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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #75 on: May 30, 2016, 02:30:31 pm »
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Trashed down to Raze, Guide, and two Silvers (with help from my Knights).  Bought Loan.

EDIT: Same game, trashed a Loan with a Loan, then bought a Loan.
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #76 on: May 30, 2016, 04:19:40 pm »
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In campaign games, the bots will routinely start buying Estates if you start developing an insurmountable lead on them, rather than trying to buy Provinces.  All it does is make the game take longer.
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #77 on: May 30, 2016, 10:37:44 pm »
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Played two Forges in one turn.  Once to trash a Copper, gaining a Copper- the other time to trash nothing, gaining a Copper.

Same game, used Pathfinding on Bridge Troll, Rebuild, Harvest, Harvest again, Magpie, Harvest, Magpie, in that order.  Had 4 Magpies and never any of the other ones.
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #78 on: May 31, 2016, 05:37:43 am »
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Played two Forges in one turn.  Once to trash a Copper, gaining a Copper- the other time to trash nothing, gaining a Copper.

Same game, used Pathfinding on Bridge Troll, Rebuild, Harvest, Harvest again, Magpie, Harvest, Magpie, in that order.  Had 4 Magpies and never any of the other ones.

The most amazing thing about this is that they had time to buy 7 (!) Pathfindings in a Rebuild game.
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #79 on: May 31, 2016, 10:03:23 am »
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Played two Forges in one turn.  Once to trash a Copper, gaining a Copper- the other time to trash nothing, gaining a Copper.

Same game, used Pathfinding on Bridge Troll, Rebuild, Harvest, Harvest again, Magpie, Harvest, Magpie, in that order.  Had 4 Magpies and never any of the other ones.

The most amazing thing about this is that they had time to buy 7 (!) Pathfindings in a Rebuild game.

Rushes are not my strong suit, especially when I'm just kinda messing around with bots
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #80 on: May 31, 2016, 11:32:04 am »
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I got the impression that since the Adventure update some bots (Warlord) have started to pursue awful rush strategies with duchy/estate as their main vp source. Maybe somebody tweaked them for the worse.

Yes the bots seem to sometimes rush duchies when one pile is half empty now. Unfortunately, when playing against more than one bot their 'group think' can almost be a winning strategy as piles empty so fast. There seem to be plenty of card specific problems such as always emptying the port pile (and then duchies and estates), never playing treasure trove (what's that about?), and always buying when swamp hag is in play. They don't even provide something like a big money baseline game now.
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #81 on: May 31, 2016, 01:32:11 pm »
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I got the impression that since the Adventure update some bots (Warlord) have started to pursue awful rush strategies with duchy/estate as their main vp source. Maybe somebody tweaked them for the worse.

Yes the bots seem to sometimes rush duchies when one pile is half empty now. Unfortunately, when playing against more than one bot their 'group think' can almost be a winning strategy as piles empty so fast. There seem to be plenty of card specific problems such as always emptying the port pile (and then duchies and estates), never playing treasure trove (what's that about?), and always buying when swamp hag is in play. They don't even provide something like a big money baseline game now.

And people wonder why I don't think playing against Bots makes you a good player on its own.
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #82 on: May 31, 2016, 01:47:05 pm »
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I just had a bot Duplicating the Curse I gave him with Witch.  ???

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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #83 on: May 31, 2016, 01:47:44 pm »
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I just had a bot Duplicating the Curse I gave him with Witch.  ???

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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #84 on: June 05, 2016, 03:19:13 pm »
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A bot ambassadored a spy.
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #85 on: June 05, 2016, 03:24:43 pm »
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A bot ambassadored a spy.

I mean, they do buy way too many Spies...

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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #86 on: June 05, 2016, 08:01:29 pm »
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The bots don't know about Distant Lands points and will end the game on a loss.

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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #87 on: June 05, 2016, 10:42:18 pm »
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The bots always call their ratcatchers and trash whatever they have in hand (almost as good as rats!)
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #88 on: June 06, 2016, 02:06:11 am »
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Maybe he won't reveal it this time

Defender Bot - plays Royal Carriage
Defender Bot - puts Royal Carriage on the Tavern Mat
Defender Bot - plays Tournament
singletee - reveals Province
Defender Bot - calls Royal Carriage
Defender Bot - plays Tournament
singletee - reveals Province

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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #89 on: June 21, 2016, 10:49:22 pm »
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Is this the worst turn ever? (two swamp hags in play)

---------- Villager Bot: turn 12 ----------
Villager Bot - plays Ruined Market
Villager Bot - calls Royal Carriage
Villager Bot - plays Ruined Market
Villager Bot - calls Royal Carriage
Villager Bot - plays Ruined Market
Villager Bot - plays 3 Copper
Villager Bot - buys Estate
Villager Bot - gains Curse
Villager Bot - gains Curse
Villager Bot - gains Estate
Villager Bot - buys Survivors
Villager Bot - gains Curse
Villager Bot - gains Curse
Villager Bot - gains Survivors
Villager Bot - buys Ruined Library
Villager Bot - gains Curse
Villager Bot - gains Curse
Villager Bot - gains Ruined Library
Villager Bot - buys Ruined Library
Villager Bot - gains Curse
Villager Bot - gains Curse
Villager Bot - gains Ruined Library
Villager Bot - draws Curse, Curse, Ruined Library, Silver, Curse
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #90 on: June 21, 2016, 10:50:34 pm »
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Why is it buying Ruins!?
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #91 on: June 21, 2016, 10:57:56 pm »
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It wants to three pile, of course.
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #92 on: June 21, 2016, 11:49:42 pm »
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"Quit while you've got no chance of ever being ahead."
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #93 on: August 24, 2016, 01:29:15 pm »
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I was playing Conqueror Bot on this board.

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Summon, Chapel, Oasis, Familiar, Fortress, Moneylender, Highway, Lost City, Torturer, Grand Market, Hunting Grounds

The bot completely ignores Chapel, Highway and Grand Market in favour of trying to put together some sort of Fortress/Torturer/Familiar engine with just a Moneylender for thinning.


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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #94 on: August 24, 2016, 01:45:41 pm »
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The problem with Bots is that they all play certain strategies. Warlord Bot pursues attacks at all costs, Banker Bot generally uses money as payload, and Conqueror Bot tries a bit of everything, which makes it much worse than the rest of the bots.
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #95 on: August 24, 2016, 02:02:48 pm »
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The problem with Bots is that they all play certain strategies. Warlord Bot pursues attacks at all costs, Banker Bot generally uses money as payload, and Conqueror Bot tries a bit of everything, which makes it much worse than the rest of the bots.

The conqueror bot takes early vp. It was often rated highest along with the banker bot.
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #96 on: August 24, 2016, 02:12:45 pm »
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The problem with Bots is that they all play certain strategies. Warlord Bot pursues attacks at all costs, Banker Bot generally uses money as payload, and Conqueror Bot tries a bit of everything, which makes it much worse than the rest of the bots.

The conqueror bot takes early vp. It was often rated highest along with the banker bot.

Really? Every game I've played against it, it was just awful.
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #97 on: August 25, 2016, 01:45:19 pm »
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The problem with Bots is that they all play certain strategies. Warlord Bot pursues attacks at all costs, Banker Bot generally uses money as payload, and Conqueror Bot tries a bit of everything, which makes it much worse than the rest of the bots.

The conqueror bot takes early vp. It was often rated highest along with the banker bot.

Really? Every game I've played against it, it was just awful.

Really. Serf Bot is the one who tries a bit of everything (apparently it's completely random).
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #98 on: November 09, 2016, 03:12:57 am »
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After some games I found that bots follow envoy bm and minion bm too much even with mountebank on board. Combined with bot almost always opening potion to get golem I got this game. Its witch bm, bot has 5/2 but instead balls envoy/potion. Then he proceeds to buy 9 additional golems to play that single envoy

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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #99 on: November 21, 2016, 02:03:30 am »
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------------ Game Over ------------
gloures - cards: 10 Laboratory, 6 Peddler, 1 Ranger, 1 Mint, 1 Treasury, 2 Gold, 2 Silver, 1 Coin of the Realm, 8 Province, 2 Duchy
gloures - total victory points: 54
gloures - turns: 16
 
Warlord Bot - cards: 1 Mint, 1 Raze, 1 Copper
Warlord Bot - total victory points: 0
Warlord Bot - turns: 15
 
1st place: gloures
2nd place: Warlord Bot


Sample Turn:

---------- Warlord Bot: turn 12 ----------
Warlord Bot - plays Raze
Warlord Bot - trashes Copper
Warlord Bot - plays Raze
Warlord Bot - trashes Raze
Warlord Bot - chooses Copper
Warlord Bot - plays Mint
Warlord Bot - reveals Copper
Warlord Bot - gains Copper
Warlord Bot - plays 1 Copper
Warlord Bot - buys Copper
Warlord Bot - gains Copper
Warlord Bot - shuffles deck
Warlord Bot - draws Mint, Raze, Copper, Copper, Raze
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