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Re: A simple question.
« Reply #50 on: March 06, 2015, 07:28:34 am »
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I stand by my estimate of 42. It wasn't just a stupid hitchhikers joke, it was serious.

I stand by my estimate of 55. By my actions in this thread it's clearly based on a clear understanding of Dominion, perfect shuffle luck puzzles, and it was most certainly not a nod to the best number in existence.

We are already at 40, and I'm sure there are more. AdamH's 55 may be good.

Inb4 my answer is exactly right.
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Re: A simple question.
« Reply #51 on: March 06, 2015, 02:31:47 pm »
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Remember that this was originally stated as solitaire, Ephesos.  No help from other players!

Lol, how'd I miss that? Solitaire Dominion is weird though, certain cards just don't work...

Smugglers needs to be banned
T1 Sit to the left of a person playing another game of Solitaire Dominion trying to do this puzzle, and buy Smugglers.
T2-3 Wait patiently until they buy GM. Taunting is encouraged.
T4 Play Smugglers and gain GM.

How about JoaT?
T1+2 Buy Silver+JoaT
T3 Necro JoaT looking at and discarding Copper, drawing to 5, trashing Overgrown Estate to draw Copper, and buying Silver. Draw up 3 cards left including Silver, and 2 more Silvers.
T4 3 Silver, buy GM
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Re: A simple question.
« Reply #52 on: March 06, 2015, 04:20:29 pm »
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There are some jack-of-all-trades options even without necropolis. Hamlet+jack+embargo/duchess will work, as will as jack+forager. 
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Re: A simple question.
« Reply #53 on: March 06, 2015, 06:25:06 pm »
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Duchess / Stables, King's Court on turn 3.

Hang on, spell this one out?
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Re: A simple question.
« Reply #54 on: March 06, 2015, 06:29:09 pm »
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Duchess / Stables, King's Court on turn 3.

Hang on, spell this one out?
Open duchess / stables. Turn 3 hand: duchess, stables, 3 copper; play stables, discard copper, draw 3 copper, play duchess, discard copper on top, play 5 copper, buy KC. Turn 4 hand: 3 estate, (shuffle) KC, duchess, KC the duchess.
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Re: A simple question.
« Reply #55 on: March 06, 2015, 07:09:22 pm »
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Duchess / Stables, King's Court on turn 3.

Hang on, spell this one out?
Open duchess / stables. Turn 3 hand: duchess, stables, 3 copper; play stables, discard copper, draw 3 copper, play duchess, discard copper on top, play 5 copper, buy KC. Turn 4 hand: 3 estate, (shuffle) KC, duchess, KC the duchess.

Duchess confirmed OP.  Nerf plz.
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Re: A simple question.
« Reply #56 on: March 06, 2015, 11:37:07 pm »
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i'm coming up with a lot of good ways to buy a $5 card on turn 4
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Re: A simple question.
« Reply #57 on: March 06, 2015, 11:50:26 pm »
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1 & 2: bridge/oracle
3: draw CC, necro, oracle, bridge, play necro, oracle, discard OE, H, draw CC, play bridge, buy conspirator/silver
4: draw CCC necro oracle, play necro, oracle, discard whatever, draw conspirator, silver, play conspirator draw bridge, play bridge, bam
so, hey, maybe ban one of those guys

1 & 2: venture/pawn
3: draw CCC V P, pawn for card/buy, draw C play venture, cycle three estates or whatever, play C buy quarry/ i dunno, candlestick maker?
4: draw CC P Q CSM, play csm, pawn for card/$1, draw venture, play venture, reveal & play copper OH GOD DAMMIT
start turn 4 again: draw CC P CSM V, play csm, pawn for card/$1 draw puddle of tears, play venture, reveal & play quarry, pay 1 coin token, buy grand market & curse, paste ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) into chat
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Re: A simple question.
« Reply #58 on: March 07, 2015, 08:41:09 pm »
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A few more weird setups:
Rebuild/Tunnel/$2,$3,$4 that can draw a card;also Ruined Library from any Looter
T3: RebCCCC: Reb (name Tunnel, discard deck barring EEE, reveal Tunnel, gain G, E -> Tunnel): buy $2
T4: EERebDraw: Reb (name Tunnel, discard deck, reveal Tunnels, gain GG) -> draw (draw G): play GG, buy Gm

This also works with any trasher that costs <$4 with shelters, if you have Oge in hand name Tunnel, you will discard deck & gain a gold. Then on T4: RebOgeNecGTrasher: Reb (name Tunnel, discard deck, reveal Tunnel, gain G) -> Trash Oge (draw G)



Loan/Tunnel:
T3:CCCCLoan: Loan (discard TEEE, gain G, trash C): buy S
T4:CSGLoanC


Other options with more new cards:
Oupost/Squire:
T3:CCCCOpost: Opost: Buy S
T3b: CCSqr: Sqr (gain S): Buy S
T4:EEECOpost: Opost
T4b:SSS


Tmap/Tmap works off Baker

Smithy/Tournament works off shelters/Baker
T3: CCCCTour: Tour (draw Smithy) -> Smithy (draw 3C): buy Province
T4: NecOgeHovTourP: Tour (reveal P, gain Steed, draw Steed) -> Nec -> Steed (Gain 4S, +2 cards, draw S/Smithy) -> Smithy (draw SS)


Bm works with Shelters and Jack/Wt/Lib (needs Baker coin)
Bm/Jack
T3: NecCCBmJack: Nec -> Bm (play CC: buy terminal S) -> Jack (discard Hov, draw CCCCOge, trash Oge, draw C): buy S
T4: NecBmSTerminalS: Nec -> Bm (play S) -> Terminal S

Bm/Wt
T3:NecBmCCWt: Nec -> Bm(play CC: buy terminal S) -> Wt (draw CCCCCHov): buy S
T4:OgeNecBmSTerminalS


Navigator/Silver
T3:CCNavXX: Nav (discard 5 cards): buy S
T4:SSNavXX


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Margrave/S is straight forward
T3: CCCCMarg: Marg (draw CCC): buy SS
T4: EEESMarg: Marge (draw SS)



Minion/Urchin with Baker coin
T3: EEEUrchC: Urch (draw Minion) -> Minion (draw CCCC, trash U, gain Merc): buy S
T4: CCMinionSMerc: Minion ($2) -> Merc (trash CC)


Bandit camp/Moat
T3: BcmpMoatCCC: Bcmp (gain Spoils, draw C) -> Moat (draw CC): buy G
T4: EEEGSpoils


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Journeyman/Candlestick maker
T3: CstkJrnmnCCC: CstkJrnmn (name E, discard EEE, draw CCC): buy SS
T4:CCstkSSX

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Cstk/any +3 card draw option for <$6 with shelters
T3: CstkCCC+3: Cstk -> +3 (draw CCC): buy SS
T4: OgeHovNecC+3:Nec -> +3 (draw CstkSS) -> Cstk

Pawn/Venture
T3: PwnCCCVent: Pwn (draw C, +1buy):vent (discard EEE, draw C): buy SS
T4: CCCPwnVent: Pwn (+$1, draw S): Vent (draw S)



Squire/Rebuild with shelters
T3:CCNecSqrReb: Nec -> Sqr (gain S) -> Reb (name Oge, discard deck): buy S
T4:NecSqrRebSS:Nec -> Sqr (gain S) -> Reb (name anything, discard deck except for Oge, Oge -> E, draw S)


Cellar/Rebuild/Feodum
T3: EERebXX: Reb(discard deck except for E, E -> Feodum)
T4: EECRebCell: Reb(discard deck except for Feodum, Feodum -> Duchy, gain SSS) -> Cellar (discard EEC, draw SSS)

also works with Xroads if you buy an E on T3



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Re: A simple question.
« Reply #59 on: March 07, 2015, 09:44:12 pm »
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Are you suggesting opening Rebuild/Tunnel? That requires Baker.
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Re: A simple question.
« Reply #60 on: March 08, 2015, 10:10:28 pm »
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Probably this one is forever unknowable. Or, I mean, not worth the effort.

But what if it's not?!? Here's 57 cards that I believe kill all the combos that have already been mentioned.  Can anyone do it without any of them?  Does anyone think this is more conservative than necessary?

TOO MUCH MONEY (9)
Baron
Death Cart
Fool's Gold
Harvest
Masterpiece
Salvager
Secret Chamber
Harvest
Vault

UNCAPPED GAIN
Haggler
Stonemason

TOP-DECKING
Develop
Nomad Camp
Watchtower

EXTRA COIN TOKEN
Baker
Black Market

ALSO BANNED
Doctor
Governor
Mandarin

UNCAPPED CYCLING
Chancellor/Scavenger
Inn

2-COSTS THAT DRAW/CYCLE 2 AT LEAST 2 CARDS
Moat
Cellar
Courtyard
Crossroads
Vagrant

2-COSTS THAT PROVIDE AT LEAST 2 COINS
Embargo
Duchess

3-COSTS THAT DRAW/CYCLE AT LEAST 3 CARDS
Warehouse
Loan
Oracle
Sage

4-COSTS THAT DRAW/CYCLE AT LEAST 3 CARDS
Smithy
Envoy
Scout
Navigator

4-COST REMODELERS
Procession
Remake
Remodel

4-COST THAT PROVIDE 3 COIN
Horse Traders
Money Lender

5-COST REMODELERS
Butcher
Upgrade

5-COSTS THAT DRAW/CYCLE 3 CARDS
Margrave
Outpost
Stables

5-COSTS THAT DRAW/CYCLE 4+ CARDS
Council Room
Hunting Party
Minion
Rebuild
Venture
Wharf

5-COSTS THAT PROVIDE $3
Contraband
Counterfeit

5+ COST REMODELERS
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Re: A simple question.
« Reply #61 on: March 09, 2015, 11:34:37 am »
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JoaT can do it with no other kingdom support, if you have shelters.

Open JoaT/Silver, Turn 3 draw Joat-C-C-OG-Necro, play Necro, play Joat (gain a Silver), discard Hovel, draw 2 coppers, trash OG and draw a copper, buy a Silver. Turn 4, draw your opening silver and your last two coppers, then shuffle your deck and draw two silvers, buy GM.

Edit: Also Poor House should be in the "too much money" category.

Edit edit: Ephesos mentioned JoaT already I guess.
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Re: A simple question.
« Reply #62 on: March 09, 2015, 11:17:33 pm »
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Can anyone do it without any of them?

Easily if Kc stays in:
Tr/Steward:
T3:CCCTrStew: Tr -> Stew(draw CCCC): buy Kc
T4:EEEKcStew

Shanty/Stew plays the same.

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