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Preview: Messenger
« on: April 02, 2015, 09:55:15 am »
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There are three types of Dominion players. Some of us just play to unwind. Some play to compete. But then there are those of us who just want to watch the piles burn. Here's Messenger, for everyone who loves giving gifts and making merry.

Sometimes you'll get one for the Buy and coins. Sometimes it'll help you cycle your deck all the way down. But most of the time, you'll be using it to hand things out. Maybe your friend opened 5/2 and couldn't get two Ambassadors. Your Messenger purchase helps him with that. Maybe your opponent got himself a Potion and you feel like he should have another. Just be careful; you're getting one too. Maybe there's a sneaky way for you to win by making a bunch of Estates vanish at once. Messenger has you covered. Or maybe you're a jerk holding a Watchtower and you decide to hand out Curses in the most convoluted way possible. Man, what's your problem? Well, go for it, I guess.

The truth is, there are a lot of neat applications of the Messenger. I could go on and on about it, but I've had plenty of time to think about it, so I want you guys to have the fun. I'll leave you with one idea for your cousin's birthday party: try playing a 5 player game with this bad boy. (If you actually go and try that, please don't shoot the messenger)
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Re: Preview: Messenger
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2015, 09:57:42 am »
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Don't Altar him!
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Re: Preview: Messenger
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2015, 10:00:52 am »
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Gaining Sir Martin is also nice.
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Re: Preview: Messenger
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2015, 10:02:18 am »
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My favorite previewed card so far.
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Re: Preview: Messenger
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2015, 10:04:56 am »
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There's the +Buy card, for whomever was asking.  ;)
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Re: Preview: Messenger
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2015, 10:05:11 am »
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My favorite previewed card so far.

Full disclosure: this is my favorite card in Adventures.  I ruined many a game with it.
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Re: Preview: Messenger
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2015, 10:06:27 am »
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Is your avatar supposed to be the Iso version of this?

Is the union of Woodcutter and Chancellor better than either of them? I don't know. But you can really have fun with the on-buy effect. Seems nice if you're playing a non-mirror, or if you just want to accelerate towards the end of the game due to being ahead.
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Re: Preview: Messenger
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2015, 10:07:06 am »
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Don't Altar him!

You know... because there are no guns in Dominion.. so you can't actually shoot him anyway....

I'll see myself out.
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Re: Preview: Messenger
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2015, 10:07:49 am »
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Is your avatar supposed to be the Iso version of this?

Is the union of Woodcutter and Chancellor better than either of them? I don't know. But you can really have fun with the on-buy effect. Seems nice if you're playing a non-mirror, or if you just want to accelerate towards the end of the game due to being ahead.

Yes, it's the iso version.  I added the gifts he's carrying, though.
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Re: Preview: Messenger
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2015, 10:12:02 am »
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Players who like swindlers will also like messengers.
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Re: Preview: Messenger
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2015, 10:13:01 am »
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My favorite previewed card so far.

Full disclosure: this is my favorite card in Adventures.  I ruined many a game with it.

I remember one game with Messenger and Vineyard that ended after 9 turns. Messenger to give out Potions and Messenger to give out Messengers. It was crazy fast.

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Re: Preview: Messenger
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2015, 10:13:06 am »
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I assume this card has a quite interesting depth of openings, in that cards that you don't want multiples of become worse. Especially for player one.
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Re: Preview: Messenger
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2015, 10:16:31 am »
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I assume this card has a quite interesting depth of openings, in that cards that you don't want multiples of become worse. Especially for player one.

Wow, it's almost like Messenger gives the second player an advantage.

Hey guys, I found it!  Gold star for me!
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Re: Preview: Messenger
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2015, 10:18:34 am »
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So maybe this is the P2 advantage card!

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Re: Preview: Messenger
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2015, 10:19:28 am »
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There's the +Buy card, for whomever was asking.  ;)

This card is making me feel tingly and it's not the +Buy that's doing it!
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Re: Preview: Messenger
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2015, 10:19:57 am »
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I assume this card has a quite interesting depth of openings, in that cards that you don't want multiples of become worse. Especially for player one.

Wow, it's almost like Messenger gives the second player an advantage.

Hey guys, I found it!  Gold star for me!

But you already have 5 gold stars.
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Re: Preview: Messenger
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2015, 10:22:31 am »
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Players who like swindlers will also like messengers.

I love Swindler, but am not a huge fan of Messenger. Like Embargo, I find it pretty difficult to exploit the effect in a way that really helps you more than them. It's much easier to imagine yourself being clever than actually being clever.

I do like the decks getting random cards though, like Swindler, it's hilarious.

It is fun to play against jsh with Messenger, because then you get a free win.
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Re: Preview: Messenger
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2015, 10:22:55 am »
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But you already have 5 gold stars.

So do you, SCSN.

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Re: Preview: Messenger
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2015, 10:30:13 am »
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Did I get it right: the gaining effect occurs when you buy Messenger, not when you buy something with Messenger in play?

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Re: Preview: Messenger
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2015, 10:31:22 am »
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Did I get it right: the gaining effect occurs when you buy Messenger, not when you buy something with Messenger in play?

Yes. But only if you didn't buy anything else this turn.
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Re: Preview: Messenger
« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2015, 10:35:56 am »
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Did I get it right: the gaining effect occurs when you buy Messenger, not when you buy something with Messenger in play?

Yes. But only if you didn't buy anything else this turn.

Or, to clarify, only if you bought Messenger with your first buy this turn.
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Re: Preview: Messenger
« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2015, 10:37:09 am »
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But only if you didn't buy anything else this turn.

That part feels weird to me:
If you go for two or more buys you can choose whether you want to gain extra stuff or not, but if you only have one buy you have no such choice.

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Re: Preview: Messenger
« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2015, 10:42:08 am »
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True story: I was playing an IRL game with this card: 2P, no villages, Sea Hag, no trashing, and Messenger. This was an older version of Messenger but I don't think that matters. He opens Sea Hag, I decide to get Messenger on all of my $4 buys and give us both Curses. I only lost the Curse split 6/4.

I got destroyed.

I had less points than my opponent that game, but I had way more fun.  ;D
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Re: Preview: Messenger
« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2015, 10:44:27 am »
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But only if you didn't buy anything else this turn.

That part feels weird to me:
If you go for two or more buys you can choose whether you want to gain extra stuff or not, but if you only have one buy you have no such choice.

Presumably, since in the two buy case, there's another non-messenger card you want, I'd imagine your choice in the one-buy case is do you want messenger or the other card. But really, the alternative being messenger triggers every buy would lead to quickly degenerate games.
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Re: Preview: Messenger
« Reply #24 on: April 02, 2015, 10:46:22 am »
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But only if you didn't buy anything else this turn.

That part feels weird to me:
If you go for two or more buys you can choose whether you want to gain extra stuff or not, but if you only have one buy you have no such choice.

I'm guessing it's so you can't double up on Messenger's Santa Claus-ing.
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