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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #325 on: June 12, 2015, 10:29:23 am »

Wrong.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #326 on: June 12, 2015, 10:31:59 am »

also, unvote my initial vote.  I don't need it hanging out on someone I think is town
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #327 on: June 12, 2015, 10:32:36 am »

Also, mason claims.  Totally see that happening in a game this size, sounds believable to me right now.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #328 on: June 12, 2015, 10:34:26 am »

Unvigv0te

I'm not sure who I  prefer now. 
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #329 on: June 12, 2015, 10:37:06 am »

unvote

But I'm keeping vigv0te: Mail-Mi
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #330 on: June 12, 2015, 10:40:09 am »

We have an hour and a half, we should probably discuss who to vig vote.

I think I've listed all my thoughts, what do others think and why?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #331 on: June 12, 2015, 10:51:27 am »

Also, for the record, I think I'd be tempted to shoot one of the players I can never figure out, or that would be dangerous as scum, or that we wouldn't miss as town.

I think this this is what I would do.

Basically, choosing between an experienced vet who is a 50/50 shot in your mind at being scum, or a lurker.  I would shoot from the first category, which is why I am vigv0ting WW. 

He certainly can be very good scum, and his posts today have been useful, but not entirely convincing as town to me. 
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #332 on: June 12, 2015, 11:07:19 am »

Please don't shoot mail-mi. I'd like him to stay alive for D2 as he is a known-good target for my power and can confirm it's been utilized on him (although I would prefer he keep the details of the power secret, it is one that he will get to see the results of to provide feedback on its utility to Town).

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #333 on: June 12, 2015, 11:08:41 am »

Please don't shoot mail-mi. I'd like him to stay alive for D2 as he is a known-good target for my power and can confirm it's been utilized on him (although I would prefer he keep the details of the power secret, it is one that he will get to see the results of to provide feedback on its utility to Town).

also, scum, make sure you don't kill him.  kthxbye
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #334 on: June 12, 2015, 11:11:52 am »

Please don't shoot mail-mi. I'd like him to stay alive for D2 as he is a known-good target for my power and can confirm it's been utilized on him (although I would prefer he keep the details of the power secret, it is one that he will get to see the results of to provide feedback on its utility to Town).

If it matters:

vigv0te: WW

Haven't liked his play that very much. It's aggressive, short and pushy in my mind. Doesn't need to be scum, but could as well be.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #335 on: June 12, 2015, 11:13:12 am »

Please don't shoot mail-mi. I'd like him to stay alive for D2 as he is a known-good target for my power and can confirm it's been utilized on him (although I would prefer he keep the details of the power secret, it is one that he will get to see the results of to provide feedback on its utility to Town).

If prefer it's use on me, since hockey can confirm me town and I honestly don't trust mail-mi. If it's alright with everyone I can flavor claim. I don't think it'll give much to scum to have just me claim.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #336 on: June 12, 2015, 11:18:43 am »

Please don't shoot mail-mi. I'd like him to stay alive for D2 as he is a known-good target for my power and can confirm it's been utilized on him (although I would prefer he keep the details of the power secret, it is one that he will get to see the results of to provide feedback on its utility to Town).

If prefer it's use on me, since hockey can confirm me town and I honestly don't trust mail-mi. If it's alright with everyone I can flavor claim. I don't think it'll give much to scum to have just me claim.

I think it would be fine for you to claim flavor.  It helps chairs in that he has multiple targets and doesn't have to be locked in on one person (which is what I was trying to say with my last post).  I still don't like a full flavor claim by everyone, but 2 or 3 people is fine.

I still am not claiming my flavor at least.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #337 on: June 12, 2015, 11:24:03 am »

My PoE list is:

e
Hydrad
Ichi
Silver
Ghacob
Awaclus
Mail-Mi

Secondary (i.e., crossed off but not really a strong read) would be:

Chairs
Ash
Lekkit

Definitely no-kill is:

Hockey
Wither
DeDe

Thoughts on the list:

Silver: I'm inclined to think that the sole defending of Hockey is suspicious a la white knighting.  He seemed somewhat genuine, though.  Probably towards the bottom of preference.
Ichi: Pretty null here.  He goes after DeDe after I cast initial suspicion on DeDe, then goes to Hockey when that picks up some steam, so some suspicion there.
Hydrad: I can't remember any content from him.
e: I don't have a read here.  Lower on preference I think.
Ghacob: I'm not sure what to think about him.  His treatment of Mail-Mi I thought was a little odd.. he was voting Mail-Mi, Ash pushed hard, and then Ghacob unvoted? 
Awaclus: I don't think there's much content there.
Mail-Mi: Jumped on the hockey wagon, but he was right that hockey was scummy.  If he was scum looking for a reason, he had a perfectly good townie one.  I'm not sure what else he's done except argue against shooting.  Being the only person to do so, that's a little bit of town points (logic being scum doesn't like to stand alone---lots of attention).

I guess my preference would be the unknowns first, something like.

Awaclus > Hydrad > Ichi > Ghacob > e > Mail-Mi > Silver

That ordering isn't too precise, though.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #338 on: June 12, 2015, 11:27:55 am »

Please don't shoot mail-mi. I'd like him to stay alive for D2 as he is a known-good target for my power and can confirm it's been utilized on him (although I would prefer he keep the details of the power secret, it is one that he will get to see the results of to provide feedback on its utility to Town).

If prefer it's use on me, since hockey can confirm me town and I honestly don't trust mail-mi. If it's alright with everyone I can flavor claim. I don't think it'll give much to scum to have just me claim.

I think it would be fine for you to claim flavor.  It helps chairs in that he has multiple targets and doesn't have to be locked in on one person (which is what I was trying to say with my last post).  I still don't like a full flavor claim by everyone, but 2 or 3 people is fine.

I still am not claiming my flavor at least.

I agree mass claim is bad.

I'm Rupert Giles. I'd prefer you use it on me, since I don't quite trust mail-no yet.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #339 on: June 12, 2015, 11:29:38 am »

It kind of depends on what the power is, though.  If it's investigation related, it doesn't need to be used on you.  If it's some other thing, then it makes sense. 
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #340 on: June 12, 2015, 11:34:01 am »

Please don't shoot mail-mi. I'd like him to stay alive for D2 as he is a known-good target for my power and can confirm it's been utilized on him (although I would prefer he keep the details of the power secret, it is one that he will get to see the results of to provide feedback on its utility to Town).

I get that, but this seems to imply it's not investigation based, since he gets the results too.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #341 on: June 12, 2015, 11:35:27 am »

It kind of depends on what the power is, though.  If it's investigation related, it doesn't need to be used on you.  If it's some other thing, then it makes sense.

yeah.  In general I really don't like trying to direct actions D1.  Later in the game as we get more information we can look into more precise coordination.  For now, I think leaving options open is the best
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #342 on: June 12, 2015, 11:37:38 am »

We're pretty close to out of time, and it's probably very, very bad if I don't use this. At moment, I'm thinking Ghacob for the shot.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #343 on: June 12, 2015, 11:40:55 am »

Please don't shoot mail-mi. I'd like him to stay alive for D2 as he is a known-good target for my power and can confirm it's been utilized on him (although I would prefer he keep the details of the power secret, it is one that he will get to see the results of to provide feedback on its utility to Town).

If prefer it's use on me, since hockey can confirm me town and I honestly don't trust mail-mi. If it's alright with everyone I can flavor claim. I don't think it'll give much to scum to have just me claim.

I think it would be fine for you to claim flavor.  It helps chairs in that he has multiple targets and doesn't have to be locked in on one person (which is what I was trying to say with my last post).  I still don't like a full flavor claim by everyone, but 2 or 3 people is fine.

I still am not claiming my flavor at least.

I agree mass claim is bad.

I'm Rupert Giles. I'd prefer you use it on me, since I don't quite trust mail-no yet.

Based on your flavor, my ability will have no effect on you and you would not be notified of its usage.

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #344 on: June 12, 2015, 11:42:12 am »

(No, I'm not currently willing to reveal what is different between the two of you that makes this the case. I wish I could, but I think it might reveal my flavor and in so doing provide scum even more clues).

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #345 on: June 12, 2015, 11:42:49 am »

We're pretty close to out of time, and it's probably very, very bad if I don't use this. At moment, I'm thinking Ghacob for the shot.

That was unexpected.. I'm not against it per se, but have anyone voted him?

PPE:1
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #346 on: June 12, 2015, 11:44:44 am »

Please don't shoot mail-mi. I'd like him to stay alive for D2 as he is a known-good target for my power and can confirm it's been utilized on him (although I would prefer he keep the details of the power secret, it is one that he will get to see the results of to provide feedback on its utility to Town).

If prefer it's use on me, since hockey can confirm me town and I honestly don't trust mail-mi. If it's alright with everyone I can flavor claim. I don't think it'll give much to scum to have just me claim.

I think it would be fine for you to claim flavor.  It helps chairs in that he has multiple targets and doesn't have to be locked in on one person (which is what I was trying to say with my last post).  I still don't like a full flavor claim by everyone, but 2 or 3 people is fine.

I still am not claiming my flavor at least.

I agree mass claim is bad.

I'm Rupert Giles. I'd prefer you use it on me, since I don't quite trust mail-no yet.

Based on your flavor, my ability will have no effect on you and you would not be notified of its usage.

That's fine. I just don't trust mail-mi, is all.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #347 on: June 12, 2015, 11:45:11 am »

We're pretty close to out of time, and it's probably very, very bad if I don't use this. At moment, I'm thinking Ghacob for the shot.

I don't think he's a great shot. I don't think anybody has really been suspecting him :/
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #348 on: June 12, 2015, 11:47:15 am »

We're pretty close to out of time, and it's probably very, very bad if I don't use this. At moment, I'm thinking Ghacob for the shot.

That was unexpected.. I'm not against it per se, but have anyone voted him?

PPE:1

Well you were/are actually voting for him.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #349 on: June 12, 2015, 11:50:36 am »

Out of time! Kill: Ghacob this is kind of hasty but I'll explain more in a bit.
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