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On the Job: f.ds edition
« on: March 11, 2015, 01:40:56 pm »
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I find myself unloading aggravating or head-shaking work moments in the random thread. I know that a lot of f.ds people work some sort of job. I was going to call this The Office: F.ds, but why not open it to all vocations? I'm sure a waiter has something he really wants to get off his chest (probably about me).

My chuckle today is brought to you by "Reply All is a horrible way to volunteer." We're doing a fundraising, and we have 35 people to pull the volunteers from. The coordinator put together a lovely sign-up sheet with shifts for when we're selling tickets or collecting money or setting up. The coordinator sent the sign-up sheet to everyone and asked us to reply all with our name on the form. Already I can see where some people got dropped because somebody else replied to an older message (which was probably the most recent at the time). I do not envy the coordinator the task of compiling all the results after hoping that it would just sort itself out.
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Re: On the Job: f.ds edition
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2015, 11:18:11 am »
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I once had to help someone with Excel and found out they didn't know Excel could automatically sort data.  They were doing it all by hand ...
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Re: On the Job: f.ds edition
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2015, 11:29:44 am »
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I once had to help someone with Excel and found out they didn't know Excel could automatically sort data.  They were doing it all by hand ...
I work with people that don't know Excel can add numbers in a cell. They add them up with a calculator first.

I'd rather not talk about what happens when they use photoshop.
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Re: On the Job: f.ds edition
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2015, 12:19:47 pm »
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I work with people who use a typewriter...and need me to fix it when it breaks...I had never seen a typewriter in person the first time I was asked to fix it...they think I'm super "tech" savvy.
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Re: On the Job: f.ds edition
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2015, 01:06:01 pm »
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I'm likely to be out of a job in 2 weeks.  :(
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Re: On the Job: f.ds edition
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2015, 02:54:48 pm »
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I'm likely to be out of a job in 2 weeks.  :(

:-\  :(
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Re: On the Job: f.ds edition
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2015, 03:15:53 pm »
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I'm likely to be out of a job in 2 weeks.  :(

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Re: On the Job: f.ds edition
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2015, 03:16:38 pm »
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I'm likely to be out of a job in 2 weeks.  :(

Remotely intelligent? Have an average enough personality to not offend people? Between the ages of 20 and 40? Apply at a bank or title insurance company.

Aaaand maybe have a job you don't like...
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Re: On the Job: f.ds edition
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2015, 03:17:30 pm »
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I'm likely to be out of a job in 2 weeks.  :(

:-\  :(

I've been out of a job for 2 months!  :D

Wait, I shouldn't be smiling...
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Re: On the Job: f.ds edition
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2015, 03:33:44 pm »
+1

I'm likely to be out of a job in 2 weeks.  :(

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Re: On the Job: f.ds edition
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2015, 03:37:32 pm »
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I'm likely to be out of a job in 2 weeks.  :(

Remotely intelligent? Have an average enough personality to not offend people? Between the ages of 20 and 40? Apply at a bank or title insurance company.

Aaaand maybe have a job you don't like...

I wouldn't say I don't like my job, there is something rewarding about being able to do 3 of your coworkers jobs better than them at the same time.

It's really just a product of the current job system. Go to college, pick a major you are interested in, get an internship through your major, get a job through your internship. You can't major in insurance/real estate. Finance and business majors usually turn into accounting or hr positions not actual finance/business industry positions.

This means the average employee age is much older and as most industries become more and more computerized young people have a huge edge in practical skills.
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Re: On the Job: f.ds edition
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2015, 04:25:51 pm »
+1

I'm likely to be out of a job in 2 weeks.  :(

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Ahh, the optimism of the young.....
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Re: On the Job: f.ds edition
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2015, 10:51:05 am »
+1

I'm likely to be out of a job in 2 weeks.  :(

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Aaaand maybe have a job you don't like...
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Re: On the Job: f.ds edition
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2015, 10:56:54 am »
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I'm likely to be out of a job in 2 weeks.  :(

My team needs people at my job :)
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Re: On the Job: f.ds edition
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2015, 11:11:51 am »
+3

I'm likely to be out of a job in 2 weeks.  :(

My team needs people at my job :)

Wow, do you suck that much at what you do?
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Re: On the Job: f.ds edition
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2015, 11:16:11 am »
+2

I'm likely to be out of a job in 2 weeks.  :(

My team needs people at my job :)

Do they need people with Physics degrees with little workplace experience?
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Re: On the Job: f.ds edition
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2015, 11:18:30 am »
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I'm likely to be out of a job in 2 weeks.  :(

My team needs people at my job :)

Wow, do you suck that much at what you do?

I meant at my company, not like specifically for my job.  Though, it would actually help to have someone that does the work I do.
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Re: On the Job: f.ds edition
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2015, 11:19:56 am »
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I'm likely to be out of a job in 2 weeks.  :(

My team needs people at my job :)

Do they need people with Physics degrees with little workplace experience?

Physics degrees are good, actually.  I work at a software company that does pricing and risk analytics (like, quantitative finance).  A lot of people here have physics backgrounds.
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Re: On the Job: f.ds edition
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2015, 11:21:30 am »
+1

...it was a joke. You were supposed to laugh, not explain it.  :(
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Re: On the Job: f.ds edition
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2015, 12:35:38 pm »
+1

I'm likely to be out of a job in 2 weeks.  :(

Remotely intelligent? Have an average enough personality to not offend people? Between the ages of 20 and 40? Apply at a bank or title insurance company.

Aaaand maybe have a job you don't like...
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Getting a job that's completely outside of your actual career field because you need to make money while looking for a job in your career field seems strange. I suppose you might be forced into it if you are really struggling to find work, but aside from being in a really bad situation, I can't imagine that someone would just think to get a job that has nothing to do with their own field just because it might be easier to find a job that way.

I mean, I'm a computer programmer. I have almost 10 years of professional expertise in that field, as well as a college degree (worthless, except that lots of companies require it). Sure I could go get a job doing something other than programming... I'd make probably half as much as I should be making, and wouldn't be increasing my level of experience or expertise in the field I'm actually in...
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« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2015, 12:37:05 pm »
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« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2015, 12:40:03 pm »
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I'm likely to be out of a job in 2 weeks.  :(

Remotely intelligent? Have an average enough personality to not offend people? Between the ages of 20 and 40? Apply at a bank or title insurance company.

Aaaand maybe have a job you don't like...
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Getting a job that's completely outside of your actual career field because you need to make money while looking for a job in your career field seems strange. I suppose you might be forced into it if you are really struggling to find work, but aside from being in a really bad situation, I can't imagine that someone would just think to get a job that has nothing to do with their own field just because it might be easier to find a job that way.

I mean, I'm a computer programmer. I have almost 10 years of professional expertise in that field, as well as a college degree (worthless, except that lots of companies require it). Sure I could go get a job doing something other than programming... I'd make probably half as much as I should be making, and wouldn't be increasing my level of experience or expertise in the field I'm actually in...
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Re: On the Job: f.ds edition
« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2015, 01:30:04 pm »
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Re: On the Job: f.ds edition
« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2015, 06:07:17 pm »
+2

I'm likely to be out of a job in 2 weeks.  :(

My team needs people at my job :)

Do they need people with Physics degrees with little workplace experience?

Physics degrees are good, actually.  I work at a software company that does pricing and risk analytics (like, quantitative finance).  A lot of people here have physics backgrounds.

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Re: On the Job: f.ds edition
« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2015, 06:20:46 pm »
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I'm likely to be out of a job in 2 weeks.  :(

My team needs people at my job :)

Do they need people with Physics degrees with little workplace experience?

Physics degrees are good, actually.  I work at a software company that does pricing and risk analytics (like, quantitative finance).  A lot of people here have physics backgrounds.

I play drums. When do I start?

I think this is funny because Feynman played drums.
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« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2015, 11:16:30 pm »
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I once had to help someone with Excel and found out they didn't know Excel could automatically sort data.  They were doing it all by hand ...

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« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2015, 09:15:40 am »
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I'm likely to be out of a job in 2 weeks.  :(

My team needs people at my job :)

Do they need people with Physics degrees with little workplace experience?

Physics degrees are good, actually.  I work at a software company that does pricing and risk analytics (like, quantitative finance).  A lot of people here have physics backgrounds.

I play drums. When do I start?
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Re: On the Job: f.ds edition
« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2015, 01:31:10 pm »
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I'm likely to be out of a job in 2 weeks.  :(

My team needs people at my job :)

Do they need people with Physics degrees with little workplace experience?

Physics degrees are good, actually.  I work at a software company that does pricing and risk analytics (like, quantitative finance).  A lot of people here have physics backgrounds.

Well, what's your company?  Where do I poke around to see if I'm what they might be looking for?
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« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2015, 02:44:56 pm »
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I'm likely to be out of a job in 2 weeks.  :(

My team needs people at my job :)

Do they need people with Physics degrees with little workplace experience?

Physics degrees are good, actually.  I work at a software company that does pricing and risk analytics (like, quantitative finance).  A lot of people here have physics backgrounds.

I play drums. When do I start?
That's the problem with drummers.  They never know when to come in.

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« Reply #29 on: March 23, 2015, 03:53:12 am »
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There are two Java developers at our office, a colleague and myself.

I use Eclipse and Maven and the other guy uses VI (not even syntax highlighting) and Ant (no Ivy). The irony is that the other guy is once hired as our main "Java expert", while I'm a generalist who happens to be a Java expert as well. I'm slowly convincing my team and superiors that using VI and Ant is not really efficient, nor is putting all of your libraries in SVN and keeping around old libraries on your classpath when you upgrade to a newer version of the same library.

Our manager recently visited an old friend who has set up a medium-sized (70 people) company with mostly (Java) developers. To his surprise, most of them used Eclipse and Maven (and lots of other useful tools)! I've often told him "well, I don't use them because I want to be different, I use them because every serious programmer is using them (or some other tools based on the same ideas)!" Of course it's hard for the non-technical guys at our office to understand what we're talking about, so I'm glad he got to see an actual serious company using those tools.
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« Reply #30 on: March 23, 2015, 11:25:48 am »
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There are two Java developers at our office, a colleague and myself.

I use Eclipse and Maven and the other guy uses VI (not even syntax highlighting) and Ant (no Ivy). The irony is that the other guy is once hired as our main "Java expert", while I'm a generalist who happens to be a Java expert as well. I'm slowly convincing my team and superiors that using VI and Ant is not really efficient, nor is putting all of your libraries in SVN and keeping around old libraries on your classpath when you upgrade to a newer version of the same library.

Our manager recently visited an old friend who has set up a medium-sized (70 people) company with mostly (Java) developers. To his surprise, most of them used Eclipse and Maven (and lots of other useful tools)! I've often told him "well, I don't use them because I want to be different, I use them because every serious programmer is using them (or some other tools based on the same ideas)!" Of course it's hard for the non-technical guys at our office to understand what we're talking about, so I'm glad he got to see an actual serious company using those tools.

Man I hate Eclipse though. Using plain old VI is crazy, but Eclipse just feels so bloated. I'm a fan of Geany.

Maybe when you're doing serious development Eclipse's tools prove more useful, but my CS department uses Eclipse on the lab computers and my professor this semester keeps on giving us instructions on how to set up a git repository, commit, etc that are over a page long every time (because they keep changing) and people still keep having strange issues. Meanwhile I'm merrily just using git through the command line on my laptop rather than pecking through all the silly menus.
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« Reply #31 on: March 23, 2015, 11:45:13 am »
+2

I think I've griped about this before, but I use a program that lists files in a typical window format that has the usual methods for sorting by file name or file size or modified date.

But when I sort by modified date, I get this result:
Apr 05 2011
Apr 23 2008
Dec 27 2006
Feb 04 2015
Feb 25 2014
Jul 12 2012
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Re: On the Job: f.ds edition
« Reply #32 on: March 23, 2015, 04:43:02 pm »
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What do you call a drummer without a girlfriend?

Homeless.
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« Reply #33 on: March 23, 2015, 06:33:44 pm »
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That really, really sucks. Do you have somewhere to stay for the time being?
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« Reply #34 on: March 23, 2015, 07:15:23 pm »
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It was just a joke but thanks for the concern!
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« Reply #35 on: March 23, 2015, 07:24:41 pm »
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It was just a joke but thanks for the concern!
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« Reply #36 on: March 23, 2015, 07:35:35 pm »
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Oh man. At first I thought it was a joke and laughed, but then I saw pacovf's comment and felt bad about it. Whoops.
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« Reply #37 on: March 23, 2015, 08:25:44 pm »
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Oh man. At first I thought it was a joke and laughed, but then I saw pacovf's comment and felt bad about it. Whoops.

The joke's on his girlfriend, because he really is a drummer!

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« Reply #38 on: March 23, 2015, 11:40:10 pm »
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What's the difference between a drummer and a pizza?

A pizza can feed a family of four.
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« Reply #39 on: March 24, 2015, 12:36:29 am »
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What's the difference between a drummer and a pizza?

A pizza can feed a family of four.

I'm sensing some self confidence issues or something? Anything you want to share?
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« Reply #40 on: March 24, 2015, 12:42:14 am »
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What's the difference between a drummer and a pizza?

A pizza can feed a family of four.

Hey, all you need to do is glue some cotton to the end of your drumsticks and say you're a timpanist.
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« Reply #41 on: March 24, 2015, 12:42:30 am »
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What's the difference between a drummer and a pizza?

A pizza can feed a family of four.
I've heard the same joke but with Art majors swapped in for drummers.

There are two Java developers at our office, a colleague and myself.

I use Eclipse and Maven and the other guy uses VI (not even syntax highlighting) and Ant (no Ivy). The irony is that the other guy is once hired as our main "Java expert", while I'm a generalist who happens to be a Java expert as well. I'm slowly convincing my team and superiors that using VI and Ant is not really efficient, nor is putting all of your libraries in SVN and keeping around old libraries on your classpath when you upgrade to a newer version of the same library.

Our manager recently visited an old friend who has set up a medium-sized (70 people) company with mostly (Java) developers. To his surprise, most of them used Eclipse and Maven (and lots of other useful tools)! I've often told him "well, I don't use them because I want to be different, I use them because every serious programmer is using them (or some other tools based on the same ideas)!" Of course it's hard for the non-technical guys at our office to understand what we're talking about, so I'm glad he got to see an actual serious company using those tools.

Man I hate Eclipse though. Using plain old VI is crazy, but Eclipse just feels so bloated. I'm a fan of Geany.

Maybe when you're doing serious development Eclipse's tools prove more useful, but my CS department uses Eclipse on the lab computers and my professor this semester keeps on giving us instructions on how to set up a git repository, commit, etc that are over a page long every time (because they keep changing) and people still keep having strange issues. Meanwhile I'm merrily just using git through the command line on my laptop rather than pecking through all the silly menus.
I can relate somewhat. I have my Git project repositories synched up to Eclipse, but run all git commands through the command line (actually Git Bash but same deal). I've used the Git/Github GUI tools for commits sometimes, but once I got used to using the command line for Git I never felt like using anything else.

I distinctly remember what made me switch over to IDEs like Eclipse from simple text editors. It was when I discovered that Eclipse can automatically generate getters, setters, and constructors (Context:Java). Nowadays I can really appreciate the refactoring tools offered by IDEs. I do feel like Eclipse starts getting strange or doesn't work like you expect it to once you dip into all the fancy plugins.
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« Reply #42 on: March 24, 2015, 07:38:02 am »
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What's the difference between a drummer and a pizza?

A pizza can feed a family of four.

That really, really sucks. How are you going to feed your kids while you find a way to become a pizza again?
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« Reply #43 on: March 24, 2015, 10:51:31 am »
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What's the difference between a drummer and a pizza?

A pizza can feed a family of four.

That really, really sucks. How are you going to feed your kids while you find a way to become a pizza again?

It's just a joke, I'm still a pizza. But thanks for your concern!
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« Reply #44 on: March 25, 2015, 02:42:38 pm »
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What's the difference between a drummer and a pizza?

A pizza can feed a family of four.
I've heard the same joke but with Art majors swapped in for drummers.

There are two Java developers at our office, a colleague and myself.

I use Eclipse and Maven and the other guy uses VI (not even syntax highlighting) and Ant (no Ivy). The irony is that the other guy is once hired as our main "Java expert", while I'm a generalist who happens to be a Java expert as well. I'm slowly convincing my team and superiors that using VI and Ant is not really efficient, nor is putting all of your libraries in SVN and keeping around old libraries on your classpath when you upgrade to a newer version of the same library.

Our manager recently visited an old friend who has set up a medium-sized (70 people) company with mostly (Java) developers. To his surprise, most of them used Eclipse and Maven (and lots of other useful tools)! I've often told him "well, I don't use them because I want to be different, I use them because every serious programmer is using them (or some other tools based on the same ideas)!" Of course it's hard for the non-technical guys at our office to understand what we're talking about, so I'm glad he got to see an actual serious company using those tools.

Man I hate Eclipse though. Using plain old VI is crazy, but Eclipse just feels so bloated. I'm a fan of Geany.

Maybe when you're doing serious development Eclipse's tools prove more useful, but my CS department uses Eclipse on the lab computers and my professor this semester keeps on giving us instructions on how to set up a git repository, commit, etc that are over a page long every time (because they keep changing) and people still keep having strange issues. Meanwhile I'm merrily just using git through the command line on my laptop rather than pecking through all the silly menus.
I can relate somewhat. I have my Git project repositories synched up to Eclipse, but run all git commands through the command line (actually Git Bash but same deal). I've used the Git/Github GUI tools for commits sometimes, but once I got used to using the command line for Git I never felt like using anything else.

I distinctly remember what made me switch over to IDEs like Eclipse from simple text editors. It was when I discovered that Eclipse can automatically generate getters, setters, and constructors (Context:Java). Nowadays I can really appreciate the refactoring tools offered by IDEs. I do feel like Eclipse starts getting strange or doesn't work like you expect it to once you dip into all the fancy plugins.
Well, it's not about Eclipse although I like it and use a lot of features of it.

It's about using any IDE which understands you're writing code instead of READMEs.
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« Reply #45 on: March 26, 2015, 09:51:28 am »
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I need some help.

I'm playing on BGA a few minutes ago using Chrome), and I look up at the upper right hand corner of my screen where the three black horizontal bars are (the Tool Menu icon?).  Those bars are always black in color, and now they are RED, not black.  I finished the game, closed the browser, re-opened the browser, and watched the black bars in the icon be refreshed (filled, if you will) in an orange color.  They are orange as I type this.

Anybody know what's going on?  Should I be worried?  I've not run any updates from Google.  My next step is to run a full scan with McAfee AV.
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« Reply #46 on: March 26, 2015, 09:54:40 am »
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I need some help.

I'm playing on BGA a few minutes ago using Chrome), and I look up at the upper right hand corner of my screen where the three black horizontal bars are (the Tool Menu icon?).  Those bars are always black in color, and now they are RED, not black.  I finished the game, closed the browser, re-opened the browser, and watched the black bars in the icon be refreshed (filled, if you will) in an orange color.  They are orange as I type this.

Anybody know what's going on?  Should I be worried?  I've not run any updates from Google.  My next step is to run a full scan with McAfee AV.

Man, that happened to me once for a while. I think it had something to do with my Chrome login, but I can't recall. You could try updating to the latest version of Chrome, log out, and then log back in. If you're not logged in then I don't know what to tell you.

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Normally updates happen in the background when you close and re-open your browser. However, if you haven't closed your browser in a while you might see the Chrome menu on the browser change colour to green, orange, or red. If you see green that means an update has been available for 2 days, orange – 4 days and red – 7 or more days. To apply and available update, just follow the steps below.

Click the Chrome menu on the browser toolbar.
Select Update Google Chrome.
In the confirmation dialogue that appears, click Restart. The browser saves your opened tabs and windows and reopens them automatically when it restarts. If you'd prefer not to restart right away, click Not now. The next time you restart your browser, the update will automatically be applied.
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« Reply #47 on: March 26, 2015, 09:55:41 am »
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I need some help.

I'm playing on BGA a few minutes ago using Chrome), and I look up at the upper right hand corner of my screen where the three black horizontal bars are (the Tool Menu icon?).  Those bars are always black in color, and now they are RED, not black.  I finished the game, closed the browser, re-opened the browser, and watched the black bars in the icon be refreshed (filled, if you will) in an orange color.  They are orange as I type this.

Anybody know what's going on?  Should I be worried?  I've not run any updates from Google.  My next step is to run a full scan with McAfee AV.

Are you sure you should be doing this while you're ... on the job?
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« Reply #48 on: March 26, 2015, 09:59:13 am »
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I'm retired, so I'm not on the job.

@ LastFootnote:  Thanks for the help, I'll run a scan, then follow those instructions.
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« Reply #49 on: March 26, 2015, 10:00:55 am »
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I'm retired, so I'm not on the job.

"Then why are you posting to this 'On the Job' thread?" is what I think Witherweaver is asking.
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« Reply #50 on: March 26, 2015, 11:53:17 am »
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I'm retired, so I'm not on the job.

"Then why are you posting to this 'On the Job' thread?" is what I think Witherweaver is asking.

His retirement income pays him to whatever he wants, so he gets paid to Goko.

Which means we can all loathe and envy him and shoot daggers out of our eyes at him.
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« Reply #51 on: March 26, 2015, 11:58:32 am »
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I'm retired, so I'm not on the job.

"Then why are you posting to this 'On the Job' thread?" is what I think Witherweaver is asking.
Ah, got it.  Allow me to clarify.  I'm mostly retired.  I have my hand in a few things, and the same sorts of issues arise for me as do anyone else on their job.  Those issues don't always involve the things that go on specifically in offices though, as I only go to an office outside my home a few times a month.

PPE: I neither receive money from, nor have ever given money to, Goko, Making Fun, Funsockets, etc.  But I am getting EXTREMELY bored with the base set.  I'd really like to lose with some new cards.  :o
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« Reply #52 on: March 26, 2015, 12:06:33 pm »
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The "Update Google" process worked.  I couldn't figure out why it hadn't been happening automatically, as I open and close my browser all the time.  Then I remembered I've had a separate (and reduced) window open for several days now, with research waiting to be reviewed.

LF, thanks for the help.  My google searches were failing because I considered that a "Tool" menu, rather than the main Chrome menu.
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« Reply #53 on: March 26, 2015, 02:19:05 pm »
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I kind of cringe when I see training offered for "advanced" Excel and "advanced" Access. I've taken advanced Access, and it has not prepared me for the cogs that make this program truly work.

I sit in on some advanced Excel courses, and I know that what's being taught would not prepare students for the formula gymnastics that are in my spreadsheets.
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« Reply #54 on: March 26, 2015, 02:55:47 pm »
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I kind of cringe when I see training offered for "advanced" Excel and "advanced" Access. I've taken advanced Access, and it has not prepared me for the cogs that make this program truly work.

I sit in on some advanced Excel courses, and I know that what's being taught would not prepare students for the formula gymnastics that are in my spreadsheets.
About two months ago I learned (and subsequently abused) INDIRECT and CONCATENATE to make creating new worksheets much easier for my Excel-illiterate coworkers. The instructions I left them were: "Copy this sheet. Change the date in this cell. Done."
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« Reply #55 on: March 26, 2015, 03:28:17 pm »
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Good timing for an excel (2003) question:

I'm preparing for a mail merge, and my source for names and address will be an excel spreadsheet.  I'm trying to use the following formula to rearrange a name in cell E2 that appears as "Doe, John" so that it appears in cell F2 as "John Doe".  So I placed this formula in F2:

=RIGHT(E2,LEN(E2)-LEN(LEFT(E2,FIND(",",E2)-1))-2&" "&LEFT(E2,FIND(" ",E2)-1))

What's being returned in E3 is the dreaded error message "#value!" so I know a value used in the formula is of the wrong data type.  The infinite wisdom contained in the help library in locked away never to be approached, and the "trace error" function doesn't appear in the dropdown under the caution icon.  Any thoughts from the experts?

I'm wondering if it is a simple syntax issue, like I need spaces around the two ampersands or something.
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« Reply #56 on: March 26, 2015, 03:43:20 pm »
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You had a parenthesis issue. Try this one:

=RIGHT(E2,LEN(E2)-LEN(LEFT(E2,FIND(",",E2)-1))-2)&" "&LEFT(E2,FIND(",",E2)-1)

I also changed the space search to a comma search. It's consistent with the left-hand of your formula, and it also accounts for names like "Huffington III, John Davis".
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« Reply #57 on: March 26, 2015, 04:07:59 pm »
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Thanks.  I printed it out and verify all the parenthesis were properly paired, but didn't check for placement, and obviously missed something.

In the meantime, I successfully wrote three formulae to break the full name into first, middle, and last (with suffix).  I may not need all that depending on what I choose as a salutation, but it gives me any permutation I need using the appropriate concatenation.

Your correction worked perfectly.  Thanks for the help.
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« Reply #58 on: March 27, 2015, 02:33:14 am »
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« Reply #59 on: March 27, 2015, 08:21:02 am »
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F.DS... your online resource for Excel strategy.
Do you still get errors when using a different language because all keywords are also translated?

If you had a Dutch version, you couldn't use formulas with "AND" in them, they had to be translated to "EN".
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« Reply #60 on: March 28, 2015, 01:48:59 pm »
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F.DS... your online resource for Excel strategy.
Do you still get errors when using a different language because all keywords are also translated?

If you had a Dutch version, you couldn't use formulas with "AND" in them, they had to be translated to "EN".

EN-GB or EN-US?
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« Reply #61 on: March 30, 2015, 10:20:56 am »
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I'm a switchboard/phone operator at a hospital in Sweden. We have a set-up with a computer hooked up to the Interwebz with an application that communicates both with a database of names and phone numbers, and a switchboard apparatus, so that we can actually handle calls. This apparatus is pretty much an advanced phone and is in turn connected to the actual headsets we use. Currently we're in the process of getting new computers. One co-worker of mine asked me if the new computers' volume would be better. I was confused as we don't really use speakers, since it would be VERY distracting. We have a pair of speakers for the computer that's in use during the night shifts, because there are very few calls and the employees are better off watching something than falling asleep doing nothing. I asked my co-worker if she meant those, because there will most likely be very little difference in volume after the change if that was the case. Turns out she meant the switchboard apparatus that emitts a sound whenever there's an incoming call. It literally took me 20 minutes to explain to her that it's not a part of the computer. And we've talked a lot about how we would keep the apparatuses when we get new computers.

We have newer hardware but this is basically the set up we have.



I guess I'm just baffled at how people who work with these tools don't know what they are and how they work.
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« Reply #62 on: March 30, 2015, 10:23:22 am »
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So you have the internet on that thing?
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« Reply #63 on: March 30, 2015, 10:29:26 am »
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« Reply #64 on: April 02, 2015, 03:32:41 pm »
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I'm torn between being efficient and being passive-aggressive. Someone sends me a document with changes to be made. She marked some changes, but she used red font, which is unfortunate because the document consists of black and red font. Furthermore, not all changes are marked. I can compare it to what's in the system and see the change.

So I want to teach her a lesson and make only the changes she marked with the hope that the missing info gets caught on follow-up. But I believe in doing a thorough job, and it would just be easier to make the changes as I find them. But I really want to teach her a lesson. I made the changes I caught, but maybe there's something I didn't catch. I kind of hope so.
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« Reply #65 on: April 02, 2015, 04:08:50 pm »
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I'm torn between being efficient and being passive-aggressive. Someone sends me a document with changes to be made. She marked some changes, but she used red font, which is unfortunate because the document consists of black and red font. Furthermore, not all changes are marked. I can compare it to what's in the system and see the change.

So I want to teach her a lesson and make only the changes she marked with the hope that the missing info gets caught on follow-up. But I believe in doing a thorough job, and it would just be easier to make the changes as I find them. But I really want to teach her a lesson. I made the changes I caught, but maybe there's something I didn't catch. I kind of hope so.

You could just be assertive and inform her she made a mistake, return it to her, and ask she do it right so you can do your job.
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« Reply #66 on: April 02, 2015, 04:10:47 pm »
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« Reply #67 on: April 03, 2015, 01:23:27 pm »
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I actually cringe when I watch a co-worker navigate inefficiently on a computer. I watched someone click on the task bar to get back to the window he was at before rather than just press Alt+Tab. I had to refrain from pointing out the more efficient manner, because I don't want to end up being that guy. I could so easily do it too, so I try to check myself.
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« Reply #68 on: April 03, 2015, 01:36:47 pm »
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« Reply #69 on: April 03, 2015, 01:45:38 pm »
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My boss is not particularly computer savvy.  This resonates so much.  Also, he touches monitor screens :(  His is full of smudges and fingerprints, it drives me crazy.  When he points out something on my screen and touches my screen, I'm internally raging.
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« Reply #70 on: April 03, 2015, 03:55:12 pm »
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Scroll wheel? I'm a PgUp/PgDn kind of guy. But that's because I more easily lose my place with a scroll wheel. I pretty much know where the bottom of the page ends up when I press PgDn.
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« Reply #72 on: April 03, 2015, 06:36:23 pm »
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Yeah, I thought I was the only one who didn't know how to use the scroll wheel.
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« Reply #74 on: April 06, 2015, 01:35:48 pm »
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« Reply #75 on: April 06, 2015, 01:36:53 pm »
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That is the fastest that my Excel sheet has refreshed all its formulas. I am suddenly suspicious.

Over the weekend an intern hardcoded all the cells to the numerical value they were last displaying.  Runs instantly!
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« Reply #76 on: April 06, 2015, 01:50:33 pm »
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That is the fastest that my Excel sheet has refreshed all its formulas. I am suddenly suspicious.

Over the weekend an intern hardcoded all the cells to the numerical value they were last displaying.  Runs instantly!

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« Reply #77 on: April 06, 2015, 04:51:01 pm »
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That is the fastest that my Excel sheet has refreshed all its formulas. I am suddenly suspicious.

Over the weekend an intern hardcoded all the cells to the numerical value they were last displaying.  Runs instantly!

There are incompatibilities between (some versions of) Excel and Open Office that cause this problem. Probably the reason this happened?
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« Reply #78 on: April 06, 2015, 11:03:59 pm »
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That is the fastest that my Excel sheet has refreshed all its formulas. I am suddenly suspicious.

Over the weekend an intern hardcoded all the cells to the numerical value they were last displaying.  Runs instantly!

There are incompatibilities between (some versions of) Excel and Open Office that cause this problem. Probably the reason this happened?

Nope, it's my own personal Excel sheet that no one else touches. And I verified that the results are correct. What used to take about 10-15 minutes to refresh only took less than a minute. Maybe there's been a performance update on the servers.

I love how in the '80s it was all mainframes. Then we got personal computers. Now we're using VDI, so it's back to the '80s we go.
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« Reply #79 on: April 07, 2015, 01:58:58 am »
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« Reply #80 on: April 07, 2015, 08:40:15 am »
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That is the fastest that my Excel sheet has refreshed all its formulas. I am suddenly suspicious.

Over the weekend an intern hardcoded all the cells to the numerical value they were last displaying.  Runs instantly!

There are incompatibilities between (some versions of) Excel and Open Office that cause this problem. Probably the reason this happened?

Nope, it's my own personal Excel sheet that no one else touches. And I verified that the results are correct. What used to take about 10-15 minutes to refresh only took less than a minute. Maybe there's been a performance update on the servers.

I love how in the '80s it was all mainframes. Then we got personal computers. Now we're using VDI, so it's back to the '80s we go.

Yeah, I mean, what are you going to do now instead of taking the built in 9-11 minute break?  More work?  Say it isn't so.
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« Reply #81 on: April 07, 2015, 10:42:29 am »
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Yeah, I mean, what are you going to do now instead of taking the built in 9-11 minute break?  More work?  Say it isn't so.

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« Reply #82 on: April 15, 2015, 10:01:56 pm »
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Speaking of excel help.  Any way to do logic formulas using fill color?  I looked online (not very long and not very hard...mostly because I knew I could ask here) and couldn't find anything that would work except a manual trick to create a new column and enter text into it for all of the cells that have a certain fill then use the logic formula with that data.

I mean, it works that way for me, but it just means I have to do one extra step of filtering by fill then inserting the text into the new column.
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« Reply #83 on: April 15, 2015, 11:10:05 pm »
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Actually, I have an excel question, too.

Every week, I get a spreadsheet with a certain set of data (like, 100 rows or so).  They have multiple columns, and the first one has names in it.  I receive the spreadsheet in the order each line item was entered, which is chronological.

I have to provide the data elsewhere, but listed in alphabetical order by name instead.  For now, I print it out and just re-type it into a new sheet, going down the list of 100 to make sure I get all the "A" names, then all the "B" names, etc.  It's a bit time-consuming though.

Is there a way I could rearrange it all somehow without having to re-type it?
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« Reply #84 on: April 15, 2015, 11:26:47 pm »
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Actually, I have an excel question, too.

Every week, I get a spreadsheet with a certain set of data (like, 100 rows or so).  They have multiple columns, and the first one has names in it.  I receive the spreadsheet in the order each line item was entered, which is chronological.

I have to provide the data elsewhere, but listed in alphabetical order by name instead.  For now, I print it out and just re-type it into a new sheet, going down the list of 100 to make sure I get all the "A" names, then all the "B" names, etc.  It's a bit time-consuming though.

Is there a way I could rearrange it all somehow without having to re-type it?

Does the spreadsheet have a title row?  Like "Name" "phone number" "birthday" or whatever?  If not, I recommend creating one.  From there, highlight all the titles and apply a filter and then you can sort by whatever column you want.  In this case by name.
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« Reply #85 on: April 16, 2015, 08:38:05 am »
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I'm not immediately familiar with formulas based on cell color. I admit that I don't do that much with color except for prettifying it at the end or using conditional formatting to help me identify problem children.

As for arranging the data in alphabetical order, e is correct. You don't need to retype the data in alphabetical order. In fact, if the information is in Excel, there is a really good chance that you won't need to retype it for any of your needs; you just need to find the right formula/method to arrange it the way you want.
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« Reply #86 on: April 16, 2015, 10:00:06 am »
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Actually, I have an excel question, too.

Every week, I get a spreadsheet with a certain set of data (like, 100 rows or so).  They have multiple columns, and the first one has names in it.  I receive the spreadsheet in the order each line item was entered, which is chronological.

I have to provide the data elsewhere, but listed in alphabetical order by name instead.  For now, I print it out and just re-type it into a new sheet, going down the list of 100 to make sure I get all the "A" names, then all the "B" names, etc.  It's a bit time-consuming though.

Is there a way I could rearrange it all somehow without having to re-type it?

Sort the spreadsheet. (Data-> Sort). Highlight the data (rows) you want sorted (can have a title row or not), select the column by which you want to sort the rows (e.g. last name). Make sure all the data is highlighted; Excel will only sort the highlighted data!

If you have something like "FirstName LastName" in one cell and want to sort by last name, first you have to split the column. Data->Text to Columns. Delimiter is space. (Make sure you insert empty columns for the data to go into first.) Then sort by your new last name column.

Filter lets you see a subset of the data, but does not rearrange it.
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« Reply #87 on: April 16, 2015, 10:16:27 am »
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« Reply #88 on: April 16, 2015, 10:19:56 am »
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Better give basic advice to someone that jokingly feigns ignorance than to laugh at a beginner's serious question!

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« Reply #89 on: April 16, 2015, 10:21:10 am »
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Actually, I have an excel question, too.

Every week, I get a spreadsheet with a certain set of data (like, 100 rows or so).  They have multiple columns, and the first one has names in it.  I receive the spreadsheet in the order each line item was entered, which is chronological.

I have to provide the data elsewhere, but listed in alphabetical order by name instead.  For now, I print it out and just re-type it into a new sheet, going down the list of 100 to make sure I get all the "A" names, then all the "B" names, etc.  It's a bit time-consuming though.

Is there a way I could rearrange it all somehow without having to re-type it?

What you should do is write each one on separate a piece of paper.  Then you can physically move the pieces of paper around to sort them.  You can even do some fancy sorting algorithms (bubble sort, merge sort) to make the approach efficient.  Then, once they're sorted, simply type into Excel in the resulting order!
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« Reply #90 on: April 16, 2015, 10:21:52 am »
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Better give basic advice to someone that jokingly feigns ignorance than to laugh at a beginner's serious question!

I call it "the homeless drummer rule".

That's fair.  Although, if it had been a Dominion (or comma) question, there would have been no shortage of snark or derision.
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« Reply #91 on: April 16, 2015, 10:42:57 am »
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Better give basic advice to someone that jokingly feigns ignorance than to laugh at a beginner's serious question!

I call it "the homeless drummer rule".

I had my suspicion about the seriousness of the question, especially since I remember someone (Theory?) posting about a colleague who arranges data in such a fashion.

But yeah, I didn't want to discourage someone with a, "You're joking, right?" Because what if that person isn't?

I did work with a doctor who struggled with copy and paste. He needed me to walk him through it. Granted, this was in the late '90s, and he was an older gentleman, so knowledge of copy and paste was not so ubiquitous. Still, guy was smart enough to get through medical school at some point, and he kept forgetting how to copy and paste.
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« Reply #92 on: April 16, 2015, 01:52:01 pm »
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« Reply #93 on: April 16, 2015, 03:01:37 pm »
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Better give basic advice to someone that jokingly feigns ignorance than to laugh at a beginner's serious question!

I call it "the homeless drummer rule".

I had my suspicion about the seriousness of the question, especially since I remember someone (Theory?) posting about a colleague who arranges data in such a fashion.

But yeah, I didn't want to discourage someone with a, "You're joking, right?" Because what if that person isn't?

I did work with a doctor who struggled with copy and paste. He needed me to walk him through it. Granted, this was in the late '90s, and he was an older gentleman, so knowledge of copy and paste was not so ubiquitous. Still, guy was smart enough to get through medical school at some point, and he kept forgetting how to copy and paste.
My wife gives me a hard time about how I cut and paste.  I never learned the Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V (or whatever it is).  I highlight text, and hit Ctrl+Insert to copy.  To paste, it's Shift+Insert.  To cut then paste, it's Ctrl+Delete, then Shift+Insert.  It's just what I picked up in early versions of Word, and I've not had the need to change.  And I wonder if I'm smart enough to change if I needed to.
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Small joys: Abandoning my awesome parking spot to go out for lunch only to find the spot still open upon my return.

Good thing too, because I decided against bringing a jacket to lunch, and it was not as warm as I thought.

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Small joys: Abandoning my awesome parking spot to go out for lunch only to find the spot still open upon my return.

Good thing too, because I decided against bringing a jacket to lunch, and it was not as warm as I thought.

Go home for the day.  Quit while you're ahead.

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« Reply #97 on: April 20, 2015, 05:23:24 pm »
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We needed to fill out some paperwork for our client today.  We planned to do it as a group.  So I sent a coordinating email that ended with:

"Should we get a room or just do it in your office?"

During spellcheck I was like ... wait ... I should rephrase that

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We needed to fill out some paperwork for our client today.  We planned to do it as a group.  So I sent a coordinating email that ended with:

"Should we get a room or just do it in your office?"

During spellcheck I was like ... wait ... I should rephrase that

"Also, should we get a room or just fill out the forms in your office?"

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We needed to fill out some paperwork for our client today.  We planned to do it as a group.  So I sent a coordinating email that ended with:

"Should we get a room or just do it in your office?"

During spellcheck I was like ... wait ... I should rephrase that

"Also, should we get a room or just fill out the forms in your office?"

Something, something, debrief, something, something.
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« Reply #100 on: April 20, 2015, 07:13:34 pm »
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Although, I'm enough of a pervert that I would chuckle at "get a room."
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« Reply #101 on: April 20, 2015, 07:29:44 pm »
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Although, I'm enough of a pervert that I would chuckle at "get a room."

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« Reply #102 on: April 21, 2015, 09:49:32 am »
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Although, I'm enough of a pervert that I would chuckle at "get a room."

After six hours of continually editing and reediting his simple email to be free from all innuendo, Theory finally cracks and sends, "HEY EVERYBODY LET'S GO SEX" to all employees.

Your typical "farewell email" is so boring!  I like this approach better.
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« Reply #103 on: May 06, 2015, 01:45:13 pm »
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I have someone with random apostrophes. She uses them for plurals, and I swear I might be remembering her just inserting them in other places too.

But random commas really bug me, because they change how I read the statement. I tend to ignore errant apostrophes; my brain glosses over them. But I do pause when reading a comma, and I have to start over.

Things like, "I would recommend, Bob." Since my name isn't Bob, I know she's not addressing me by name. She's recommending Bob, but I stop reading as soon as my brain picks up on the problem.

Of course, now I opened myself up to several messages with punctuation misuses, but that will not deter my rant.
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« Reply #104 on: May 06, 2015, 10:53:40 pm »
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« Reply #105 on: May 13, 2015, 02:20:55 pm »
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Heh, I found a message I wrote defending our department's use of SnagIt. The IT department wanted to remove it, reasoning that Windows already has a screen-capture tool. It was my job to outline how we use SnagIt and how the Windows Snipping Tool does not meet our needs.

We won, and new licenses were purchased for SnagIt. I feel like that would have been cheaper to do in the first place than to have to spend all those hours researching Windows Snipping Tool and writing up a comparison.
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« Reply #106 on: May 13, 2015, 11:42:10 pm »
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Need help!

I am starting to get my hands dirty with C. I had only really used Python before. Python has this cool thing where when you run a buggy script and it crashes, it will helpfully indicate where exactly it crashed and why, what was calling which function, etc. Now, with C, the compiler (gcc) is nice enough to tell you this sort of thing, but obviously it can't find everything that would result in runtime errors, and now I've got a script that compiles "nicely" but only outputs "segmentation fault: 11" when I try to run it, which is the opposite of useful to find the origin of the problem in the dozen or so source files I have. I've tried some old school print debugging in the main script, but it crashes before it even reaches the first printf, so I don't have any idea of how to debug this.

Does the council of sages have any recommendations?
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« Reply #107 on: May 14, 2015, 01:22:00 am »
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Are you compiling with the -Wall flag?

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« Reply #108 on: May 14, 2015, 02:34:01 am »
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Learn how to use gdb, the C debugger. It will be painful to start with but it will basically save your life, because it's one of the few ways to get a stack trace in C. (where stack trace == the list of function calls Python gives you for free.)

I don't do much C, but I believe the following should work.

- Compile your program with the -g flag (this adds debugging hooks to your program...or something along those lines. It lets you use gdb on your executable. I'm not sure how it actually works.)
- Run "gdb <executable name>"
- This should put you into an interpreter prompt on the command line. From here, you'll have to look up the gdb commands, because I don't remember them off the top of my head. I believe "break <line num>" or "break <function name>" puts a breakpoint at that point in the code. It might be <filename>:<linenum/function> to specify a certain file but you should look that up. "r" or "run" starts running your program, and pauses it at the first breakpoint it hits.
- Once at a breakpoint, "bt" or something similar gives you a backtrace. There's some command for listing current variable contents, another for printing things. To start running from a breakpoint, you can either do "step"/"s", "next"/"n", "continue"/"c".

Step = execute the next line, then pause. If the next line is a function call, step into that function call. (stops at the first line of that function's code)
Next = execute the next line, then pause. If the next line is a function call, run that function call in full before stopping.
Continue = execute until the next breakpoint.

One of my courses gave a virtual machine with cgdb installed, which is gdb except it automatically displays the code in the terminal instead of just the line number. If you're on a Linux system you can probably install it pretty easily, and it may be more helpful than plain gdb.

Edit: You can also try the binary search trick if your code is structured nicely enough. Put printf at the very start (as in, literally first line) to make sure you can actually run prints. Then place printf in the middle. If fail, move printf to ~1/4 of the way in. If success, move to ~3/4 of the way in. Do binary search on your printf location until you figure out the rough area where it crashes, repeat for other functions.
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« Reply #109 on: May 14, 2015, 06:48:58 am »
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Check out the valgrind tool. It will likely give you more information than gdb for errors such as yours.
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« Reply #110 on: May 14, 2015, 10:59:18 am »
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Thanks guys. I had already installed gdb and valgrind. I am still not too sure how to use them yet, but I did manage to find out the line where it crashed with gdb, and I fixed the problem in minutes (there was a missing header)*.

Success!


*The compiler actually warned me about it (implicit function declaration), but it was lost in a sea of identical warnings, I guess because the original author of the code had a different compiler or setup that took care of them.
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« Reply #111 on: May 14, 2015, 03:04:49 pm »
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Continue to use Python, instead.
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« Reply #112 on: May 14, 2015, 03:44:10 pm »
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Believe me, I wish it was up to me.
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« Reply #113 on: May 20, 2015, 12:33:33 am »
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Continuing with my forays into C and C++... The more I learn about strings and how they are handled, the less probable it seems that I will be able to see beauty in the World ever again.
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« Reply #114 on: May 20, 2015, 04:28:24 am »
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Continuing with my forays into C and C++... The more I learn about strings and how they are handled, the less probable it seems that I will be able to see beauty in the World ever again.

Using raw pointers (char *) for string manipulation leads to madness. Are you using std::string?
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« Reply #115 on: May 20, 2015, 04:36:34 am »
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Continuing with my forays into C and C++... The more I learn about strings and how they are handled, the less probable it seems that I will be able to see beauty in the World ever again.

Using raw pointers (char *) for string manipulation leads to manliness.

Fixed that for you.
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« Reply #116 on: May 20, 2015, 08:05:01 am »
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They announced the resignation of one of the supervisors, and I just don't feel a loss. I feel kind of conflicted at that, because it's not like she and I have butted heads or anything. In fact, she's been polite to me, but I know that she's one of those ladder-climbers who cares only for herself, so even I take her politeness with a grain of salt. It helps that I know some of the people who've been under her, and I know they won't miss her. She would send out start-up notes with a question at the end that required a mandatory response so she knows her employees read the notes. The questions were dumb like, "Tell me where you want to vacation," or, "What fruit would you be?"

Maybe she bugs me because she acts like the stereotypical manager, even though not all managers are that way.
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« Reply #117 on: May 20, 2015, 08:29:17 am »
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The question at the end of the memo is an interesting strategy.  It could be considered good management, but it could just be an obsession with control.

It is a valuable tool on applications though, as it will help you screen candidates quickly and effectively.  My applications always had a final sentence at the bottom of the page, that read "on the back of this page, write a one-paragraph explanation of why you are the best candidate for the position".  There were always about half that didn't have anything on the back, so those went in the trash.  I don't hire folks that either can't read or can't follow directions.

Does she set her meetings at times other than the hour, half hour, or quarter hour?  Several high level managers I have known use odd times like 8 minutes or 12 minutes after the hour.  They said it makes the time stand out in everyone's mind, and that focus reinforces punctuality.  I always thought it was the equivalent of a dog marking its territory.
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« Reply #118 on: May 20, 2015, 09:04:11 am »
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The question at the end of the memo is an interesting strategy.  It could be considered good management, but it could just be an obsession with control.

I could see that tactic being put to good use, but this one is a control freak. Even though I didn’t interact with her much, I could see that. The grumblings I've heard from others indicate that she makes micromanagement an art form.

It doesn't help that it was such a blatant ploy. At least your application example has a practical façade. Someone reading it would assume that they ran out of room on the front, so they asked you to continue to the back. That's actually pretty clever.
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« Reply #119 on: May 20, 2015, 05:52:22 pm »
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Continuing with my forays into C and C++... The more I learn about strings and how they are handled, the less probable it seems that I will be able to see beauty in the World ever again.

Using raw pointers (char *) for string manipulation leads to madness. Are you using std::string?

std::strings are more reasonable than c-strings. I just wish it was made the default string of C++, so that I don't have to constantly juggle between the two to get things to work.

I also have to use a compiler (actually an interpreter, but nevermind) that doesn't accept C++11, so no stoi() and the like for me.
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« Reply #120 on: May 21, 2015, 05:31:48 am »
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std::strings are more reasonable than c-strings. I just wish it was made the default string of C++, so that I don't have to constantly juggle between the two to get things to work.

There's a lot of dynamic memory allocation happening behind the scenes when you use std::string. C++ is designed for low-level, high-performance, limited-resources environments, where that kind of cost is unacceptable.

I totally understand your frustration, though. The learning curve is steep.
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« Reply #121 on: May 21, 2015, 07:46:49 pm »
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It's more like:

-Man, C-strings sure are awkward to use.
-Use std::strings instead! They are much more convenient.
-... Now my code doesn't compile.
-Yes, you have to use C-strings anyway.
-???

What bothers me about this is that, unlike other C/C++ features, the amount of extra complexity doesn't correspond to extra functionality. I'm guessing it's a limitation of the strongly typed nature of the language, and I am not yet used to this kind of thing.
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« Reply #122 on: May 22, 2015, 04:39:06 am »
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If you're dealing with an API that only accepts C-strings, you can do all your manipulation using std::string and at the last moment you call c_str() to get a char*. Something like this:

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std::string bar = "cheezburger";
std::string foobar = foo + bar;
silly_api_that_takes_char_ptr(foobar.c_str());

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« Reply #123 on: May 22, 2015, 10:09:43 am »
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The more managers that get added to this project, the longer it's going to take.
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« Reply #124 on: May 22, 2015, 10:29:53 am »
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The more managers that get added to this project, the longer it's going to take.

Need to get a manager to manage the addition of managers to the project, obviously. 
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« Reply #125 on: May 22, 2015, 10:57:15 am »
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If you're dealing with an API that only accepts C-strings, you can do all your manipulation using std::string and at the last moment you call c_str() to get a char*. Something like this:

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...and you can shorten the last two lines to:

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silly_api_that_takes_char_ptr((foo + bar).c_str());

Yeah, I ended up using this solution. It took a lot of reading before getting there though.

But as you imply in your answer, the problem might be ROOT, rather than C++, in which case I guess I owe an apology to Mr Stroustrup.
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« Reply #126 on: May 28, 2015, 08:03:59 am »
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« Reply #127 on: May 28, 2015, 08:28:38 am »
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« Reply #128 on: May 29, 2015, 10:03:08 am »
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Ugh. So one of my co-workers is out of the office, and I've been tasked to update one of his projects. I go into it and am flummoxed by just how inefficient everything is. He insists on making things more difficult for himself, even though I proposed some time-saving measures years ago.

As a generic example, there is a table outlining important information. Some of that information is to be published for the company to view while the other information is for our use only. I suggested a conditional tag on the rows containing information that do not display when we publish. So how would you do that?

His solution was to have Row 1 be visible, Row 2 be invisible, Row 3 be visible, Rows 4 and 5 be invisible, and so on. And he has to apply that each and every time a new process is started. He hasn't even applied the conditional tag on the template used to create new processes. At the very least, arrange the table so that all nonpublished information is together so you just apply the tag once. I mean, this is the pinnacle of ensuring job security.

I'm tempted to go in there and change things up while he's gone, but he gets pissy when anything changes, even if it's for the better. I'll just wait until he retires in 6 months. I'll inherit his crap anyway. I'm not looking forward to that, but I will be so happy when I'm done cleaning it up.
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« Reply #129 on: July 01, 2015, 03:33:00 pm »
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I feel bad for people who don't handle shortcut keys very well. I guess they can still do their work, but I have someone who just does not deal well with shortcut keys. She has to repeat the same thing several times, and I told her that rather than clicking and right-clicking all over the place, she could just press Ctrl+PgDown to cycle to the next object and then press Shift+Ctrl+N to fix it. It is exactly what I would do to speed through the file putting everything right. I'm sure I could have finished that within 2 minutes.

But man, I told her how to use those two commands in rapid-fire succession, and she freaked out and shut down. She is much more comfortable with doing everything the long way. Well, it's not worth speeding things up if she's afraid she'll mess it up, so I left her to her own devices.

I just don't know how people can be so averse to shortcut keys. But then, I've been using computers for nearly 30 years. Back in my day, everything had to be keyed. A mouse was what you didn't want chewing on your plugs. She obviously did not. What's sad is that I think she's only slightly older than me, but I clearly got a head-start on her when it comes to computers.
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« Reply #130 on: July 01, 2015, 04:05:50 pm »
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I think the key (no pun intended) in your observation is that she shut down. Maybe out of overwhelm, but maybe out of closed-mindedness, which might mean you had no chance of reaching her to begin with.  You can lead a horse to water....
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« Reply #131 on: July 02, 2015, 10:01:12 am »
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My wife applied to become a tech within her unit. Basically, she applied to become the expert that can answer questions from everyone else. She had one competitor from the same unit.

So the competitor won. Bummer for my wife, but it was already known the boss wanted the competitor to become the tech anyway. My wife only applied because the other woman didn't want it at first but then changed her mind.

After the promotion went to someone else, my wife's boss approached her with some questions.  Nuh-uh, lady. You don't get to promote someone else and pay her more money and then ask my wife questions. That's why you promoted her instead of my wife. And when your response is that you don't want to overwhelm her, then perhaps you should reconsider why you chose to promote her if she's not capable.
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« Reply #132 on: July 02, 2015, 12:44:43 pm »
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After the promotion went to someone else, my wife's boss approached her with some questions.  Nuh-uh, lady. You don't get to promote someone else and pay her more money and then ask my wife questions. That's why you promoted her instead of my wife. And when your response is that you don't want to overwhelm her, then perhaps you should reconsider why you chose to promote her if she's not capable.

I like your wife.
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After the promotion went to someone else, my wife's boss approached her with some questions.  Nuh-uh, lady. You don't get to promote someone else and pay her more money and then ask my wife questions. That's why you promoted her instead of my wife. And when your response is that you don't want to overwhelm her, then perhaps you should reconsider why you chose to promote her if she's not capable.
GOOD for your wife.  That kind of behavior irks the shit out of me.
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« Reply #134 on: July 02, 2015, 03:10:48 pm »
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After the promotion went to someone else, my wife's boss approached her with some questions.  Nuh-uh, lady. You don't get to promote someone else and pay her more money and then ask my wife questions. That's why you promoted her instead of my wife. And when your response is that you don't want to overwhelm her, then perhaps you should reconsider why you chose to promote her if she's not capable.
GOOD for your wife.  That kind of behavior irks the shit out of me.

And that's why she accepted an offer elsewhere.

It's too bad, because her boss's boss really wants to her stay with the company, and she's willing to cash in some favors to get her repositioned somewhere else. The problem is that that process moves slowly. My wife has lost all respect for her boss, which wasn't that high to begin with thanks to other issues, but the recent tech issues have really cinched the deal. She can't imagine working for her for another 3-9 months, or however long that'll take.

Still, she could return to the company when she has more experience under her belt. Even though the new job will disadvantage us financially, she'll be happier, and she'll have a lot more room for advancement. It's worth the paycheck hit.
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« Reply #135 on: July 02, 2015, 03:44:54 pm »
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And the timing, if this promotion of the other woman just happened, is kind of a "smell me" message too, which is poetic.
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« Reply #136 on: July 02, 2015, 03:54:57 pm »
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And the timing, if this promotion of the other woman just happened, is kind of a "smell me" message too, which is poetic.

It really is. She'd been looking off and on at other places, but she really likes this company. It has a new CEO who is way more transparent than the previous CEO and makes the employees feel hopeful about the future of the company.

And when my wife got this job a year and a half ago, it was already at a hit of over $10k/year. The benefits were better but not 10 grand better. So we already made a sacrifice for her to get this job. Unfortunately it is in the redheaded stepchild section of the company, and there's no advancement. She can't even really apply outside of the area because she doesn't have experience with the in-house system, which is used everywhere except for her insulated corner. The more I think about it, the more I view her department as the basement where Milton ends up in Office Space. It's just out of touch with the rest of the company because it's actually tied to another franchise (long story).

My wife says she wished she would have talked with her boss's boss a year ago. That could have made the difference. She had a distrust of upper management from her previous jobs (and, well, that distrust can often be justified), so they talked too late. My wife's been tolerating her boss for a while, but the promotion just took all that away. On top of that, her boss told her that the job would strictly be 8:00 to 4:30 with no exception. But when her coworker got the promotion, she gets to keep her 7:30 to 4:00 schedule. Now it sounds like her boss was trying to dissuade her from continuing with the application, which may be true since she always wanted this other woman in that position.

So a bit of straw that broke the camel's back. I'm not looking forward to cutting back on expenses, but I am looking forward to her advancement possibilities, especially since HR accidentally redialed her to offer a job to someone in a higher position at nearly $20k higher. So she has that to look forward to too.
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« Reply #137 on: July 02, 2015, 05:03:46 pm »
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I hope she gave minimum notice of her leaving.
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« Reply #138 on: July 03, 2015, 03:47:28 pm »
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I hope she gave minimum notice of her leaving.

Not the minimum. She still respects her boss's boss. But clearly her departure lets her know the problems with that unit.

Also, we're timing it so that she starts her new job when we get back from Gen Con. So she's putting in her notice on the 14th so she can work up until Gen Con. She still has nearly 4 days of vacation, so that means Gen Con days are still being paid for.
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« Reply #139 on: July 10, 2015, 09:48:04 am »
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Ha! Rules lawyered!

We have a semi-weekly department meeting, but my little subgroup is optional at these meetings since they tend to cover topics that are of no relevance to us, so why waste our time?

The meeting organizer changed the meeting location and added a line that attendance is expected. My coworker thought this meant our attendance was required, but I looked on the meeting request and saw we were still optional. He checked with the manager, and she confirmed that we're still optional, so I read the meeting request correctly. Only those listed as required were expected to be there. This actually makes the missive that attendance is expected a bit redundant, but welcome to office life.

But I can see where the confusion came from, and it's actually quite possible she says that it's no longer optional while forgetting to change it on the meeting request, but I take these things at face value dammit.
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« Reply #140 on: July 13, 2015, 12:13:36 pm »
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I like setting things up to be easily modified later. I was given a dozen changes to make, and I finished them, thinking, "That didn't take as long as I expected." But that's exactly why I set everything up the way I did. I read an article about how lazy people should be hired because they'll find the way to do the work with the least effort.

But then I look at my task of needing to document what I do, and I'm kind of worried. What I do is quick and easy. If somebody tries to follow the steps I take, he's going to find it horribly slow and awkward. Part of it is that there are judgment calls that I can make on the fly that are difficult to document. Not looking forward to that. "Hi, here's my really easy-to-use, quick system that will probably take you 20 times longer as you try to decipher my madness." 
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« Reply #141 on: July 27, 2015, 11:50:27 pm »
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I am currently typing a memo verbatim because no one bothered to save a copy to the share drive we have at work, and the individuals who made the memo to begin with are no longer here.

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« Reply #142 on: July 28, 2015, 09:02:12 am »
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You can't go to an server backup from the last few days of employment of one of the folks involved?  Or is that one of those things that takes a written request, 14 counter-signatures, and an IT guy that will co-operate?  In other words, was retyping the whole thing quicker?

You couldn't scan the hardcopy and use OCR to convert to a text file or something importable to Word?
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« Reply #143 on: July 28, 2015, 10:21:25 am »
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I really do weep that there are environments where retyping is actually quicker.
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« Reply #144 on: July 28, 2015, 04:22:39 pm »
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I really do weep that there are environments where retyping is actually quicker.
Well, rest assured there are MANY such environments.  You'd have to include any government setting (municipal, district, county, city, state, and federal).  That's a lot of tears to shed.
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« Reply #145 on: July 31, 2015, 03:05:34 am »
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You can't go to an server backup from the last few days of employment of one of the folks involved?  Or is that one of those things that takes a written request, 14 counter-signatures, and an IT guy that will co-operate?  In other words, was retyping the whole thing quicker?

You couldn't scan the hardcopy and use OCR to convert to a text file or something importable to Word?

Yeah, trying to recover his files wouldn't have worked, and scanning and converting wouldn't work either.  So I actually ended up doing something almost as good.

I typed up a new signature block and copied the original memo with a new signature block carefully placed to align with the page.  Had I spent a bit more time on it I am pretty sure I could have gotten rid of the residual line that happened because I was placing two papers on top of each other.  And yes, the font wasn't exactly the same. 

I really do weep that there are environments where retyping is actually quicker.
Well, rest assured there are MANY such environments.  You'd have to include any government setting (municipal, district, county, city, state, and federal).  That's a lot of tears to shed.

But it was good enough for government work.
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« Reply #146 on: July 31, 2015, 01:32:14 pm »
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If your standard was only that of government work, you could have just set it aside indefinitely.  Less bother that way.
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« Reply #147 on: August 10, 2015, 12:24:46 pm »
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Man, what the hell, Adobe?

We've used Adobe Captivate v3 and v4 years back. We updated some of the files, but there are still some instructional files we created that did not need updating in the past 6 years.

Fast forward to Captivate 8, and we have some changes to make. Turns out Captivate 8 does not open legacy Captivate files (.cp). In order to convert them to the newer format (.cptx), we have to install Captivate 5, 6, or 7. Then we have to convert all those .cp files to .cptx. Then we can finally open them in Captivate 8.

I'm pretty sure I could open a Word 95 file in Office 2013, so Microsoft has the right idea. Why must I go backwards with Adobe before going forwards? Grr.
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« Reply #148 on: August 13, 2015, 02:45:02 pm »
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I'm likely to be out of a job in 2 weeks.  :(

So almost 5 months after I lost my job; got an offer today!! I start in a couple weeks. It's not as good as my last job, but my last job was kind of like hitting the lottery, I never expected to find something like that again. I think it will be really good.
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« Reply #149 on: August 13, 2015, 03:31:57 pm »
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Yay, congrats!

Any job that helps keep you alive is a good job…some are just way better than others.

My accomplishment today is that I finally asked my boss is there's any prohibition from wearing kilts. She's checking with our director tomorrow.

Not that I actually own any kilts, but I want to know if I can wear them to work if I break down and buy some.
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« Reply #150 on: September 02, 2015, 01:26:59 pm »
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Trying to ingratiate myself into this project. One of my coworkers is freaking out because she's working in Excel, and just the first part of the project gave her 20k rows. There are more coming. She says she hates Excel, and I'm just looking at her data with my mouth watering. I want in on this project; she's not equipped for it.

To give an example, she had to ask me how to remove all the data in columns A and B without needing to hold Shift and the down arrow for 20k rows. I'm looking at this with possible filters and vlookups, and I know I must have this.
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« Reply #151 on: September 02, 2015, 01:35:01 pm »
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Started my new job this week. I'm working with databases many factors larger than anything I've touched before. We're talking about tables that get 20 million new records PER DAY; many billions of rows total.
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« Reply #152 on: September 02, 2015, 02:44:07 pm »
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Started my new job this week. I'm working with databases many factors larger than anything I've touched before. We're talking about tables that get 20 million new records PER DAY; many billions of rows total.

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« Reply #153 on: October 01, 2015, 09:45:42 am »
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Started my new job this week. I'm working with databases many factors larger than anything I've touched before. We're talking about tables that get 20 million new records PER DAY; many billions of rows total.
Is it a log database?  ::)
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« Reply #154 on: October 01, 2015, 09:50:19 am »
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Started my new job this week. I'm working with databases many factors larger than anything I've touched before. We're talking about tables that get 20 million new records PER DAY; many billions of rows total.
Is it a log database?  ::)

That's better because, naturally, you'd only have about 20 rows. 
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« Reply #155 on: October 09, 2015, 09:24:52 am »
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Well, we finally got out of the stone age and upgrade from IE 8 to IE 11. So I guess that puts us in the iron age.

I wouldn't mind so much, but I have to re-create my interface. And why underline a letter as a hot key if pressing the hot key doesn't work?

Man, my cheese has been moved so hard today.
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