2015, 11:07:11 am »

Hydrad:

69: RVS vote on mail-mi
71: thinks he do not care much of flavor claiming but says he do not know much about flavor
97-98, 100: Dayvig is ok, but may be more useful later
108-109: In favor of dayvig because it is extra lynch
147: Gives DD day 1 pass for content
155: Vigvotes Awaclus
158: Do not want to vig mail-mi or DD
288: PoE list - http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=12917.msg499860#msg499860
291: Thinks that e hadn't done much yet to warrant crossing off list
296: Thinks my post about mail-mi is towny
388: Thinks that chairs is town, asks whether he should flavor claim
389: thinks that shooting Ghacob do not provide much info
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457: votes for me, do not want to lynch ADK right now
495: says he ok hoping to WW
499: says WW vote on him is curious
529: switches to WW after mod mentions that there no need to have a absolute majority to lynch in this game

Would not mind switching here. I still think ADK is SK with big probability, but Hydrad is good candidate to be scum. On the other hand he always feel scummy

Hydrad's contribution is also pretty poor here: it's all theory/setup, side comments here and there without actually contributing anything.  And his voting history is very safe, middle of wagons everywhere, nothing controversial.  These are scum!Hydrad traits.

Is Egor cherry-picking Hydrad posts to make him look bad?  Well, let's do our own reread.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #571 on: June 16, 2015, 11:10:04 am »

Oh, your voting history should include vigvotes.

Hydrad:
Mail-Mi (RVS)
Awaclus (vigvote)
Egork (real vote)
WW (real vote)

Okay there's only one more vote there.  He didn't explain why he went for Awaclus, though I find that more towny.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #572 on: June 16, 2015, 11:11:53 am »

Also, 26 total posts from Hydrad.  Very low numbers for him. Egor is at 21.

Egor votes:
Mail-Mi (vigvote)
ADK (real vote)
Hydrad (real vote)

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #573 on: June 16, 2015, 11:22:43 am »

I don't feel the Egor lynch at all. I don't even see why he's scummy. He's contributing, but not super much. That could be said about most peple in this game, though. Hydrad on the other hand is just flopping around all over the place, wouldn't mind lynching him. Although I would prefer and ADK lynch. I don't buy his claim. One bit. And I still haven't gotten any good explanation as to why he'd claim and shoot day 1.

Vote: Hydrad
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #574 on: June 16, 2015, 11:23:53 am »

I would also still be up for a Awaclus lynch. Everything he does is disagree with people without actually contributing.
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