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[IsotropicWasBetter]

Is making your own shuffle luck cheating?

[Juice2403]

Is making your own shuffle luck cheating?

How could it be cheating if you buy the right cards to make the shuffle luck successful. Sometimes it just doesn't work that way and we still get a bad shuffle.

[Burning Skull]

Is making your own shuffle luck cheating?

Several guys from my ban list definitely think so

[Joseph2302]

Is making your own shuffle luck cheating?

How could it be cheating if you buy the right cards to make the shuffle luck successful. Sometimes it just doesn't work that way and we still get a bad shuffle.

It isn't cheating, it's playing the game well. IWB just wants to start an argument again it seems, his last thread was about use of the word "Hands".

[Burning Skull]

Now that you explained it I realized it was a joke after all!

[Deadlock39]

Well, certainly some instances of making your own shuffle luck can be cheating if you are playing IRL.  Just look for threads on the forum about weaving your actions before shuffling (but don't bring that crap in here for cripes sake). Or maybe you know a few card slight of hand tricks and you find and control an Estate to the bottom of your deck every time you shuffle so it misses the next one.

The version of "making one's own shuffle luck" that is the common reference around here, coined by the esteemed Adam Horton, is certainly legal. Making your own shuffle luck can't stop his holiness the RNG, even though it may appear possible when watching Adam play a board with Jack of all Trades.  You need only watch him play a game with Urchin to be reminded that the mighty RNG can smite anyone at any time.

[Asper]

A friend of mine (hurr durr, "Mint") is very gifted with stage-wizardy card tricks. We sometimes play IRL Dominion. If he "made his own shuffle luck", i would most certainly call it cheating. I mean, he's a good friend and i trust him, but i'm pretty sure he could set up that KC-KC-Bridge-Bridge-Bridge if he wanted to.

Edit: Not that anyone cares for a serious opinion.

[Witherweaver]

Is making your own shuffle luck cheating?

That guy from the MtG tournament sure made his own shuffle luck.

[Witherweaver]

Is making your own shuffle luck cheating?

How could it be cheating if you buy the right cards to make the shuffle luck successful. Sometimes it just doesn't work that way and we still get a bad shuffle.

It isn't cheating, it's playing the game well. IWB just wants to start an argument again it seems, his last thread was about use of the word "Hands".

Hands down the best thread started in the last month or so.

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

Is making your own shuffle luck cheating?

How could it be cheating if you buy the right cards to make the shuffle luck successful. Sometimes it just doesn't work that way and we still get a bad shuffle.

It isn't cheating, it's playing the game well. IWB just wants to start an argument again it seems, his last thread was about use of the word "Hands".

Hands down the best thread started in the last month or so.

Wrong thread.  The hands discussion is elsewhere.

[LastFootnote]

Is making your own shuffle luck cheating?

How could it be cheating if you buy the right cards to make the shuffle luck successful. Sometimes it just doesn't work that way and we still get a bad shuffle.

It isn't cheating, it's playing the game well. IWB just wants to start an argument again it seems, his last thread was about use of the word "Hands".

Hands down the best thread started in the last month or so.

Wrong thread.  The hands discussion is elsewhere.

THAT WAS THE JOKE.

[Witherweaver]

Is making your own shuffle luck cheating?

How could it be cheating if you buy the right cards to make the shuffle luck successful. Sometimes it just doesn't work that way and we still get a bad shuffle.

It isn't cheating, it's playing the game well. IWB just wants to start an argument again it seems, his last thread was about use of the word "Hands".

Hands down the best thread started in the last month or so.

Wrong thread.  The hands discussion is elsewhere.

THAT WAS THE JOKE.

Thank you, sir.  You are the poster f.ds needs, but not the poster f.ds deserves. 

[Asper]

Is making your own shuffle luck cheating?

How could it be cheating if you buy the right cards to make the shuffle luck successful. Sometimes it just doesn't work that way and we still get a bad shuffle.

It isn't cheating, it's playing the game well. IWB just wants to start an argument again it seems, his last thread was about use of the word "Hands".

Hands down the best thread started in the last month or so.

Wrong thread.  The hands discussion is elsewhere.

THAT WAS THE JOKE.

Thank you, sir.  You are the poster f.ds needs, but not the poster f.ds deserves.

That's hardly a compliment, if i recall that movie correctly...

[pacovf]

It means that LastFootnote is Harvey Dent's online username. Should be fine as long as he stays away from flammable products.

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

Is making your own shuffle luck cheating?

How could it be cheating if you buy the right cards to make the shuffle luck successful. Sometimes it just doesn't work that way and we still get a bad shuffle.

It isn't cheating, it's playing the game well. IWB just wants to start an argument again it seems, his last thread was about use of the word "Hands".

Hands down the best thread started in the last month or so.

Wrong thread.  The hands discussion is elsewhere.

THAT WAS THE JOKE.

THAT WAS MY EXPLAINING THE JOKE, MAKING IT EVEN FUNNIER.

[pacovf]

THAT WAS THE JOKE.

THAT WAS MY EXPLAINING THE JOKE, MAKING IT EVEN FUNNIER.

I LIKE CAPSLOCK TOO!

[Awaclus]

THAT WAS THE JOKE.

THAT WAS MY EXPLAINING THE JOKE, MAKING IT EVEN FUNNIER.

I LIKE CAPSLOCK TOO!

i don't!

[DStu]

Is making your own shuffle luck cheating?

http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/816127/there-any-rules-problem-shady-tactic

Edit: OPs posts are missing, which is a bit of a pity...

[Witherweaver]

Is making your own shuffle luck cheating?

http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/816127/there-any-rules-problem-shady-tactic

Edit: OPs posts are missing, which is a bit of a pity...

Generally, the answer to any question of the form "is blank cheating?" is either "yes" or "why are you even considering it?", or some number of equivalent sentiments depending on how rude you wish to be.

[DStu]

Is making your own shuffle luck cheating?

http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/816127/there-any-rules-problem-shady-tactic

Edit: OPs posts are missing, which is a bit of a pity...

Generally, the answer to any question of the form "is blank cheating?" is either "yes" or "why are you even considering it?", or some number of equivalent sentiments depending on how rude you wish to be.

You should have told us before we were discussing taking track of decks in excel sheets... /duck

[Flip5ide]

What the hell is making your own shuffle luck?

[Davio]

Stacking the cards?

I mean, with a simple overhand shuffle you can quite easily keep track of one card and put it on top/bottom every other shuffle.
Likewise with a riffle, you can keep the same card on top by always choosing the same pile to put on top and interlacing the cards in a way that the top one stays on top.

[Flip5ide]

Stacking the cards?

I mean, with a simple overhand shuffle you can quite easily keep track of one card and put it on top/bottom every other shuffle.
Likewise with a riffle, you can keep the same card on top by always choosing the same pile to put on top and interlacing the cards in a way that the top one stays on top.

So the definition of cheating? I'll just assume the OP is a joke...

[eHalcyon]

Stacking the cards?

I mean, with a simple overhand shuffle you can quite easily keep track of one card and put it on top/bottom every other shuffle.
Likewise with a riffle, you can keep the same card on top by always choosing the same pile to put on top and interlacing the cards in a way that the top one stays on top.

So the definition of cheating? I'll just assume the OP is a joke...

The OP is joking, yes.  But in case you didn't know, "You make your own shuffle luck" is a common phrase in the forums that is used with a different meaning.  It's attributed to AdamH (I think), and it serves as a reminder that Dominion really is a game of skill.  Yes, there is luck in the game, and yes, sometimes you really do have exceptional bad luck (or your opponent may have exceptional good luck).  But bad players often blame luck when really they just made poor choices while their opponent played skillfully.  Good players know how to mitigate bad luck and capitalize on good luck.

[ConMan]

In particular, I seem to recall it being used frequently to shoot down people who claimed they lost a game due to poor shuffle luck when there was plenty they could have done to improve their position.