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Previews #1 - Lost City, Magpie, Hero
« on: March 30, 2015, 10:05:19 am »
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It's a new Dominion expansion! Some of you knew it was inevitable; some of you hoped it would happen; some of you were glad it wasn't going to. It's happening though, I am so sure of it that I am previewing cards from it.

Adventures has a ton of cards, so I am previewing three a day. Each day but today the cards will fit a theme, showing off a different functional aspect of the set - Reserve, Duration, Events, tokens. That leaves today to show off some cards that don't fit those themes.



I like to lead with a simple card, to prove that the set has some. Lost City is a vanilla card on top, that makes the other players draw a card when you get one. You really don't want them to have that good turn, but then you may really want some Lost Cities.

Recent studies show that magpies do not especially collect shiny objects. These are folklore magpies though, which still do. Magpie might find you a treasure, or perhaps just reveal another Magpie. Over time a single Magpie can turn into a whole flock of them. There are just ten Magpies in the pile; they're not Rats with wings.

Finally we have Hero. This one is somewhat enigmatic. The top is straightforward, you get +$2 and gain a Treasure, any Treasure in the game. Usually Gold but you never know, could be Platinum or something more exotic. And then when you discard it from play, you can exchange it for a Champion. And wait, this isn't in the Supply. How do you get one? Well I'll tell you. You just need to discard a Warrior from play; then you can exchange the Warrior for a Hero. Warrior isn't in the Supply either though - you get one by exchanging a Treasure Hunter for it. I suppose it's obvious that you get a Treasure Hunter by exchanging a Page for it. But that's it, that's all the turtles there are; you buy a Page, and it turns into a Treasure Hunter, then a Warrior, then a Hero, then a Champion. Page costs $2, so the actual cost of Hero is, $2, plus playing those other cards once each. I somehow fit two of these cycles into Adventures - there's also a Peasant who becomes a Soldier, but then a Fugitive, but then a Disciple, and finally a Teacher. It's two little life stories, played out in cards that gradually get better for you. What exactly the other cards do will remain a mystery until the set is out; there is just too much to preview.

But wait, there's more! dominionstrategy.com [wait that's here] is also going to have a preview each day this week - single card previews, a different previewer each time. The set has 58 uh things; even at 4 a day, it will be below average for what % of it was previewed. No doubt these other previews will be crossposted here, just as these are crossposted there. I am mentioning them here anyway.
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Re: Previews #1 - Lost City, Magpie, Hero
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2015, 10:08:22 am »
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YAY. I called the name of a card, even though i got the effect totally wrong^^

These Traveller cards look really intriguing.

Looking forward to what I assume will be theory's preview later today.
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Re: Previews #1 - Lost City, Magpie, Hero
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2015, 10:13:20 am »
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Opening Lost City on 5/2 is interesting. You might give your opponents that were 4/3 a 5/2 now, and whey can give you 5/2+Lost City for example :D
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Re: Previews #1 - Lost City, Magpie, Hero
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2015, 10:13:30 am »
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Magpies look cool with Heralds!

And all that upgradable cards don't look cool with Swindler around

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Re: Previews #1 - Lost City, Magpie, Hero
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2015, 10:14:07 am »
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Wow the art is looking really good! I hope the rest of the set looks this nice.
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Re: Previews #1 - Lost City, Magpie, Hero
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2015, 10:18:30 am »
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Opening Lost City on 5/2 is interesting. You might give your opponents that were 4/3 a 5/2 now, and whey can give you 5/2+Lost City for example :D

I'll open lost city/page then - 'cause it's going to take a bit of time to upgrade those travellers... :D
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Re: Previews #1 - Lost City, Magpie, Hero
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2015, 10:18:53 am »
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Is Magpie one of the 12-card piles?
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Re: Previews #1 - Lost City, Magpie, Hero
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2015, 10:18:59 am »
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I wonder how many travellers there will be in each pile. With 30 kingdom cards, 20 events and 2 12 card-piles, there's not enough room for 10 of each.

Also I wonder how exactly "exchanging" works. Does that mean the Hero goes to the Champion pile?
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Re: Previews #1 - Lost City, Magpie, Hero
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2015, 10:19:18 am »
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Is Magpie one of the 12-card piles?

Donald said there's only 10.
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Re: Previews #1 - Lost City, Magpie, Hero
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2015, 10:19:31 am »
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Wow the art is looking really good! I hope the rest of the set looks this nice.

Agreed.  The art is amazing.
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Re: Previews #1 - Lost City, Magpie, Hero
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2015, 10:20:30 am »
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Is Magpie one of the 12-card piles?

Donald said there's only 10.

R.I.F.   ;D
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Re: Previews #1 - Lost City, Magpie, Hero
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2015, 10:20:59 am »
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Magpie looks like a sort of reverse Herald, the more you have the worse they are. Not nearly as bad as having tons of Rats, though.

The "upgrade chain" (Traveller type) cards changed a whole lot from the Chicago meetup, wow.
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Re: Previews #1 - Lost City, Magpie, Hero
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2015, 10:21:38 am »
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Lost City:  candidate for best 5-cost card or am I crazy?
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Re: Previews #1 - Lost City, Magpie, Hero
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2015, 10:23:16 am »
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Lost City:  candidate for best 5-cost card or am I crazy?

Go ahead and buy one every turn and watch what happens.
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Re: Previews #1 - Lost City, Magpie, Hero
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2015, 10:23:34 am »
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I wonder how many travellers there will be in each pile. With 30 kingdom cards, 20 events and 2 12 card-piles, there's not enough room for 10 of each.

You probably only need a few, right? They'll all be at different "levels" most of the time, so it probably wouldn't matter if there's only, say, 5 in a stack?

The "upgrade chain" (Traveller type) cards changed a whole lot from the Chicago meetup, wow.

Have they? I didn't get to play any games with them, just look over at you guys and go "whatever that is sounds cool!"  ;)
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Re: Previews #1 - Lost City, Magpie, Hero
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2015, 10:24:45 am »
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Lost City:  candidate for best 5-cost card or am I crazy?

I think you underestimate the on-gain penalty, or mountebank in general.
But in the right deck it sure is good.
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Re: Previews #1 - Lost City, Magpie, Hero
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2015, 10:25:33 am »
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Lost City:  candidate for best 5-cost card or am I crazy?

+1 card is very good, I think the penalty makes up for it. I mean it probably leads to crazy fast games sometimes.
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Re: Previews #1 - Lost City, Magpie, Hero
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2015, 10:25:59 am »
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0 Beards.

I am disappoint.   Hopefully Hero will grow a beard when he becomes a Champion.
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Re: Previews #1 - Lost City, Magpie, Hero
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2015, 10:26:21 am »
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Well, if there's less than 10 of some Traveller, you can set up a roadblock for your opponent by not exchanging them.

I'm also curious wether the basic Travellers go back to the supply.
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Re: Previews #1 - Lost City, Magpie, Hero
« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2015, 10:26:40 am »
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I wonder how many travellers there will be in each pile. With 30 kingdom cards, 20 events and 2 12 card-piles, there's not enough room for 10 of each.

You probably only need a few, right? They'll all be at different "levels" most of the time, so it probably wouldn't matter if there's only, say, 5 in a stack?

The "upgrade chain" (Traveller type) cards changed a whole lot from the Chicago meetup, wow.

Have they? I didn't get to play any games with them, just look over at you guys and go "whatever that is sounds cool!"  ;)

I mean only getting to look at the one, it seems a lot more streamlined. Also there's two now.
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Re: Previews #1 - Lost City, Magpie, Hero
« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2015, 10:27:13 am »
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0 Beards.

I am disappoint.   Hopefully Hero will grow a beard when he becomes a Champion.

And become a bearded lady?
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Re: Previews #1 - Lost City, Magpie, Hero
« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2015, 10:28:24 am »
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I love how for the Travellers (at least Hero, I'm assuming the rest) you may upgrade (promote? evolve? level-up? travel?) them. This is likely so that it doesn't matter if you forget, but hopefully there's some nice tactical options as to when the best time to do so is.

Also,  ;D
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Re: Previews #1 - Lost City, Magpie, Hero
« Reply #22 on: March 30, 2015, 10:28:33 am »
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0 Beards.

I am disappoint.   Hopefully Hero will grow a beard when he becomes a Champion.
Page/Treasure Hunter/Warrior/Hero/Champion is a woman. So...not likely.
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Re: Previews #1 - Lost City, Magpie, Hero
« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2015, 10:29:51 am »
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0 Beards.

I am disappoint.   Hopefully Hero will grow a beard when he becomes a Champion.

And become a bearded lady?

Hmm.. I guess I can see that, but I had thought it was just a fair-looking dude.  Need higher def images.
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Re: Previews #1 - Lost City, Magpie, Hero
« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2015, 10:30:15 am »
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upgrade (promote? evolve? level-up? travel?)

Exchange I guess is the official word.
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