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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2015, 08:39:38 am »
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Incidentally, how can one find out the pro level of the various bots? I'd be interested in which is the highest ranked and how high it is. (Warlord is the one that beats me the most)
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2015, 04:20:09 pm »
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If you go to "Multiplayer" and make a new private game, you can add a bot and see their rankings.
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2015, 05:05:07 pm »
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I play Contraband. Lord Bottington prohibits Philosopher's Stone, even though I have no Potions in my entire deck.
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2015, 05:26:19 pm »
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I play Contraband. Lord Bottington prohibits Philosopher's Stone, even though I have no Potions in my entire deck.

You could have gained one with Horn of Plenty, then played it with Venture.

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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2015, 11:12:42 pm »
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HoP does not give you a in any way.
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2015, 11:53:51 pm »
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HoP does not give you a in any way.
I think the order of play is something like this:

* Play Contraband, LB names Phil Stone
* Play Copper and Silver
* Play HoP, gain Potion
* Play Venture, which searches for and plays the Potion
* Want to buy Phil Stone, but can't
* Wonder what kind of messed-up game you're playing where this is an option, let alone a desirable strategy
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #31 on: June 18, 2015, 12:08:10 am »
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Wonder what kind of messed-up game you're playing where this is an option, let alone a desirable strategy

Doesn't matter; had edge-case.

...but obviously you got Horn of Plenty from the Black Market, and you want to gain Potion and Philosopher's Stone to increase your Fairgrounds' value. And you are about to end the game on 3 piles, or something. Dunno, use your imagination, people.
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #32 on: July 05, 2015, 03:53:43 pm »
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http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20150705/log.54485813e4b0342f4922b1e1.1436125296153.txt

Witch and marauder on the board, mint is the only trashing...... mint looks good here.... BETTER OPEN MINT!!!
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #33 on: July 05, 2015, 04:56:21 pm »
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Defender Botplays Sage
Defender Botreveals Treasure Map
Defender Botplaces Treasure Map in hand
Defender Botplays Necropolis
Defender Botplays Treasure Map
Defender Bottrashes Treasure Map, Treasure Map
Defender Botgains Gold
Defender Botgains Gold
Defender Botgains Gold
Defender Botgains Gold
Defender Botplays Chancellor
Defender Botmoves deck to discards
Defender Botplays 1 Copper
Defender Botbuys Silver
Defender Botgains Silver
Defender Botshuffles deck
Defender Botdraws Gold, Overgrown Estate, Hovel, Gold, Silver

Ironically he drew into a better hand than his likely next hand, unless the top card of his deck was the hovel.
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #34 on: July 29, 2015, 12:28:53 pm »
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I've just encountered the bot strategy classic (if you've ever wondered if it's real):
http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?/20150729/log.50e7525ee4b0b5b74140a6c0.1438187185397.txt

Lord Bottington: turn 12
Lord Bottington   plays Rats
Lord Bottington   draws Rats
Lord Bottington   reveals Rats, Rats, Rats, Rats, Rats
Lord Bottington   plays Rats
Lord Bottington   draws Rats
Lord Bottington   reveals Rats, Rats, Rats, Rats, Rats
Lord Bottington   plays Rats
Lord Bottington   draws Rats
Lord Bottington   reveals Rats, Rats, Rats, Rats, Rats
Lord Bottington   plays Rats
Lord Bottington   draws Rats
Lord Bottington   reveals Rats, Rats, Rats, Rats, Rats
Lord Bottington   plays Rats
Lord Bottington   draws Rats
Lord Bottington   reveals Rats, Rats, Rats, Rats, Rats
Lord Bottington   plays Rats
Lord Bottington   draws Rats
Lord Bottington   reveals Rats, Rats, Rats, Rats, Rats
Lord Bottington   plays Rats
Lord Bottington   draws Rats
Lord Bottington   reveals Rats, Rats, Rats, Rats, Rats
Lord Bottington   plays Rats
Lord Bottington   draws Rats
Lord Bottington   reveals Rats, Rats, Rats, Rats, Rats
Lord Bottington   plays Rats
Lord Bottington   draws Rats
Lord Bottington   reveals Rats, Rats, Rats, Rats, Rats
Lord Bottington   plays Rats
Lord Bottington   draws Rats
Lord Bottington   reveals Rats, Rats, Rats, Rats, Rats
Lord Bottington   plays Rats
Lord Bottington   draws Rats
Lord Bottington   reveals Rats, Rats, Rats, Rats, Rats
Lord Bottington   plays Rats
Lord Bottington   shuffles deck
Lord Bottington   draws Rats
Lord Bottington   reveals Rats, Rats, Rats, Rats, Rats
Lord Bottington   plays Rats
Lord Bottington   draws Rats
Lord Bottington   reveals Rats, Rats, Rats, Rats, Rats
Lord Bottington   plays Rats
Lord Bottington   draws Rats
Lord Bottington   reveals Rats, Rats, Rats, Rats, Rats
Lord Bottington   plays Rats
Lord Bottington   draws Copper
Lord Bottington   trashes Copper
Lord Bottington   plays Rats
Lord Bottington   draws Curse
Lord Bottington   trashes Curse
Lord Bottington   plays Rats
Lord Bottington   draws Copper
Lord Bottington   trashes Copper
Lord Bottington   plays Rats
Lord Bottington   draws Copper
Lord Bottington   trashes Copper
Lord Bottington   plays Rats
Lord Bottington   draws Rats
Lord Bottington   reveals Rats
Lord Bottington   plays Rats
Lord Bottington   buys Copper
Lord Bottington   gains Copper
Lord Bottington   shuffles deck
Lord Bottington   draws Rats, Rats, Rats, Rats, Rats




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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2015, 05:15:24 pm »
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If you go to "Multiplayer" and make a new private game, you can add a bot and see their rankings.

I'm pretty sure the rankings are adapted to your specific kingdom, though I'm not sure exactly how. Villager bot tends to have higher rankings on boards with strong engines, for example.

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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2015, 08:28:07 pm »
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If you go to "Multiplayer" and make a new private game, you can add a bot and see their rankings.

I'm pretty sure the rankings are adapted to your specific kingdom, though I'm not sure exactly how. Villager bot tends to have higher rankings on boards with strong engines, for example.

Each bot only has one ranking for each play mode.  It is conceivable that different bots play different Kingdoms better.
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #37 on: August 20, 2015, 08:49:09 am »
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I just tried out the new campaigns and got this (Base Act 3, Game 2):

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Serf Agnes - plays Feast
Serf Agnes - trashes Feast
Serf Agnes - gains Militia
Serf Agnes - plays 2 Copper
Serf Agnes - buys Estate
Serf Agnes - gains Estate
Serf Agnes - draws Smithy, Silver, Copper, Copper, Province
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #38 on: September 01, 2015, 01:06:57 pm »
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Defender Bot   plays Contraband
Iguana Iguana   names Province as contraband
Defender Bot   plays Contraband
Iguana Iguana   names Gold as contraband
Defender Bot   plays 1 Gold, 1 Silver
Defender Bot   buys Contraband
Defender Bot   gains Contraband
Defender Bot   buys Contraband
Defender Bot   gains Contraband

This continued until the the bot emptied the entire contraband pile.
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #39 on: September 02, 2015, 08:18:38 am »
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This continued until the the bot emptied the entire contraband pile.



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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #40 on: September 12, 2015, 07:39:28 pm »
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Out with the old, in the new:

Defender Bot   plays Hamlet
Defender Bot   draws Estate
Defender Bot   discards Estate
Defender Bot   receives one buy
Defender Bot   plays Count
Defender Bot   gains Copper
Defender Bot   trashes Copper, Copper, Copper
Defender Bot   buys Copper
Defender Bot   gains Copper
Defender Bot   buys Copper
Defender Bot   gains Copper
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #41 on: September 12, 2015, 09:39:28 pm »
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Twice in the same game Serf Bot bought a Witch when the Curses were empty and Smithy was on the board.
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #42 on: September 12, 2015, 11:16:35 pm »
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #43 on: September 13, 2015, 03:02:38 am »
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Twice in the same game Serf Bot bought a Witch when the Curses were empty and Smithy was on the board.

Serf bot buys a random card each turn. It has no strategy.
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #44 on: September 19, 2015, 02:19:33 pm »
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Twice in the same game Serf Bot bought a Witch when the Curses were empty and Smithy was on the board.

Serf bot buys a random card each turn. It has no strategy.

Is there any evidence that this is the case? I mean, it surely looks like that at times.
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #45 on: September 19, 2015, 03:30:06 pm »
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Is there any evidence that this is the case? I mean, it surely looks like that at times.

I didn't find the evidence, but that has been the conventional wisdom for quite a while so I assume it's based on something.
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #46 on: September 19, 2015, 06:37:40 pm »
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Is there any evidence that this is the case?

Twice in the same game Serf Bot bought a Witch when the Curses were empty and Smithy was on the board.
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #47 on: October 08, 2015, 02:01:44 pm »
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Conqueror Bot: turn 1
Conqueror Bot   plays 3 Copper
Conqueror Bot   uses 1 coin token
Conqueror Bot   buys Potion

Conqueror Bot   gains Potion
Conqueror Bot   draws Estate, Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper

Conqueror Bot: turn 2
Conqueror Bot   plays 4 Copper
Conqueror Bot   buys Silver
Conqueror Bot   gains Silver
Conqueror Bot   shuffles deck
Conqueror Bot   draws Copper, Copper, Potion, Estate, Copper
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #48 on: October 13, 2015, 01:48:22 pm »
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Lord Bottington turn 16:
Lord Bottington plays Workshop
Lord Bottington gains Silver
Lord Bottington plays 2 Copper
Lord Bottington buys Estate

Lord Bottington had the 3 pile win by using Workshop to gain the last Village (edit: even without buying that Estate). I won on my next turn.
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Re: Bizarre Bot Strategies II
« Reply #49 on: October 13, 2015, 02:04:05 pm »
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Lord Bottington turn 16:
Lord Bottington plays Workshop
Lord Bottington gains Silver
Lord Bottington plays 2 Copper
Lord Bottington buys Estate

Lord Bottington had the 3 pile win by using Workshop to gain the last Village. I win on my next turn.

If the three pile is on estates and villages then the bot will never spot that. It has no concept of what it might buy later when it is playing the workshop.
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