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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #75 on: June 09, 2015, 05:46:15 pm »

Quote from: flavor
"Ugh... yes, of course I can how that's dangerous.

I think there's a 'see' missing
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #76 on: June 09, 2015, 06:06:15 pm »

I have a 1-shot Dayvig.

I'm claiming this because I think that I should probably use it on the first day, and that we should basically treat it like a second lynch, with people voting on who I should shoot. That way it's basically like we skip a night phase.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #77 on: June 09, 2015, 06:08:45 pm »

I have a 1-shot Dayvig.

I'm claiming this because I think that I should probably use it on the first day, and that we should basically treat it like a second lynch, with people voting on who I should shoot. That way it's basically like we skip a night phase.

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #78 on: June 09, 2015, 06:10:14 pm »

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Also. vote: Delerious Deleuze for lurking.

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #79 on: June 09, 2015, 06:15:41 pm »

On an unrelated note, Delirious Deleuze and I know each other IRL. Just a heads up.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #80 on: June 09, 2015, 06:15:56 pm »

On an unrelated note, Delirious Deleuze and I know each other IRL. Just a heads up.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #81 on: June 09, 2015, 06:23:34 pm »

I have a 1-shot Dayvig.

I'm claiming this because I think that I should probably use it on the first day, and that we should basically treat it like a second lynch, with people voting on who I should shoot. That way it's basically like we skip a night phase.

Hm...I'm willing to trust that you're town right now, but having a 1-shot dayvig as a scum roll could be there just to throw us off.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #82 on: June 09, 2015, 06:46:33 pm »

so, what do other people think about flavor claims?

Setup says
Quote from: setup
6. Flips, flavor and role names
Each role comes with a flavor name from either of the series "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and "Angel". It also comes with a role name that gives a short flavorful description of what the role does. These role names need not follow established terminology.
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Flavor knowledge is not required (though helpful) to play the game.

to me, that sounds like scum!who!knows!the!flavor could gain information about which players are more likely to be powerful PR's. I don't think that's worth the risk.

Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of flavor claiming.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #83 on: June 09, 2015, 06:50:11 pm »

72 hours from game start seems like a pretty narrow window to find a "second lynch" day 1 in a game with 15 players.

I think claiming this looks bad.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #84 on: June 09, 2015, 06:51:30 pm »

Vote: Silverspawn for being all cautious.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #85 on: June 09, 2015, 06:52:14 pm »

72 hours from game start seems like a pretty narrow window to find a "second lynch" day 1 in a game with 15 players.
Oh yeah, there's that window. Let's not do it today.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #86 on: June 09, 2015, 06:52:21 pm »

I'm not sure, I think there are two ways to look at it.

1) lynching later has a higher % to hit scum -> claiming is bad
2) using it day 1 means more information on future days -> claiming is good

I think it's up to ADK how to use his power, if he thinks claiming it right away is the best way, then that's okay. And it's too late to change that now anyway.

Doesn't make him an IC though.

I hope that this at least stops players from treating day 1 as not important. Day 1 is super important.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #87 on: June 09, 2015, 06:52:54 pm »

72 hours from game start seems like a pretty narrow window to find a "second lynch" day 1 in a game with 15 players.
Oh yeah, there's that window. Let's not do it today.

oh, right. that's a thing. Now I get it. Mh, yeah, that makes it look bad.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #88 on: June 09, 2015, 06:53:25 pm »

ADK, did you forget about the action window, or did you decide to claim anyway?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #89 on: June 09, 2015, 07:41:51 pm »

I am opposed to flavor claiming.  For all the reasons that everyone is usually opposed to flavor claiming.

And there are so many people in this game.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #90 on: June 09, 2015, 07:48:21 pm »

Also, 1-shot day-vig sounds townie.  I mean, do you really think scum are going to have a role where they have to publicly kill someone during the day?

Wait, do you announce it in this thread or do you have a qt that you would post in?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #91 on: June 09, 2015, 07:49:18 pm »

Because if he can day-vig someone without announcing it in the thread and he told us about it?  I mean, I think ADK is town for now.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #92 on: June 09, 2015, 10:09:41 pm »

I have a 1-shot Dayvig.

I'm claiming this because I think that I should probably use it on the first day, and that we should basically treat it like a second lynch, with people voting on who I should shoot. That way it's basically like we skip a night phase.

Hm...I'm willing to trust that you're town right now, but having a 1-shot dayvig as a scum roll could be there just to throw us off.

Scum or town, it doesn't matter as far as the vig goes, so long as we control the shot.

I like shooting today, even with the short time frame.  Like, if someone has zero posts, policy vig them.  (Except that person is probably town, because scum would post.)
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #93 on: June 09, 2015, 11:06:17 pm »

ADK, did you forget about the action window, or did you decide to claim anyway?

I decided to claim anyway. I think that shooting day one is a good enough idea on its own that doing it in such a short frame is acceptable (if we can get a consensus), and there are other factors that make using it right away a good idea.

Also, 1-shot day-vig sounds townie.  I mean, do you really think scum are going to have a role where they have to publicly kill someone during the day?

Wait, do you announce it in this thread or do you have a qt that you would post in?

I post it in the game thread, it's public when I do it.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #94 on: June 10, 2015, 12:12:26 am »

Also, why have some people not posted yet?

vote: Delirious Deleuze for one.

And because I haven't played with him  (I am pretty sure I haven't at least)
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #95 on: June 10, 2015, 12:26:19 am »

ADK, did you forget about the action window, or did you decide to claim anyway?

I decided to claim anyway. I think that shooting day one is a good enough idea on its own that doing it in such a short frame is acceptable (if we can get a consensus), and there are other factors that make using it right away a good idea.

Also, 1-shot day-vig sounds townie.  I mean, do you really think scum are going to have a role where they have to publicly kill someone during the day?

Wait, do you announce it in this thread or do you have a qt that you would post in?

I post it in the game thread, it's public when I do it.

I disagree with the Day 1 shot and think that we should save it.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #96 on: June 10, 2015, 12:29:27 am »

I disagree with the Day 1 shot and think that we should save it.

Because you are scum and are worried that he'll shoot you or your partners and you'd rather nightkill him to neutralize a town PR?

Or another reason?

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #97 on: June 10, 2015, 12:47:55 am »

Hmm dayvigging could be interesting. I guess I'm ok with it as long as its not me thats shot!
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #98 on: June 10, 2015, 12:48:13 am »

but would it be stronger if we used it on a later day with more info?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D1)
« Reply #99 on: June 10, 2015, 01:01:19 am »

but would it be stronger if we used it on a later day with more info?

If you think of it as just "we get an extra lynch", it isn't any strong or weaker depending on when we use it. And right away increases the chances that we'll get to use it at all.
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