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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D4)
« Reply #2125 on: July 11, 2015, 09:23:48 am »

Hydrad was dead the longest and is therefore the least tainted.  He basically gets to sub in as an IC.  Pretty good, I say.

Also, why in the world do the claimed masons continue to live?  That's three nights with nary a death for them.

presumably because they're hoping for you to convince us into lynching one of them

I am, at this point, willing to do that.

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D4)
« Reply #2126 on: July 11, 2015, 09:26:07 am »

i'll also comment that something feels super weird about this game. If we believe most of the claims we have like 5 IC's now? That means that we can almost lynch whoever we want and still win the game. That stat just feels wrong so I'm guessing something here isn't quite what it seems
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For anyone else, such a statement would be a scum tell.  For Hydrad, it's simply a tell that you're reading something from Hydrad.

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D4)
« Reply #2127 on: July 11, 2015, 10:19:43 am »

Hydrad was dead the longest and is therefore the least tainted.  He basically gets to sub in as an IC.  Pretty good, I say.

Also, why in the world do the claimed masons continue to live?  That's three nights with nary a death for them.

presumably because they're hoping for you to convince us into lynching one of them

I am, at this point, willing to do that.

Well, with Hydrad aboard we can really afford it. Two real-IC is better than 2 pseudo-IC (before the ressurection) after all.

Really think we should lynch UoS first. I think my town- assumtions around him were wrong.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D4)
« Reply #2128 on: July 11, 2015, 10:55:31 am »

Hydrad!  Welcome back.  So Awaclus was lynchproof.  Which means he most likely is that 3rd party role he talked about.  I don't mind keeping him alive another day or two, especially since we got Hydrad back
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D4)
« Reply #2129 on: July 11, 2015, 11:10:16 am »

UoS or Dede/hockey at this point, it seems

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D4)
« Reply #2130 on: July 11, 2015, 11:13:27 am »

UoS or Dede/hockey at this point, it seems

So, where are the other masons? Or were mail-mi lying/misinformed?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D4)
« Reply #2131 on: July 11, 2015, 11:13:52 am »

Why DeDe/hockey? They have been confirmed town by mail-mi already, there's no point in lynching them.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D4)
« Reply #2132 on: July 11, 2015, 11:13:56 am »

We should still absolutely be lynching either me or Awaclus today.

If you want to lynch masons, do it once you have a flip from me or Awaclus.  If it's me, when you see my flip, Awaclus still needs to come before any other nonsense.

On Ash, because the amount of sheeping of claimed non-town is ridiculous and this needs pointing out: Why would Ash ever claim that power if he were scum?  Why wouldn't he just silently use it to bring a scumbuddy back and waste time.  Or not use it at all.  The timing of it suggests it wasn't compulsive.  It does a lot to help town by pure math, independent of reads.

I'm not saying Ash should be another IC (I think you guys are probably throwing that around too freely) but he shouldn't be someone you look at lynching until much later in the game.

@Hydrad: Welcome back!  (Although I wasn't here when you were.)  I am amazed you read all that in 2 hours.  Good job.  What do you think of Awaclus' claimed power?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D4)
« Reply #2133 on: July 11, 2015, 11:14:36 am »

UoS or Dede/hockey at this point, it seems

Why DeDe/Hockey now instead of later?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D4)
« Reply #2134 on: July 11, 2015, 11:17:22 am »

And really, scummy as DeDe's play is, his PM idenetifies another player as being of the same faction as him.  If he's scum, that requires PMs specifically written to avoid my power creating an IC out of masons (since parts are redacted, and scum could just have that part redacted if Faust doesn't want this to function as a cop.)  How likely is that?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D4)
« Reply #2135 on: July 11, 2015, 11:21:51 am »

I think my town- assumtions around him were wrong.

Care to elaborate?

There's certainly a good argument for lynching me based on information gained or believing Awaclus' claim (which is absurd, but whatever) but this sounds like you're scumreading me for my play.  If so, you should explain your thinking.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D4)
« Reply #2136 on: July 11, 2015, 11:25:07 am »

UoS or Dede/hockey at this point, it seems

Why DeDe/Hockey now instead of later?

I think it makes more sense to delay the you/Awaclus lynch then to delay the mason lynch, since Awaclus claims to have the strongest PR in the game.

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D4)
« Reply #2137 on: July 11, 2015, 12:49:31 pm »

UoS or Dede/hockey at this point, it seems

Why DeDe/Hockey now instead of later?

I think it makes more sense to delay the you/Awaclus lynch then to delay the mason lynch, since Awaclus claims to have the strongest PR in the game.

That's not a reason to delay the UoS lynch.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D4)
« Reply #2138 on: July 11, 2015, 01:09:28 pm »

vote: UoS

We went through with the Awaclus lynch yesterday.  We received back Hydrad today.  We can just do "the plan" today, right?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D4)
« Reply #2139 on: July 11, 2015, 01:34:16 pm »

I'm preliminarily a bit worried that the resurrection power could be a scum power. When resurrected the player could come back as scum (you know, kind of what vampires do.......). Ash could easily resurrect a previous town player and try to make everyone think it was a town player and that he was a town play, then slowly they push mislynches (like flying back on the mason train) and win.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D4)
« Reply #2140 on: July 11, 2015, 01:41:34 pm »

UoS: he would easily claim this as scum if the power brings a player back as scum without informing is (like vampires who get brought back and can look human). They get town cred and a new partner.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D4)
« Reply #2141 on: July 11, 2015, 01:50:24 pm »

UoS: he would easily claim this as scum if the power brings a player back as scum without informing is (like vampires who get brought back and can look human). They get town cred and a new partner.

alignment switch is bastard.  we dont have to worry about that
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D4)
« Reply #2142 on: July 11, 2015, 02:04:35 pm »

UoS: he would easily claim this as scum if the power brings a player back as scum without informing is (like vampires who get brought back and can look human). They get town cred and a new partner.

alignment switch is bastard.  we dont have to worry about that

Oh okay cool. I was getting super paranoid.

Good to have you back then!
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D4)
« Reply #2143 on: July 11, 2015, 02:04:53 pm »

UoS: he would easily claim this as scum if the power brings a player back as scum without informing is (like vampires who get brought back and can look human). They get town cred and a new partner.

alignment switch is bastard.  we dont have to worry about that

Not necessarily - ash used alignment change in Dune 1. However...

(...) no player's win condition can change over the course of the game. (...)

So yeah, Hydrad is a true IC.

Doesn't mean ash can't still be scum.

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D4)
« Reply #2144 on: July 11, 2015, 02:15:30 pm »

UoS: he would easily claim this as scum if the power brings a player back as scum without informing is (like vampires who get brought back and can look human). They get town cred and a new partner.

alignment switch is bastard.  we dont have to worry about that

Not necessarily - ash used alignment change in Dune 1. However...

(...) no player's win condition can change over the course of the game. (...)

So yeah, Hydrad is a true IC.

Doesn't mean ash can't still be scum.

Cool! Well Hydrad, what do you think of the plan? Who do you think is scummiest and should be I. The group?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D4)
« Reply #2145 on: July 11, 2015, 02:15:40 pm »

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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D4)
« Reply #2146 on: July 11, 2015, 04:44:46 pm »

I'M BACK!

So, in the interest of keeping things quick, what do I need to do?
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D4)
« Reply #2147 on: July 11, 2015, 04:53:27 pm »

I'M BACK!

So, in the interest of keeping things quick, what do I need to do?

What did you learn last night?!
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D4)
« Reply #2148 on: July 11, 2015, 04:59:42 pm »

I'M BACK!

So, in the interest of keeping things quick, what do I need to do?

You need to accept my invitation when you receive it.
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Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D4)
« Reply #2149 on: July 11, 2015, 05:05:17 pm »

I'M BACK!

So, in the interest of keeping things quick, what do I need to do?

What did you learn last night?!

Nothing. My question was not answered. I was roleblocked, I think.
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